BEATRIX NERF IS FINALLY HERE - IS IT ENOUGH?

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  • BEATRIX NERF IS FINALLY HERE - IS IT ENOUGH?
    So the perfectly balanced Beatrix just received a lot of nerfs here on advance server
    Let's check them out one by one
    Notice: This content is created based on Moonton’s Material and complies with Derivative Content Policy, Moonton does not endorse this content.

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  • @lmfao9146
    @lmfao9146 2 роки тому +805

    It's only fair she gets nerfed, saw a comment where he was using Johnson with Blade Armor and Antique Cuirass and Bea melted him with shotgun

    • @jpm8027
      @jpm8027 2 роки тому +106

      as a bea main i still think the nerf is good because i did the same thing to an aldous and balmond

    • @itscloudy2day
      @itscloudy2day 2 роки тому +70

      @@jpm8027 the problem is the shotgun, we usually counter heros using shotgun.But now we might need to focus more on submachine or grenade ._.

    • @Yoriichi_Sengoku
      @Yoriichi_Sengoku 2 роки тому +9

      not thesame thing if JS equipped Vengance

    • @jpm8027
      @jpm8027 2 роки тому +26

      @@itscloudy2day yeah im always scared of bushes when i dont see bea on the mini map and i think i gave a haya ptsd because i saw him on the mini map checking bushes a lot with second skill lol

    • @elaprime2897
      @elaprime2897 2 роки тому +3

      @@itscloudy2day if we focus on the rest she will become useless just like hanabi and that is not fair lol

  • @_Double_M_
    @_Double_M_ 2 роки тому +42

    There should be some damage limit on her sniper and shotgun ults…. There was a time where 1.5k-2k damage was counted as insane, but new released heroes and revamped ones are hitting 4k+ damage which is quite unfair to the old heroes who are not in meta right now.

    • @diamondfrost7593
      @diamondfrost7593 2 роки тому +3

      And the physical def items were like nothing to use, I even put in twilight armor and guardian helmet to reduce the dmg.

    • @diamondfrost7593
      @diamondfrost7593 2 роки тому +5

      And that cost 4 item slots to withstand her dmg.

    • @chicken4699
      @chicken4699 2 роки тому +5

      Im dyrroth user i sacrifice alot of my slot for defense but its pretty useless because she can just bypass it and still able to deal 5k to 7k damage with 1 hit

    • @_Double_M_
      @_Double_M_ 2 роки тому +4

      I know guys, I am tank main and I still can’t tank much bullets against her… I think developers are creating their own favourite meta heroes now XD

    • @chicken4699
      @chicken4699 2 роки тому +1

      @@_Double_M_ same only my franco or gloo can work to counter her

  • @liliannareyes5066
    @liliannareyes5066 2 роки тому +175

    As a Barats main I find it bs how old Beatrix was able to take me down in 4 sniper shots, like I still think this isn’t enough as more people are just gonna build attack speed items and she’ll still have insane dmg

    • @ulquiorra6161
      @ulquiorra6161 2 роки тому +20

      if you're a fighter her shotgun is more annoying
      i've never seen someone get hit by a sniper everytime lol

    • @multatuli1
      @multatuli1 2 роки тому +27

      @@ulquiorra6161 barats had no dash skills

    • @ulquiorra6161
      @ulquiorra6161 2 роки тому +2

      @@multatuli1 yeah i know but i never seen a beatrix user that can hit a hero every single time lol im playing in mythic rank and never encounter one
      cause barats usually accompanied by mathilda or yve sometimes angela for his movement

    • @icey_john
      @icey_john 2 роки тому

      man now i wish beatrix adapts better use of demon hunter to counter barats users, cheap cheap dinosaur

    • @Name-gg1li
      @Name-gg1li 2 роки тому +1

      @@ulquiorra6161 I have a friend that somehow hits all of his snipers shots

  • @its_ed
    @its_ed 2 роки тому +202

    This will just end up with Beatrix using more attack speed with her sniper, which means high damage plus attack speed, still not enough for a nerf

    • @Islamic_vibes21
      @Islamic_vibes21 2 роки тому +1

      Shut up she is balanced

    • @youdontbelonghere07
      @youdontbelonghere07 2 роки тому +2

      Definitely Yes 👍

    • @kaisark4332
      @kaisark4332 2 роки тому +2

      Psy

    • @leviathan-c2i
      @leviathan-c2i 2 роки тому +9

      yes attack speed sniper can melt tanks & 2 hit squishy

    • @hirosan8349
      @hirosan8349 2 роки тому +6

      Well yeah but they have already been nerfing her for quite some time now so it's kinda difficult for them to find out what to do with her they just can't make her useless but bcoz of her 4 weapons she just seems to be still too strong with every nerf

  • @eamyyyazzi617
    @eamyyyazzi617 2 роки тому +135

    I think they bring back the pre-meta beatrix (smg and grenade launcher combo for fast clearing and safe distances on clashes)

    • @shedoatsucuru256
      @shedoatsucuru256 2 роки тому +2

      I am agree with you

    • @knightla1126
      @knightla1126 2 роки тому +16

      I feel like sniper deserved zero buffs it was already broken, but I'm happy to see the rocket launcher getting some attention

    • @SpirantLank.
      @SpirantLank. 2 роки тому +1

      True

    • @Jakebored000
      @Jakebored000 2 роки тому +1

      Yess

  • @yourrandomplayer3661
    @yourrandomplayer3661 2 роки тому +34

    Moonton logic.
    Beatrix - receive some nerfs but with some buffs to make it balanced
    Nana - received some nerfs and buffs to balance it a bit and then nerf the buffs afterwards.

