Most folks with the X-Class step-over just get a 3rd-party triangle battery and hang it in the center under the step-over bar. Plenty of room under there! :)
Yeah I've seen that quite a bit. I just don't like the way that looks and don't like the way those just dangle around. I'll probably fabricate a better mount when I get around to doing it. I like the cage on the grizzly rear battery and I'll probably do something like that.
Most of both Kepler and X class owners have been adding 2nd or 3 rd battery to these bikes for quite sometimes now, it is very easy to do, and very well worth it. Great channel 👍 subscribed !
The build quality on the ariel bikes is just great, I think. Love it. Also you can probably make your own seat for this thing pretty easily with stuff from the fabric/craft store.
Oh.. The Kepler has a top charge port. I never charge it on the bike but it is about thigh high. I'm buying a battery online for the Kepler. $400-$450 range through Ali Express. Charger and key with it. 👍You could make some kind of the down inside that top case for a spare battery. Just switch them out when one goes low. I'm also thinking of a Givi top case. Maybe some battery powered rear light on the back of the case. But on the Kepler we have a larger rack area I think. And the sides have protection to put on real motorcycle style waterproof saddlebags and a top dry bag. Many options for 60 liter or so worth or storage. Good video 👍😁
WOW!! Congrats on the 1000 miles amazing review its awesome bike for sure i like your mods very nice i have one in blue step thru its amazing machine 👍😎👍
It is different, it's not stock. I changed the handlebar to a bmx handlebar. Unfortunately I don't have a link for it but it's just a standard bmx bar. Look on Dan's comp website or Amazon, there's lots to choose from. But remember you don't really want to go higher than a 9 inch rise. I think I talk about the bars and accessories as I'm putting them on in my assembly videos, check them out. Thanks for the compliments on my bike, that's cool.
Back when I purchased the x-class it was one of the best bikes out there for the money. New bikes are coming out all the time. A couple of things I would really be looking at if I ever purchased a new bike would be how good is the suspension? All bikes have a suspension but most are not really good. And the second thing for me would be battery size. Speed is not really a factor for me, I like to keep it legal and the cops don't hassle me. If I want to go faster I have a motorcycle, lol. It will be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years. The wired freedom does look cool. But I'll say this, I have not had any problems or failures with the x-class, it just works and works well. I'm not sorry I purchased it.
the only solution I found to minimize the brake squeal is to clean the disc before every third/fourth ride. They barely make a peep after a quick wipe with a microfiber towel and brake cleaner. Great review. The x-class is best the bang for the buck.
@obeii1 Green pads are organic material. The tectros pads are color coded depending on what material they are made from. Get the ariel rider, it's a far better bike than the juiced bike. I looked at the juiced when I was shopping for my bike, I read too many negative reviews on the juiced. Plus the x-class is a faster bike when it's unlocked.
Thank you for that, I just try to be honest about it. I still love it and commute on it when the weather is nice. I still think it's the best bang for the buck! The 52v battery and the 1000 watt motor that peaks at 2000 watts is what makes it so fun to ride.
@rob burton I would dig a grizzly with one motor and the dual batteries. But we are all different and so are our needs. Folks are really happy with the grizzlies so I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Just a thought on the brakes… I find that the noise level significantly goes down as I apply the brakes aggressively. The harder I brake,the less noise.
Interesting thought, but unfortunately mine was just the opposite, lol. I have since replaced the brake pads with oem tektro green organic pads. I cleaned everything with brake clean and then I bedded the brakes again after the brake job and so far after a week they are still quiet, even after one panic stop when a car turned right in front of me.
i have the Sondors Madmod that's a daily driver I love it am totally hooked i have a heated vest for the morning. The speed seems to be the same. The rear shocks suck they are for looks I defiantly will check those tires out i have gotten many flats my tubes are full of patches it also need taller gears for higher speed Thanks i really liked the video
I think I would add about 4 or 5 inches of dense foam to that saddle and recover it. Maybe you can source after market rear shock that's air-filled etc.
