Let's be real white man thought he had more right then others and when he got corrected it was a issue. This Revolutionary ass whooping was needed. Your not above anyone definitely not above any other race this push back will always happen. Do on to other as you want Done on to you
Dude that came down the ramp and broke it up, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd done work as a bouncer at a club or something. The way he used his whole body and shut it down quick was great
Yes he's the real hero should have ended then. NOT the boy swimming. Here's my view on the boy. He's 16 and should remain anonymous. But people about to be very upset when feds break it down from start to finish. Other than him swimming to defend another human being. He made things so much worse. The fight had been broken up before he got out the water. Hes then worked up by the crowd and takes it upon himself to do something. He carry out a dangerous rock bottom on someone who never laid a hand on anyone, then proceeds to stamp on his head with 1 other man. When that man's wife trys to pull them off he knocks her to the ground. Clearly lapping up the crowd with a dangerous immature mentality. Been better off staying on the boat
@@Matt_0G that's the conundrum about street fights. Who gets to decide when the fight is over? If someone is retreating but the other person is still raging, is the fight still happening? At least with sanctioned combat sports, there is a bell that signals the end of a fight.
@@phanatic215 yes, it was a right mess. Sadly everyone now relying on finding fault with every white person cause currently left with revenge attacks on the wrong peolle
Police are going to be talking about this for years. They will also have a lot more than we do. After action reports, investigations, court cases, et cetera.
@@hard2hurtthere is *a lot* more information and context that you don't know and it is currently available. There's multiple recordings from different angles and there's been an interview with the captain of the commercial boat who works on the riverfront. He provided even more information prior to the recording and even historical context from years back. 1) The people on the pontoon were the *ATTACKERS.* 2) The people on the pontoon parked their boat illegally and have been told *MULTIPLE* times to move their boat so that the large commercial boat can park. They refused and even flipped off the captain. 3) They purposefully left their private boat parked there illegally and left to go eat and drink. That's how entitled and brazen they were. 4) Instead of towing their boat and giving them a fine, the man they will eventually attack and jump, who works for the riverfront, simply moved it out of the parking zone of the commercial boat. 5) The people in the pontoon have prior history of belligerent acts. This isn't their first time being belligerent, entitled and hostile. 6) The guy in blue in the beginning who was a 16 year-old crewmember. 7) The person swimming was also a 16 year-old crewmember who was in the commercial boat watching the violent pontoon people attack and jump the *INNOCENT* man from beginning. 8) Again, the people in that pontoon have a history of harassment down there on the riverfront. The police refused to take serious action in the past. They could have prevented these people from causing the attack that occurred that day. 9) The people in the pontoon were not _"radicalized by the violence"_ as they have been inherently violent and have been *ENTITLED* due to never facing consequences for their misdeeds for years by being able to harass the people on the riverfront with no to little repercussions from law enforcement. And this is despite the crewmembers calling the police and filing reports on them.
🗣Repent Israelites all praise to the most high YAHAWAH AND HIS SON YAHAWASHI🤴🏽🦁🔥🛸⌛️ The so called black man, Latino, and Native Americans are the Israelites. Yahawah chosen people. That are scattered in all nations through our fathers. Making them Israelite foreigners/Scattered sheep/The multitude. Yahawashi speaking: Matthew 15:24 “But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Deuteronomy 7:6 “For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 32:39 “See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.” Luke 12:51 “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
The co-captain was trying (with a bullhorn) to get them away from the reserved dock for his ferry for 45 minutes. No excuses. Hat toss was his official notice that I am off the clock and no longer a representative of the company.
I honestly always absolutely love when Mike watches and reacts some for real "street fight" be it funny or serious ones and talks about the situation. There's just something so satisfying and instructive about it
"Alabama Riverboat Brawl" is a badass title to this throwdown, they should make it an annual thing for charities and make it a heritage site. I wanna see more whoopass and inept confrontations.
Hey my guy, since im the first person here for the first time ever, i wanna say that youve "taught"/helped me be more confident in life through being confident in my body, you were one of the people who pushed me to that, thank you ❤
@hard2hurt you should already know that more people than me take inspiration and confidence from your experience and perspective. keep doing what you've been doing because there are many people who should hear what you have to say. Thank you again ❤️🫡 (And if you didn't know, now you know☺️)
One thing I learn from these videos and others like it is that everyone pretty much does the same things, and it's never like how a lot of these "self defense guys" act like it is. People always say in street fights there are no rules but that's actually not true. Very rarely do you see eye gouging and biting. But what do you see? Shoving and grappling. People I think have certain intuitions about how they should behave in these situations and seem to act accordingly.
