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As a black male in college I would love to tell you that your content reaches a broad scope of people keep on going and stay blessed!!!
Glad you’re here. Appreciate hearing that.
@@NedyahFoxto show the broad spectrum of interested people( medieval knights are europeans but still it’s interesting to see that other races interested in such topics )
@@Darksoil4555 there’s plenty of black people in Europe my boy
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@@VloggingThroughHistory Plz watch Admiral Yi: Lies by EH You are missing so much if you don't watch it!
Sandrhoman is a really really good channel. I hope you‘ll do more of them. Their „staggering sieges“ series is really really good and it deserves more audience imo
SandRhoman is really good. I especially liked the series on the Burgundian wars which are maybe a little bit underrated. In short: Charles the Bold who was on the verge of carving out a wealthy kingdom right in the middle of Western Europe between France and Germany (basically from the low lands to Switzerland, kinda old Lotharingia) ran into the Swiss and lost everything (his treasure, his lands and his life) in a kinda freakish way. In the aftermath parts of Burgundy went to the French while other parts went to the Habsburgs (a major reason for the rise of the dynasty).
"How the Duke of Burgundy lost everything in 3 rounds by Swiss mercenaires, paid by the King of France "
I learned that at school...
If Charles the bold had a son , he could have succeeded.
A small point Chris. At the beginning you say war was seasonal up to the twentieth century but it’s actually still seasonal now.
The current war in Ukraine is now relatively quiet because it is autumn and winter will soon arrive.
During bad weather air power is inhibited and armour struggles in mud and bad weather. Infantry too tends to stay in place when the weather is bad.
And honestly even before the 20th c. winter fighting wasn’t unheard of. Think of the battle of Eylau, or Napoleon’s campaign to defend Paris in early 1814 (can’t remember if it had a specific name.)
That isn’t a rule. It depends on your capability. Germany/Russia often attacked during Winter, IE Battle of the Bulge or even the battle ancient battle of Grunewald *sp* where the Lithuanian/Polish army destroyed the Teutonic order.
Tell that to the German 6th army in Stalingrad lol
@@Vandelberger the winter arguably saved the Russians in 1942
SandRhoman is excellent. I would to get more reactions to their stuff in the future.
I am so glad you found this channel--it's one I've been a real fan of for a year or so.
As a Swede I would highly recommend there series on the Swedish-polish war and Gustavus Adolphus military reforms, highly underrated and unknown in the general public
This is Awesome! SandRhoman History has got lots of great content for you to check out in the future
The various spellings of Meier (the German version of Mayor) are still the third most common family name in Germany after Schmidt (Smith) and Müller (Miller). On fourth place is Schulz, a very similar office appointed by a lord to administer local laws and taxes.
It clearly must have been a very prestigious title for common people in Germany to keep it around as a family name, even though there would have been much fewer Meiers and Schulzes than in most of the other professions that make up the common German family names.
What, then, is the difference between a Meier and a Burgomeister?
great to see some sandrhoman on your channel.
I found SandRhoman History 3 years ago, and you can't imagine how happy I am to finally see you react to them.
When it comes to the Pike and Shot era, they're unmatched on UA-cam.
Actually , funnily enough there was a picture taken in some tenement ( in America i forgot where it was ) where the landlord essentially tried to "form a levy" out of the tenants to remove tenants who were unable to pay their monthly rent , even told them to arm themselves lmao
It was extremely hilarious and also extremely entitled that a landlord thought their renters were just serfs
I have heard that in England, during the Middle Ages, if your yearly earnings reached a certain point you could be knighted, but some people refused because it also meant you wound be obligated to serve in war and become part of the vertical requirement.
War = Seasonal: Even today this is true to a certain extent. In Ukraine, everybody is talking about spring offensives and that during winter, there won't be much movement.
Fighting will continue, sure, but if the winter isn't very mild, nobody expects to see big offensives during winter time.
SandRhoman "Staggering Siege" videos are great. His video on the 21 year Ottoman Siege of Candia is epic.