Thanks for the feedback. I think part of the problem is the foam is too dense already. I've got a plan for the seat and the shock. The seat will probably get done over the winter here in Michigan. The current shock will probably just get a new softer spring.
I dunno, but it would probably take some modifications and wouldn't just be a bolt on. Plus a rebel seat might be to wide to comfortably pedal. Now that I have another seat for the seat pan I can modify the foam and sew up something one of a kind for the cover and it will be an easy bolt on. It'll be a winter project. I think I have all of the materials now.
Yeah I'm familiar with rusty roads and his videos, good stuff. Yup I tried that, worked for a bit and squeeking returned. I've been doing some research and at some point I'm gonna spend some cash and upgrade to Magura brakes, probably 4 piston.
Honest question: with that tall trunk top case… how do you manage to mount/dismount on your bike? I would love to see a video on someone getting his leg over this, I only imagine it being awkward and uncomfortable at best.
I don't find it to be a problem and I'm not the most flexible guy anymore, lol. I pick my leg up and step over it in a forward fashion, not a sideways swingover. And once I'm on the bike I don't really think about it. It's also nice to lean back on the case.
It's a bag I purchased from Amazon. If you watch the first 2 assembly videos I did I talk about it there and I may have left a link. I also did kind of a cool mount for it in the videos too.
Cool video and nice bike too! The center bag is a nice touch cuz I was planning to do the same with my bike just to cover the battery (which means I'd house the battery there and cut some holes to let the cables out). I was wondering if the bag is waterproof enough for rain and sturdy enough for light physical contact? Also, does it get in the way when you're pedaling? Thanks!
It doesn't get in the way when peddling. It is a fairly sturdy bag. Not sure on its waterproofnes as I don't ride in the rain, but I do use it everyday that it's not raining. The bag did come with a rain fly that you can cover the bag with. I go over the bag in the assembly and accessory videos that I made. I also show how I reinforced the bottom of the bag to make it more of a sturdy mount in one of the accessory videos.
Hey there, Greg, I'm a Michigander also in Pontiac. What is the spelling of the name and size info on your tires, so I'm sure to order the correct ones? Thanks.
About your brakes, You can't get them to stop squealing. Neither can I. But I don't have an Ariel. I have a generic Chinese bike (whose frame shows up on some American and Australian brands) and I can't stop the squealing. My bike shop says it is because I slow down gradually and glaze the brakes. But I do not intend to do sudden stops and get hit from behind. I think this might be a widespread problem with light disc-braked bikes.
I have gotten my brakes to stop squealing finally by changing the pads to an organic pad material. Been riding for about a month now and the squeal has not returned. Changing the pads to a different material or changing the rotor to thicker rotors will also help with the squeal. I believe your bike shop has given you bad information about why your brakes squeal. I would find another shop. Everyone slows down gradually, bikes, motorcycles etc. Brake squeal is caused by vibration, also known as chatter. It's common in cheap brakes like the Chinese use. What brand of brakes are on your bike? I did a video on changing the brake bads and one of my rotors that got bent in a crash. It might give you some tips.
Not really, I used soap and water in a squirt bottle and liberally applied it. I just used some plastic bicycle tire levers at the very end to slip the last of the tire on. Most of it I worked on with my hands. 1,500 miles so far and no flats! Tires are still in great shape.
I have been very happy with it. I still think it is the best buy for the dollar spent. The 1000 watt motor sets it apart from all the other bikes. It's not any faster it just gets you moving faster. If I wrecked it I would buy another one.
Hello again, Greg. I've subscribed and have been waiting for you to reply to a comment I left a little while ago about the info on the tires you upgraded to, as far as the spelling of the name and size info. I've done a little searching and am wondering if they are Shinko 244 Series Rear/Front Tire - 3.00-16? If not could you please reply the size info of the ones you use? Thank you.