    • @kimciocson4262
      @kimciocson4262 2 роки тому +4

      Natalia - Received a huge buff with a little bit of nerf, but anyways we will literally remove the effectiveness of her invisibility.

    • @kuanishbaydjumamuratov2501
      @kuanishbaydjumamuratov2501 2 роки тому +2

      Rafaela got nerfed but no buff to make her balanced. Really Moonton's logic of beloved children.

    • @Zero10945
      @Zero10945 2 роки тому +1

      Faramis before revamp- receive nerf,just that

    • @gaminbros316
      @gaminbros316 2 роки тому

      I get the nana is pretty powerful rn but still she's a vulnerable mage so I don't think the nerfs are justified

  • @mew4396
    @mew4396 2 роки тому +34

    As an ambush beatrix, i see this an absolute win. Never expected to oneshot anyone nor auto aim them

    • @crashbandicoot430
      @crashbandicoot430 2 роки тому +1

      You mean campin beatrix? You do realise in higher ranks, ppl are more aware of campers.

    • @mew4396
      @mew4396 2 роки тому

      @@crashbandicoot430 i do. I'm not too stupid to sit in one actual place and wait in the expected places.

    • @crashbandicoot430
      @crashbandicoot430 2 роки тому

      @@mew4396 So what do you do in teamfights when you cant hide in a bush?

    • @mew4396
      @mew4396 2 роки тому +1

      @@crashbandicoot430 that's simple. Position yourself to their backline. It's often that your allies can't be near you in teamfights so yeah defense is also an offence for a mm

    • @junkyyard2273
      @junkyyard2273 2 роки тому

      @@crashbandicoot430
      You mean you realize that Beatrix's strength isn't *just* from camping?
      Her shotgun neutralizes close combaters, her sniper pokes with Hell's wrath, her SMG is just painful early game. At least her rocket's not that useful aside form ult.
      Being an ambusher doesn't just mean camping bro

  • @FernandoJCruz-kt1zo
    @FernandoJCruz-kt1zo 2 роки тому +27

    imagine being esmeralda and happilly roaming around the map in the late game, just checking bushes but then you blink and you are respawning, you are struggling to see what happened, then you see a "good game" from the enemy beatrix.

  • @Gian872
    @Gian872 2 роки тому +182

    They just have to make it so she would become slower when reloading and her reloading taking longer. A nerf on her shotgun would be to give her 2 additional ammo and flatten her shotgun dmg across those 4 shots so she would have to shoot twice on the basic atk then ult to get a kill. For her sniper, the basic attack should have the mechanic of the ult but without long range, then her ult would be like her ult now but instantaneously and deal more damage the farther they are. Also, her ult skills should empty her magazine, even granger has reload his guns after every attack skill. And her bazooka needs a buff

    • @helpme2401
      @helpme2401 2 роки тому +35

      I think spreading the damage on her shotgun across 4 shots is unreasonable. It's main point is sacrificing range for burst, take away that burst is all you get is a shotgun that spews out cotton balls with the range of an arm's length.

    • @helpme2401
      @helpme2401 2 роки тому

      Personally, I think it only needs number adjustments.

    • @CherrySmug
      @CherrySmug 2 роки тому +5

      as tank user shotgun just delete that thing on her that fucking stupid 3 hit and rip myself.

    • @kamidesuka
      @kamidesuka 2 роки тому

      yeah, that’s plausible but we can also just nerf her durability to hell

    • @Cleffr
      @Cleffr 2 роки тому +1

      this nerf was in the patch notes, but wasn't mentioned by Elgin I think.
      [Basic Attacks]
      All weapons now have a lower base attack speed and reload speed, but these properties will now scale with attack speed better.

  • @bitbybot3
    @bitbybot3 2 роки тому +143

    Betrix damage was so broken that noone was asking if she would be nerfed , but everyone was asking "when ?" XD

    • @mcgcast
      @mcgcast 2 роки тому +22

      People knew they were gonna get nerfed but the team took too long that the Genshin players decided to spread a similar joke to here lol.

    • @RobloxTroller609
      @RobloxTroller609 2 роки тому

      @@mcgcast what the genshin joke?

    • @mcgcast
      @mcgcast 2 роки тому +1

      @@RobloxTroller609 A sort of joke when people were waiting for Kazuha or any other characters they wanted to pull for in the future. It would be like "Kazuha rerun when?" or "Hu Tao rerun when?" I wouldn't necessarily call it a complete joke but what else would I call it? XD.

  • @ryomenn_s
    @ryomenn_s 2 роки тому +4

    "Enjoy your last meal"
    -Alucer

  • @hendrixignacio
    @hendrixignacio 2 роки тому +57

    'Beatrix nerf is FINALLY here'
    Even Elgin is waiting for this xD

  • @fluxhydra
    @fluxhydra 2 роки тому +14

    As a tank user, I’m scared of Beatrix. Generally we can hold the line for 10s ish vs regular marksman, however I will melt against Beatrix cause of her absurd sniper/shotgun damage. Just imagine a tank with 200+ physical defense getting 3k damage from her sniper shots every time. That’s why I always ban her whenever I get the chance. All her damage output should be lowered by 50% and we’ll call it balanced - feels bad for all these squishy heroes that get one shotted, even regular marksman with critical build takes longer time to kill mages/mm/assassins.

