Sometimes evils will begin shouting this as a defence early in the game like D3 in CAA about whoever is pushing them, even when it isn't a unique role :p Those are the ones that get me lol'ing. In defence of the person in this scenario, there wasn't really much else they could do/say at that point, just yell as much as they possibly could and pray they vote Pipe instead (and still lose to Trapper/Doc combo, rip).
Sometimes when solid logic is not possible to defend yourself as evil, a valid strategy is to use wrong information to confuse those who are not paying attention, or do not know the game well enough, and then use that confusion to keep yourself alive, though it is funny when there are people that do know the game and immediately call them out on their false logic
@@sgtnubbings6501 nah as pipe pointed out their only play was to claim amnie doc, get the 1f1 and either die or break tp chain. They'd still end up dying to trap if they went for spy but they could draw the game.
In respect to what the Jester did game 1. If a strategy as Jester gets you lynched then it's not a bad strategy. Same with "This claim is bad for this role", if town buys it for a little while then it's not a bad claim. Just some claims are harder to keep up than others.
I just realized: Mayor must be hella strong. If he's 1v1 a Juggernaut or Pestilence, he can literally vote them off solo. Mayor is the Kratos of the ToS universe
I find it funny when a literal God (Pest) gets outed, town can vote them into getting hanged and they actually die from it even thought they're supposed to be "Invincible"
GG's btw. I was 11 in the first game, that was my first round of the day. My claim was pretty good but ended up panicking near the end because most were pretty much confirmed. It didn't help either that most of my Infects ended up dying or getting lynched Immediatly. As for the N2, I was infact hypnoed and Attacked by Maf hence why no Maf kills happened.
Honestly, In that first game I am shocked you didn't get upped when the mayor revealed, your only defense was being active and pro town against jesters something an evil totally could've been doing
People like "eleven did it" confuse me. If you're playing like a troll, destined to get town to kill this ONE person, and not providing anything else to the game, why get upset when you're eventually called out and hung for the way you're acting?
Sk wasn't paying attention to the remaining roles, and had only one shot at winning, which wasn't a high shot if you think about it since they never claimed til the end as I can tell.
Here's 3 games for ya. 1)I'm Ret with a GA. The end of the game comes down to me, my GA, a confirmed trapper, a Jester claiming Jailor and a Pest. The jailor was clearly fake since no one has claimed jailed all game. The Pest decides to attack the clearly fake jailor & the next day gets hung by the me, my GA and the trapper 2)Two crus game. Lmao, 2 Crus game. N2:Crus #1[not me] kills a BG. N3:Me, the other crus, kills the spy who went on the crus #1, N4:Crus #1 kills invest who was checking me. Town still one but the Crus did more harm then the evils lmao 3)Town consisted of 3 Crus, 1 Amne Crus, 1 BG, 1 Doc, 1 Mayor, 1 Ret[Me]. Doc got hung, BG died doing his job, Crus all gradually ended up dead. It came down to just 1 Ret[me], 1 GF and 1 revealed Mayor. Town managed to win however Mayor almost game-threw by refusing to vote on what should have been the last day. Lucky for him I had 2 dead crus'to use to protect Mayor & GF chose to attack him on the last night instead of me.
to be fair in Game 3, Had he not attacked, he may have lost Had he attacked you, mayor could easily vote him Attacking mayor was a gamble that you'd used all the crus already There wasn't much he could do
@@niaford690 Actually the main gamble for the GF was "Is the ret legit?" On the last night I had 2 freshly dead Crus to use so he would have had to wait 2 nights before he could kill the Mayor & with the way that Mayor was playing the game sadly things could have gone either way. It was only because of communication between myself & the living Crus's during the game that the Mayor survived & town was able to win.
"This is why retri sucks." You were talking, voting and even pushing people you thought were sus to help town win pretty cleanly. Sounds pretty useful to me. It's not any worse than any other role that requires specific circumstances to function as intended.
Well that had nothing to do with being retri, that's just pipe being a good player. Retri can't do crap unless there's dead town which probably means town is losing and retri is a last chance role
Ahaha! I was just watching this video just because and I didnt realize that I was in both games this video XD Glad to see my jokes are doing well. I dont know how I was the same name in both games because I never do the same name two consecutive games but sometimes come back to the same names.
