The Largest Non-Sauropod Dinosaur Ever

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • The Duck-Billed Dinosaurs, also known as Hadrosaurs, are notorious for being chumps, but in reality they were extremely tough. And one way they were able to be tough, was through their size, as many hadrosaurs were actually giant, like the massive Shantungosaurus. This was actually the largest Hadrosaur ever, and roamed late Cretaceous China over 70 million years ago!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 633

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 Рік тому +700

    Wow. I knew the Shant was huge, I knew it was bigger than T-Rex, but when you see it next to a human you really get to see just how MASSIVE it really is.

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 4 місяці тому +45

    Hadrosaurs get depicted like dinosaur cows when they're really dinosaur mooses

    • @Kudyandare
      @Kudyandare 4 місяці тому +1

      Common cow slam moose

    • @altraxx9731
      @altraxx9731 2 місяці тому +5

      I see them more as giant zebras/donkeys; they prefer to flee from a predator, but when there’s no other option, they’ll fight back by kicking, wrestling, and biting.

    • @KyuuDesperation
      @KyuuDesperation 2 місяці тому +3

      Funnily enough, it should be the Ceratopsians that should be considered cows. I mean quite literally cows and bulls as such!

  • @mhdfrb9971
    @mhdfrb9971 Рік тому +346

    It's also the largest animal that capable of bipedalism ever exist

    • @sauron6977
      @sauron6977 Рік тому +51

      That's true, although they surely didn't move using only their hind quarters regularly, since they were facultative bipeds.
      The title of biggest "bipedal" that we know of belongs to Tyrannosaurus.

    • @gusfring6887
      @gusfring6887 Рік тому +13

      Hadrosaurs weren't true bipeds, they only switched to bipedalism when running

    • @sauron6977
      @sauron6977 Рік тому +68

      @@gusfring6887 True, but still that makes Shantungosaurus the biggest animal capable of bipedalism that we know of,as stated by the original comment.

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 Рік тому +47

      ​@@gusfring6887
      CAPABLE of bipedalism

    • @mhdfrb9971
      @mhdfrb9971 Рік тому +13

      @@gusfring6887 I didn't said that hadrosaurs are obligate bipedal

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 Рік тому +167

    This creature is an Isle favorite and (mostly thanks to TheGamingBeaver) is often nicknamed Shants or Shanties.

    • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
      @ZeFroz3n0ne907 Рік тому +24

      Right! Got my butt handed to me by my friend playing as a shant while I was a T-Rex. I got T-Wrecked. 😆

    • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
      @ZeFroz3n0ne907 Рік тому +10

      Whenever we played on the Death Match servers, if you could, you would have been swimming in the blood of many a dinosaur that fell to the Shant.

    • @ToaArcan
      @ToaArcan Рік тому +10

      Shants are fucking terrifying.

    • @snoom3350
      @snoom3350 Рік тому +1

      I love the Isle's pedophile developers!

    • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
      @ZeFroz3n0ne907 Рік тому +7

      @@snoom3350 What? Seriously?

  • @nono9543
    @nono9543 Рік тому +491

    I hear a lot of people on forums complaining about how "The T.Rex is weaker now" and I couldn't disagree more. If anything the T.Rex has gotten more powerful than previously assumed. With higher weight estimates, good durability feats, and increased intelligence estimates. It's just that every other animal it lived with was just as amazing as it was.
    We use to depict any dinosaur that wasn't the T.Rex as mere fodder, even as something as large as a sauropod was often portrayed as a "gentle giant" We are now beginning to understand that the world of the dinosaurs was more competitive than we could imagine. But what could you expect from animals that share a family with birds. Who are known for their aggressive competition.

    • @TheFoshaMan
      @TheFoshaMan Рік тому +106

      They don't share a familiy with birds, birds are a familiy inside them! which makes the Birds the last dinosaurs and the best ones considering they've survived any major extinction event since the triassic!

    • @nono9543
      @nono9543 Рік тому +40

      @@TheFoshaMan thanks for the correction

    • @ghaniKSW2
      @ghaniKSW2 Рік тому +55

      Fr every change and discovery we make on t rex just cements it as the perfect powerful predatory king of the dinosaurs (hell it even has a straight up keratin crown now)

    • @TheFoshaMan
      @TheFoshaMan Рік тому +35

      @@ghaniKSW2 A king with a crow, and his kingdom was the last Dino Kingdom, truly the best Theropod of the World

    • @denizen9998
      @denizen9998 Рік тому +2

      Very good!

  • @LeoTheYuty
    @LeoTheYuty Рік тому +124

    such a cool animal, the comparison to the brontosaurus is mind-boggling.

  • @dinohall2595
    @dinohall2595 Рік тому +184

    Glad to see this group of dinosaurs getting the attention it deserves! Everyone loves the theropods, sauropods and ceratopsians but the ornithopods, pachycephalosaurs and thyreophorans are too often overlooked.

  • @dxzeus
    @dxzeus Рік тому +42

    I saw a replica of Shantungosaurus at the Guangzhou Museum in China. The have it reared up on it's leg and you have to go to a higher floor to look at it's head. Even just the skeleton is massive.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому +3

      kinda have an idea since the iguandon specimens are in the old stance in brussels museum and on the second floor your level to their skulls...