Agreed. But we should also be careful to distinguish between social and anti social violence. Most self defense dorks train for anti social violence which is the extreme minority of violence, and in that kind of violence we would expect a higher level of violence compared to what we see here (although as a whole, I don’t think I’ve ever seen much in the way of eye gouging in the streets) This is social violence. This is that primitive part of our brain going “I’ve/my group has been disrespected and I’m going to posture and shout and throw ineffectual slaps and grab things”. And it shows in how few injuries there were overall. Our instincts on social violence are literally evolved to not be super injurious because the goal isn’t to murder the opposition, it’s to establish dominance and respect. (It’s the same shit you see with deer that fight. You’ll notice it’s rare for them to actually injure one another because they have to partake in it fairly often to procreate and if they were at serious risk of injury the species would probably die off). Anti social violence is that semi-rare thing (in the developed world anyway) where someone calmly and intentionally decides ahead of time that their goal is to main or kill you.
This is the most competent breakdown on this fight. People are sharing this and are ascribing motivations to either side depending on their biases as you say. I think this video has more journalistic integrity than these “news” networks.
I love breakdowns like this, because it proves time and time again how often people drastically overestimate their skills in a situation like this. The "I see red" guys and "I'm a street fighter, no rules means I'll kill people." and yet Mike is always spot on that short of a few folks, everyone there is flailing and being ineffective. Great job Mike, and also spot on with your statement that the only people who should enter fights like this are people who can ACTUALLY help the situation. Way too many folks in there doing absolutely nothing but confusing folks and making the whole thing bigger.
Almost all of those people that say things like that are posturing and trying to establish dominance verbally. They have rarely, if ever, actually fought. They want to present a facade of being so tough that no-one wants to fight them. Keyboard warriors and overweight middle-aged guys are absolutely notorious for it - it's an ego-driven thing. The VERY small minority of people that are hair-trigger aggressive and DO actually damage people tend to either get damaged themselves due to constant fighting, or end up in prison due to not being able to control themselves. Unless you hang around in biker bars all the time, you probably won't meet any of them - they definitely aren't middle-managers at Walmart.
According to news reports, original protagonist was a security guard working for the riverboat company. A pontoon boat docked where the incoming riverboat moors. The security guard was asking the pontoon boat to move so the riverboat could dock and let off the passengers. The pontoon boat refused to move. The security guard pushed the pontoon boat a few feet to make room. The pontoon boat people took exception to the security guard moving their boat and decided to go hands on with the security guard. And it was ON. Not that the context changes anything about what Mike said. Just FYI.
I read somewhere but haven't verified that the folks on that pontoon boat have done this multiple times previously and knew they weren't supposed to be there, so they were already real unpopular with the riverboat crew and dock security.
Hell yeah Mike I would rather find out about these things through your channel rather than catching it accidentally on a feed. Your breakdown helps me look at this kinda shit in a more clinical view. Understanding and learning is much better than getting huffy about it. It helps that your funny af
@@hard2hurt Psychology, sociology, behavioural dynamics and so on are 'soft' sciences in that it's harder to do experiments where variables are tightly controlled, but they are following the scientific method as much as possible. You've spent the time to get the knowledge in those fields, you can be rightly proud of it.
the original fight clip is just over 8 minutes... which in itself is unheard of! So yeah, he had a lot of ground to cover.... the fact that it's "only" 30 minutes is somewhat surprising.
@@derrickrobinson7269 Agreed. I don't know why people forget that in grappling, you don't necessarily need to go down to the ground with your opponent. You can still remain standing after a foot sweep, which would be very easy to pull off against untrained people with bad posture and balance, which if we use this video for our data, is most people.
@@rohitchaojiand while you’re in the middle of that, the guy’s 300 pound friend runs up behind you and does whatever he wants to. Problem with jiu jitsu or any type of grappling is that it’s not useful against multiple opponents. If you know kickboxing or Muay Thai you can teep and keep distance and still defend yourself
Hamburglar probably greatest display of traditional/Okinawa self defense karate I've ever seen in the wild. I'd be very surprised if he's not a karate guy. Great footwork, side stance, hikite, some kata moves, etc. Really cool to see
@@hard2hurt can you get Jesse's take on that? He's got a moment where he's controlling someone's head too that reminded me of a goju style thing.. Curious on Jesse's analysis of this dude
It's incredible how contagious the fight is - otherwise rational and calm people are pulled into it like moths to a flame. It's as though as long as someone else starts it, you're free to vent your own violence without the inhibition that you'd feel in day-to-day life. Also worth noting is how many people get sucker punched - being an awesome one-on-one fighter counts for nothing if you can't see or control the environment and who is around you. Real fighting is sloppy, chaotic and seriously dangerous - the lady in green gets hit in the head and dumped in the river. She could have drowned incredibly easily as everyone else is distracted.