    • @hazieee.826
      @hazieee.826 2 роки тому +1

      50% is a bit too much she'll be useless plus it's really hard to snipe with Bea

    • @fluxhydra
      @fluxhydra 2 роки тому +2

      @@hazieee.826 If that won’t work then can you suggest something that can reduce Beatrix’s popularity in Mythic 400+ rank down from 7% to just 1-2%? All in all penetration build for Beatrix is really good. The only marksman which can work well with the same penetration build is Lesley, though she won’t get the benefit of extra damage vs heroes with 75 physical defense or lower aka squishy heroes. Moonton should really give a chance to other marksman heroes cause Beatrix is too strong in laning phase, durability, escape, team fight and ambushes. She’s also the only marksman that defies the nature of ranged heroes cause of her shotgun, generally marksmen run away from melee heroes but not Beatrix, she instead melt them with ease. Damage scaling for her sniper and shotgun MUST be adjusted. Removing her shotgun is a great idea by the way. Basically speaking, versatility should come with obvious weaknesses in certain areas, be it items or perhaps battle mechanics - something that even I don’t know as a tank user cause getting too close can mean death to us.

  • @MrSadDog9
    @MrSadDog9 2 роки тому +32

    What we've all been waiting for and been asking for finally is here

  • @chhunvannakrath5848
    @chhunvannakrath5848 2 роки тому +59

    This seems more like a buff than a Nerf considering all the increase damage

    • @delusionofillusion473
      @delusionofillusion473 2 роки тому

      increase or huge decrease

    • @its_ed
      @its_ed 2 роки тому +21

      They literally just transferred the damage to Nibiru, WTF were they thinking?

    • @mapbot4264
      @mapbot4264 2 роки тому +37

      @@its_ed they lessen her ambush but made her reap stronger 😃😃

    • @its_ed
      @its_ed 2 роки тому

      @@LRSGamingYT because you can literally outrun beatrix, no squishy hero can fucking outrun that bitch

    • @its_ed
      @its_ed 2 роки тому +19

      @@mapbot4264 they just fucking adjusted her to make her other weapons even more OP

  • @chrisfromph
    @chrisfromph 2 роки тому +12

    This is not enough, I don't know how Moonton looks at things like this, but you see MM in general specializes in powerful long range basic attacks, while maintaining a safe distance from their targets, meanwhile Beatrix here flickering in front of enemies for a quick kill. The problem is her kit is just overpowered. I suggest just lowering her 1 shot potential for more counterplay, because currently in game, even if she's behind in gold, she can still 1shot you

    • @vinzerueda9471
      @vinzerueda9471 2 роки тому +1

      if u nerf beatrix so much, who would still use her xD, gonna end up like harith tbh, nerf=not usable

  • @kayleramirez343
    @kayleramirez343 2 роки тому +4

    Well most players wouldnt care for the shotgun being smaller hitbox since most of them hide in a fking bush

    • @cond3mned_24
      @cond3mned_24 2 роки тому

      i'm sick of those fking campers

  • @alanwilliamduarte5617
    @alanwilliamduarte5617 2 роки тому +14

    i don't undertand. Now with shotgun beatrix will deal EVEN MORE damage if it ambushes someone on the bush.
    Almost all soldiers has to stay preeetty close to her to deal damage, and now mages/assassins will die even quicker

    • @kaisark4332
      @kaisark4332 2 роки тому +1

      Do u have a tank to check bushes?

    • @kaisark4332
      @kaisark4332 2 роки тому

      Do u have a tank to check bushes?

    • @KanhaiyaUltimatum
      @KanhaiyaUltimatum 2 роки тому +6

      @@kaisark4332 ML has no tank users and ML system to appreciate tanks are shitty.

  • @Yoriichi_Sengoku
    @Yoriichi_Sengoku 2 роки тому +14

    Renner and whesker nerf- almost everybody asked for
    Nibiru and Bennet buff- nobody asked for, but they don't know how devastating these are. Nibiru equipped with demon hunter sword is already dangerous.

    • @taher9358
      @taher9358 2 роки тому +4

      Easier to counter it than sniper and shotgun. Just buy blade armour

  • @yowyeah1239
    @yowyeah1239 2 роки тому +9

    I think it is pretty reasonable the only thing I noticed to the bea users is they don't use the bazooka. So I think it needs some improvements and buffs in that weapon of hers. Maybe, faster landing and more slow will be enough.

  • @lumiii1171
    @lumiii1171 2 роки тому +142

    Beatrix really is one of Moonton's favorite children. A "nerf" makes her stronger and gives her more advantages

    • @rogtwist1089
      @rogtwist1089 2 роки тому +22

      For sniper and shotgun users on bea it s really a netf. I prefer to call it an adjustment cause the minigun and rocket launcher are getting buff so i guess the meta with golden staff from 1 year ago it s coming again

    • @iamn3954
      @iamn3954 2 роки тому +19

      They obviously dont want her to get out of the meta, she'll be having 2 expensive skins soon and then they might Nerf her to the ground

    • @liaselleaeri
      @liaselleaeri 2 роки тому +6

      Harith and Chou: sana all 🥲

    • @-1081
      @-1081 2 роки тому +1

      @@iamn3954 "might" is the key word here. Never have I seen an OP hero avoiding hard nerfs for this long other than Valentina. Atleast for Wanwan's case, Moonton buffed her extremely good since her kit during release were, although not terrible, not that broken as well.
      And plus, Moonton was fine nerfing heroes even before their expensive skins were released.

    • @chicken4699
      @chicken4699 2 роки тому +4

      @@liaselleaeri chou was once favorite of moonton i guess that its over favorite that it has unli passive and dash and immunity

  • @scream8061
    @scream8061 2 роки тому +70

    this isn't really nerf at all, they made her stronger in the early game which is the most crucial part of the games

    • @Gru__
      @Gru__ 2 роки тому

      Yes

    • @tatakaetatakae3358
      @tatakaetatakae3358 2 роки тому +9

      Nah ur wrong, yes shes strong in the early game now but the problem was that she was broken in the late game, one shotting tanks is not the way to go in mobas.
      Bcoz of her one shot skills she was too hard to kill in the late game leading to many undeserved clutches by Beatrix spammers.
      In the previous Beatrix if u want to mark her late the trade had to be 3-1 atleast in enemy's favour coz she would take down two with no efforts.
      Early game matters but not as much. What really matters is that all heroes should be balanced and the old Beatrix was wayy too unbalanced.