You are correct on the name and size. Excellent tires, mine are wearing very good, or should I say not at all. I'm sorry, I thought I answered you earlier when you asked about them. I think I ordered them on amazon.Amazon. Here's a link. They are a little pricey but you get what you pay for, I've never had a flat in 1200 miles now. Shinko 244 Series Rear/Front Tire - 3.00-16 a.co/d/cDBv1xb
They probably would, but I upgraded mine to motorcycle tubes. The new tubes have lock nuts on them so the valve stem stays straight and won't get torn, a little thicker too I think.
Yeah well if you don't buy a bike from a shop who is going to fix it? It's the same with all off these Chinese bikes you order online. If they break you have to fix them. If you can't do that then buy a bike from a shop that can do the repairs for you. The Ariel rider x-class is unlike any other bike out there with its 2,000 watt motor and awesome power at its price range. I have almost 3,000 trouble free miles on mine. And yes I know what end of the screwdriver to hold on to and I'm capable of doing my own repairs if need be. Sorry you had problems with yours, most people do not. Pretty bold statement to say they are junk on my video because you had problems but thousands of others have not. And no where on there site do they say they will provide repairs, just cover warranty on parts. I am not sponsored or endorsed by them, just very happy with my bike. I get nothing extra from them, I bought my bike, put it together, modified it, and just enjoy it. If you have an issue with them you need to take it up with them, not me or my viewers that also have these bikes and enjoy them.
Most folks with the X-Class step-over just get a 3rd-party triangle battery and hang it in the center under the step-over bar. Plenty of room under there! :)
Yeah I've seen that quite a bit. I just don't like the way that looks and don't like the way those just dangle around. I'll probably fabricate a better mount when I get around to doing it. I like the cage on the grizzly rear battery and I'll probably do something like that.
Most of both Kepler and X class owners have been adding 2nd or 3 rd battery to these bikes for quite sometimes now, it is very easy to do, and very well worth it. Great channel 👍 subscribed !
And the Cruiser gets a second battery?
The build quality on the ariel bikes is just great, I think. Love it. Also you can probably make your own seat for this thing pretty easily with stuff from the fabric/craft store.
Yeah I've been collecting stuff to re do the seat. Too many projects and not enough time it seems, lol. But it's on the to do list.
Oh.. The Kepler has a top charge port. I never charge it on the bike but it is about thigh high. I'm buying a battery online for the Kepler. $400-$450 range through Ali Express. Charger and key with it. 👍You could make some kind of the down inside that top case for a spare battery. Just switch them out when one goes low. I'm also thinking of a Givi top case. Maybe some battery powered rear light on the back of the case. But on the Kepler we have a larger rack area I think. And the sides have protection to put on real motorcycle style waterproof saddlebags and a top dry bag. Many options for 60 liter or so worth or storage. Good video 👍😁
I bought one and I love it. I’m 253 pounds 5 foot 11 and it’s just perfect.
I'm coming up on my 3rd season with it and still dig it and really have no desire for anything else. Been a great trouble free bike.
Thanks for the update. My Grizzly should come next week. Very excited.
I'd be excited too!
I was going to order one online tonight and it said back ordered. How long did it take from order to receive it?
@@armorofgod4681 I ordered it the beginning of September
I unlocked mine it goes the full 40 mph. I love it it’s so fun on trails
WOW!! Congrats on the 1000 miles amazing review its awesome bike for sure i like your mods very nice i have one in blue step thru its amazing machine 👍😎👍
Thanks Greg
The finders looks great. Might not protect everything but they look great.
And that's all the really do, just look good. I have changed them since I made this video.
The handlebar looks different can you tell where did you buy it or the link to it please 🙏🏻 your bike looks sick btw
It is different, it's not stock. I changed the handlebar to a bmx handlebar. Unfortunately I don't have a link for it but it's just a standard bmx bar. Look on Dan's comp website or Amazon, there's lots to choose from. But remember you don't really want to go higher than a 9 inch rise.