@@dovidstaples9985how would he know he’s innocent though? Any decision there would be based on an assumption. He could be getting robbed, or he could’ve been trying to meet up with someone’s 13 year old sister
I first saw this and went "well that's way too chaotic to follow" with people flying in and out of the picture and dudes looking like other dudes but not being the same dudes. You made it at least possible to roughly figure out what's going on. You think the hat toss was a distraction to be able to subdue the original agressor by making him look up? That's what I first thought when I saw that
Hats also get in the way. They purposely block your upper peripheral vision(to keep the sun out of your eyes), and can easily be pulled over your face to blind you fully.
I think the hat toss was the Protagonist’s way of saying to everyone watching ‘y’all saw me not start this, but god damn! I’m going to finish it’ it’s his way of committing to fight.
That was an interesting break down, of the fight. As a guy that deals with drunks often. I have seen a lot of people doing that. Some jump in because it's a fight, and others get brought in because they were just standing there.
Right, if you were white that day, you're like to get ktfo 😂😂 pretty simple. Y'all been doing this for all of American history. We'll be even by 2400 , hopefully!
I have found that the most effective way to break up a fight is to get in between the two fighters, push them apart, and tell them both in a commanding voice to cut it out. You might take a few glancing blows, but they typically don’t connect and it is the price you pay for breaking up the fight. I found this the best way because if you pull someone off the other person from behind, then you set up the person you are pulling to get sucker punched. Usually, you either pull your friend off and he gets sucker punched, or you pull the other guy off and you friend sucker punches him (which sets you up as the bad guy ).
Stop breaking up fights. One time a guy tried to take my daughter from me by a river and i started whooping the guy then here came the heroes saving the kidnapper and helped him get away
With Mike's background i cant help but picture a police report filled with names in quotations. And thats when "The Hamburgalar" was accosted by one "Ramp guy". Lmfao
This is surreal to watch. I'm from Montgomery, been down to Riverwalk about a bajillion times. Weird to be seeing so much of the internet talking about my home town.
It's a huge problem.. People see ther friend fighting, and automatically take their side, even when they know their friend started it. They'd stand and watch, if their friend is winning. But the moment things turn against him, they're all getting themselves involved. Fuck that. If my friends start a fight, they better finish it by themselves, cus I'll just pull up a seat and get the popcorn. Being your friend doesn't mean I have to help you commit murder, rape OR assault.
Yo I gotta say: Glad these folks kept it old school - nobody gets stabbed, no gunshots goin off, even the cops kept it PG. Props, AL, ya psychopaths. 😂
I've been thinking about this and wondered as a white woman, had I gone in to defend the protagonist, what would have happened-- and since this is the first time I've seen all the footage, I now know that I'd have been tackled by bias. That's why the most important lesson here is: stay tf out of situations where YOU ARE NOT EFFECTIVE.
You still would’ve gotten jumped, they didn’t care that blue shirt girl or red dress lady tried to stop it. When times become bleak tribalism prevails, you’ll have a hard time convincing people in the middle of a brawl otherwise
W*men by default should typically stay out of all fights with males due to not only being ineffective, but destructive. Often distracting their parnters or getting them killed. How the majority of women don't know that is mind boggling. Women can barely handle other women. White or black, just stay out of it. Grabbing your husbands hands, yelling and pushing is a sure way to get him or others put to sleep.
@@anon2427the red dress girl did start it at the beginning he didn't show that video😂 so you are in danger if your friends put you in danger...make better friends
@@anon2427oh and blue dress lady kicked the co captain in the head while he was being jumped. Only the lady in the white dress was completely innocent
Once a public brawl starts you never know where it is going or how it will escalate. Got sucked into 1 and avoided 1 while in the Navy. Save you the entire story but 4 of us walked into a nightclub to find a couple of our guys outnumbered and taking a beating. We weighed in and beat down the attackers. Later found out one of our guys started it by feeling up a girl on the dance floor. He was getting what he deserved until we intervened. Avoided a Marine v Navy brawl that started over nothing by grabbing a Marine I knew by the collar, he put me in a headlock and we wrestled all the way to the exit and left. Everyone else got arrested and nobody knew how it started. Which is what you did a great job of illustrating, how person after person stepped into chaos and confusion without knowing what happened or why. Let alone anything about right and wrong. Fools want to drink and fight, call the cops and let them fight until the cops arrive to settle it. Great video.