    • @mikhail8318
      @mikhail8318 2 роки тому +1

      @@tatakaetatakae3358 yeah even I build full armor at late game it's still useless lol 🤣

    • @dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344
      @dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344 2 роки тому +1

      Nah she is still going to be weaker than some other marksmen early game like Irithel clint natan etc

    • @bbssddww_fet
      @bbssddww_fet 2 роки тому +1

      Her laning against Popol, Clint, Brody and every mm that uses inspire is weak lol, I'm a Bea main btw.

  • @colee8195
    @colee8195 2 роки тому +7

    Moonton wouldn't even notice her if she was not played on mpl

  • @davidsmelo
    @davidsmelo 2 роки тому +45

    I wold like to see the sniper damage on turrets without minions, since when you're defending it's really hard to keep your inhibitors because she just can take it down by hitting it from outside the turret range

    • @dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344
      @dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344 2 роки тому +2

      Thats going to be the same man
      Even layla has that ability uts hard to counter and frustrating

    • @davidsmelo
      @davidsmelo 2 роки тому +4

      And they both deals very little dmg, Clint has to use his skills, would could cripple him down on a team fight, and Layla dmg to towers it's pretty shitty

    • @moonbellebelle4523
      @moonbellebelle4523 2 роки тому +21

      @kraitos brownsw lol, you dare to compare Layla which has no dashing skills?. And her long range is her passive and then you people would like to think that it's ok for a highly burst marksman that basically one hitting all markmans and can 4 shots a tank in game to hit the tower outside its range without minion?. She is no way balance.

    • @ahmadhamidi5560
      @ahmadhamidi5560 2 роки тому

      @kraitos brownsw layla doestn have escape skills tho. and layla can only poke tower from outside range at level 12. beatrix can do it at level 1. and you cant body block her sniper shots too else both your tower and you is gonna get cucked

    • @miggy4667
      @miggy4667 2 роки тому

      There are more heroes can do that tho. Clint, Layla, Kimmy, Lesley, Popol, and Beatrix. It is just that Beatrix is widely use so she is the one got the attention. 😂

  • @lesleyguevarra5374
    @lesleyguevarra5374 2 роки тому +11

    This adjustment makes her a monster in the early but falls off the late game I get it

    • @frostycyan
      @frostycyan 2 роки тому +3

      Back to early beatrix

    • @lesleyguevarra5374
      @lesleyguevarra5374 2 роки тому +2

      @@frostycyan ye

    • @dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344
      @dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344 2 роки тому +3

      Nah nowhere near to her previous early game she will be strong but ntg like monster because of reloading speed nerfs
      Just get inspire and use the delay to kill her

    • @yoimama9603
      @yoimama9603 2 роки тому +1

      Can now be easily countered by blade armor + belerick can be quite useful to countering her. Shotgun/sniper bea is pure toxicity which can't be counter by any armor.

    • @lesleyguevarra5374
      @lesleyguevarra5374 2 роки тому

      Ok dimple, yoimama
      You have a point

  • @panamex5703
    @panamex5703 2 роки тому +4

    The physical attack percentage still too much for a "basic attack"

  • @rorro23tk
    @rorro23tk 2 роки тому +4

    Everytime I used Beatrix like a couple of months ago before her "nerf damage" (brutal late game damage lol) I usually bought golden staff + dhs. I felt even better than Karrie and Lunox together xD. Now I think these 2 items will be meta for Beatrix if this nerf gets official
    PS: Although she still deserves a nerf on her shotgun damage (Albert Wesker 😂). I know she gets too prone to CC and burst physical/magic damage when approaching to enemy or flanked out but the damage is *absolutely nutty* and that's why Beatrix *can't* deal critical damage, otherwise she would be the most broken hero to ever be created on a moba game

    • @cond3mned_24
      @cond3mned_24 2 роки тому

      to be honest if i see a beatrix with shotgun i have no choice but to TANK my build
      i hope that maybe things would go so smoothly after this adjustment
      and yes you a RE Fan

    • @rorro23tk
      @rorro23tk 2 роки тому +1

      @@cond3mned_24 Yeah, although maybe becoming a Beatrix main can be good or at least if you have a friend that is marksman player then you're going to win a lot of games. I love golden staff because Beatrix's shotgun and pistols trigger more than 2 basic attack's effects so it's even better than Karrie for one shot any hero or even tanks. Blade of heptaseas only work good for single basic attack effect like Bennet and Renner as they have higher burst damage (%) compared to the other guns
      PS: By saying RE fan did you refer to Resident Evil?

  • @bestdadoftheyear7181
    @bestdadoftheyear7181 2 роки тому +2

    Even as a tank her shotgun and sniper shreds through the defense and hp

  • @deyu8912
    @deyu8912 2 роки тому +3

    This nerf won't stop shotgun abuser therefore BEAPHOBIA will still be a thing

  • @Chris.4291
    @Chris.4291 2 роки тому +6

    That's not even a decent nerf💀she still be good af

  • @jpm8027
    @jpm8027 2 роки тому +7

    first and i think the sniper ult nerf will be pretty bad for lord stealing and i think they are trying to make her a dps instead of a one shotter

    • @delusionofillusion473
      @delusionofillusion473 2 роки тому

      currently she is more like an ad mage than an adc

    • @yushi6614
      @yushi6614 2 роки тому

      Yup and it's fair since she can't one shot anyone anymore and you can just build blade armor to counter her like other dps mm

  • @peterparkerakaspider
    @peterparkerakaspider 2 роки тому +4

    Every mythic + uses Beatrix or Wan Wan. While some in legend uses Moskov. It's like bringing a spear to a gun fight.