In a recent Spy game of mine I accidentally missed the message that my target got transed and ended up getting 3 town members, including myself, killed. Um Oops
JFC I can't play this game anymore. Game 1: BG and Crus in discord. Chain n1. Didn't say a single thing in game. I asked how they knew to chain, and they said they were in discord. Crazy part... random 3rd person argues with me that it's not really cheating. Game 2: I'm part of 4 maf team. 9 players left. Convince pirate to side with us to win the game. Bunch of people claim that pirate siding with maf is cheating. SAME FUCKING PLAYER FROM GAME 1. SAYS IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN DISCORD. I can't even understand how people don't understand the difference between how whispering pirate in game is different from being in a discord with another player and sharing info.
Why couldn't you use transporter? Is it because he d/c'ed? I refuse to believe you can't use transporter as retri, when it literally says you can in the role
I’m new to coven mode so I’m confused as to why a PB just outs themselves when they’re evil. is it because they have no chance of winning so they just don’t care?
Its Because PB cant kill unless they become Pestilence so they hope that the Town inno's them and lynch someone else or another confirmed evil who can kill.
Its also used as a fake claim for vulnerable townies as you saw with the mayor. PB has defense so sometimes those townies claim it so evils wont even try to attack
"tHiS iS wHy rEt sUcKs!" It "sucked" because town was living and evils were dying so fast. Your team was winning so hard, the role was sub-optimal. Still a great position to be in.
I really think Ret should be reworked to select all townies, cloning any ability once. Even Jailor but since it is so powerful it would take 2 nights to execute. Its just... so weak especially on some teams that were good like a trans, Vet and Mayor yet you can do nothing. Plus some roles would actually be able to confirm yourself aside from the rare TP self protect. It would make you a massive target being a mayor or jailor.
If the "Google version" means the browser version, then no. The steam version is paid, but runs smoother and there's no ads, unlike browser. You also get a bundle of goodies like custom skins and town points on steam. The gameplay, however, is the same.
If town is dying when you're ret, that's good! But also bad. If the town is surviving when you're ret, that's good! But also bad.
ret is a comeback mechanic for town literally and mediphoriclly
@@connerdixon1256 If Retri can even do anything to comeback with.
They really need to redo ret. I want the old ret back.
@@ninjin1381 old ret was too powerful though
@@daredeviler2088 it was a one time use. The new ret is trash most of the time.
You really towned that Salem this time, Pipe.
He really Piped that town
@@SteamShinobi Very scandalous.
I love when people are like 'what you mean no room? It caa!' and get all defensive and confused like the perfectly solid logic used was flawed.
Sometimes evils will begin shouting this as a defence early in the game like D3 in CAA about whoever is pushing them, even when it isn't a unique role :p Those are the ones that get me lol'ing.
In defence of the person in this scenario, there wasn't really much else they could do/say at that point, just yell as much as they possibly could and pray they vote Pipe instead (and still lose to Trapper/Doc combo, rip).
Sometimes when solid logic is not possible to defend yourself as evil, a valid strategy is to use wrong information to confuse those who are not paying attention, or do not know the game well enough, and then use that confusion to keep yourself alive, though it is funny when there are people that do know the game and immediately call them out on their false logic
@@sgtnubbings6501 nah as pipe pointed out their only play was to claim amnie doc, get the 1f1 and either die or break tp chain. They'd still end up dying to trap if they went for spy but they could draw the game.
Honestly, poor 10 in the first game, you could just feel the hopelessness radiating off of his last statement.
Classic CAA maf
It was 4 maf game as well, it hurts even more
In respect to what the Jester did game 1.
If a strategy as Jester gets you lynched then it's not a bad strategy.
Same with "This claim is bad for this role", if town buys it for a little while then it's not a bad claim. Just some claims are harder to keep up than others.
18:30 "13 gone" - I thought you were going to predict your own death for a second there
I just realized: Mayor must be hella strong.
If he's 1v1 a Juggernaut or Pestilence, he can literally vote them off solo.
Mayor is the Kratos of the ToS universe
The vigilante:
I find it funny when a literal God (Pest) gets outed, town can vote them into getting hanged and they actually die from it even thought they're supposed to be "Invincible"
What kind of rope are they using?