"Stop feeling so strongly about things that you don't know shit about" -- Another Earth shattering and humbling Icy Mike quote! You might need to start making t-shirts...
I'm at a loss for words as to how dumb and pathetic almost everything about this situation seems to have been. A clear study in why to stay away from crowds and drunken idiots on the water.
They shouldn’t of been there to begin with they already was causing hell yelling racial slurs before the alcohol came into play so ppl were already against them now that they hit the co captain everyone showed them exactly how they felt about them and you know it’s bad if police stand there and watch before arresting you 😂😂😂
I tried breaking up a fight at a concert one time and got sucker punched, soccer kicked, then stomped a couple times. In their defense they see someone run up to a fight their friend is in without knowing my intent and defended him
"Stop feeling so strongly about things you dont know shit about" says the guy thats studied violent incidence but never been in a brawl himself. Hmm, okay bud.
I’m proud of that young kid that stepped in and tried to intervene. He might not have been as effective as some of the other defenders, but it took away some attention even if just for a few seconds to have one less person attacking the black guy. That kid had more courage than a lot of people since a lot of people would just watch from the side lines and do nothing even the ones that are decent at fighting. Those are the real wimps.
I AGREE IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE YOUNG MAN DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIGHT AND WASN'T LOOKING TO FIGHT THEN. HE WAS TRYING TO HELP A COWORKER FROM BEING MAULED BY A BUNCH OF IGNORANT INTOXICATED IDIOTS WHICH MAKES HIM A HUNDRED PERCENT 27:27
MORE COURAGEOUS THAN ANY OF THOSE GROWN MEN. HE WAS DOING AND TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. YOU DID A GREAT JOB YOUNG MAN AND DON'T LET ANY ONE TELL YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU.
"Don't go touching police officers who are arresting someone." That's some uniformly sound advice. Film them? Call more people to film them? Call 911 on them? Do all of that if you must. But "Don't go touching police officers who are arresting someone." Still sounds like a good call. I just can't see a situation in which that's going to help more than it's going to hurt.
True I believe it would be considered "obstruction of justice" in the US to try and physically interfere with what a police officer is doing. Not saying they're always in the right when they're doing their thing, but it gives them legal immunity to hurt you if they can prove you were attempting physical contact with them as they're doing their job.
I always laughed when people called 911 while we were on scene like that. They just radio and say "hey the guy standing next to you is calling 911" and we're like "lol ok i know" and then nothing happens. Nothing ever happens when you do that. Well... besides tying up a 911 operator who can't answer a phone line for an actual emergency. We did have a woman call 911 after an officer had been hurt, which is helpful... but typically in cases like you are describing it does nothing but waste somebody's time.
@@hard2hurt we work (well, you worked, I work) two very different municipalities. A 911 call about some behaviors here would get supervisor attention. And I don't hate that? My work is solid. My folks work is, as well. But no touchy when the person in the blue suit is putting on the time out bracelets.
red shorts guy is a perfect specimen of "I know martial arts, therefore I will insert myself into every fucking fight regardless of what is happening" dude just wants to practice wrestler takedowns. "tacle goes brrrr"
This was by far the Best Breakdown / Commentary of this "incident" that I've seen to date. You drew attention to so much that I did not see in previous videos.
"Stop feeling so strongly about things that you don't know shit about." Words to live by. It is too bad that we don't have better audio. Especially at the beginning. That would really allow us to choose sides! LOL
I think that the body language is strong enough... unless you think there's a chance that the protagonist made some pretty serious, credible threats. I don't think there's a chance that happened.
@@hard2hurt I don't either but with all the rumors flying around it would be nice to put a few of them to bed. Though I just watched an interview with the lady who took that first video on her cell phone and she indicated that there is audio as well someone chose not to include it. She also did not indicate that there were any racial slurs or things of that nature. Which is a lot of the assumptions I have been hearing.
It was obvious that those entitled drunks didn't want to move there little boat. Have you not read up on the story? I swear people are so lazy when it comes to media consumption.