  • @SpirantLank.
    @SpirantLank. 2 роки тому +4

    I'm still angry about the fact that she can still hit you with her sniper rifle even tho you're behind a minion

  • @SinSpecter
    @SinSpecter 2 роки тому +1

    A former Beatrix main: Oh no!... anyway.
    I am now doing papa Freddie and some others

  • @iskabu
    @iskabu 2 роки тому +25

    This was a good adjustment or nerf but i think they should lessen more of her damage, she can basically kill the enemy the same but only with slight adjustments. Nerf her more MOONTON!!!!

    • @starryskyhighway9628
      @starryskyhighway9628 2 роки тому

      no...her dmg is fine it just her utility...even moskov inspire can burst someone in less than 1 second

    • @iskabu
      @iskabu 2 роки тому +2

      @@starryskyhighway9628 kaya nga may tawag na nerf eh next target naman moonton moskov.

    • @NEROARCHER
      @NEROARCHER 2 роки тому +1

      Nerf your mom instead dog

    • @ferine9053
      @ferine9053 2 роки тому +1

      nerf her to the ground mooton hahahahahaha

    • @SMHBruh
      @SMHBruh 2 роки тому

      people fr complaining about Beatrix damage when moskov is no different...

  • @potential4ever
    @potential4ever 2 роки тому +2

    Hanabi revamped: my time for spotlight

  • @nuclearfallenking1920
    @nuclearfallenking1920 2 роки тому +12

    I'm so bad at playing op heroes

  • @rensha23ju
    @rensha23ju 2 роки тому +1

    This is more like an adjustment rather than nerf

  • @erikthorvaldsson8755
    @erikthorvaldsson8755 2 роки тому +14

    No its not enough. She deserves another 39 series of nerfs at least.

    • @samuisworld7716
      @samuisworld7716 2 роки тому +4

      Yes. 100%.

    • @KkK-vz1rg
      @KkK-vz1rg 2 роки тому

      Not really

    • @yesmineits10inches
      @yesmineits10inches Рік тому

      Make it deal 0 damate

    • @erikthorvaldsson8755
      @erikthorvaldsson8755 Рік тому

      @@yesmineits10inches Hey after all of the nerfs, with full physical defense items, only athena shield ( i was fredrinn) she dealt over 9.5 k damage when she killed me. Thats supposed to be balanced hero ? Imagine fighter or mage dealing as high damage as her. They would be nerfed with the speed of light. Also they are talking about wanwan nerfs, and how they will ruin hero blabla,. yea screw that she will also sit in ban section forever.

  • @Smuel511
    @Smuel511 2 роки тому +3

    Bruh they are nerfing Beatrix to the ground

    • @delusionofillusion473
      @delusionofillusion473 2 роки тому +1

      she is so overtuned that she wont go below s tier

    • @junkyyard2273
      @junkyyard2273 2 роки тому

      And that is needed. Do you want to keep her in the ban section?

  • @xavierscurse7797
    @xavierscurse7797 2 роки тому +4

    And what about her tower dmg? Wesker 3shot base. Sniper pushes towers without minions . Y not they remove that. If u wanna balance her, nerf all her gun dmg and reduce need backup cd so that she has to switch between guns to deal the whole dmg.

  • @theodorebajo3355
    @theodorebajo3355 2 роки тому +2

    look how they tortured my baby

  • @CyarentJN
    @CyarentJN 2 роки тому +4

    That looks like a buff lmao her damage on nibiru r not balance with new ult and sniper is just a buff for those who spam it and no brainer also her shotgun doesn't effect her /: cuz u need to get close to have the one shot one combo so yeah i can consider these a buff except the sniper kinda

  • @crimsonking1133
    @crimsonking1133 2 роки тому +1

    I just fought against a really good Beatrix player a few hours ago in a rank game. She isn't as painful as before but she can quickly compensate by having a tank helping her. 2 frontline heroes protecting her made her even more effective. We got lucky during that game and fortunately won.

  • @ceae69
    @ceae69 2 роки тому +3

    the problem with her is the lack of item that can counter her, unlike any other crit mm that can be countered by blade armor, or burst skill reliant heroes like saber who csn be easily countered with antique, there's no real counter against beatrix

  • @IAmJadedJM
    @IAmJadedJM 2 роки тому +1

    You see, they don't have to do all of this except fixing the Shotgun dmg bug that they stated. That's THE problem.

  • @lonl5051
    @lonl5051 2 роки тому +3

    This is not a nerf, more like adjustment, but I like it. Now it separates good and bad Beatrix players. The only thing is the sniper, I think the sniper should remain the damage and nerf the hit box, so it only suit for players who can actually aim.

  • @Sparky--__--
    @Sparky--__-- 2 роки тому +1

    As a beatrix main
    I'm crying out here
    Everting is good except the longer burst time on nibiru
    And the shotgun range thing

  • @kprogatons
    @kprogatons 2 роки тому +3

    Elgin: Do you agree with her nerfs?
    Yin users after receiving a nerf on his Ultimate: I won but at what cost?

