What Happened When a Meteor Hit a Roman Battlefield? (74 BC) - DOCUMENTARY
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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In this history documentary we explore the incredible case of a meteorite which landed between Roman and Pontic armies in the Third Mithridatic War. We begin with a broader discussion of what people of the past thought of meteors and comets. This varied from place to place but in the near east had a tradition of generating star prophecies which foretold the fall of great Empires and the coming of messiahs.
We discuss how these prophecies would seemingly be fulfilled by King Mithridates of Pontus. A brief overview is provided for the Mithridatic Wars which featured many cases of gods taking sides in battle. This all eventually leads us to the fateful day when a meteorite suddenly landed in the midst of two armies. We quote the sources directly and go on to discuss the fallout of the event.
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Research = Invicta
Writing = Invicta
Narration = Invicta
Artwork = Penta Limited
Editing = Invicta
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We follow up this episode with a documentary on the the Meteor Weapons of history: ua-cam.com/video/0AQivD_S-gk/v-deo.html
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"The stars foretell our doom."
"How so?"
"Because that one is heading right towards us!"
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Under-rated comment!!! Thanks: i REALLY needed a good belly laugh.
uhhh THATS NO STAR IT'S A NUKE!!
Very funny.
Honestly the idea of a meteor coming down and the gods seemingly 'decree' that the battle your about to fight should not happen is some pretty mindblowing stuff. I bet every damn soldier got down on his knees once they all got home and thanked the gods for sparing their lives.
It's yeah let's pack it up.
More likely both sides expected a victory, thus a chance to survive. Also, fighting and risking their lives is what they did. Dying is a natural part of that. None cowered before the battle. However, once the stone fell, they all feared spilling blood on that ground far more than dying in a battle.
@@IlmarKiisk I think it would clearly be interpreted as a sing of "no fight today folks" and I say this knowing that many participants that day may have been if not eager then definitely professional soldiers expecting to do battle that day. The meteor may have also induced great fear, depending on the blast, size, noise, and proximity. This is fascinating, shame we don't know more.
Cesar would have jumped at the opportunity to spin a convincing tale why this shows the gods approve his just cause and his side must win the battle.
@@saintjackula9615 Yes, but fear was more likely that of fear of gods. A heavenly intervention. And the fact it had stricken in between them, was even more meaningful to them. Yes, they were likely very eager to do battle, but only until the moment that meteor struck the ground. After that, all thoughts must have been about the gods not wanting them to fight there and then.
When the romans are so powerful even a literal comet king gets beaten
So this is a tale I read about long ago and have always wanted to cover it. For me the meteor strike itself is certainly interesting, but perhaps more so are the prophecies and religious ideas which swirled around it in this period. I spend quite a lot of time discussing this more interesting (in my opinion) content. If you want to jump straight to the meteor, go to: 12:03
Another superb episode, thankyou.
Great video as always have you ever studied the 2300 day prophecy?
That was really interesting to learn how the gods helped people fight. Wish we had more info about the meteor.
it sounds strange a meteorite would strike a Roman battlefield until you realize the Romans were basically 24/7 committing warfare so a meteorite, no matter when it lands, will land in a war.
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Mithridates was not any "champion of the east". He was just a rival of Rome, he did not see himself in any... continental magnitude. If he saw himself in any greater level, that was definitely as a champion of the Greek cause against Romans. Though nearly half Greeks were fine with Romans having welcomed them in, there were still many Greeks who were willing to upturn the situation back then including even within traditional pro-Roman Greek cities such as Athens. Thus following the demise of the Seleucids, Mitrhidates (himself 3/4s Greek and married to a Greek, thus in spite of his Iranic name essentially an ethnic Greek and also self-identifying as ethnic Greek) presented himself as liberator of Greece. Greece was not the East back then, it was the West. Rome was merely "a bit more West than West". The Asiatic people did not detest Romans as much as they truly detested Greeks, not really because Greeks were suppressing and looting them but rather because Greeks had it so good for 2 centuries establishing themselves as a superior caste over Asiatic societies. Thus Mithridates was not really any "champion of the East" or "champion of Asians vs. the western Romans". He was, at best, "champion of Greeks" vs. the Romans and had he won he would have established some sort of Empire eerily reminiscent of the Eastern Roman Empire - in essence, a Greek ethno-state larping as a multi-national Empire and one truly detested by the Asiatic people.
