In general flashovers are a rapid but smooth ignition of the combustibles within a smoke column. Backdrafts are an explosive ignition of all combustibles at the same time. Flashovers generally "roll over" smoothly and linearly. Backdrafts generally exhaust and ignite explosively they look like a miniature nuke going off.
Todo bombero tiene que sentir la experiencia del un flashover y backdraft en los contenedores dispuestos para fuegos de interiores, un fuego real controlado que no olvidará
reading smoke is the best way to get alot of info from the fire behavior from the outside of the structure on size up, plus it can be read inside too. stay safe.
I'm a full-time Firefighter in Canada. The first 30 seconds is from the 1991 movie "Backdraft". The rest of the video is real footage. I've seen all of these clips in training videos. Flashovers happen more frequently than Backdrafts, but they can/do kill or badly burn Firefighters all over the world every year. The bunker gear FF's wear is not flame-proof and a flashover is VERY BAD NEWS.
I have never seen one of these before, but I know my husband has. His family was living in a double wide trailer on an acerage in Alberta. Everyone (mom, brother, my husband, and the mom's bf) all got paid the same day so they took their checks and went for dinner. They get back the place was on fire, but it was contained just to the inside. So my mother in law gets to the door and was about to open it when my hubby yelled at her not to. When the fire crews got there, one of them told her my hubby saved her life. As soon as they busted open the door there was a back draft or something.
@oohmydearcarolline So what would happen in an accelerant fire situation being suppressed with CO2 as with certified chemical storage depots? The CO2 pressure is high on the surface but vapors are sustaining combustion in higher ground. Would a backdraft still be probable after the fire was out and CO2 is exhausted but the temperatures are still high enough to cook off the vapors?
a back draft is when the fire is starved for oxgen, look at the smoke if its going out and in like a breath and u brake a window it will exploed, a flash of can be caused by braking the thermo layers of smoke mix the heated gas to mix the low more explove gas to the hotter on the stop lays the will roll like a wave over the top of u.
@oohmydearcarolline Well said, flashover is similar. Where a fire within a building or compartment is burning, the burnt gasses rise to the roof. These gasses are still combustible, and after a certain period of time, these gasses will get hot enough, and at the correct mixture to ignite. where the fire will then consume all the smoke at the roof and eat downward into the room.
where did you get the footage at 40 seconds,1:40, and 2:00? i have been looking for that documentary for ages. even if you just have the name of it, that would be so helpful
Not nowhere. The smoke was very heavy & pulsing out laterally. Not a good sign. The aerial truck was set up too close to the building although it was difficult to tell how much space was available. The aerial bucket was operating too close to the window openings. This why we have collapse zones & why many agencies use stream shapers to allow master stream operations from a greater distance & with better penetration.
Re: the video at 01:30, this was filmed in either 1981 or 1982 following the tragic Stardust disco fire in Artane, Dublin, where 48 young people lost their lives on 14th February 1981. This was a constructed mock up of the said premises, using the same seating (and materials) to investigate how the fire spread so fast, & how it was so deadly. I remember hearing that the gas being released off the seats before they ignited at 1:42 was cyanide gas (no joke). The images speak for themselves...
@se5tachi Hit the ceiling with a quick burst of water to cool things down, but not so much that you bring the superheated gases and steam from the ceiling down on top of you
As I'm from Germany, i don't know Rescue me, but I will change that :) I'm a firefighter, too, and I keep going mad when the guys take off their masks in burning obejects to talk to victims and all the other crazy stuff.
A Flashover is when everything in a certain area, say a room, reaches it's ignition point and simultaneously bursts into flames. Lotta Heat, Fire, Light, etc REEEAAAALLLLYYY quickly
RESCUE ME; a bit of a nutty show, but they do have some good interior firefighting scenes that portray, to a pretty good degree, what it's like in a fire. Most fires, however, produce almost zero visibility and that's what makes firefighting a very dangerous occupation. You can't see what you're up against until it's too late.
oui il y a une formation mais juste pour ce protégé donc on doit ce coucher au sol le binome contre le bat et mettre la lance vers le haut et mettre en maxi débit en jet de protection
Stopped video at the beginning. Music is WAY too loud; can't hear anything that is being said. Thumbs down!!! Why you UA-camrs feel you have to ruin a video with way too loud music, and often music that most people don't care for at all, is beyond me!