I think I talk about the bars and accessories as I'm putting them on in my assembly videos, check them out.
Thanks for the compliments on my bike, that's cool.
Wired Freedom goes 38mph and is only $2000. 26x4 with full suspension is much more comfortable than 20x4 and it pedals like a real bike.
Back when I purchased the x-class it was one of the best bikes out there for the money. New bikes are coming out all the time. A couple of things I would really be looking at if I ever purchased a new bike would be how good is the suspension? All bikes have a suspension but most are not really good. And the second thing for me would be battery size. Speed is not really a factor for me, I like to keep it legal and the cops don't hassle me. If I want to go faster I have a motorcycle, lol. It will be interesting to see what comes out in the next couple of years. The wired freedom does look cool. But I'll say this, I have not had any problems or failures with the x-class, it just works and works well. I'm not sorry I purchased it.
Excellent video. Very informative. Thank you
the only solution I found to minimize the brake squeal is to clean the disc before every third/fourth ride. They barely make a peep after a quick wipe with a microfiber towel and brake cleaner. Great review. The x-class is best the bang for the buck.
I have recently changed the brake pads to green pads and the squeal is gone. It's been a few weeks now and still quiet.
@@woodtickgreg6926 green pad? Explain .. I think of getting this bike this week for my son or the hyper scorpion by juiced
@obeii1 Green pads are organic material. The tectros pads are color coded depending on what material they are made from. Get the ariel rider, it's a far better bike than the juiced bike. I looked at the juiced when I was shopping for my bike, I read too many negative reviews on the juiced. Plus the x-class is a faster bike when it's unlocked.
Great review and comments! Thank you!
Thank you for that, I just try to be honest about it. I still love it and commute on it when the weather is nice. I still think it's the best bang for the buck! The 52v battery and the 1000 watt motor that peaks at 2000 watts is what makes it so fun to ride.
@@woodtickgreg6926 My needs are a little different, so I think I’m going to go with the Grizzly. But, your review helped a lot.
@rob burton I would dig a grizzly with one motor and the dual batteries. But we are all different and so are our needs. Folks are really happy with the grizzlies so I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Thanks for the update. Nice upgrades and good video.
Thanks mister Jeff! How's your bike serving you?
Well. Only 185 miles however. Still a winner in my book. No desire to change or upgrade which is unusual for me.
Yup, same for me, I have no desire for anything else. I like this bike. I've ridden others but this one suits me.
Good review
Just a thought on the brakes… I find that the noise level significantly goes down as I apply the brakes aggressively. The harder I brake,the less noise.
Interesting thought, but unfortunately mine was just the opposite, lol. I have since replaced the brake pads with oem tektro green organic pads. I cleaned everything with brake clean and then I bedded the brakes again after the brake job and so far after a week they are still quiet, even after one panic stop when a car turned right in front of me.
i have the Sondors Madmod that's a daily driver I love it am totally hooked i have a heated vest for the morning. The speed seems to be the same. The rear shocks suck they are for looks I defiantly will check those tires out i have gotten many flats my tubes are full of patches it also need taller gears for higher speed Thanks i really liked the video
Beautiful bike man
The shock spring is totally replaceable with a less stiff spring. Consult with shock manufacturer. They usually code the spring by color.
I already replaced it after this video, lol. I have a video on it. It drastically improved the ride.
I think I would add about 4 or 5 inches of dense foam to that saddle and recover it. Maybe you can source after market rear shock that's air-filled etc.
Thanks for the feedback. I think part of the problem is the foam is too dense already. I've got a plan for the seat and the shock. The seat will probably get done over the winter here in Michigan. The current shock will probably just get a new softer spring.
Why don’t you just carry a spare, charged battery in that huge box on the back for longer range?
Believe it or not the battery is so long I don't think it would fit. Box is only on the bike for my work commute to cary my lunch bag and thermos.