@@A1phaWolf150 reaper rope
@@FethVonOrdelia "Ah crap, they've discovered my only weaknesses, friction burn and twine!"
GG's btw. I was 11 in the first game, that was my first round of the day. My claim was pretty good but ended up panicking near the end because most were pretty much confirmed. It didn't help either that most of my Infects ended up dying or getting lynched Immediatly. As for the N2, I was infact hypnoed and Attacked by Maf hence why no Maf kills happened.
I wish town was this on point when I play. I got hanged as doc yesterday for not being on revealed Mayor
Wow...
@@notbob555 And they weren't even evils
Honestly, In that first game I am shocked you didn't get upped when the mayor revealed, your only defense was being active and pro town against jesters something an evil totally could've been doing
People like "eleven did it" confuse me. If you're playing like a troll, destined to get town to kill this ONE person, and not providing anything else to the game, why get upset when you're eventually called out and hung for the way you're acting?
Sk wasn't paying attention to the remaining roles, and had only one shot at winning, which wasn't a high shot if you think about it since they never claimed til the end as I can tell.
Retributionist, the reflavored survivor.
Survivor with seasoning
It confuses me to no end when someone openly claims pb. It's pretty much an arsonist that turns into ww when the whole town is infected.
imagine having a 4 maf team and half your team just leaving on you night one.
Imagine having a 4 maf team and ALL your teammates leave N1.
In the second game, 6 went full ace attorney breakdown over a single credible accusation
Bonk!
!knoB
@@aj_style1745 Bonk!
@@rpgplayz7085 You're all knobs.
@@StarshadowMelody XD
"the Crus should sit on me" errr, pipe? 😅
Tbh, the jester in the first one did well. It wasn't obvious, I liked the amount of subterfuge vs credibility.
Truly a Big Mike move right there at the end. :D
big miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike
people like “eleven did it” are so frustrating because they make the entire game a gimmick and don’t even try actually playing
i mean the guy literally voted and played completely legit apart from some random statements nobody read anyway. So where is the harm?
I liked the d1 ret bait before the day ended
15:40 no further context needed XD
Here's 3 games for ya.
1)I'm Ret with a GA. The end of the game comes down to me, my GA, a confirmed trapper, a Jester claiming Jailor and a Pest. The jailor was clearly fake since no one has claimed jailed all game. The Pest decides to attack the clearly fake jailor & the next day gets hung by the me, my GA and the trapper
2)Two crus game. Lmao, 2 Crus game. N2:Crus #1[not me] kills a BG. N3:Me, the other crus, kills the spy who went on the crus #1, N4:Crus #1 kills invest who was checking me. Town still one but the Crus did more harm then the evils lmao
3)Town consisted of 3 Crus, 1 Amne Crus, 1 BG, 1 Doc, 1 Mayor, 1 Ret[Me]. Doc got hung, BG died doing his job, Crus all gradually ended up dead. It came down to just 1 Ret[me], 1 GF and 1 revealed Mayor. Town managed to win however Mayor almost game-threw by refusing to vote on what should have been the last day. Lucky for him I had 2 dead crus'to use to protect Mayor & GF chose to attack him on the last night instead of me.
to be fair in Game 3,
Had he not attacked, he may have lost
Had he attacked you, mayor could easily vote him
Attacking mayor was a gamble that you'd used all the crus already
There wasn't much he could do
@@niaford690 Actually the main gamble for the GF was "Is the ret legit?" On the last night I had 2 freshly dead Crus to use so he would have had to wait 2 nights before he could kill the Mayor & with the way that Mayor was playing the game sadly things could have gone either way. It was only because of communication between myself & the living Crus's during the game that the Mayor survived & town was able to win.
@@starhealer1 fair
18:31 "13 gone"
He is 13
He's gone 😅 ("")
15:44 out of context pipetron
"This is why retri sucks."
You were talking, voting and even pushing people you thought were sus to help town win pretty cleanly. Sounds pretty useful to me. It's not any worse than any other role that requires specific circumstances to function as intended.