  • @kade-qt1zu
    @kade-qt1zu Рік тому +88

    Well, since you covered the largest Hadrosaur, it would be fitting if you covered Tethyshadros, one of the smallest.

  • @bladehunter2747
    @bladehunter2747 Рік тому +48

    This is one of the few times that you will see the isle gets something right, this thing was damn well huge

    • @crunchybro123
      @crunchybro123 Рік тому +1

      Not really, it was smaller than a rex in the isle 😔
      I mean at least it’s not like how they made camarasaurus half its actual size or austroraptor around 1/10 it’s size

    • @BeegRanho
      @BeegRanho Рік тому +2

      ​​@@crunchybro123ustroraptor was big af for a dromaeosaurid, and poor camarasaurus... at least hes still strong.

    • @crunchybro123
      @crunchybro123 Рік тому +1

      @@BeegRanho fr

    • @vratti2236
      @vratti2236 Рік тому +5

      @@crunchybro123 Shatungosaurus smaller than t-rex in the isle? shatungo weights 11 tons and isle rex 5,8 tons so i think they are clearly much bigger

    • @crunchybro123
      @crunchybro123 Рік тому +1

      @@vratti2236 sorry yes it’s true but as usual the isle screwed up scaling so the shantungasaurus is for some reason smaller in size than a rex

  • @zadas1132
    @zadas1132 11 місяців тому +13

    Shantungosaurus size alone gives it almost 0 predators besides being injured, sick, old, or young. If it's very size intimidates predators imagine it's true strength and raw power. This thing is truly a beast.

  • @rosswhite-chinnery5725
    @rosswhite-chinnery5725 Рік тому +60

    As cool as this animal is, the part of the video which I can't stop focusing on is that it was described in 1973. I am trying to imagine what must it have been like for Xing and co trying to do paleontology in the middle of the Cultural Revolution.

    • @stevendorries
      @stevendorries Рік тому +16

      Holy shit, you’re right, that must have been crazy

    • @goldman77700
      @goldman77700 Рік тому +17

      That sounds wild as hell. He somehow survived the purge of intellectuals less than a decade earlier.

    • @royjacksonjr.4447
      @royjacksonjr.4447 10 місяців тому +4

      Yikes! Perhaps only finding THE LARGEST HADROSAUR EVER! saved them from a purge or re-education camp.😢

    • @GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
      @GlamStacheessnostalgialounge 10 місяців тому +1

      Mostly because life went on like normal for the vast majority of people. That's like saying that every american died on 9/11 or something.

  • @deathsnitemaresinfullust2269
    @deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 8 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for adding both feet And meters, I know what the conversation is but it's still nice to hear them both together making it far easier to imagine.
    😄👍

  • @daisypage9394
    @daisypage9394 Рік тому +7

    3:38 I love how the Rex in this image looks scared and shocked lol

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz Рік тому +12

    It’s so frustrating that everyone continues making the assumption that being an herbivore means it’s also a “gentle giant”… some of the most aggressive and dangerous animals on earth are herbivores-see cape buffalo and hippopotamus.
    Eating plants =/= being docile!

    • @averycheesypotato
      @averycheesypotato Рік тому +1

      Yup! Elephants can be gentle to each other, but can be very dangerous to humans

    • @Ealais76
      @Ealais76 Рік тому

      Yes but unlike those guys hadrosaurs usually have a first instinct to run, maybe a larger individual would fight(since predators wouldn’t go after it)

    • @averycheesypotato
      @averycheesypotato Рік тому

      @@Ealais76 Younger ones may have been more flighty, but there is safety in numbers. A whole herd running from a single predator doesn’t make much sense

    • @Ealais76
      @Ealais76 Рік тому

      @@averycheesypotato it does when you realize that a Rex is an ambush predator, if they run then the Rex has 0% chance of catching up, unlike modern mammals, most hadrosaurs greatly outsped their predators, which is how they survive. There’s a reason why they barely make it past their 1st year sometimes

    • @averycheesypotato
      @averycheesypotato Рік тому

      @@Ealais76 The rex would prefer to go after the young, sick or injured only. By standing together a group can protect the vulnerable. We see examples of this in modern animals.
      Bison, buffalo, horses- they will form a ring around their young when a predator approaches. If they are spooked enough they will flee, but try to maintain those positions as they run

  • @ohgary
    @ohgary 11 місяців тому +3

    You weigh sixteen tons and what do you get? Another day older and…extinct.

  • @radiodont4028
    @radiodont4028 Рік тому +12

    I tried to attack this thing while playing as a T. Rex in The Isle. That was a mistake.

  • @mohnplayz8859
    @mohnplayz8859 Рік тому +30

    As a huge dinosaur nerd, i can confirm hadrosaurs were very strong dinosaurs

  • @Michael-ih2hl
    @Michael-ih2hl Рік тому +2

    That was an awesome video! Subscribed!