@@shuheihisagi6689 I know as much as anyone else does who has watched these videos as well as interviews with witnesses. If you had read my entire comment instead of knee jerk reacting to what you thought you might read you would know that. We all know that the Pontoon boat people refusing to move the boat started this snowball rolling down the hill. Perhaps you need to watch this entire video and really listen to his very last sentence. I would like to know more to better understand what took a simple situation into a brawl. The audio that was removed from the first video footage might help if it picked up any of the initial yelling match or comments from witnesses near the cell phone taking the video.
@@FrugalShave there's a reason no videos exist the other side of the river. Sometimes audio makes the wrong people look bad so the person who films doesn't share. I curious how revenge is aloud on the wrong people but restraining isn't. Devil's advocate. Man in orange shorts only restrains and pins. He never hits out till he's flipped and underneath. Not justifying his actions but it is different to body slamming someone for just standing there amd stamping on his head. But that guys a hero
Keep the comments civil on this one. I discuss my own bias in this video... and that bias applies to the comment section as well.
This was not meant for your video, sir. This was meant for "Nathaneal Sees Spaghetti Being Made." I don't why it appears for your video.
Now Sifu Mike is teaching Buddhism.
Its all fun and games until the racial war breaks out.
Let's be real white man thought he had more right then others and when he got corrected it was a issue. This Revolutionary ass whooping was needed. Your not above anyone definitely not above any other race this push back will always happen. Do on to other as you want Done on to you
Great commentary.
"Stop feeling so strongly about things you don't know shit about"
This made my day !
Wish more people knew this.
Probably the best wrap up for this video, ever.
I want this on a tee shirt.
@kelly8107 what's wrong with that
Great quote
Make swimming across a river and then fighting in a massive brawl a challenge on the Ultimate Self Defense Championship!
Dude that came down the ramp and broke it up, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd done work as a bouncer at a club or something. The way he used his whole body and shut it down quick was great
He came down to stop the fight, and he immediately was dodging a punch.
Yes he's the real hero should have ended then. NOT the boy swimming. Here's my view on the boy. He's 16 and should remain anonymous. But people about to be very upset when feds break it down from start to finish. Other than him swimming to defend another human being. He made things so much worse. The fight had been broken up before he got out the water. Hes then worked up by the crowd and takes it upon himself to do something. He carry out a dangerous rock bottom on someone who never laid a hand on anyone, then proceeds to stamp on his head with 1 other man. When that man's wife trys to pull them off he knocks her to the ground. Clearly lapping up the crowd with a dangerous immature mentality. Been better off staying on the boat
@@Matt_0G that's the conundrum about street fights. Who gets to decide when the fight is over? If someone is retreating but the other person is still raging, is the fight still happening? At least with sanctioned combat sports, there is a bell that signals the end of a fight.
@@phanatic215 yes, it was a right mess. Sadly everyone now relying on finding fault with every white person cause currently left with revenge attacks on the wrong peolle
@phanatic215, those fuckers started it, that kid helped finish it. Foh!
More fight breakdowns of real life scenarios would be amazing
You played GameBattles?
@@trubenjam1n310 Back when I was like 12 and had no idea what I was doing anywhere lmao
This video: warning, content may be inappropriate for some ages
Also this video: Mike just laughing hysterically right out the gate lol
The hat toss was amazing 😂🤣
That hat toss was EPIC.
That's old school distraction.
Fighting game character energy
@@foursix32 brotha is like Terry Bogard
I like how you were excited about this as if this fight was a new piece of interesting literature in your field that just dropped for you to dig into.
Well, it is.
Police are going to be talking about this for years. They will also have a lot more than we do. After action reports, investigations, court cases, et cetera.
@@hard2hurtthere is *a lot* more information and context that you don't know and it is currently available. There's multiple recordings from different angles and there's been an interview with the captain of the commercial boat who works on the riverfront. He provided even more information prior to the recording and even historical context from years back.
1) The people on the pontoon were the *ATTACKERS.*
2) The people on the pontoon parked their boat illegally and have been told *MULTIPLE* times to move their boat so that the large commercial boat can park. They refused and even flipped off the captain.
3) They purposefully left their private boat parked there illegally and left to go eat and drink. That's how entitled and brazen they were.
4) Instead of towing their boat and giving them a fine, the man they will eventually attack and jump, who works for the riverfront, simply moved it out of the parking zone of the commercial boat.
5) The people in the pontoon have prior history of belligerent acts. This isn't their first time being belligerent, entitled and hostile.
6) The guy in blue in the beginning who was a 16 year-old crewmember.