That's unspecific to this role tho
Well that had nothing to do with being retri, that's just pipe being a good player. Retri can't do crap unless there's dead town which probably means town is losing and retri is a last chance role
Ahaha! I was just watching this video just because and I didnt realize that I was in both games this video XD Glad to see my jokes are doing well. I dont know how I was the same name in both games because I never do the same name two consecutive games but sometimes come back to the same names.
2 in morning... perfect
5
@@chuckdastump 5 indeed
In a recent Spy game of mine I accidentally missed the message that my target got transed and ended up getting 3 town members, including myself, killed.
Um
Oops
Happens to the best of us
Hey pipe do you play custom role lists in the patreon videos?
God that 11 did it guy is so annoying, playing the game by what you name yourself and forced name themes are so annoying
Always love your content and even go onto watch your older videos
How do you find out how many wins per role you got? Or have you been just keeping count since the beginning?
There's a statistics screen on the main menu. It'll tell you how many wins amongst other things you did during games
Why do Jests kill the people who guilty stereotypically? I always pick abstainers bc they didn’t help me win
Exe said target died. Wouldn’t they be jest????
They were just trying to get a last minute inno
Oh I was confused lol. Good bait then
That was awesome :D thanks Pipe!!
Ret should be able to control lynched jests to protect townies
game 2 was amazing COven just imploded on N1
JFC I can't play this game anymore.
Game 1: BG and Crus in discord. Chain n1. Didn't say a single thing in game. I asked how they knew to chain, and they said they were in discord. Crazy part... random 3rd person argues with me that it's not really cheating.
Game 2: I'm part of 4 maf team. 9 players left. Convince pirate to side with us to win the game. Bunch of people claim that pirate siding with maf is cheating.
SAME FUCKING PLAYER FROM GAME 1. SAYS IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN DISCORD. I can't even understand how people don't understand the difference between how whispering pirate in game is different from being in a discord with another player and sharing info.
15:44 huh?!!!!! 🤨📸
Why couldn't you use transporter? Is it because he d/c'ed?
I refuse to believe you can't use transporter as retri, when it literally says you can in the role
D1 eleven did it claim
Game 1: Necro
GG Great video as always :) - Brim
I’m new to coven mode so I’m confused as to why a PB just outs themselves when they’re evil. is it because they have no chance of winning so they just don’t care?
Its Because PB cant kill unless they become Pestilence so they hope that the Town inno's them and lynch someone else or another confirmed evil who can kill.
Its also used as a fake claim for vulnerable townies as you saw with the mayor. PB has defense so sometimes those townies claim it so evils wont even try to attack
Yup
"tHiS iS wHy rEt sUcKs!" It "sucked" because town was living and evils were dying so fast. Your team was winning so hard, the role was sub-optimal. Still a great position to be in.
Bork
I really think Ret should be reworked to select all townies, cloning any ability once. Even Jailor but since it is so powerful it would take 2 nights to execute.
Its just... so weak especially on some teams that were good like a trans, Vet and Mayor yet you can do nothing.
Plus some roles would actually be able to confirm yourself aside from the rare TP self protect. It would make you a massive target being a mayor or jailor.
some abilities (like retri and mayor) should just give an extra use of a corpse because they're either broken or unusable, but ye.
what happens when eleven did it is eleven?
Depends on what ‘it’ is. Maybe they are the crusader who killed the mafia.
Free jester win
How was there no mafia killing in the first game?
10 was the godfather he rage quit
@@msepiphqny Oh, I thought I was missing something. Thanks.
Hey that’s me
is the google version same as Steam version??
If the "Google version" means the browser version, then no. The steam version is paid, but runs smoother and there's no ads, unlike browser. You also get a bundle of goodies like custom skins and town points on steam.
The gameplay, however, is the same.
@@Rogeryoo thank you yeah thats what I mean. I remember having to do a log and and it has an unnecessary pay to play pass. that is kind of dumb
@@Rogeryoo Does they share the same servers? Also are "Browser" player able to get "Steam" player in there game?
I thought only CL with book appeared inno
nah any coven with book
Any Coven that gets necronomicon n3 shows as inno from then onwards
nice
5am tos
video SIXTY of asking pipe to play bloxston mystery again.
its been around 2 months, dang
I started claiming ret as useless
Nice! 💋👌