+baesex - Riiiiiggghhtt! And how does that help me to hear what the people are saying in the clip, you nit!? How does that help me to understand ANYTHING that the firemen or dispatch is saying on the video under all that loud ass music? Good piece, but it needs be much, much lower so we can all hear what is being said over the radios. How does turning off my sound help with that? You, sir/m'am are a moron!
@JDMC42 hha I am not even a firefighter and I would have not smashed the door open -- instead I might have sprayed water into the cracks at least... then again could the resulting steam create pressure and blow the door open...
Childish people playing with a situation they are not trying to control nor are they thinking of the responsibilities they have toward their families. Read my comment above.
Greg, are you in the Swedish Fire Service?? You wouldn't happen to live near Vallentuna and Stockholm would you?? My immediate and extended family are great friends with a family that live in Vallentuna and we really consider them family as well. My 4th brother actual worked in Stockholm for several years for one of the big US recording companies. Any way, liked video.........critiqued the shit out of it. But after well over 30 year in the Fire Service I've got a little experience under my belt. Stay safe brother.
We are not talking about death rates...there are far more firefighters that get injured horribly everyday, even though they may not die. They can break bones, burn their faces or extremities, Just because there is a low death rate does not mean the job is dangerous.
The recreation at 1:29 was carried out after 48 people died in the Stardust nightclub fire in Ireland back in the 80's. If watch the ashtray on the front table to combusts from the heat.
In general flashovers are a rapid but smooth ignition of the combustibles within a smoke column. Backdrafts are an explosive ignition of all combustibles at the same time. Flashovers generally "roll over" smoothly and linearly. Backdrafts generally exhaust and ignite explosively they look like a miniature nuke going off.
Todo bombero tiene que sentir la experiencia del un flashover y backdraft en los contenedores dispuestos para fuegos de interiores, un fuego real controlado que no olvidará
reading smoke is the best way to get alot of info from the fire behavior from the outside of the structure on size up, plus it can be read inside too. stay safe.
I watched this the other day for training its honestly old as hell but shows what firefighter could in counter in some fires
Especially if they don't apply water to the burning material or at least cool the ceiling gasses. You play with a fire and this is the result.
I'm a full-time Firefighter in Canada. The first 30 seconds is from the 1991 movie "Backdraft". The rest of the video is real footage. I've seen all of these clips in training videos.
Flashovers happen more frequently than Backdrafts, but they can/do kill or badly burn Firefighters all over the world every year.
The bunker gear FF's wear is not flame-proof and a flashover is VERY BAD NEWS.
techno music for the death fire
Pefect.
Thanks for this video. I use it during classes and it's a perfect example of fire behavior from several aspects.
Awesome video❤
I have never seen one of these before, but I know my husband has. His family was living in a double wide trailer on an acerage in Alberta. Everyone (mom, brother, my husband, and the mom's bf) all got paid the same day so they took their checks and went for dinner. They get back the place was on fire, but it was contained just to the inside. So my mother in law gets to the door and was about to open it when my hubby yelled at her not to. When the fire crews got there, one of them told her my hubby saved her life. As soon as they busted open the door there was a back draft or something.
@oohmydearcarolline So what would happen in an accelerant fire situation being suppressed with CO2 as with certified chemical storage depots? The CO2 pressure is high on the surface but vapors are sustaining combustion in higher ground. Would a backdraft still be probable after the fire was out and CO2 is exhausted but the temperatures are still high enough to cook off the vapors?
im very glad you said the phrase "learn to read smoke." i once trained with David Dodson, a guru of smoke readin and it is fuckin GOLD!!!
a back draft is when the fire is starved for oxgen, look at the smoke if its going out and in like a breath and u brake a window it will exploed, a flash of can be caused by braking the thermo layers of smoke mix the heated gas to mix the low more explove gas to the hotter on the stop lays the will roll like a wave over the top of u.