7) The person swimming was also a 16 year-old crewmember who was in the commercial boat watching the violent pontoon people attack and jump the *INNOCENT* man from beginning.
8) Again, the people in that pontoon have a history of harassment down there on the riverfront. The police refused to take serious action in the past. They could have prevented these people from causing the attack that occurred that day.
9) The people in the pontoon were not _"radicalized by the violence"_ as they have been inherently violent and have been *ENTITLED* due to never facing consequences for their misdeeds for years by being able to harass the people on the riverfront with no to little repercussions from law enforcement. And this is despite the crewmembers calling the police and filing reports on them.
🗣Repent Israelites all praise to the most high YAHAWAH AND HIS SON YAHAWASHI🤴🏽🦁🔥🛸⌛️
The so called black man, Latino, and Native Americans are the Israelites. Yahawah chosen people. That are scattered in all nations through our fathers. Making them Israelite foreigners/Scattered sheep/The multitude.
Yahawashi speaking: Matthew 15:24
“But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Deuteronomy 7:6 “For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 32:39 “See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.”
Luke 12:51
“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
@@cortneyeverett6927Your faith is as evil as you are crazy.
And no, those people are not Jewish by race.
Blue shirt girl kicked the co-captain in the abdomen while he laid on the dock in the initial scuffle. (Therefore, bad person.)
"Stop feeling so strongly about things you don't know shit about."
That's one of the best quotes I've heard all year.
Naw, sad thing is , my community knows about these things all too well.
@@RegularNiccaTv or think u do. no one knows shit unless they are directly involved. simple rule of thumb
@@migueldiaz248did you not comprehend what they said 😂
@@RegularNiccaTvOffended by Everything, Ashamed of Nothing. All the while perpetually playing the poor Victim.
The co-captain was trying (with a bullhorn) to get them away from the reserved dock for his ferry for 45 minutes. No excuses.
Hat toss was his official notice that I am off the clock and no longer a representative of the company.
LOL; I get it now.
Yea; over due hat toss IMO.
Uh that's smart, weird that I haven't recognized it, have done similar things to show "Okay that's no longer work now"-signage xD
23:43 Such a beautiful and thought-provoking picture whilst paused, it looks like a modern day renaissance painting.
yw
I honestly always absolutely love when Mike watches and reacts some for real "street fight" be it funny or serious ones and talks about the situation. There's just something so satisfying and instructive about it
"Alabama Riverboat Brawl" is a badass title to this throwdown, they should make it an annual thing for charities and make it a heritage site. I wanna see more whoopass and inept confrontations.
If you see people on a pontoon boat drinking cheap beer, just assume that they're a threat
That IS a heritage site. It's where slaves were brought in and cotton left. Plenty of heritage right there...
From all the videos calling it the "Alabama Riverboat Brawl," I honestly thought it was a backyard wrestling match that went viral.
Hey my guy, since im the first person here for the first time ever, i wanna say that youve "taught"/helped me be more confident in life through being confident in my body, you were one of the people who pushed me to that, thank you ❤
That means the world to me
@hard2hurt you should already know that more people than me take inspiration and confidence from your experience and perspective.
keep doing what you've been doing because there are many people who should hear what you have to say.
Thank you again ❤️🫡
(And if you didn't know, now you know☺️)
One thing I learn from these videos and others like it is that everyone pretty much does the same things, and it's never like how a lot of these "self defense guys" act like it is. People always say in street fights there are no rules but that's actually not true. Very rarely do you see eye gouging and biting. But what do you see? Shoving and grappling. People I think have certain intuitions about how they should behave in these situations and seem to act accordingly.
Almost like most humans aren't that special.
@@hard2hurtYou will not rise to the occasion, you will fall to the level of your ancestral shoving and general flailing about 😂
@@hard2hurt They know what fighting should look like, but their ability to emulate it is dicey at best.
Shoving + Grappling = Tai Chi Chuan is the best martial art
Agreed. But we should also be careful to distinguish between social and anti social violence.
Most self defense dorks train for anti social violence which is the extreme minority of violence, and in that kind of violence we would expect a higher level of violence compared to what we see here (although as a whole, I don’t think I’ve ever seen much in the way of eye gouging in the streets)
This is social violence. This is that primitive part of our brain going “I’ve/my group has been disrespected and I’m going to posture and shout and throw ineffectual slaps and grab things”.
And it shows in how few injuries there were overall. Our instincts on social violence are literally evolved to not be super injurious because the goal isn’t to murder the opposition, it’s to establish dominance and respect. (It’s the same shit you see with deer that fight. You’ll notice it’s rare for them to actually injure one another because they have to partake in it fairly often to procreate and if they were at serious risk of injury the species would probably die off).