  • @NextToToddliness
    @NextToToddliness Рік тому +41

    Hadrosaurs always fascinate me, as I find them to be so unique and interesting-looking. My favorite hadrosaurids were the Lambeosaurs.
    Side note: I've never neen a fan of the idea that theropods hunted in packs. There's scant evidence of this in both reptiles and birds. Though some cooperative hunting happens in a very small group of raptorial birds, it is the exception, and not the rule. Furthermore, the running hypothesis on why animals hunt in groups has to do with the area they live in, as we find that almost all pack-hunting animals on Earth right now developed & live in the Afrotropical realm, and this is due to environmental factors that create a disparaging gap in food availability. Animals have to hunt in packs in order to secure food they wouldn't be able to find by themselves.

    • @NextToToddliness
      @NextToToddliness Рік тому +1

      @@sauron6977 Bush Dogs aren't Dinosaurs.

    • @robbie356
      @robbie356 Рік тому

      olorotitan is my favorite hadrosaur

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 Рік тому

      @@NextToToddliness given that non avian dinosaurs did exist for 150 million years I say it's likely some theropods hunted in groups but this would be the rare exception, not the norm as is commonly depicted. though mobbing behavior similar to komodo dragons and crocodilians seems more common.

  • @elblaise5618
    @elblaise5618 Рік тому +14

    One thing I’d like to hear more about is the effect mass has on dinosaurs as they enter old age. In our modern age predators rarely prey upon the healthy, instead going after the young, old, and sick. Listening to this video I wonder how this hadrosaurs body would have been changed by it’s girth as it approached old age and the physical degradation that is inherent to aging.

    • @hircenedaelen
      @hircenedaelen Рік тому +7

      Much like the effect aging has on elephants I imagine

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 4 місяці тому

      I assume things like arthritis and other joint and bone problems took a serious tole on elderly individuals.

  • @afrovenatorprime3001
    @afrovenatorprime3001 Рік тому +8

    The only beef you don't dare to mess with.

  • @superxavxii421
    @superxavxii421 11 місяців тому +5

    Hadrosaurus are usually fodder in movies but imagine how much of a fight most of them put up. Especially if they grew to be that big

    • @neganrex5693
      @neganrex5693 8 місяців тому

      It would need to put up a fight because apex predators often took down pray twice their size.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому +4

      the movies make them look weak and they never fight back...also the documentaries are even worse making them the size of an large bull or an ox when some were bigger than an elephant...

  • @sonarianjeff4736
    @sonarianjeff4736 Рік тому +4

    Jurassic park hadrosaurs:small weak free food. In real life:Strong and huge herbivores that could kill many large theropods.

    • @WhyTho525
      @WhyTho525 5 місяців тому

      Lmao we barely saw Hadrosaurs in action in any JP/JW film how can you say that?

  • @happybalint
    @happybalint Рік тому +28

    Honestly herbivores being this large makes sense. We know for a fact that predators like T.Rex were huge and with that massive size, they needed a lot of food. Given how they were built it is unlikely that they were hunting several small dinos instead of going for one big prey item.

  • @An-kw3ec
    @An-kw3ec Рік тому +13

    This dinosaur was big in all aspects, compared with brontosaurus makes me realize how much of their size was just neck and tail, while shantungosaurus and t-rex were all pure muscle and head.

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 Місяць тому

      Eh. Nah, Brontosaurus was still huge in body and muscle too. Even if you got rid of the neck and tail, it’d still be a larger animal.

    • @An-kw3ec
      @An-kw3ec Місяць тому

      If you compare body size shatungo looks very large, this also happens among sauropods, the largest specimens of Camarasaurus look larger than Diplodocus, because their heads and legs look more massive, despite the second being longer.

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 Місяць тому

      @@An-kw3ec I think its also worth noting that the side profile of the animal is deceptive. If you turned Shantungosaurus to face you head on you’d find that, despite being long and tall, hadrosaurs are remarkably narrow animals width-wise.
      A lot of the mass in Sauropods on the other hand is hidden in the fact that they are comparably quite wide animals.

  • @itsahostiletakeover
    @itsahostiletakeover 11 місяців тому +3

    Hadrosaurs are my favorite group of dinosaurs going back to childhood, so awesome video! 👏 On your final note, I think it's important to acknowledge that even though Shantungosaurus didn't quite make it to the K-PG boundary, hadrosaurs continued to truly thrive in that area of modern day China/Russia. At least three lambeosaurines (Olorotitan, Charonosaurus, Amurosaurus) and two saurolophines (Kerberosaurus and Wulagasaurus) were living there near the extinction event. Quite the contrast to North America where Edmontosaurus seems to be the sole dominant hadrosaur we know of...whatever caused Shantungosaurus' extinction, it doesn't seem to have effected other hadrosaurs' success in that area of the world at least. I'd be fascinated to know what factors caused such a drastic difference in species diversity.

  • @kakapokid1796
    @kakapokid1796 Рік тому +15

    Hadrosaurs are painfully underrated

    • @bagheerakiplingi2037
      @bagheerakiplingi2037 9 місяців тому

      Overrated*

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 Місяць тому

      @@bagheerakiplingi2037 Underrated* they’re perpetually depicted as helpless predator fodder. As if everyone forgets that these were elephant sized animals or larger.

    • @bagheerakiplingi2037
      @bagheerakiplingi2037 Місяць тому

      @@Saurophaganax1931 overrated because size isn’t all

    • @Saurophaganax1931
      @Saurophaganax1931 Місяць тому

      @@bagheerakiplingi2037 but I mean literally nobody overrates them. They are the stars of no movies. They’re no child's favourite dinosaur. They die without a fight in almost every dinosaur documentary and videogame, often to predators who would have no chance of killing one. They are perpetually underrated.