@oohmydearcarolline Well said, flashover is similar. Where a fire within a building or compartment is burning, the burnt gasses rise to the roof. These gasses are still combustible, and after a certain period of time, these gasses will get hot enough, and at the correct mixture to ignite. where the fire will then consume all the smoke at the roof and eat downward into the room.
@oohmydearcarolline So if that is a backdraft, what is a flashover?
can you please tell me were i can find the last backdraft in the movie?
where did you get the footage at 40 seconds,1:40, and 2:00? i have been looking for that documentary for ages. even if you just have the name of it, that would be so helpful
awesome video! great job capturing it all
scary shit man .... whats the best way 2 avoid a flashover?
damn that backdraft at 1:16 wiped out those fire men out in a flash man that fire came out of no where
Not nowhere. The smoke was very heavy & pulsing out laterally. Not a good sign. The aerial truck was set up too close to the building although it was difficult to tell how much space was available. The aerial bucket was operating too close to the window openings. This why we have collapse zones & why many agencies use stream shapers to allow master stream operations from a greater distance & with better penetration.
belle video sa montre bien les risque du métier!!
very good.welldone from greece
@ Iroday88
could you please send me the link?
because there are so many versions, but i like only this one!
i can´t find this version anywhere!
omg... the smoke at 2:11 looks like a face when it comes right at the camera! Reminds of the Harry Potter cloud of voldemort :P
In the first seen, no profesional fire fighter wold walk up to a door like that, and open it, let alone stand right their in front it.
Pirates of the Caribbean!!!
Re: the video at 01:30, this was filmed in either 1981 or 1982 following the tragic Stardust disco fire in Artane, Dublin, where 48 young people lost their lives on 14th February 1981. This was a constructed mock up of the said premises, using the same seating (and materials) to investigate how the fire spread so fast, & how it was so deadly. I remember hearing that the gas being released off the seats before they ignited at 1:42 was cyanide gas (no joke). The images speak for themselves...
@se5tachi Hit the ceiling with a quick burst of water to cool things down, but not so much that you bring the superheated gases and steam from the ceiling down on top of you
As I'm from Germany, i don't know Rescue me, but I will change that :)
I'm a firefighter, too, and I keep going mad when the guys take off their masks in burning obejects to talk to victims and all the other crazy stuff.
asomw video
Tout simplement magnifique ... j'ai hate de combatre
@Pyroechidna1
thanx man, i knew the flash over had something to do with the overheated smoke and gasses..
cheers :)
A Flashover is when everything in a certain area, say a room, reaches it's ignition point and simultaneously bursts into flames. Lotta Heat, Fire, Light, etc REEEAAAALLLLYYY quickly
what!!! ok the tune from pirates of the carribean might have something to do with the skull smoke but still freaking awesome.
what is with the pirates of the carrabien theme it's awesome
Tiens la musique de "Pirates des Caraïbes", comme c'est original ! Je l'avais jamais entendue avant, sauf peut-être 10000 fois.
in the case of the train its a flashover?
en el caso del tren es un flashover? creo que si
nice
I love this Fire Brigade
I love the techno
RESCUE ME; a bit of a nutty show, but they do have some good interior firefighting scenes that portray, to a pretty good degree, what it's like in a fire. Most fires, however, produce almost zero visibility and that's what makes firefighting a very dangerous occupation.
You can't see what you're up against until it's too late.
Agreed - what, are we at a rave?
cool
Thank your local firefighter for all they do.
its funny how they just took this out of the movie backdraft. which is funny because it happens to be on tv right now
oui il y a une formation mais juste pour ce protégé donc on doit ce coucher au sol le binome contre le bat et mettre la lance vers le haut et mettre en maxi débit en jet de protection
da guy at :57 sec is crazy, what do you mean he isin't wearing and SCBA? he must have been suffocating from all that smoke.
is this a training or actual. it's a dangerous job.
AAARRRGGH MAN YE WATER HOSES!!!
Nice clips but had to put the sound on mute. Sooooo annoying and unnecessary, plenty of tension in the pics.
Min. 01:29+ Was this an old little cinema, where the projector caught fire?