Fair points
Fascinating
He was a champion of the eastern peoples in a sense that he was the embodiment of "rightful kingship" against the western opressors/colonisers (Especially the new "upstart Romans" that had no prior history of co-existing alongside anatolians and were immediately settling the area as soon as it got into their hands). He didn't claim ancestry from Darius I for no reason; he wanted to merge hellenic and native anatolian peoples as one, ruling them as equal subjects to form a bulwark against Roman hegemony.
@@prs_81 Yes, while he mostly appealed to the Greek world to get backing up he always maintained the syncretic outlook that of course not just him but all other Greek rulers of the so-called Hellenistic kingdom maintained. There are for example artistic depictions of him dressed like an Iranian (with trousers and Phrygian cap) and talking to Hercules who was portrayed in heroic nudity in the typical Greek tradition. Perhaps the funniest but also perfect example of syncretism. What I wanted to emphasize on my original message is that nor Mithridates neither any of his followers saw this on a scale larger than the actual geography, something like East vs. West. As said, Mithridates own kingdom, let alone the Greeks he wanted to back him up, were actually the West. Rome was just a bit more West than West. People back then did not see this as an Asia vs. Europe precisely because Europe was a vague notion without all the connotations we give it today. There was no Christianity vs. Islam.
If there was a greater fight back then - and yes there was! - that was the fight between Hellenism and Asiatic cultures. A cultural and spiritual fight between the Greeks' humanism and the Asiatics' fatalistic idealism. And both Rome and Mithridates represented more the Hellenic side of that struggle rather than the Asiatic one. To be noted, there were Asiatic influences upon Rome as early as that century when in the nest 100 years Mithraism hit widely throughout the Empire. It is not that Rome was a "virgin" to Asiatic influences at the time of the Mithridatic wars. All in all you have to see both Mithridates and Rome as parts of the greater Hellenic world, in Rome's case in the cultural case, in Mithridates' case also partially in ethnic terms as many of his kingdom's citizens and including him to great extent were ethnic Greeks. Saying this we got to remember that the Greek world was essentially divided in that struggle too and speaking of mainland Greece it was rather a hammer and an anvil case since whoever prevailed would govern Greece from a basis outside Greece at a time that Greeks still remembered fondly their tiny city-states, the very reason they never wanted one of them (Athens, Sparta, Thebes, Macedonia) to rule all of the place centrally.
.... and of course you had the guys who were betting on both. Much like that general of Antiochus a century earlier who supposedly fought on the side of Antiochus only to get appraisals and gifts from the Romans for his work. LOL! Empire making is a complex affair, yet based on simple mechanics : diplomacy, geopolitics, propaganda. The military is the last hole in the flute. This example in this video of how to interpret a natural phenomenon is quite an indicative one.
@@dinos9607 great response. 👍
_Small piece of space dust hits a giant piece of space dust_
Meatwater sacks: holy shit this is a big deal!!
"Meatwater sack" is a great alternative term for "human"
Even in today, there would be peoples to interpret such evenement if they happened today
Lmao, nihilist cringe lord
Why you be calling us humans meatsacks, bro? What did we do to you?
@@applesandgrapesfordinner4626 Don't be self-conscious, I myself am merely an ammonia silicatesack with only three rather than your impressive five protrusions.
A man followed the meteor's trail. When he found it he made a sword out of the metal and built a fortress there. He named the sword Dawn and fortress Starfall. Down the road a baby was born in a battlefield destined to rule Anquilonia. Another baby in same battlefield was destine to create an empire of man
Haha Dayne + Conan + Sigmar. Well done!
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You know, I'm not superstitious, but if a natural meteor crashed between two armies about to start a battle, even I would take that as a sign that the universe doesn't want that fight to go through today XD
It's fascinating to know that ancient soldiers were a particularly superstitious bunch. Modern soldiers, to my knowledge, are also known for being abnormally superstitious.
I imagine when you're a soldier spending that much time seeing so much death and destruction you'd probably tend to be more superstitious. Deaths the great unknowable event, they're surrounded by it. Most normal people in first world countries today probably hardly ever think about it, or experience it in such a vivid surreal manner as soldiers do routinely.
it seems superstitions hold some advantage that we just can't figure out yet.
