This is seriously one of your best episodes ever. I hope you will delve more into individual territories in further episodes. I have been a fan for 34 years and I learned a ton from this one.
FANTASTIC EPISODE!!!!! 🙌🙌🙌 pleeeeeeease make this a regular thing with Bruce talking about the great promoters and territories of the past. Thoroughly enjoyed this and can’t wait for the next one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
One of the best episodes in a while. Cant wait for a follow up. Itd be cool to have a guest or two that was a mainstay with the territory being discussed
I would rather listen to Bruce riff on the territories over getting breakdowns on the career of Golden Era wrestlers....respectfully speaking. This is what I'm here for!
Great episode Gents! Regarding the San Francisco Territory, Roy Shire had the same philosophy as Bill Watts and Eddie Graham. Ray Stevens was the "Top Dog" and locker room leader from 1961 until the early 70s when he left to wrestle for the AWA. Patterson then became the "Top Dog" until he left, but Ray and Pat were always the top draws in the territory. Shire was considered a great payoff guy too. I always heard that Ray Stevens made over a $100k a year in the early 1960s. By 1979, attendance began to shrink because Stevens and Patterson were gone except for Battle Royal appearances. Anyway, Roy was burnt out, and then he had heart attack in 1980 and lost his TV contract. He made a ton of money and had a huge chicken ranch in Sonoma county, so he dissolved Big Time Wrestling and retired. Verne Gagne came in around 1981 but the AWA drew poorly in the Bay Area.
I don’t know why but this shit is the most interesting type of shit to me… hearing about random people from the decades gone and their story or importance to the business… this is why we love Bruce and why we love your fatass Conrad 🤙🏼 keep Kickin ass 🙌🏼
The tales from the past are so good when wrestlers were wrestlers now days I can't stand anyone it's so much more entertaining to listen to their stories as opposed to today lady boy divas.
Thanks for doing this episode. I have been wanting territory talk for awile. Fascinating topic. I'd like to see the Dark Side of the Ring show run a series on the topic.
I had a good thing happen other day. I was thinking i hated i never saw brother love in person. Saw the good doctor, one of the best,several times. Then i watched a youtube of a memphis championship wrestling from Sam's town in Mississippi. The one with Dustin Diamond. Bruce came out with mr.regal , they walked by me! I didn't recognize him.i got happier
What made this and part 2 of the Territory episode so great was the lack of the schticks and gimmicks (see paint of coat/hot?how hot?....) Hardly any old worn out, repetitive impersonations, not being started by Conrad's obnoxious loud forced laugh, no purposely pronouncing words incorrectly and then spending the proceeding 3 mins talking about making it a t-shirt (so staged). Conrad's best stuff is during the first 6 months of any new podcast he creates.
I grew up in Houston during the Paul Bosch years. Fond memories to say the least. We had a weekly every Friday at the Sam Houston Coliseum. While WWE only came to town a couple of times a year. Just don't understand why the two can't exist today where you have a weekly company that puts a show on every week while the bigger company only came to town twice a year.
@4:52 movies based on true stories have problems staying true due to rights fees, budget, who is available, and straight drama. For example the remember the titans team beat everyone by 50. That doesn’t make a great movie. There was no need for a trick play to win a championship.
1:11:29 that’s the biggest problem with today’s wrestling is you’ve got a bunch of guys that know how to do moves in high spots and they’re trying to please. Uncle Dave but nobody’s really drawing money. WWE seems to be getting a better handle on that lately, but AEW this is their biggest problem. Tony is catering to an audience that’s going to be there no matter how good or how bad the product is. Curt Hennig is widely regarded as one of the best workers ever and do you know how many times he did a high spot? I can’t think of one time I ever saw him do a high spot.
Damn good show! Seen Ray Stevens in the AWA, such an instinctive pro wrestler. And Buddy Rose, late in his career, looking so out of shape, and YET he and Doug Sommers outrunning both a young Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannety for an hour to humble them made for great tag team matches.