10:00 I wonder if a Honda Rebel seat would work as a replacement? It is wider and should provide additional support.
I dunno, but it would probably take some modifications and wouldn't just be a bolt on. Plus a rebel seat might be to wide to comfortably pedal. Now that I have another seat for the seat pan I can modify the foam and sew up something one of a kind for the cover and it will be an easy bolt on. It'll be a winter project. I think I have all of the materials now.
Hi Greg, Check out Rusty Roads "How to Avoid Loud E-Bike Brakes". It worked for me. No squeaky brakes. Good video, thanks!
Yeah I'm familiar with rusty roads and his videos, good stuff. Yup I tried that, worked for a bit and squeeking returned. I've been doing some research and at some point I'm gonna spend some cash and upgrade to Magura brakes, probably 4 piston.
Honest question: with that tall trunk top case… how do you manage to mount/dismount on your bike? I would love to see a video on someone getting his leg over this, I only imagine it being awkward and uncomfortable at best.
I don't find it to be a problem and I'm not the most flexible guy anymore, lol. I pick my leg up and step over it in a forward fashion, not a sideways swingover. And once I'm on the bike I don't really think about it. It's also nice to lean back on the case.
Man great video I saw so many but yours feel more on point especially I am in older man myself
may i ask which tank bag you have? and did you have to add anything to frame to mount the bag (make it more stable?) thanks a bunch.
It's a bag I purchased from Amazon. If you watch the first 2 assembly videos I did I talk about it there and I may have left a link. I also did kind of a cool mount for it in the videos too.
thanks for the fast response. i will have to check out the other vids. cheers! @@woodtickgreg6926
Awesome review! Just purchased mine. Do you know the exact size Shinko tires I need to get? I see they have 16x3, not seeing 16x3.5.
Off the top of my head I can't remember, but I do mention it in one of my other videos when I was setting it up. Your gonna dig the bike!
I just looked at the video, they are 16 x 3.
Cool video and nice bike too! The center bag is a nice touch cuz I was planning to do the same with my bike just to cover the battery (which means I'd house the battery there and cut some holes to let the cables out). I was wondering if the bag is waterproof enough for rain and sturdy enough for light physical contact? Also, does it get in the way when you're pedaling? Thanks!
It doesn't get in the way when peddling. It is a fairly sturdy bag. Not sure on its waterproofnes as I don't ride in the rain, but I do use it everyday that it's not raining. The bag did come with a rain fly that you can cover the bag with. I go over the bag in the assembly and accessory videos that I made. I also show how I reinforced the bottom of the bag to make it more of a sturdy mount in one of the accessory videos.
Hey there, Greg, I'm a Michigander also in Pontiac. What is the spelling of the name and size info on your tires, so I'm sure to order the correct ones? Thanks.
About your brakes, You can't get them to stop squealing. Neither can I. But I don't have an Ariel. I have a generic Chinese bike (whose frame shows up on some American and Australian brands) and I can't stop the squealing. My bike shop says it is because I slow down gradually and glaze the brakes. But I do not intend to do sudden stops and get hit from behind. I think this might be a widespread problem with light disc-braked bikes.
I have gotten my brakes to stop squealing finally by changing the pads to an organic pad material. Been riding for about a month now and the squeal has not returned. Changing the pads to a different material or changing the rotor to thicker rotors will also help with the squeal. I believe your bike shop has given you bad information about why your brakes squeal. I would find another shop. Everyone slows down gradually, bikes, motorcycles etc. Brake squeal is caused by vibration, also known as chatter. It's common in cheap brakes like the Chinese use. What brand of brakes are on your bike? I did a video on changing the brake bads and one of my rotors that got bent in a crash. It might give you some tips.
Awesome video any link or name for that rear storage?
It's a Givi top box. It's linked in one of my assembly videos, so is the tank bag.
@@woodtickgreg6926ty so much! I will look. Also I’m subscribing, wish more people made more honest E-Bike videos. 👍🏻
where did u get the tires, and how much?