I just wanna add that as a recent vet I can confirm that soldiers are STILL required to buy their own uniforms and adjacent accessories with their own money. Even in modern times that hasn’t gone away
You can say that even today war is fought seasonally. One of that would be the Russo-Ukrainian war of which counter offensives on both sides wax and wane depending if it's spring, winter, or mud season.
I love that SandRhoman spends a lot of the video going into recruitment outside the formal feudal pyramid. In a lot of narratives about the medieval period, the feudal model is often overemphasised and shown as a model for all of society instead of just one structure within a much more complicated system.
I quite like Sandrhoman.
His "event" videos to sieges like Vienna and Malte are awesome, but also his background videos about recruitment and how fortresses worked.
Definitely more of SandRhoman, please! They're great!
I checked out this channel after watching the alternate history video from the other day and I ended watching like half his videos lol, awesome channel!
Sandrhomanhistory is a history channel i really enjoy. Would love to see more of him, as the topics are almost always quite interesting, though one rarely thinks about them.
Greetings and keep it up 🤟
SandRhoman is a great channel for this time period and early modern periods. Definitely worth checking out, and I'm glad you're doing so right now!
Hey, Chris glad you got home safe from France! In regards to your comment on soldiers paying for their equipment has "technically" not changed. Your equipment is or TA-50 is signed out to you just like your weapon and vehicle. If you lose an item you pay for it. The same goes for your uniforms on your enlistment birthday you get a clothing bonus to pay for new uniforms. Anything you have that is excess is up for keeps! Army 09-14
So glad to see you react to SandRhoman!
I love this channel, been a subscriber for a long time
Good to see your reaction to SandRhoman they do excellent work.
And yeah I’d love to see your reaction to the 30 Years War - especially as you have a good soundtrack in the form of the first half of Sabatons Carlous Rex album to go along with when the Swedes show up.
As for the idea of “professional soldiers” even back then your not to far off actually having such in the form of Men-at-Arms.
In the more mid-later period, if you were a newly land granted Knight of say 50 odd people, one thing you’d probably do is go through that 50 people and find the most fittest and secondary of task men there was - I.e. you didn’t go looking for the head farmer, you looked for the farmhands; you didn’t take the blacksmith, you took the blacksmith’s apprentice, etc;
After finding these men, what you’d do after assessing their skills, is actually pay them. Yes you’d essentially give these men a very small allowance of money each month to essentially say:
1. If you were called to war, these men would be your soldiers that your take.
2. That after taking the money, outside of extreme factors you must be able to muster when called.
3. They are to use a portion of this money to both fund their potential of absence and family, but the other portion must be used to fund their military use.
I.e. You find a huntsman who’s pretty decent at using a bow as he uses said skills to earn a living and meal.
Well you would essentially pay him a small fee to both cover the time he’d miss when called to training or when not at home; and for him to keep to a quality status of marksmanship which should it flunk you would rescind your pay but should it improve you might toss a bit more on to incentivise both him and others to improve greatly.
And like above a portion of this money would always be expected to go towards funding their equipment and materials for war.
So a farmhand which gets this pay would be expected to use part of this pay to fund himself getting a personal weapon like a spear or axe (or if funded quite well a sword), armour (be it gambeson armour on the cheaper side or again I’d better paid anywhere from chain to even plate armour) and secondary supplies like food, water, camp tools, etc;
And over a period of potentially months to years, these guys may never see a war for a while but they’d be constantly mustered for as said competitions and large scale training alongside other noble men. And it was quite normal to see the difference in quality well payed “professionals” had compared to low quality pull togethers.
And sometimes this would actually be incentivised by their own lords who’d actually pay a portion of their own funding to the knights to raise local professions like this - cause who wants to be the Lord who turns up to the muster point with bad looking and poor quality troops who would only get you a rough reputation vs high quality soldiers who can fight, are wearing good quality armour and equipment and bearing your sigil of allegiance somewhere (it would be common for troops sworn to a Lord to wear a small “badge” of allegiance towards their standing Lord. So maybe a white flower in the hat or on the lapel, or a bit of red fabric sown around your cuffs, or a part of your lords heraldry marked somewhere on your shirt or shield (tho not trying to cover your own if you had one).