The story of stu having a bear under the house is true, it's in Bret Hart's biography. Bret used to drip ice cream on to his feet & the bear would lick it off !😂 (I did hear they had to keep the bear away from Mel Philips though! 😂)
I grew up in NY state getting my wrestling from Rochester and thought the WWF was the major leagues and the rest were minor leagues. I guess by the late 80’s that is what it became. I had no idea that wrestling was territorial until UA-cam.
I never quite understood why a single national wrestling company couldn't co-exist with smaller territory companies. WWE might come to certain cities 2-3 times a year? Why couldn't smaller companies focus on a limited areas thrive?
WWF took the top talents from most promotions. It was also the aim to kill the competition, which seems short sighted, but it worked out for them. It might have been unavoidable with cable TV. Seemed like a much better way to do business to have loads of places to work though.
All I ever did was wanna be in the wrestling crime business... Goodfellas by bruce prichard u gotta cut vince loose. when the business goes down nobody' gonna believe you diddnt know and that u only didnt say anything cause the courts. u need to get "fired" turn on that evil and go public
Bruce talk to Tom before you talk about Portland..... They never did show in the Rose Garden. Don bought a bowling alley an turned it into the Portland Sports Arena. When they closed down it became a church.... An is still standing. Bill Jack started a promotion in Oregon City and went against Don. He also got it on TV. But I don't think it lasted more than a year..
What was he supposed to do? Bring out the bare bulb and rubber hose? Look, I wanted to hear his take on the situation too. But I get that he can’t say anything, for the reasons stated. (Mind you, He may end up having to… on a witness stand and under oath)
Bruce Is Wrong In Most Of Chronological Order And Cowboy Scott Casey Dumped Cow Chips On Hangman Bobby Jaggers And It Was Bruiser Bob Sweetan And Eric Embry That Blew Things Up And Then They Never Aired Tully Blanchard vs Bob Sweetan BUT They Would Have Still Had A Show But Joe Blanchard Was Behind Paying The USA Network And Even Though They Were A Top Show With HUGE Ratings Southwest Championship Wrestling Was Paying USA Network Huge Money Every Week To Be On Also In June Of 1983 Southwest Wrestling Was Drawiing Huge At The HemiFair Arena Was Sold Out Or Almost Sold Out Along With A Lot Of Area Shows They Tried Going To Ohio And Pennsylvania Outside Of Texas And Then Lost Television When Area Television Was Sold Out From Under Joe Blanchard And Vince McMahon Jr Bought Southwest Championship Wrestling Spot And Created All American Wrestling The Biggest Business Southwest Championship Wrestling Had Was The Sheepherders With Johnathan Boyd And Luke Williams Cowboy Scott Casey Feuding With Hangman Bobby Jaggers When Bobby Turns Sympathizer With The Sheepherders Before Johnathan Boyd Has His Car Accident Adrian Adonis Won The Southwest World Heavyweight Championship In 1983 But Almost Never Worked Any Shows As Champion Give Or Take This IS The Right Story Of How Southwest Paraphrasing A Little
@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths it certainly can be. I was legit embarrassed at points watching the girls Royal Rumble. Those are not wrestlers, those were a bunch of cosplayers pretending to wrestle.
I think it's time for territory wrestling to make a return. Now that Vince McMahon is no longer in the business. It would be a good time to return to territory wrestling.
This is seriously one of your best episodes ever. I hope you will delve more into individual territories in further episodes. I have been a fan for 34 years and I learned a ton from this one.
FANTASTIC EPISODE!!!!! 🙌🙌🙌 pleeeeeeease make this a regular thing with Bruce talking about the great promoters and territories of the past. Thoroughly enjoyed this and can’t wait for the next one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
One of the best episodes in a while. Cant wait for a follow up. Itd be cool to have a guest or two that was a mainstay with the territory being discussed
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One of my top five favorite episodes! More old school wrestling talk!!! Great show guys and thank you!