Anti social violence is that semi-rare thing (in the developed world anyway) where someone calmly and intentionally decides ahead of time that their goal is to main or kill you.
This is the most competent breakdown on this fight. People are sharing this and are ascribing motivations to either side depending on their biases as you say. I think this video has more journalistic integrity than these “news” networks.
“Blue shirt girl” definitely ran over and kicked the Captain while he was getting jumped on the ground BEFORE she put her hands on him.
Do you know how hard it is to swim 100 meterss in any form, get up out the water, and STILL be ready to get active
I love breakdowns like this, because it proves time and time again how often people drastically overestimate their skills in a situation like this. The "I see red" guys and "I'm a street fighter, no rules means I'll kill people." and yet Mike is always spot on that short of a few folks, everyone there is flailing and being ineffective.
Great job Mike, and also spot on with your statement that the only people who should enter fights like this are people who can ACTUALLY help the situation. Way too many folks in there doing absolutely nothing but confusing folks and making the whole thing bigger.
Almost all of those people that say things like that are posturing and trying to establish dominance verbally. They have rarely, if ever, actually fought. They want to present a facade of being so tough that no-one wants to fight them. Keyboard warriors and overweight middle-aged guys are absolutely notorious for it - it's an ego-driven thing.
The VERY small minority of people that are hair-trigger aggressive and DO actually damage people tend to either get damaged themselves due to constant fighting, or end up in prison due to not being able to control themselves. Unless you hang around in biker bars all the time, you probably won't meet any of them - they definitely aren't middle-managers at Walmart.
Also worth noting that almost everyone thinks they are one of the few who can be effective :P
The guy that swam across the river is a 16-year-old kid. that's crazy!
Explains why he does idiotic things.
@@umartdagnir You have to ask him
@@umartdagnirI saw a hero swimming across that water, only this comment matches your description.
"If you wear flip-flops you can't fight."
Mike, every single brazilian UFC fighter wears flip-flops, it's like Brazil's national footwear lol
Same bs opinion as jocko on flip flops making you incapable of being a human they think its like a -100 on all your stats the second you put em on
Top notch coverage icymike! I can tell you put a lot of work into this video
"Warning: THis video may contain graphic or violent imagery." Cut to your gleeful laugh.
According to news reports, original protagonist was a security guard working for the riverboat company. A pontoon boat docked where the incoming riverboat moors. The security guard was asking the pontoon boat to move so the riverboat could dock and let off the passengers. The pontoon boat refused to move. The security guard pushed the pontoon boat a few feet to make room. The pontoon boat people took exception to the security guard moving their boat and decided to go hands on with the security guard. And it was ON. Not that the context changes anything about what Mike said. Just FYI.
I read somewhere but haven't verified that the folks on that pontoon boat have done this multiple times previously and knew they weren't supposed to be there, so they were already real unpopular with the riverboat crew and dock security.
@@mattatomattahto no wonder so many of the boat crew jumpped in LOL
Co-Captain. not security guard as it later became known
Yeah to me the story is more ‘day drunk assholes giving poor guy just doing his job a hard time’
You mean he began to attack others property and he is the villain
Would love to see more breakdowns like this from you! It's really interesting to see the psychological aspects of everything going on
Alabama brawl is Gold, protect these videos at all costs 😂😂
Hell yeah Mike
I would rather find out about these things through your channel rather than catching it accidentally on a feed.
Your breakdown helps me look at this kinda shit in a more clinical view. Understanding and learning is much better than getting huffy about it.
It helps that your funny af
I appreciate that you described it as clinical. In the rough draft of this I referred to this as "science" but it seemed a little pretentious.
@@hard2hurt Psychology, sociology, behavioural dynamics and so on are 'soft' sciences in that it's harder to do experiments where variables are tightly controlled, but they are following the scientific method as much as possible. You've spent the time to get the knowledge in those fields, you can be rightly proud of it.
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I’ve seen many analysis on the Montgomery Brawl and every single one of them start off with the commenter being giddy to talk about it 😂 Love it.
Lmao
Wow when you said broke down you made a new mold. That was so much information about how they stand while drunk fighting.
Honestly, I was hoping you would cover this incident, but a nearly 30 minute analysis is more than I could have anticipated. Hell yes! Let's dig in.
the original fight clip is just over 8 minutes... which in itself is unheard of! So yeah, he had a lot of ground to cover.... the fact that it's "only" 30 minutes is somewhat surprising.