So yeah the idea of “professional” soldiers while not exactly equal to our standards today with standing armies of men who essentially sign onto contracts of extended periods of just military service, by medieval standards this would be their form of a professional soldier, payed to literally train and equip themselves so should war arise they actually turn up in quality condition with everything that’s needed to actually survive and win a campaign.
I would love to see you do content on the 30 years war! I just finished a book about it, and it is such a fascinating and complex conflict, and the Sandrhoman videos on it are fantastic.
Definitely would love to see you check his 30 years war content. His videos are what got me in to this era of history and especially those regarding the 30 years war
So glad you’re reacting to SandRhoman
VTH has discovered SandRhoman, this is an auspicious day indeed! Looking forward to the Thirty Years War, it's one of my favourite eras, and a very unappreciated one at that.
Thanks for shoutout Chris - hope your enjoying the France trip 👍🏻
I really love SandRhoman’s channel! You should definitely do more of their videos Chris
The cost of your equipment and uniforms does still come out of your pay in the modern US military today. The main difference being that they also actually pay you so you can afford to buy those things.
You need to do a video of Sandrhoman about the sieges!
WE NEED MORE REACTIONS TO SANDRHOMAN!
Its worth adding that on top of the difference in effectiveness due to equipment of a knight vs a raised mass leveeman, theres also the training.
Knights are fundamentally warriors, its where the term comes from, they are the private cavalry soldiers of a lord so to become a knight, on top of the social etiquette that stems from a private soldier of a lord being able to not embarrass said lord in high society, arms is essential.
Knights, particularly those of noble birth who were raised to become knights, were trained warriors from childhood. They may have been taught to manage holdings too but they are overwhelmingly in good shape and very experienced with their weapons and horse, which they could often ride before they could walk properly.
Take the equipment away and put a knight against a peasant whos been drafted, the man with 20 odd years of combat training by the time he's 28 is going to beat the farmer with under a years training with the weapon he's been given.
Love the content. Cheers from Estonia. cough cough Grand Tactician cough cough.
Such a great game isn’t it. I love watching it
He merely failed to win ;D
Its fun to see how it changed over time as the romans had large standing armies/regions, then we got to the middle ages and it changes and now we are back to both standing armies and conscribtion
his series on the 30 years war is by far the best on youtube explaining that war, It would be really cool if you could find the time to react to this series
Another thing to note, would be just how difficult it is to actually get people. Like, under the medieval system before the high Medieval, an average-sized "Kingdom" would be hard pressed to muster an army that goes into the ten-thousands. Given a population of 50,000 that would provide at best something like maybe 5 available, able-bodied soldiers.
In contrast, around similar time periods Asian nations tended to have a much more focused, centralized bureaucracy and a closely-knit farming communties which made it relatively easier to muster huge armies. And even taking into account the inaccuracies and habitual exaggeration of Asian records, still on average a warring campaign would muster armies of around 50,000 to 100,000 on average.
Finally Sandrhoman History!
I love this kind of content. Much like the last video you had about the "knights with guns" in America we don't understand the time period of say 800-1500 very well at all. Most of us who are European decent makes you really be thankful to be alive sometimes since our ancestors had to deal with plagues and such. I know my decent is largely German and I know I had an ancestor serve as a Hessian Mercenary, and have been looking up how the Holy Roman Empire worked and I'm still confused.
love your vids
Good morning. Good morning. It's 4:30 a.m., and I see a new video just posted. Nice! 😁
A video similar to this, that you may like is Horses on Campaign During Medieval Times by thehistorysquad.
The Lord of The Rings reference just sailed over you at 10:18
Another really good channel that focuses on medieval history is Medieval Madness. They focus on weird and interesting things you’d see during that time
Fascinating stuff. I think the age old tradition of every freeborn man being obliged to be armed according to his means and ready to fight adds a certain “color” to armies back then. Like, there’s a certain brawny-ness to Roman legionaries or Greek hoplites, who are basically heavily armed farmers who specialize in fighting as units made up from local communities.