Great episode! Feels very vintage STW with Bruce just telling fantastic stories, an easy listen. More of this please!
Bruce has the best wrestling podcast easily … always worth the watch/listen 🤙🏼🍻
Best episode in a few yrs. Bravo.
I’m here for this.
Watched the episode twice.
Thanks guys.
I just finished this one and right away I said man I gotta hear this one again, awesome show
Arkansas (midsouth territory) checking in.
I would rather listen to Bruce riff on the territories over getting breakdowns on the career of Golden Era wrestlers....respectfully speaking. This is what I'm here for!
Great episode Gents! Regarding the San Francisco Territory, Roy Shire had the same philosophy as Bill Watts and Eddie Graham. Ray Stevens was the "Top Dog" and locker room leader from 1961 until the early 70s when he left to wrestle for the AWA. Patterson then became the "Top Dog" until he left, but Ray and Pat were always the top draws in the territory. Shire was considered a great payoff guy too. I always heard that Ray Stevens made over a $100k a year in the early 1960s. By 1979, attendance began to shrink because Stevens and Patterson were gone except for Battle Royal appearances. Anyway, Roy was burnt out, and then he had heart attack in 1980 and lost his TV contract. He made a ton of money and had a huge chicken ranch in Sonoma county, so he dissolved Big Time Wrestling and retired. Verne Gagne came in around 1981 but the AWA drew poorly in the Bay Area.
I remember Moondog Mayne more than anyone else at the palace
I was a HUGE BTW fan from the 60's and 70's also. Do you know if any of the KTVU Walt Harris tapes are still available?
Great episode. Love hearing about the history.
i Really Enjoyed this Episode...
Thanks Fellas
I don’t know why but this shit is the most interesting type of shit to me… hearing about random people from the decades gone and their story or importance to the business… this is why we love Bruce and why we love your fatass Conrad 🤙🏼 keep Kickin ass 🙌🏼
The tales from the past are so good when wrestlers were wrestlers now days I can't stand anyone it's so much more entertaining to listen to their stories as opposed to today lady boy divas.
Thanks for doing this episode. I have been wanting territory talk for awile. Fascinating topic. I'd like to see the Dark Side of the Ring show run a series on the topic.
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Best episode in awhile
Need a Part 2, Part 3, etc. to this to talk about the other major territories.
Great episode! Felt like old times ❤
Confessions of a dangerous mind was definitely worth seeing. Sam Rockwell is a great actor.
Great show........
If you could combine all the books, artifacts and records that Bruce and Corny have, wow that would be a wrestling historians dream collection.
I had a good thing happen other day. I was thinking i hated i never saw brother love in person. Saw the good doctor, one of the best,several times. Then i watched a youtube of a memphis championship wrestling from Sam's town in Mississippi. The one with Dustin Diamond. Bruce came out with mr.regal , they walked by me! I didn't recognize him.i got happier
Conrad and Bruce talking bears wrestling had me rolling 😂😂😂 I mean Conrad needs a ENT Dr asap but that was funny
This is cool thx guys
What made this and part 2 of the Territory episode so great was the lack of the schticks and gimmicks (see paint of coat/hot?how hot?....) Hardly any old worn out, repetitive impersonations, not being started by Conrad's obnoxious loud forced laugh, no purposely pronouncing words incorrectly and then spending the proceeding 3 mins talking about making it a t-shirt (so staged). Conrad's best stuff is during the first 6 months of any new podcast he creates.
I grew up in Houston during the Paul Bosch years. Fond memories to say the least. We had a weekly every Friday at the Sam Houston Coliseum. While WWE only came to town a couple of times a year. Just don't understand why the two can't exist today where you have a weekly company that puts a show on every week while the bigger company only came to town twice a year.
I've never been more hype to go watch Ray Stevens matches in my life 😂
Silence is compliance
@4:52 movies based on true stories have problems staying true due to rights fees, budget, who is available, and straight drama. For example the remember the titans team beat everyone by 50. That doesn’t make a great movie. There was no need for a trick play to win a championship.