I think it's because soldiers are always risking their life so that's why even modern soldiers are superstitious
It’s entirely strange how someone so ingenious, cautious, and lucky was still absolutely trounced by the Romans. Mithrodates is one of those people that come once a century yet still he couldn’t even stop Rome from expanding east.
“It's no accident that one small village on the Tiber. . . . . .was chosen to rule the world. It wasn't just our legions. Other countries have armies, fine armies. I know, I fought them. No, it was fate that chose us to civilize the world. And we have. Our roads and ships connect every corner of the earth.”
The crazy thing to me is that possibly billions of years ago that meteor was on its course to land right at that spot between two armies. Crazy.
Symbolically, the star landing in front of the armies of mithridates in the battle that would decide his invasion of Rome, blocks his advance and foretells his loss by their hand.
Could you do a video about non roman army uniforms of the era. Wondering how common they were even in organise armies.
You do know the star of Bethlehem wasn't a comet or meteor, right?
Also, it's not the least bit surprising that a meteorite strike followed so closely on the heels of a comet's passing. Most of our meteors come from debris left over in the orbit of a comet. The more recently the comet passed, the larger and more frequent the meteors.
Those aren’t comets or meteorites you’re seeing - that’s GOD in the sky !!!!
@@OwnedEpicStyle lol yeah, ok.
@@stevenlornie1261 lmfao
Much appreciative of your inclusion of an Eastern perspective on the issue. I have seen some of your videos from time to time but with this one you have gained me as a sub.
"In a story that will involve Jesus, the world's oldest computer, and the fall of Rome."
As you do.
It could have gone worse. Pretty sure i read an article (not a trustworthy one though) about a ancient, bronze age town completely leveled by the impacts of a meteorite. The habitants were ten of thousands, so many life snuffed out by a tragic fate of a big rock falling from quite high.
That was Gomorah
The shockwave knocked down the walls of Jericho
Perhaps it was the twin tailed comet? Perhaps it’s a sign from Sigmar !
The Nation calls!
There's been a few underground Mithranic temples found. Each has an altar with a relief of Mithras and the bull, a long table and a statue of Magna Mater aka Cybele.
I'm familiar with some of her rites and worship but never knew why she would be found in a place where only soldiers visited to worship. Mithras rites are secret to this day. Cybeles worship is bloody and sexual and involves self castration. If they taught that Cybele came herself to help in battle that makes sense she'd be in their temples. Other than that I see no reason why soldiers would want her anywhere around them.
That centurion is doing the soyjack point lol
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the viedo starts at 13:00
9:58 Black cow after swimming for untold amounts of time: “Land, finally! Now I can rest.”
The people: “A black cow, finally! Now we can kill it.”
This is such a cool story, great video!
In a different universe this is the opening to Warcraft III
This was such an awesome video. The prophecies, the meteors, the battlefield. Superb!
Was this the same Mithridates who was immune to poison?
cow: i think ill go for a swim
>changes the course of human history
Good stuff. Keep up the great work
Watch one of this guys first performances and watch him now. Poetry dude. It’s nuts
I find it amazing to think of how much of human history has been led by madness.
Good video 👍🏻 thanks for sharing this with us.
The fact that it fell between them is even more astonishing.
if you read the actual account its even more astonishing, what you just heard from invicta was a rewritten and altered version to suit his own delusions..
Fascinating story
What is the "globe of barus" or whatever that he talked about with the antikythera mechanism
I had never heard about this meteor or Mithridates. Thank you. I can just imagine the common solider saying "What ME? YOU go. You're the officer. That's what they pay you for. I'm NOT going."
"Let us discuss the impact" ha, good one
Need a Roman wojack
Captivating as always. Thanks bud. If I was a soldier on that battlefield I would immediately drop my arms too. Well played nature. I mean space rock.
Space Rock= Nature
So that's what Dovahatty was talking about
9:00 clearly one of the defenders was a cleric and rolled successfully for Divine Intervention
How big was this meteor that it left only a four-foot diameter hole in dirt and or sand? About the size of a marble?
Some Norse thought that stars were little manholes into the heavens.
I wonder how they explained shooting stars.