Oh boy VTH at 3:00a.m!
You are amazing
finally!! you finally reacted to Sandhroman. chris, please react to his siege of Malta or siege of Vienna. you have got to react to Sandhroman's siege of malta and vienna! also he puts captions on ALL of his videos, u could turn them on, too. they're not auto generated, like he actually scripts all his captions
So even today you have things like the selective service (better known as the draft) that can be called up at any time. While notably different (in that you would be trained and equipped) it is effectively a mass levy.
Another Vid req in the sea but Whatifalthist has done a fun little overview of the 20 greatest atrocities in history that would be fun to take a look at. It's largely divorced from his tendancy towards politics.
Very little happened in winter, unless you play grand tactician the civil war, the winter seems a hotbed for fights, that AI needs some serious work 😂
Charlemagne's dad was "Mayor of the Palace"
You missed the Lord of the Rings cameo here 10:25
A reaction video at 4:30 in the morning? Sure, I’m down
i recommend "rowing to war: the age of the galley" by sandrhoman
6:40 This hardly applies to the 15th century, for example, when citizens in Germany were obliged to get armor. It is not for nothing that this century is considered to be probably the most armored. You only have to look at pictures from the Swiss chronicles of the battles of the Burgundian Wars. It feels like 90 percent are armored. But that is actually due to the development of cities and their citizens. What I mean by this is that the difference in quality between a knight and a foot soldier had significantly reduced during this time. Let's take, for example, a master craftsman who had already earned a considerable fortune back then. So he can afford an high quality armour.
Hey i dont know if this is in your wheelhouse but can you do a vid or two on the inter tribal conflicts furing the civil war? For example the cherokee civil war and stand watie?
I had to get up to an go on a FD call and now here
Sand Roman is more to the source and more about history and not that much about effects and drama.
I think the comparison to a pyramide scheme is interesting and accurate since so much is built on the idea of gaining land and dividing the spoils of war.
In England a town could be known as a knights support or fee.
VTH Can you do a video of some type of the Terrill brothers of the civil war?
swiss accent😁🇨🇭
Ah, so that's what it was. At first I thought it was a Spanish accent that I wasn't familiar with because of his pronunciation of 's' (retracted) and 'v' (like a 'b'), but then he said a Spanish word in a very strange way, so I thought: is it Dutch? Surely not, then he would have pronounced the v's af f.
You can even see on any calendar that war is seasonal. There is a reason why the Romans named the (according our calendar) third month of the year after Mars (their god of war). Literally March is the month when you march into war.
You could make an argument that part of the reason William won at Hastings was that Harold’s army had already been disbanded once to go home to manage the harvest before being recalled. Harold also had fewer ‘professional’ troops than William as England had been relatively peaceful pre 1066 in comparison with Normandy and northern France where battles over land and rivalries between families were very common pre 1066.
Brave as the Saxons undoubtedly were the Normans were also brave. Plus they knew if they lost they were most likely going to die in England which would have increased their determination. The Saxons breaking the line to run down the hill is indicative of the Norman cavalry being more professional I feel. A trained Saxon line that knew not to break ranks but to hold the high ground would not have run pell mel down the hill after cavalry and infantry. The Normans knew they were fighting a mainly civilian army that they had to break from its formation to destroy.
Very nice.
Is it still the case in Switzerland that all men who might be called up for military service keep their service rifle and some ammunition at home? I believe it still was not that long ago.
@VTH Please do Indian History as well...
SandRhoman clearly puts alot of work into their visuals. I just keep finding how they swing their spears while walking unimmersive.
I've always preferred this kind of content over campaign and battle field reports/overviews.
5:56 pitch battles were still nowhere near as common as the films and others make it seem.
10:52 not really accurate since even the king at the very top needs to keep those under him satisfied. It's not always top to bottom but almost as frequently bottom to top.