    • @bagheerakiplingi2037
      @bagheerakiplingi2037 Місяць тому

      @@Saurophaganax1931 I am talking about how overrated they’re in fights because their weapons are to scare predators but can’t kill

  • @heathen6165
    @heathen6165 Рік тому +1

    Superb information. Thank you

  • @The-Black-Death
    @The-Black-Death Місяць тому +1

    My theory on the (Edmontosaurus alternative), is that they evolved to be larger because predators kept exclusively hunting the smaller of their species of time, resulting in only the largest and healthiest to typically survive to pass on their genes to the next generation, whereas the runts or smallest kept getting picked off.

  • @thed-rex098
    @thed-rex098 11 місяців тому +3

    As a geology major going towards paleontology, I knew hadrosaurs got big, but that being said, this just took me 100% and more by surprise 😱🤯 man do I love paleontology we get to learn and know cool stuff like this 🙌🙌🙌

  • @chadgorosaurus4898
    @chadgorosaurus4898 Рік тому +7

    The people who say "hadrosaurs are weak" forgot how big and muscular they were.

    • @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
      @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 Рік тому

      It's large zebras

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому +1

      idk how anyone can come to that conclusion ,even a 6m hadrosaur would be strong as an ox at least ...just look at the femur bones and its skeletal structure as a whole...

  • @aoholox1961
    @aoholox1961 11 місяців тому +1

    respect to the camera man for going back in time and making this educational video👍👍👍👍👌👌

  • @naturalistwarrior
    @naturalistwarrior Рік тому +9

    Shantungosaurus - What a Whopper!

  • @jamesivie5717
    @jamesivie5717 Рік тому +2

    Good video!

  • @f.u.m.o.5669
    @f.u.m.o.5669 Рік тому +3

    Thanks, Shantungosaurus is one of my favs

  • @CJ-111
    @CJ-111 8 місяців тому

    I like this sort of content. Especially animals I’ve never heard of

  • @royjacksonjr.4447
    @royjacksonjr.4447 10 місяців тому +2

    A Hadrosaur fossil proved for me once and for all that T. rex was a hunter: a partially-healed, Tyrannosaur- tooth-shaped hole in an Edmontosaurus' caudal vertebra.

  • @bignelly9476
    @bignelly9476 4 місяці тому +1

    Shout out to Edmontosauras for also being an absolutely massive hadrosaur that lived at and was roughly the same size as Mr T.Rex

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome Рік тому +1

    Great video.

  • @mitchellskene8176
    @mitchellskene8176 Рік тому +5

    I had always thought Hypsibema was the largest Hadrosaur. I learned something new today!! 🙂

    • @mitchellskene8176
      @mitchellskene8176 11 місяців тому

      @@Dinoquaoar-ts6lj Hypsibema crassicauda messaures between 45 and 49 ft in length. That's a lot bigger than 10m.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому

      iv no doubt alot of the big hadrosaurs reach 17m as adults ,some photos iv seen they tower over the 6ft2 guy ...

  • @agente9988
    @agente9988 Рік тому +2

    Those who play The Isle know that Shants are no joke a true champion.

  • @The_Story_Of_Us
    @The_Story_Of_Us Рік тому +7

    Given that T-Rex lived on another continent and the asian Tyrannosaurs didn't really stack up in size, quite possibly this was a Hadrosaur without natural predators.

    • @juiceart9199
      @juiceart9199 Рік тому +5

      Atleast in adulthood, young individuals may have been targeted, similar to modern bison calves being taken by coyotes, wolves, cougars and bears when they are left unattended

    • @jeremyfong5684
      @jeremyfong5684 11 місяців тому

      Tarbosaurus?

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому +1

      tarbosaurus did reach large sizes and is known to have been to 12m in the largest specimens usually based on the largest skulls and a few larger skulls from private collections....still it was slimmer than t rex but the skulls were more robust and larger than any other tyrannosaur except for t rex..

    • @The_Story_Of_Us
      @The_Story_Of_Us 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jackstraw4222 that would be the largest possible sizes. I dunno about the 12m figure, but it could check out given that the largest skulls are almost the same length as Sue's, of course a T-Rex known to be 12.4 meters in length. Your average Tarbosaur would still be around 10 meters and 5 tons, significantly smaller than the average size for Tyrannosaurus Rex. The biggest T-Rex skulls for reference would scale to an adult about 13.6 meters long, so there are always outliers.

  • @thedragonthatlovesskittles7132

    I love this species, shatungasaurus 4 life

  • @giganfan997
    @giganfan997 Рік тому +1

    Holy shit! I've heard of this dino, but I didn't realize that it was bigger than even T-rex! That's insane

  • @colinmathura-jeffree9829
    @colinmathura-jeffree9829 Рік тому +3

    I've always loved Hadrosaurs

  • @corvair5454
    @corvair5454 9 місяців тому +1

    What a damn unit that is

  • @Spag419
    @Spag419 Рік тому +5

    Tyrannosaurus had to get big somehow, and it wasn't be regularly slaughtering tiny animals. Only something so large could serve as a on-the-go larder for such massive predators. They really owe their success to having the food be so big, and being strong enough to kill the food.