1:11:29 that’s the biggest problem with today’s wrestling is you’ve got a bunch of guys that know how to do moves in high spots and they’re trying to please. Uncle Dave but nobody’s really drawing money. WWE seems to be getting a better handle on that lately, but AEW this is their biggest problem. Tony is catering to an audience that’s going to be there no matter how good or how bad the product is. Curt Hennig is widely regarded as one of the best workers ever and do you know how many times he did a high spot? I can’t think of one time I ever saw him do a high spot.
16:48 Bruce talking about current stuff for once, kinda sort of
Beyond boring
Damn good show! Seen Ray Stevens in the AWA, such an instinctive pro wrestler. And Buddy Rose, late in his career, looking so out of shape, and YET he and Doug Sommers outrunning both a young Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannety for an hour to humble them made for great tag team matches.
I lost it when Bruce said you have to ask the bear if their working baby face or heel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey...Bruce isn't messed up on pain killers in this episode! Sounds better! Must be The Awesome Kind!!
He's messed up with guilt
More territory topics please
based on a true story, in hollywood they only have to be 5% true to put that in the credits
Texas chainsaw based on the life and times of Ed Gein,the taxidermy mo'cheen'
The story of stu having a bear under the house is true, it's in Bret Hart's biography. Bret used to drip ice cream on to his feet & the bear would lick it off !😂 (I did hear they had to keep the bear away from Mel Philips though! 😂)
8:40
Greatest
I grew up in NY state getting my wrestling from Rochester and thought the WWF was the major leagues and the rest were minor leagues. I guess by the late 80’s that is what it became. I had no idea that wrestling was territorial until UA-cam.
Hope the fullers u discuss special dr Tom was a big star in the territory
Why aren't these episodes numbered anymore? Going to be annoying trying to search up episodes if i've missed one.
Too many repeats and compilations.
What was your thoughts on the portrayal of the free birds?
more of this
Was that Sabu getting stretched by Stu? 1:25:45
Gene, Gene the Dancing Machine! 😊
Brett has said he used to let the bear lick the melted pudding pop off his toes. I believe it was in the A&E Biography
I hope Bruce doesn't die from a stress-induced heart attack. The world would be devastated.
Not really he was Vince butt kisser. Tbh
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Greetings from the pooping capital of the world… Mr Mcmahons house.
I don't believe it.
Good shit pal
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You might just have to eat a shit sandwich and act like you enjoy it pal
Why couldn't they use Jay Lethal to play Flair in the movie? 😂😂😂
Why not, Hollywood loves turning white characters black. At least Jay Lethal is good and would have nailed the role perfectly.
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@@Phoenix114 classic.
Netflix would
I wonder if Bruce knows much about Ed Farhat/The Sheik and Big Time Wrestling? :D
Jay Lethal should’ve played Ric Flair
Bruce wants to talk about anything but current WWE 😂
Let's go back 40 years and talk about the territories!
Bret Hart actually shared a few stories about the bear living at their house.
I guess Conrad never made it through it.
I may be behind but what happened to Bruce's hand/arm/shoulder
Maybe try goofle
Torn labrum and triceps. Was that so hard poster above me?
Invite Ronda Rousey for an interview. That'll bring out the big bucks.
Put butts in the seats
I never quite understood why a single national wrestling company couldn't co-exist with smaller territory companies. WWE might come to certain cities 2-3 times a year? Why couldn't smaller companies focus on a limited areas thrive?
WWF took the top talents from most promotions. It was also the aim to kill the competition, which seems short sighted, but it worked out for them.
It might have been unavoidable with cable TV. Seemed like a much better way to do business to have loads of places to work though.
Bruce knows his time with wwe is about to be over very soon. He knows he’s going to only have this podcast so he’s stepping up his game finally
No No No!!!! Boooooooooo, We want Nasty We want Nasty!!!! Straight outta Nasty-Ville
Why are they talking about the Ric Flair character?Kerry Von Eric is over 6 ft his character is like 5'8
It’s a movie…. It I think Kary was cast wrong too
Rip Moondog Mayne!!!