Can you do a reaction video to Invicta Units of History?
Nice topic to watch. I really like the medieval period but people dont really talk about it.
Hi Chris, are you going to see the Sabaton movie?
Have you checked out “Ultimate General: American Revolution” trailer? Would love to see it on you play it on your other channel whenever it releases
I have seen it and I will definitely be playing it on the channel!
A war in Europe today would deffinently end up being just as seasonal...assuming it stayed convensional and didnt go nuclear. No one wants to fight in winter, leaders dont want to fight in winter, those leaders dont want casualties to seasonal deseases during winter or deal with snow in general because fuel would be more expensive and jet fighters would be hinderd by the cooler air as well
If you have an interest in this topic I recommend the anime Vinland Saga which goes into detail about this stuff.
Hey Chris, when do you think you’ll have time to get back to some gaming? 🏴
During the Ukraine war even the offensive was set to begin in spring rather than in winter. War will always be seasonal to some extent for a long time still.
Chris, you're either up very early or very late. In either case, thank you for video at 1:55am in the PNW.
It’s 10 in the morning in France
@@VloggingThroughHistory Ahh... K. I had forgotten about your trip to France. Have fun, give us more cool, interesting history. 😊
Hi Chris. Can you do Kraut's first video? Can you also do Historia Civilis' Peace video? I would recommend watching Kraut's video in Realism afterwards. Really recommend watching those two side by side. I would love to hear your insights on their discussions of history in those videos. Their discussions are more profound than an average historical discussion to which your thoughts as a historian would be greatly appreciated.
anyone else noticed the Lord of The Rings refference?
It’s nice for me that you dropped this at 4 am but it might not get you the most views right away.
wouldn't a soldier that travels via horse yet fights on foot be called a dragoon and not cavalry?
Uniforms still come out of our paychecks in the American military
We are still in Norway by law expected fight for our country in a call up
I used to be a feudal levy like you then I took an arrow in the knee.
Sandrhoman is an excellent channel. Once you start watching them a lot of other channels start to look kinda basic.
War is still seasonal to this day. Look at the Ukrainian war, most operations cease during the winter save for artillery/drones etc. And the planning of a spring offensive happens
without watching I know sandhroman is accurate
why?
because he cites sources in his description, a critical aparatus which all academic literature requires.
Be careful with that line of thinking. I've seen plenty of REALLY bad history videos on youtube that list exhaustive sources in their description but either outright lie about what they say or take them so out of context as to be worthless.
@@VloggingThroughHistory you are right, but if all goes well I will also be a historian next year and I do take pride in what I study
In the case of sandhroman however I have studied much of what he speaks about, in large part because I myself am from the low countries and have even sent some of his video's to some of my professors. and used them in the bibliography of some of my work, all be it as supportive material as there is no peer review process for youtube videos
Hi Chris. In order to raise a medieval army, you need 50+ imperial authority. Problem solved.
I do hope that my email to you made it and your computer didn't flag it as anything.
Very good reaction. But one minor quibble I have is when you said the idea of soldiers being paid for their service is a fairly recent phenomenon. From what I’ve read, soldiers being paid wages for a specific campaign in Ancient and Medieval times was more common than a lot of people think. In Medieval Europe most peasants owed either their lord or the King 40 days service, which often took the form of military service. But in England at least, it’s thought this really only applied to service within a tenant’s home county, and once they were outside their county their we’re entitled to wages.
During Edward I’d invasion of Scotland in 1298 for instance, as I understand it the payrolls show that leading up to the Battle of Falkirk Edward was paying wages to 26,000 infantry and 3000 cavalry. It’s true that many common soldiers often made more money through looting and pillaging an enemies territory than they did through their wages, but wages were still a thing. They were often late in being paid as the King had to haggle the money out of parliament (or raise the funds through private loans), and common soldiers could often be dismissed with virtually no notice. But again the majority of them were paid wages for any time they served outside their county, our outside their obligatory 40’s service.
WAY TO EARLY!
Just checking in. Still leaching off other peoples work I see 🙄
I’m early