    • @riiial9
      @riiial9 2 роки тому

      Julian after receiving many life steal nerf:'EVERYTHING'

  • @bruhment82
    @bruhment82 2 роки тому

    Beatrix's 3 guns: 😁😁😊😊
    Her bazooka: 😔

  • @AveryEizen
    @AveryEizen 2 роки тому +6

    I think this is definitely fair,I’ve trolled the enemy quite a few times in classic using “beaphobia” (the enemies were just laughing it off)
    Wesker is definitely too strong right now,especially late game since while your team’s taking the lord you can just camp in a bush and wait for enemies to come try steal,the nibiru adjustment is pretty decent since the burst damage is already quite powerful but adjusting the shots make it quite balanced in my opinion.
    On renner I’d say it’s a fair adjustment,the damage nerf was good and wider hitbox makes it easier to use.
    Bennet’s buff I’d say is good since out of the four it was definitely the least used.

  • @tearalte1883
    @tearalte1883 2 роки тому +2

    Marksman : We need atk spd.. more crit.. more dd to be good for the team
    Beatrix: 2 items plus sniper ......ok im full build

  • @ProdetteGaming
    @ProdetteGaming 2 роки тому +9

    Beatrix is ​​a hero that I considered to be balanced, many marksmen can fight against her without much disadvantage, like all heroes, they will have their pros and cons, but I consider this nerf very unnecessary, considering that there are currently heroes that literally kill you. they can kill without using their three skills and with 320 MS connection, bad decision Moonton 👎🤨
    Pd.: since I have so many likes, stop by my channel to check my content if you like Odette content, sorry for the spam, I have to take advantage of my minute of fame hahaha 🤣🤣

    • @jpm8027
      @jpm8027 2 роки тому

      for me the shotgun nerf wasnt that bad mostly because i always hide in a bush when using shotgun

    • @delusionofillusion473
      @delusionofillusion473 2 роки тому +2

      nope this nerf was needed , and she is a lane bully and she can kill you without 3 skills too , it was a good decision as she was outperforming many mm early to late

    • @jpm8027
      @jpm8027 2 роки тому +1

      @@delusionofillusion473 yeah i can agree cause when she gets lvl 4 if you are almost to half health she can just shotgun plus flicker

    • @zackzoom8779
      @zackzoom8779 2 роки тому +1

      she still has 4 Ults available to poke enemy

    • @ProdetteGaming
      @ProdetteGaming 2 роки тому +1

      @@delusionofillusion473 Correction, she was beating a lot of fools with the role of Marksman in lane, as you can see I am main Odette, main magicians in general, and of all the times that I had to go Marksman and I was against a Beatrix thank God for being so, because she is a very easy hero to defeat

  • @mlgguides175
    @mlgguides175 2 роки тому +1

    No one talks about moskove which doesn't need any skill to destroy anyone and he is not getting any adjustments

    • @vulcan9269
      @vulcan9269 2 роки тому

      Didn't he get nerf already in the last advance server patch?

    • @mlgguides175
      @mlgguides175 2 роки тому

      @@vulcan9269 bruh 1.75 to 1.55 you called that a nerf funny

    • @Name-gg1li
      @Name-gg1li 2 роки тому

      Moskov is not the issue, inspire is.

    • @mlgguides175
      @mlgguides175 2 роки тому

      @@Name-gg1li moskove benefits from it the most while other basic attack heros doesn't so the heros need adjustment not the item

    • @Name-gg1li
      @Name-gg1li 2 роки тому

      @@mlgguides175 any mm can benifit from it but if you want to nerf moskov I guess a damage fall off for how many enemies he hit from the back (this may be a bad nerf since this will give moskov a harder time clearing)

  • @Kyugired
    @Kyugired 2 роки тому +7

    This was a Great adjustment though, it's not enough yet, to be implemented in the official server.
    *(Because people would still complain)*
    I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND these 2 adjustments that I'm about to say:
    *1: Adding a 1-1.2 second Delay (like Kadita and Vale)*
    *and Make it CANCELLABLE by using CC effects(like Tigreal's Ult)*
    *LASTLY, adding Effect/skill Range INDICATOR(like Mathilda's skill 1) to the Shotgun Ultimate.*
    *If they try implementing this, it will not Reduce the Shotgun's Damage, BUT It would Give Enemies more time to React to Try and DODGE or Cancel the skill using CC.*
    *2: Making her Sniper scale with both Distance and Lost HP percentage , It's like Layla's Ultimate and Passive, merged with Granger, Lesley, Brody, etc... 's Lost Hp Damage scaling(Using this in close range and High Hp enemies would make her deal around 10% of it's supposed Damage)*
    *This would make her Ult' s Damage Lower if you don't use it for Low Hp Enemies(thus being balanced).*
    About the 2 other guns, I think they're quite balanced right now, with some few tweakings needed for Bennet(Rocket Launcher) because it's still Slow and Easy to dodge, but the damage part is Okay already.
    *Disclaimer, this is just my Personal Opinion about this Adjustment, I'm not forcing anyone to like or dislike anything.*

  • @laurencedullon1550
    @laurencedullon1550 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with this... You know even moonton nerf her 1 milion times . She stilll a good marksman because of her Kit..

  • @okok-ky4in
    @okok-ky4in 2 роки тому +3

    Yes she deserves it she too powerful on shotty mode

  • @doubled6995
    @doubled6995 2 роки тому

    The nerf is far from enough, she needs more adjustment:
    -Movement speed: 257 > 245
    -Base HP: Reduce by 150
    -Base Physical Defense: 20 > 15
    Nibiru: Basic attack effect rate must be reduced to 15%. Demon Hunter Sword makes it too deadly
    Bennett: Increase shoot speed by 20% and area by 10% and remove warning spot from both attack and ultimate. The buff is not even enough and still inferior to other guns.
    Wesker: Increase ultimate channel time by 0.5 seconds and disable use of battle spells during the cast and greatly increase ultimate fan area but reduce width of each shot. Attack-ult-attack combo will still work. Reduce bullets to 4.
    Renner: Increase ultimate swinging speed making it very hard to hit.
    Skill 1: Increase cooldown by 2 seconds all levels and disable her from moving while casting
    Skill 2: Increase late level cooldown by 4 seconds but causes her 1st successful hit on attack to have more lifesteal
    Ultimate: Adjust cooldown of all ultimate to 36-28 and shares of cooldown state. Prevents the use of 2 ultimates through swapping guns.
    Need Backup: Only works until 1:00 mark through leaving combat for 5 seconds. Usable only while dead after 1:00 until end of the game. Makes sure she is super difficult to use by forcing a gamble to the user making sure the right guns at a specific situation is ready and preventing from using Bennett when the game suddenly goes in a losing game while alive.