First
I swear all cool kinds of stuff happened back then.
I assume both sides started screaming ''THEY HAVE A MAX LEVEL FIRE MAGE RUN!!!'' or something idk
My guess before watching: Romans got superstitious and felt like it was an intervention of a god.
Most definitely
Fascinating.....thank you.
The 3 Kings were tired, hungry and needed a beer after their long travels. So they gave their gifts to the baby in the 1st barn they came to.
The real messiah was 3 barns down.
Its like in the "life of Brian" where they came to the wrong barn first :)
When you bring 4 sambuca towers to the DJ's booth and get a fireball instead
Would really like a source for more about the Black Sky Stone of Cybele (15:28), I have heard about this stuff before and I know it's real, but searching the name gives nothing useful.
Imagine being a time traveler and telling the Generals a Great Star will fall from the heavens Tomorrow on the Field of Battle, When it Happens the Entire Army is Instructed to Set their weapons on fire Send Volleys of Fire arrows Balista bolts and Catapult Fire pots, Loose Whistling arrows Scream atop of their Lungs with the Aztec Death Whistles given by the Messenger of the Gods. And Too Charge the Roman line. Giving the Horseman each a Stick of Dynamite and Toxic/smoke/Flashbang grenades. and a 1 Sniper shot too delete their General. Such Chaos!
😐Too much chaos. You've just introduced gun technology, gun powder and nitroglycerin to the Romans and you've messed up the timeline. Again.
The crusades never occur now. No Mongol Hoards. Just romans with guns and heavy artillery marching East for 1000 years.
Russia was never formed. The romans swept further east into Alaska, and wiped out the American Indians by the 1600s.
There was never a space race, and therefore no rush to expand in that area as quickly...and so when the comet arrived in 2067, nothing could be done.
The first rule of time travel is "Never give the Romans your gun".
@@snickle1980🤣
@@snickle1980 "Oops, I left my M1 Garand in the bedroom of Emperor Augustus on the day after he became Emperor. I sure hope it's empty and he thinks it's a -Moroccan- Carthaginian torture device."
Hey man, I have a question if you don't mind. Why do people type like this? Capitalizing words at random through every sentence. I've always wondered this any time I (rarely) see it. Not trying to be a jerk, genuinely curious.
“I didn’t foresee this, consult the chickens!”
"Our chicken blesser got spooked, and ran off with the chickens!"
They most likely thought that it was a weapon system.
The "magic phase" in Warhamer Fantasy Battles makes more sense.
People don't see signs unless they are looking for them. So change was on the edge anyways and one just needs to try and attach something bigger to it.
Damn, Radahn lost that early in the game?
I guess Skaia's defense systems finally gave out
"A neteor hit a roman battlefield. Here's half an hour on totally non related word salad"
Pedantry moment: I doubt very much that they called it a "ceasefire", I'd go with truce ;)
I'm reading my way through Colleen McCollough's Roman series. I don't think she mentions this meteor incident in her heavily-researched novel, Caesar's Women, I think it was, that covers the period, or maybe it was the one previous to it. Yet you say Plutarch mentions it? I must look into this further.
If you just want to skip to where the video actually starts skip to 12:07.
13:24 For the Meteor.
C.s.Lewis also noticed this similarity in stories, but after much thought he realised the Jesus story was true and not a fable, which led to Lewis becoming a Christian.
If you look at work on the Collective Unconscious, stories of a Messiah are universal in humanity. One of our personal tasks is to decide Who, out of all the ones pointed to, is the real Saviour. I choose Jesus Christ, Son Of God. Makes the most sense on all levels, after a lifetime of research.
Was this the Poison king? What a baddass.
Lol, spooked by lightening. I think if I were a soldier covered in highly conductive material standing in the middle of an open field surrounded by other men similarly garb would be spooked by lightening.
If I worshiped a god that threw lightning and raped anything that moved I'd be spooked by signs of his presence too.
*General Radahn has joined the battle.*
Some higher order power deciding to shift the chess pieces around a bit to influence future events? There’s also tales of flaming and gleaming “shields” observing the battlefield during the wars of Ancient Greece and Rome. Was someone overlooking our “progress” as a species?