Does anyone have the video of the fire at 1:30
I'd like to see the full video of that one too!
poor friends poor friends....I´m voluntary firefighter in luxembourg and I can just say thats the worst that can happen to you..
crazy how the smoke looks like water on the ceiling
song?
Stopped video at the beginning. Music is WAY too loud; can't hear anything that is being said. Thumbs down!!! Why you UA-camrs feel you have to ruin a video with way too loud music, and often music that most people don't care for at all, is beyond me!
. . . because they are 10 years old. . .
same, and why use a ruined version of an incredibly written piece?
you can turn the sound off
+baesex - Riiiiiggghhtt! And how does that help me to hear what the people are saying in the clip, you nit!? How does that help me to understand ANYTHING that the firemen or dispatch is saying on the video under all that loud ass music? Good piece, but it needs be much, much lower so we can all hear what is being said over the radios. How does turning off my sound help with that? You, sir/m'am are a moron!
no one is taking except for like 15 sec.
@1958debs oh right.. i heard this in one of the tom clancy games though, im sadly mistaken
was that back draft or flash over at 1:26
@JDMC42 hha I am not even a firefighter and I would have not smashed the door open -- instead I might have sprayed water into the cracks at least... then again could the resulting steam create pressure and blow the door open...
facing death of firemen in their fire fighting career.
Childish people playing with a situation they are not trying to control nor are they thinking of the responsibilities they have toward their families. Read my comment above.
@peanutbuttersticky That's from the Pirates of the Caribbean. Drink up Me Hearties, I believe.
DJ tiesto - He's a pirate
2:12 was like kaaaaa mee haa me haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :P
1:29 Nice little segment with rollover.
geiles wideo einefach nur geil ich würde gerne mal einen backtraft in einem einsatz ml sehen so richtig realen fall
Greg, are you in the Swedish Fire Service?? You wouldn't happen to live near Vallentuna and Stockholm would you?? My immediate and extended family are great friends with a family that live in Vallentuna and we really consider them family as well. My 4th brother actual worked in Stockholm for several years for one of the big US recording companies. Any way, liked video.........critiqued the shit out of it. But after well over 30 year in the Fire Service I've got a little experience under my belt. Stay safe brother.
We are not talking about death rates...there are far more firefighters that get injured horribly everyday, even though they may not die. They can break bones, burn their faces or extremities, Just because there is a low death rate does not mean the job is dangerous.
@Rangers75th7 Pirates of the Caribbean with some sort of techno remix.
l.o.l.@1:30 ~1:50 those chuch pews must have stunk ! pew :P you can see the gasses coming from them
awesome soundtrack can you tell me where to get it??
0:26 "Did you check that door for heat..??"
@Gregoropolis
thanx 4 the reply buddy much apriciated :)
the backdraft part is literally from a movie called backdraft...
@devilsgoalie13 You're right, if you look closely, you can see a large explosion!
+5 for the videos, -3000 for the music
Lol the pirates of the carribean theme music?
name me one! Fire-fighting movie/series that is halfway realistic ;)
Justin Hold,the brave fireman that abuses 6yr old on the net
2:13 That demon face was scary
The recreation at 1:29 was carried out after 48 people died in the Stardust nightclub fire in Ireland back in the 80's. If watch the ashtray on the front table to combusts from the heat.
the song is ;):
Tiësto - Pirates of the Caribbean
RRHHHAAAA the end of world coming say a mormom in my back
Nice video!...but muted at 1:00
Ach du scheiße!!!richtig Übel man!
some scary shit
who know the title of the music ?
muy bueno!!
are we in harry potter? xD
this are backdrafts and rollovers, no flashovers
What's the difference between "Backdraft" and "Flashover"?
1:13 Ouch, face burn
@se5tachi cooling the smoke!
damn...
Chui jsp en effet c'est pas cool e se prendre un Backdraft dans la tête sa me fait peur sa mais bon il faut ben du monde pour prendre la relève...
que bueno esto para mis compañeros
He's a pirate by DJ Tiesto
Yeah you're usually blowed across the street when it happens
yes that is correct
tom clancy music x3
poor firefighters T_T