  • @SoojinSeooo
    @SoojinSeooo 2 роки тому +6

    I kind of wish they make her a weak early game marksman,,, coz thats how its supposed to be,,,, then she powerspikes in mid game and accelerates fast to late game. Thats how she can become balance. Its alright to oneshot in lategame

    • @harinchetan4701
      @harinchetan4701 2 роки тому

      This is moonton we taking about they don’t balance crap until the hero becomes nearly unusable in higher play

    • @omeganoelf.6173
      @omeganoelf.6173 2 роки тому

      it's good enough though to have a variety of gameplay for gold laners. like if your team is compatible for early then you choose a mm that is good in early and if your team is good for late then you choose a late game mm

  • @xxcutepupperxx
    @xxcutepupperxx 2 роки тому +1

    fricking finally i hate when beatrix is literally SO FAR AWAY FROM ME and she spray's me with her shotgun ult and 5 manages to hit me 💀

  • @romatawazu8038
    @romatawazu8038 2 роки тому +7

    Despite this so called "nerf" i think she will still dominate the game just like before. I can hardly say that this is a nerf.

  • @justabullyforfun7104
    @justabullyforfun7104 2 роки тому +1

    I remembered killing a bea with only vengeance, blade armor and antique armor from her shotgun, I didn't even know how I killed in-game until I replayed it. She died frm her own shotgun💀

  • @bitbybot3
    @bitbybot3 2 роки тому +3

    I hope to stop seeing the "shotgun and camp the bush" jutsu from now on xd

    • @jhoplays9154
      @jhoplays9154 2 роки тому +1

      that fucking flicker plus shotgun surprises my kagura
      no time to react at all

  • @tatakaetatakae3358
    @tatakaetatakae3358 2 роки тому

    "And those are all the ""adjustments"" on Beatrix " lmao

  • @rubilynclamotcha5104
    @rubilynclamotcha5104 2 роки тому +3

    Finally a nerf

  • @antihero8214
    @antihero8214 2 роки тому +2

    if they really wanna nerf her, just make her walk slower with her sniper and shotgun. 👍
    oh and shorten the distance for her dash when using them too.

  • @naitzirhc.2687
    @naitzirhc.2687 2 роки тому +4

    Yes finally! Most mms are left behind, they do deserve more attention so i hope moneyton buffs them.
    I really hate playing against a good Beatrix user tho

    • @jpm8027
      @jpm8027 2 роки тому +2

      its always pretty hard trying to win against a bea cause she can burst you to the moon and she also has lord stealing capabilities and has powerful wave clear

    • @naitzirhc.2687
      @naitzirhc.2687 2 роки тому

      @@jpm8027 annoying asf

  • @sumitradas8484
    @sumitradas8484 2 роки тому +2

    The original aim of the developers is to make players use the sub machine and the rocket launcher more often and to mare players less dependent on the other two. They want her each weapon get equal spotlight by players

  • @ethansonajo2006
    @ethansonajo2006 2 роки тому +6

    I’m gonna feel bad for Oheb tho, but I’m sure he can still play Beatrix even if it’s Nerfed.

    • @ninojamesgermones8808
      @ninojamesgermones8808 2 роки тому

      Yes, thats truee

    • @Klick27
      @Klick27 2 роки тому +3

      What do u mean feel bad?!
      For spamming an overpowered hero?

    • @Klick27
      @Klick27 2 роки тому

      @MLBB Tips and Tricks exactly... Feel bad for oheb?!
      Pathetic

    • @liquidfire21
      @liquidfire21 2 роки тому

      @MLBB Tips and Tricks You don't know what's balanced

    • @CherrySmug
      @CherrySmug 2 роки тому

      @MLBB Tips and Tricks true she balance literary kill tank with 2 to 3 shot in fucking early mid to late game bruhh.
      yeah she not to op yet not balance to.

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    @Roy-Editor 2 роки тому +2

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  • @aisuhd
    @aisuhd 2 роки тому +2

    Is bea really nerfed? Or did they just make her more balanced but still wants her to still be top tier mm

  • @redd1736
    @redd1736 2 роки тому +1

    With a weapon that can kill minion easily than any maksmans, can use ultimate "two time" when changes a weapon..she still can one shot any squisy heroes because of her range/blink and her damage still strong. This nerf is not enough

  • @lunox-eyesofeternity5958
    @lunox-eyesofeternity5958 2 роки тому +5

    Finally Beatrix nerf. She's been dominating for months

  • @imranhaziq19
    @imranhaziq19 2 роки тому +1

    She cannot just outshine lesley buff in sniper region, that's why it was nerfed

  • @crazybug112
    @crazybug112 2 роки тому +1

    Nerfed to the ground just like Harith back in the day

  • @tobias7923
    @tobias7923 2 роки тому +1

    Idc what kind of nerf they gonna give her, imma still ban her as long as she have the ability to one shot someone easily.

  • @Shawntot
    @Shawntot 2 роки тому +1

    Who's idea was it to create beatrix in the first place anyway??
    Her damage is insane!!!