Eddie Graham 100% learned from Dory not the other way around
All I ever did was wanna be in the wrestling crime business...
Goodfellas by bruce prichard
u gotta cut vince loose.
when the business goes down nobody' gonna believe you diddnt know and that u only didnt say anything cause the courts.
u need to get "fired" turn on that evil and go public
Go get your shinebox!
Bruce talk to Tom before you talk about Portland..... They never did show in the Rose Garden. Don bought a bowling alley an turned it into the Portland Sports Arena. When they closed down it became a church.... An is still standing.
Bill Jack started a promotion in Oregon City and went against Don. He also got it on TV. But I don't think it lasted more than a year..
Only a bear . And it was under the porch lol . "Brets book"
Time for a diversion and a swerve
Lost respect for you Conrad anybody else you would have held thier foot to the fire about Vince
Conman
Shut upbypur ridiculous
Noone cares if you respect Conrad or not
What was he supposed to do? Bring out the bare bulb and rubber hose? Look, I wanted to hear his take on the situation too. But I get that he can’t say anything, for the reasons stated. (Mind you, He may end up having to… on a witness stand and under oath)
I’m so sick of hearing about McMahon. The woman is a liar looking for a cash grab not to mention we have known who he is for years.
Bruce Is Wrong In Most Of Chronological Order And Cowboy Scott Casey Dumped Cow Chips On Hangman Bobby Jaggers And It Was Bruiser Bob Sweetan And Eric Embry That Blew Things Up And Then They Never Aired Tully Blanchard vs Bob Sweetan BUT They Would Have Still Had A Show But Joe Blanchard Was Behind Paying The USA Network And Even Though They Were A Top Show With HUGE Ratings Southwest Championship Wrestling Was Paying USA Network Huge Money Every Week To Be On
Also In June Of 1983 Southwest Wrestling Was Drawiing Huge At The HemiFair Arena Was Sold Out Or Almost Sold Out Along With A Lot Of Area Shows They Tried Going To Ohio And Pennsylvania Outside Of Texas And Then Lost Television When Area Television Was Sold Out From Under Joe Blanchard And Vince McMahon Jr Bought Southwest Championship Wrestling Spot And Created All American Wrestling
The Biggest Business Southwest Championship Wrestling Had Was The Sheepherders With Johnathan Boyd And Luke Williams Cowboy Scott Casey Feuding With Hangman Bobby Jaggers When Bobby Turns Sympathizer With The Sheepherders Before Johnathan Boyd Has His Car Accident
Adrian Adonis Won The Southwest World Heavyweight Championship In 1983 But Almost Never Worked Any Shows As Champion
Give Or Take This IS The Right Story Of How Southwest
Paraphrasing A Little
That was the worst Stu Hart impression I've ever heard. So bad it was funny though. 😂
Ro-elephant-om
Women's elimination
chamber going to steal the show
😬 women's wrestling is so cringe
@@The_Sage_of_Six_Pathsagree piss break
Only if Lynch can somehow carry the whole thing
Lol
@The_Sage_of_Six_Paths it certainly can be. I was legit embarrassed at points watching the girls Royal Rumble. Those are not wrestlers, those were a bunch of cosplayers pretending to wrestle.
MJF would have been a better Flair than that yahoo.
I think Bruce is using coke. Blood pressure on the bear in Calgary. 😂
I think it's time for territory wrestling to make a return. Now that Vince McMahon is no longer in the business. It would be a good time to return to territory wrestling.
😂😂😂
Lol Jesus a heel bear calls the match LMAO!!!!
*Knock knock* Feds: Open up, Bruce......
Paul Lee is a joke and I won't be watching the movie. I watched the territory as a young fan and the movies never hold up
The film sucked ...was sad cause it could have been awesome... Hollywood sucks