    • @BeegRanho
      @BeegRanho Рік тому +8

      But like all those tipe of predators, he must be carefull with hes own food.

    • @Spag419
      @Spag419 Рік тому +5

      ​@@BeegRanhoDefinitely! No pushovers themselves, it ensures natural selection so only the strongest and most successful predators continue to thrive. The weak ones get stomped

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 Рік тому

      ​@@Spag419yesh

    • @Rmyauh
      @Rmyauh Рік тому

      @@Spag419orca victim

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 Рік тому

      @@Spag419 that's not how natural selection works.

  • @cro-magnoncarol4017
    @cro-magnoncarol4017 Рік тому +10

    The truth is, we don't really know how big Zhuchengtyrannus could get since it's only known from very fragmentary material. Most estimates place it as slightly smaller than Tarbosaurus, but based on the massive size of the herbivores in the Xingezhuang Formation like Shantungosaurus & Sinoceratops I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushing Tyrannosaurus-size...

    • @kingtiger6155
      @kingtiger6155 Рік тому +8

      who knows maybe there is an even bigger theropod that we havent discoverd yet

    • @juiceart9199
      @juiceart9199 Рік тому +3

      It's also a commonly mistaken idea that larger predators take larger prey. Brown Bears in North America are some of the largest terrestrial predators on earth, and in times where other nutritional sources are depleted, they will take caribou with surprising effectiveness. This is opposed to wolves and cougars, who regularly clock in at less than a fifth of the weight of the smallest brown bears. Both wolves *and* cougars obligatorily rely on prey populations of animals that can handily weigh over ten times their own weight, such as elk and moose. It's also possible it's like a bison or elephant scenario, where the adults are immune to any form of predation, but often fall to the elements, or their young may be vulnerable enough to be regularly taken by predators in their environment. Tyrannosaurus rex is very similar to a tiger in ways, where it likely primarily hunted animals of similar weight, while avoiding giants like triceratops or anatosaurus out of self preservation.

    • @cro-magnoncarol4017
      @cro-magnoncarol4017 Рік тому

      @@juiceart9199 Brown/Grizzly Bears are omnivores so they're not really the best comparison. You have to remember the North American ecosystem is a shadow of its former self before the megafaunal collapse, if it was Bison would be filling a similar niche to modern Cape Buffalo on the African Plains. Hyenas & Wild Dogs can bring down Buffalo but almost NEVER healthy adults.
      Bison's primary predators were probably Saber cats & large Pantherine cats that have since died out.

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 Рік тому +1

      @@juiceart9199 bison aren't exactly immune to predation, and we know T. rex did hunt full grown triceratops and edmontosaurus based on healed bite wounds from both genera.

    • @cro-magnoncarol4017
      @cro-magnoncarol4017 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Dinoquaoar-ts6lj Actually there has been either a reexamination or additional finds of Sinoceratops that have size buffed it to 7.8 meters & 5.7 tons, which would make it the largest Centrosaurine Ceratopsian yet known & would make it almost Triceratops-sized.

  • @usmanya5110
    @usmanya5110 Рік тому +4

    i heard that there's a possibilty of E. Annecten could outsize Shant by abit. but i'm not sure about that. the largest specimen of E.Annectens we know is X-rex.

    • @Ealais76
      @Ealais76 Рік тому

      X-rex does outscale current shant estimates, but ofc he’s not the norm

    • @kensei1912
      @kensei1912 Рік тому

      @@Ealais76I thought X-rex is around the same size as a shant not bigger, 15m vs 15-16m

  • @tm43977
    @tm43977 Рік тому +8

    A Giant hadrosaur shantungosaurus

  • @gatovillano7009
    @gatovillano7009 5 місяців тому

    It makes sense that these dinausors became so large: Most of the energy that a living organism utilises is for homeostasis. A large animal needs less energy for homeostasis, compared to its weight, than a smaller animal. Herbavors need to spend every waking hour eating plants to survive. Thus being bigger is useful, energy wise, for herbavors.
    This is why we have huge herbavors even today: cows, elephants, rinos...

  • @sauraplay2095
    @sauraplay2095 9 місяців тому

    Great video extinct zoo!

  • @jaredmuntean7817
    @jaredmuntean7817 11 місяців тому +1

    It’s crazy how fucking insane the herbivores were in the Cretaceous period. Just goes to show that Tyrannosaurus Rex must have been an absolute freak of nature to hunt these things.😂😂😂😂

  • @user-mi8ld3un4v
    @user-mi8ld3un4v Рік тому +1

    In savanna, you can easily see antelopes which are larger then apex predators. Kudus or elands are really huge.

  • @bustavonnutz
    @bustavonnutz Рік тому +10

    Excellent presentation, two things to note about the Shant though:
    1) Never trust the size approximations of composite animals. I highly expect its size estimate to change once more fossil remains are found.
    2) Because its remains are so scarce & localized, it's possible that Shants survived until the end of the Cretaceous, but we just don't have fossil evidence for it.