Look at my other videos when I was assembling the bike, links are in there. I got them on Amazon. They where about $45 a piece a year ago.
You need a direct drive motor for high speeds.
Yeah thanks, I'm not looking for high speeds out of the bike, just longer range.
@@woodtickgreg6926 . Yes I knew that from your video. The comment was for the younger viewers.
Cool
Good video
what about switchover batteries like double tanks
Well I'll be adding another battery if that's what you mean.
I have same bike were the tires hard to put on
Not really, I used soap and water in a squirt bottle and liberally applied it. I just used some plastic bicycle tire levers at the very end to slip the last of the tire on. Most of it I worked on with my hands.
1,500 miles so far and no flats! Tires are still in great shape.
Can you use same inner tube from original tires?
You can, but I installed motorcycle tubes because they are a little thicker and have locknuts on the stem
Do you have a link to the mirrors you're using?
Hafny New Handlebar Bike Mirror, HD Blast-Resistant, Safe Crystal Clear Glass Mirror, Adjustable Rotatable Bike Mirror, Rearview Mirror, Bicycle Mirror,HF-MR095 a.co/d/8YDmEXh
How much this super bike ?
It was $2,200, but then I put more money into it to make it mine and fix it up the way I wanted it. But I would do that with any bike.
@@woodtickgreg6926 it's so good bro👏👏 , i like it , mybe i will buy like this bike
I have been very happy with it. I still think it is the best buy for the dollar spent. The 1000 watt motor sets it apart from all the other bikes. It's not any faster it just gets you moving faster. If I wrecked it I would buy another one.
Hello again, Greg. I've subscribed and have been waiting for you to reply to a comment I left a little while ago about the info on the tires you upgraded to, as far as the spelling of the name and size info. I've done a little searching and am wondering if they are Shinko 244 Series Rear/Front Tire - 3.00-16? If not could you please reply the size info of the ones you use? Thank you.
You are correct on the name and size. Excellent tires, mine are wearing very good, or should I say not at all. I'm sorry, I thought I answered you earlier when you asked about them. I think I ordered them on amazon.Amazon.
Here's a link. They are a little pricey but you get what you pay for, I've never had a flat in 1200 miles now.
Shinko 244 Series Rear/Front Tire - 3.00-16 a.co/d/cDBv1xb
Thank you. Have a wonderful day.
Oh, one last thing. Do the stock 4.00 inner tubes fit inside and work for the 3.00 tires? Thanks.
They probably would, but I upgraded mine to motorcycle tubes. The new tubes have lock nuts on them so the valve stem stays straight and won't get torn, a little thicker too I think.
@@woodtickgreg6926 Sweet! Do you have a link for those also?
its junk dont buy it. just returned mine. company expects you to do all repairs even if defective. DONT DO IT!
Yeah well if you don't buy a bike from a shop who is going to fix it? It's the same with all off these Chinese bikes you order online. If they break you have to fix them. If you can't do that then buy a bike from a shop that can do the repairs for you. The Ariel rider x-class is unlike any other bike out there with its 2,000 watt motor and awesome power at its price range. I have almost 3,000 trouble free miles on mine. And yes I know what end of the screwdriver to hold on to and I'm capable of doing my own repairs if need be. Sorry you had problems with yours, most people do not. Pretty bold statement to say they are junk on my video because you had problems but thousands of others have not. And no where on there site do they say they will provide repairs, just cover warranty on parts. I am not sponsored or endorsed by them, just very happy with my bike. I get nothing extra from them, I bought my bike, put it together, modified it, and just enjoy it. If you have an issue with them you need to take it up with them, not me or my viewers that also have these bikes and enjoy them.
Its the best bike you can buy for money period end of discussion ✌️
@@coolshariq mine was defective and they wouldnt take it back had to sell on marketplace and took a 300 loss. Say what you will they arent great.
EXCELLENT REVIEW!!