  • @BlazeDGreat
    @BlazeDGreat 2 роки тому +2

    As an aldous main she deserves to be nerfed, her sniper is literally Stronger than a 500 stack aldous with malefic roar

  • @ehriqaguilar872
    @ehriqaguilar872 2 роки тому

    beatrix user wont be affected because in the shotgun there are high chance for the bullets to not hit the enemey and in the submachine gun ult bea users always cancel it when the enemy is running away

  • @I_UwU_to_Trigger_Edgy_Idiots
    @I_UwU_to_Trigger_Edgy_Idiots 2 роки тому +2

    We need more nerfs, *NERFS*
    This hero is an insult towards the heroes that were nerfed to the ground and became useless
    I can't count how many enemy comebacks and one sided matches I suffered against this hero

  • @batuu5166
    @batuu5166 2 роки тому +1

    Well, every beatrix main knew this was coming. I have no clue why this took so long for moonton maybe developers have a secret crush on her?
    Whelp I'm a beat main with 500 matches 67WR i had my most absurd matches with her and more than 20 pentas im not that sad tho cuz this nerf might help me to try other heroes, to be honest after i started to get very good with her whenever i tried to play something else they just feel much much weaker. She is broken cause she can hit hard she can hit far she can one shot close range she can secure she can kill heroes trying to chase she can literally melt every hero exept enemy tank or tanky exp at level 4.
    Most of the times i played with her people could not think the amount of damage she can deal in the matter of seconds i've been acused cheating many times. I even started to play her with petrify just like the gusion players it was very unexpected at mythic and worked well :)
    With the new amblem system she is going to get powerfull might be stronger than her state right now, while the testing i had one of my alt accounts in beta and i tried to get the max physical pen. the result was insanely ridiclous to the point of one hitting zero armour wanwan with reener(sniper) at the end of the day we wont be 2 hitting mages with the sniper anymore, or cant take out the enemy base with 3 shotgun shots (btw this is not exaggerating i was able to end many games like this totally unexpected). While i'm going to miss the very broken days, she still going to be quite powerfull with the new system and because the totally broken fact that she can use 2 ults in like 6 seconds. Thank you for reading lol

  • @chocho6766
    @chocho6766 2 роки тому

    they should just increase the dificulty like more thinner sniper hitbox , closer shotgun range and increease the reload time , but increase the damge , so she will be more high risk high reward

  • @Yuki-qv4fi
    @Yuki-qv4fi 2 роки тому +1

    she still got a buff shes soo fucking op she can one sht almost all squishy Heroes

  • @merthonyintacto5263
    @merthonyintacto5263 2 роки тому +1

    I wish this nerf makes most beatrix user less cocky,I experienced so many game loses because "some" Bea user is too full of themselves.
    Like charging alone with sniper🙄

  • @Nayalaya0
    @Nayalaya0 2 роки тому +1

    yeah moonton finally hear me she is too op in main hands .she was making cry to enemies

  • @bobtimothyclareza1587
    @bobtimothyclareza1587 2 роки тому +1

    Remember that one move from pokemon game where you take 99% of enemy's hp and leave them with 1 hp for higher catch rate?
    They should make it that if Bea's sniper damage get high enough to one shot enemies, her damage will instead be converted from physical dmg to max hp percentage dmg.
    Instead of one hit kill she will only take 90% of enemy's max hp, so that killing enemies will take two basic attack.

  • @Switzerland-.
    @Switzerland-. 2 роки тому +1

    no More Gelye Build One hit

  • @thirdjaruda4202
    @thirdjaruda4202 2 роки тому +1

    Players: nerf bea, she' OP
    Devs: you got a point, sure
    Management: but not too much so that they will buy her M4 skin.

  • @user-kq9xp9nh8z
    @user-kq9xp9nh8z 2 роки тому +1

    I saw that khufra get melted with sniper, how do you expect me to think she's balanced.
    Isn't she like ranged Aldous who has more dmg.

  • @josephwong5859
    @josephwong5859 2 роки тому +1

    Why you need lesley(a sniper only) when you can play beatrix.

  • @niconico9939
    @niconico9939 2 роки тому +1

    Give the shotgun 2 seconds reloading.

  • @PuffyAmiYumiMLBB
    @PuffyAmiYumiMLBB 2 роки тому

    Shotgun needs more closer to deal damage just like Gusion's daggers

  • @DrivenGrim
    @DrivenGrim 2 роки тому

    at least ppl will be able to hit more sniper shots like honestly. i was in a match with a beatrix that hit only 1 sniper shot. does anyone else have any beatrixs that played terribly?

  • @bigballballball
    @bigballballball 2 роки тому

    building a attack speed build for beatrix

  • @renzchristoffers.dimalanta9531
    @renzchristoffers.dimalanta9531 2 роки тому +1

    I think she really does deserve this
    I remember using tank and she killed me with like 2 to 3 hits with antique quirass and blade armor and even with dominance ice her penetration damage is so crazy
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  • @ZhongTzy
    @ZhongTzy 2 роки тому

    They must add a damage limitation on beatrix, 2500 max damage per shotgun hit is a must

  • @zeroml1990
    @zeroml1990 2 роки тому +1

    Nerf because she will still be op when the new talents come out

  • @jaypeadieL611
    @jaypeadieL611 2 роки тому

    They should just bring the old twilight armor passive where there is the damage cap. Atleast that would help bandage the shotgun wounds.

  • @zooroo300
    @zooroo300 2 роки тому +1

    Moonton doesn't want any onehit tiktok

  • @Music-xb3ny
    @Music-xb3ny 2 роки тому +1

    They will never nerf Beatrix until they milk the playerbase with skins. All of these "needs" are buffs or just simple adjustments that result in her being as broken as she always was