    • @camacakegd3714
      @camacakegd3714 Рік тому +5

      Maybe. But we have more complete remains of closely related species, I think the estimations are decent.

    • @Ozraptor4
      @Ozraptor4 Рік тому +6

      I'd hardly call Shantungosaurus scarce given that it is known from well over 100 individuals in Chinese museum collections (Based on femora, there are a minimum of 55 Shantungosaurus individuals at the Kugou Quarry alone). That's vastly more material than most non-avian dinosaurs.

    • @juiceart9199
      @juiceart9199 Рік тому

      I agree that the initial estimates are probably off by a wide margin, but specimens of the good ol shant are far from rare, now, and a 50 foot estimate clocking in at over 16 tons isn't beyond imagination, and based on proportions compared to closely related hadrosaurs, it seems to be a pretty conservative weight to decide on.

  • @FrshJurassicPrnceYA
    @FrshJurassicPrnceYA 25 днів тому

    Huaxiaosaurus and Zhuchengosaurus were even larger than Shantungosaurus. They are both classified as synonyms of Shantungosaurus, however, it's possible that they represent two distinct genera of Hadrosaurs. Huaxiaosaurus in particular has been estimated to be 19-20 meters (62-66ft) in length and close to 30 tons. 😳
    Of course these sizes might be exaggerated, but just imagine if there were Hadrosaurs that big!

  • @MonsterZero521
    @MonsterZero521 Рік тому +1

    Nice

  • @nathanpvzthegreatdinosaur
    @nathanpvzthegreatdinosaur Рік тому

    Wow! Interesting.

  • @bazpearce9993
    @bazpearce9993 Рік тому +1

    I would imagine this thing would use headbutting as a form of defence. Taking advantage of it's size. This thing would have hit like a semi.

  • @haydennotenboom9103
    @haydennotenboom9103 7 місяців тому

    Shant both intimidating and beautiful

  • @sethnaffziger1402
    @sethnaffziger1402 Рік тому +8

    Similar to today, apex predators are still several if not many times smaller than their herbivorous counterparts. this is how animals like giraffes and elephants escape becoming prey to prides of lions. What they lack in specialized fighting prowess they make up for with sheer size and force. I'm glad you took the time to rectify the pop culture understanding of the duck bills, as one such representation from my childhood i think just called dinosaurs would have had you believe that Carnotaurus was an absolute unit capable of killing the largest hadrosaurs with relative ease, ragdolling smaller specimens like a mink kills rats

    • @Why79-dx4rf
      @Why79-dx4rf Рік тому

      While this is generally true, its important to note this isnt always the case. For instance the largest animal in the Everglades is the American crocodile. For another example, the largest animal in the Amazon is the black caiman. All this is to say, their are always exceptions to every rule.

    • @IndominusRex-wc1ey
      @IndominusRex-wc1ey Рік тому +1

      ​@@Why79-dx4rfaren't American crocodiles larger than gators though?

    • @Why79-dx4rf
      @Why79-dx4rf Рік тому +1

      @@IndominusRex-wc1ey yes, that is why I said American crocodiles were the largest animal in the Everglades.

    • @IndominusRex-wc1ey
      @IndominusRex-wc1ey Рік тому

      @@Why79-dx4rf i swear to fuck my dumbass read that was American alligator I'm sorry LMAO

    • @pedroroque829
      @pedroroque829 Рік тому

      @@Why79-dx4rf Crocodiles are semi aquatic tho.

  • @kmorris9098
    @kmorris9098 11 місяців тому

    Well done video! And I think it would be even better if the word "Brontosaurus" at @2:16 was updated to an Apatosaurus? Thanks!

    • @ExtremeMadnessX
      @ExtremeMadnessX 5 місяців тому +1

      Brontosaurus is a valid species again.

    • @kmorris9098
      @kmorris9098 5 місяців тому

      @@ExtremeMadnessX how?

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Рік тому +3

    3:25 OK I wouldn’t go that far of a hadrosaur, biting the neck out of a poor tyrannosaur. In my opinion I would probably just use its sheer size and stomp the crap out of the tyrannosaur, or use its massive tail, or it would kick in on a fly kick like a zebra, but it would kick like we see in the video game path of titans if you get the edmontosaurus mod

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Рік тому +1

      Or knock the theropod down and trample it to death.

    • @tyrannotherium7873
      @tyrannotherium7873 Рік тому +1

      @@beastmaster0934 yeah if the tyrannosaurus is offguard

  • @blaircolquhoun7780
    @blaircolquhoun7780 5 місяців тому

    I never heard of it until now.

  • @maxmazzotti6651
    @maxmazzotti6651 Рік тому +4

    Very cool video about Shantungosaurus. Now cover Magnapaulia, the largest Lambeosaurine Hadrosaur

  • @AZOTH_the_Weeb
    @AZOTH_the_Weeb 11 місяців тому +1

    I remamber soing this thing as a kid in dinosaur king for the first time and was just blown away by how huge it was. I remains as one of my favorite dinosaurs. I was also realy happy when I turned on Isle and it was there to play. All other hadrosaurs were always just prey in like everything I ever watched as a kid, but this thing. Man even like 8 year old me knew that this bigass mf is no snack for the first rex that shows its ugly head.