There’s been hints and bits & pieces here and there throughout history, generals and leaders suddenly hearing “voices” saying doing this or that will lead to victory. Or dreams that influence their decisions.🤷♂️
Anyone know the song in the begginning?
TLDR: Both armies got spooked and went home.
Is the crater still there?
Is that where the Pius sign came from?
Reality is more weird than ancient aliens
Aliens passing by, blazing it up, but got caught up in the atmosphere and crashes. RIP
Super comet. No sense in worrying we're all gonna die someday no sense in spending time scared.
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Alright, I'm gonna be negative here. 12 minutes in, time to get to what happened on the battlefield. "We don't know" some speculation, and "There was a ceasefire". The title seems a bit clickbaity to be and I'd have definitely enjoyed the entire, very well made video if it wasn't for the long drawn out and frankly, unnecessary preamble to an event. But hey, when all you have is speculation and the fact that it lead to a ceasefire in the moment, I guess you have to stretch it out somehow.
cease fire,,hmmm did the have guns? more like hold your arrows.
While i dont think it hit directly between two armies, looking how writing was done back in the day its probably closer that meteor went over their heads and impacted around the area. Potentially between armies so nether side claim it was their gods will to crush the enemies since it went to their direction.. very many ways to spin such event in superstitious time as propaganda, so your army wont panic and flee.
Over all i have high doubts on point of impact being between the armies, but something like mentioned could be plausible
I wish they would have taught stuff like this in school
This is a irl ancient Battlefield moment lol
All I can say is you just had to be there to appreciate the impact.
That humble baby born in Bethlehem had a lot greater impact on the world than Mithridates, who was just another warlord embracing the world's morality.
I wonder if modern science can (or already has) found that impact sight.
Surely the chunk of meteor mentioned would have been hauled off as soon as it cooled but equipment today would find all sorts of traces.
THAT would be Absolutely Fan-Frreaking-Tastic !
Have you bothered to read the real actual account? its even more amazing than this altered and reworded version given to you by Invicta, why he lied and deceived everyone willingly is beyond me except he must be a delusional religious type trying to make it all fit into his middle eastern mythology.. Plutarchs parallel lives is where you will find the real unchanged account.. and you can recognise from the description and event with our modern tech knowledge it was no meteorite.
My dude setting himself up for that one pointing meme with that thumb nail
So… when did the Shogun unite Asia and conquer Rome?
Anime
Tactical airstrike
The answer to the title question is, “we don’t know”.
Centurion Jerry Lee Lewis: "Goodness gracious, great ball(s) of fire!!" 😎😝
Sign to fight like hell
It sounds like a meteor-ocre event.
Jeez if that thing fell instead on one of the armies instead of between them…
"Holy Fuck! We almost got killed!"
Me: 😅
Manga - Mithridates
Netflix adaptation - Jesus
I imagine a centurion stepping out and yelling Mars is with us, then thousands of legionaries marching foward chanting.
5:26 Japan vs Rome when?
I love the title picture for the video its tye roman version of the beta male pointing meme.
What’s the fucking odds….. but for real what are the odds?
"Centurion! Bring me that rock! I want it forged into a sword!"
More accurate then you know meteors have always beeb given a sort of mythical status especially the iron in meteors. 2 Good examples of this are sokka's Sword in avatar the last airbender and "starmetal" From Warhammer fantasy.
or as im the case of the video as omens especially things comets or As another example eclipses (In multiple culture) Most notable being Mayans incans Aztecs and I believe the norse
@@thearmoredgamer9912 there are also some meteorite swords made by Egyptians and Chinese.
@@the_bohemian4536 thank you Kind comentor! Couldn't think of any historical examples for some reason.
my wheelhouse tends to Be more Europe proper or Japan history wise as such Lands like egypt Or China arnt really something I know alot about.
I love thinking of all the great deeds by soldiers and commanders that are completely lost to history because when everyone returned home the guy who risked everything to set a siege tower on fire is overshadowed by some guard on the other side of the conflict repeating the story with "AthEnA did it" as the punchline.
press F to pay respect to all the unrecorded heroes
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There are worse things to happen then to be mistaken for a god.
@@EgoEroTergum saying it like that does make it better haha
Probably the same as a modern war where the ordinary soldier does all the fighting but the generals and politicians get all the credit.