  • @TheFandomPuppeteerist
    @TheFandomPuppeteerist 4 місяці тому

    As a path player I immediately recognized that thumbnail

  • @stuartwhitehead3167
    @stuartwhitehead3167 Рік тому +2

    Can't forget about Lambeosaurus. There are several specimens in the 50 ft plus range as well.

    • @elmohead
      @elmohead Рік тому

      Lambeosaurus, Shantungsaurus and Ouranosaurus I think top 3.

    • @Ealais76
      @Ealais76 Рік тому

      @@elmoheadourano doesn’t even come close. Top 3 on average are Shant, Hypacro, and charono. Though edmonto can get larger than all 3

    • @Ozraptor4
      @Ozraptor4 Рік тому +1

      Giant lambeosaur is now called Magnapaulia.

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 Рік тому

      @@elmohead Ouanosaurus was an iguanodontid.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому

      also there a large edmontosaurus skull in the museum of rockies and a lesser known hadrosaur footprint at 1.25m mentioned in older books...

  • @wither5673
    @wither5673 7 місяців тому

    A heard of these things stampeding would have been a force of nature, good lord.

  • @BeegRanho
    @BeegRanho Рік тому +1

    I like em big, I like em chunky
    Woow shant, youre HUGE
    -Moto Moto

  • @demoncore5342
    @demoncore5342 Рік тому +5

    It's just so silly to assume an animal without obvious weapons would be defenseless. Like horses rely mostly on speed, but still can put out hell of a fight. No horns, claws or spiked tail... Even your average size hadrosaur would be dangerous by its power and bulk alone.

    • @juiceart9199
      @juiceart9199 Рік тому +1

      De-horned rhinos are just as immune to predation as their horned counterparts. Sometimes being big and hard to bite into is more than enough.

    • @Paul_DeGuzman23
      @Paul_DeGuzman23 11 місяців тому

      ​@@juiceart9199let's not forget that getting rammed by a hadrosaur or rhino would feel like getting hit by a truck

  • @widodoakrom3938
    @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому +12

    Well seems like the T-Rex also pretty big this ones could be around 10 tons

    • @juiceart9199
      @juiceart9199 Рік тому +1

      Think closer to 16, more likely 20

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 Рік тому +2

      @@juiceart9199 20 is unlikely. most estimates put Scotty as just under 9 tons.

  • @GlobalWarmingDragon
    @GlobalWarmingDragon Рік тому +1

    Yooo you actually saw my comment

  • @EarthshakerOnamazu
    @EarthshakerOnamazu Рік тому +1

    yo can you make a Zhuchengtyrannus video?

  • @aharttsx8019
    @aharttsx8019 Рік тому +1

    Thumbnail: 16 TONs
    My Brain: (in subterranean voice) and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt
    In all seriousness and more on topic tho, it's always nice to see content that shows that herbivores just arent walking slabs of meat waiting to be eaten by carnivores. Many of them were strong af and incredibly dangerous for even the biggest of carnivores to hunt.

  • @Goofy_goober6704
    @Goofy_goober6704 Рік тому +3

    the “gentle giant” phrase is not that accurate, herbivores of a large size usually have a bad temper, and will aggressively deal with predators, take hippos for example.

  • @dinaraharding7347
    @dinaraharding7347 Рік тому +1

    Hadrasaurs are my favourite group of dinosaurs mostly iguanodon

  • @DinoFan1993
    @DinoFan1993 8 місяців тому

    I love Shantungosaurus

  • @nickcharles1284
    @nickcharles1284 3 місяці тому

    Does it bug anyone else that human/dinosaur size comparison graphics always show the dinosaur larger to much larger than it should be?

  • @josereyesbonilla4004
    @josereyesbonilla4004 Рік тому +1

    I would love to see this in Jurassic World Evolution 2. It’ll be called “Bigger is better!”😂

  • @jackgould5332
    @jackgould5332 11 місяців тому +2

    Yeah in the old dinosaur shows t rex is always destroying the hadrosaurs but in reality they'd be more of a challenge and even t rex would be apprehensive about attacking a large group of them

    • @neganrex5693
      @neganrex5693 8 місяців тому

      A 9 ton T-Rex wouldn't have a problem with it.

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 3 місяці тому

      ​@@neganrex5693meanwhile ed with 13-15 tons

  • @roderickreilly9666
    @roderickreilly9666 Рік тому +2

    16 tons, but was it also deeper in debt to the company store?

    • @pescando
      @pescando Рік тому

      St Meteor don’t call me cause I can’t goooo

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 4 місяці тому

    I wonder if Edmontosaurus reached similar sizes to Shantungosaurus, or even larger, since T.rex was much larger than Tarbosaurus and Zuchengtyrannus.

  • @Noctazar
    @Noctazar 11 місяців тому

    When you play The Isle and immediately recognize Shant before the video even starts

  • @daniyalshah4338
    @daniyalshah4338 Рік тому

    Love from england

  • @SinkoDino
    @SinkoDino Рік тому +3

    Yoooooo

  • @panshakes
    @panshakes 3 місяці тому

    1:09 the area it was found even looks like a hadrosaur 😭😭😭

  • @tomcross3000
    @tomcross3000 Рік тому +1

    Olorititan and magnapaulia are also very decent runners up in weight and size, they seemed to be similar looking anatomically to the earliest stages of sauropods like plateosaurus and anchisaurus? So maybe hadrosaurs are the full circle answer to sauropods.

    • @tomcross3000
      @tomcross3000 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Dinoquaoar-ts6lj it seemed I was mistaken on olorotitan I must’ve been thinking of another duckbilled. but Magna is 15 metres long and 5 m off the ground in a normal four legged walking state, goodness knows how high it reared, probably 6. The mass though must be more than they’ve estimated, at least 7 tonnes looking at it.
      Saurolophus. In Mongolia, 13 m long and 7 tonnes they say. That must’ve been the other I was thinking of

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 місяців тому +1

      iv seen olorititan in the brussels museum and its just slightly smaller than the t rex its displayed next to...the iguanodon specimens are equally as impressive ..

    • @tomcross3000
      @tomcross3000 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jackstraw4222 lambeosaurus- so forget olorititan, lambeo could reach 15 metres long, that's 2 more than t rex, and probably standing taller.
      and saurolophus is at a dead heat with t rex in size.

  • @TeethToothman
    @TeethToothman Рік тому +2

    🖤⚡🖤

  • @jeangab536
    @jeangab536 Рік тому +2

    t rex where lions and shantungausaur buffallos of that era

    • @hugomas5207
      @hugomas5207 Рік тому +3

      Diría más bien que el búfalo sería Edmontosaurus y shant un hipopótamo por la diferencia de tamaño.

    • @connorwade9417
      @connorwade9417 Рік тому +4

      Probably more like grizzlies for the T. rex and bison for a Edmontosaurus, kind of like what @hugomas5207 said.

    • @hugomas5207
      @hugomas5207 Рік тому +2

      @@connorwade9417 Exactamente.

  • @gregwilliams853
    @gregwilliams853 11 місяців тому

    Impressive animal, probably about the only time the predators of the time feasted on one of these giants was if a predator came across a dead or close to dead animal, rather like lions do with the large pachyderms today, or if a youngster got separated from the herd

  • @Spino256
    @Spino256 11 місяців тому +1

    They had predators but they failed to hunt them cuz of their massive size, the predators who messed with them probably got injured.

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu Рік тому +4

    Predators always prefer making smaller, less dangerous creatures their prey. There is no sense for a predator to tackle a creature that might injure them severely. So evolution tends to produce larger herbivores who live in an environment with dangerous predators. Those predators look for smaller prey and this allows the bigger ones to survive. Over time this causes herbivores to get larger. It's not quite this simple but the basic principle seems to be a reasonable hypothesis.

    • @MunkyDrag0n
      @MunkyDrag0n Рік тому +2

      On the flipside, predators can grow larger due to the existence of larger prey that can sustain them. Although a very large herbivore would be risky for a predator if fighting fit or protected in a herd, a lone one that is very young, very old, sick, or injured could have enough meat to sustain a predator for weeks and be relatively easy to take down. Prey animals have various tactics to make sure only the fittest of the herd survive. Those too weak to keep up with the herd or young with any detectible defects are sacrificed to predators so that the herd may get reprieve from getting stalked. On the other side, predators become ever stronger or develop sophisticated tactics to take advantage of any individual with weakness. Solitary predators favor sheer size and strength. Pack hunters favor speed, stamina, skill, and society to take out prey much larger and stronger than themselves. Death by a thousand cuts.

    • @juiceart9199
      @juiceart9199 Рік тому +1

      ​@@MunkyDrag0n
      A very strange fictionalization of actual evolutionary forces. Rarely do predatory animals grow beyond a certain point to take larger prey, as animals that are within reason to hunt at smaller sizes solitarily will always be more energetically efficient. Even in our modern world, bears are huge not for being able to take larger prey, they generally take smaller prey than other, less massive solitary predators would, such as cougars and jaguars. Usually, predatory animals attain larger sizes in order to hunt less often, and to create a buffer between themselves and starvation if times of low abundance occur. Factors like this show just how many factors are in play, and size for size's sake is usually a losing strategy.

    • @pukulu
      @pukulu Рік тому +1

      @@MunkyDrag0n I have a good friend who decided to learn evolutionary biology after she retired. She taught sociology at California State University, Fullerton for 32 years. She loves Scholarly discussions like this.

    • @monstersandmachines
      @monstersandmachines Рік тому

      Didn't Mapusaurus hunt sauropods?

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 Рік тому +1

      ​@@monstersandmachinesnot proved..

  • @profilenotfound2525
    @profilenotfound2525 4 місяці тому

    Trex killer right here

  • @skullrum7893
    @skullrum7893 Рік тому +1

    Huaxiaosaurus aigahtens its the XL version of Shantungosaurus

  • @Hornisserus
    @Hornisserus Рік тому

    Hadrosaurs are cool. Parasaurolopus one love. ^_^

  • @scorpiovenator_4736
    @scorpiovenator_4736 4 місяці тому

    Surprisingly Paleoloxodon Namadicus was larger at 20-22 tons

  • @DinoMan_6
    @DinoMan_6 Рік тому +1

    When ducks were the mightiest.

  • @shanevinzant6935
    @shanevinzant6935 Рік тому +1

    New favorite herbivore