The less people I have around me, the better off I feel. This video is a perfect example as to why. Be safe Y'all.
Worker as a bouncer in bars for 15 years and almost every brawl like this is the same. Pretty spot on in your break down.
This was great commentary on many levels. 👏🏽 kudos for being unbiased, but informative.
All the jiu jitsu guys shit their pants when you said "if you wear flip flops you cant fight".
This whole video is exactly why you don't use Ju Jitsu in a street fight.
You use Jiu Jitsu to stay standing
@@derrickrobinson7269 Agreed. I don't know why people forget that in grappling, you don't necessarily need to go down to the ground with your opponent. You can still remain standing after a foot sweep, which would be very easy to pull off against untrained people with bad posture and balance, which if we use this video for our data, is most people.
@@rohitchaoji You can also use it to not get taken down
@@rohitchaojiand while you’re in the middle of that, the guy’s 300 pound friend runs up behind you and does whatever he wants to. Problem with jiu jitsu or any type of grappling is that it’s not useful against multiple opponents. If you know kickboxing or Muay Thai you can teep and keep distance and still defend yourself
Hamburglar probably greatest display of traditional/Okinawa self defense karate I've ever seen in the wild.
I'd be very surprised if he's not a karate guy. Great footwork, side stance, hikite, some kata moves, etc. Really cool to see
He is very good.
@@hard2hurt can you get Jesse's take on that?
He's got a moment where he's controlling someone's head too that reminded me of a goju style thing.. Curious on Jesse's analysis of this dude
this guy deserves to be popular man.... }:
I could totally see this type of hand to hand combat breakdown being a weekly or bi weekly video 🙏🏼
It's incredible how contagious the fight is - otherwise rational and calm people are pulled into it like moths to a flame. It's as though as long as someone else starts it, you're free to vent your own violence without the inhibition that you'd feel in day-to-day life.
Also worth noting is how many people get sucker punched - being an awesome one-on-one fighter counts for nothing if you can't see or control the environment and who is around you.
Real fighting is sloppy, chaotic and seriously dangerous - the lady in green gets hit in the head and dumped in the river. She could have drowned incredibly easily as everyone else is distracted.
That’s why she should have kept her ass out of it.
I dunno why you would assume that they are otherwise rational and calm.
I somehow had to agree with all the above comments.
If I'm with a group of guys and we see an inoccent man getting jumped we'd run in to help. Nothing irrational about that
@@dovidstaples9985how would he know he’s innocent though? Any decision there would be based on an assumption. He could be getting robbed, or he could’ve been trying to meet up with someone’s 13 year old sister
If you saw the video before this, the guy in the red shorts had the most aggressive interactions
I first saw this and went "well that's way too chaotic to follow" with people flying in and out of the picture and dudes looking like other dudes but not being the same dudes.
You made it at least possible to roughly figure out what's going on.
You think the hat toss was a distraction to be able to subdue the original agressor by making him look up? That's what I first thought when I saw that
Hats also get in the way. They purposely block your upper peripheral vision(to keep the sun out of your eyes), and can easily be pulled over your face to blind you fully.
I think the hat toss was the Protagonist’s way of saying to everyone watching ‘y’all saw me not start this, but god damn! I’m going to finish it’ it’s his way of committing to fight.
@@mikenewton389This right here. Pre-fight showboating by the defender serves precisely this purpose.
In his previous life, he was an NFL referee. **Throws **-flag-** hat** "Personal foul. Fifteen yards. First down!"
Hat toss= throw down
Seriously you should do more of these. Your insight is invaluable
That was an interesting break down, of the fight. As a guy that deals with drunks often. I have seen a lot of people doing that. Some jump in because it's a fight, and others get brought in because they were just standing there.
Yea, this rumble screams Whiskey & Beer to me, more than "raisial" stuff.
But then again, I'm not from the south.
None of them were just standing there.😂
Mike, this content is god tier, more like this would be great, maybe smaller fights but the breakdown was excellent!
It's of paramount importance to know what you are fighting for, and why you are fighting for it... a principle to live by.
Right, if you were white that day, you're like to get ktfo 😂😂 pretty simple. Y'all been doing this for all of American history. We'll be even by 2400 , hopefully!
24:30 yeaaahhh chair guy had to be stopped. He was definitely entering his villain saga
I have found that the most effective way to break up a fight is to get in between the two fighters, push them apart, and tell them both in a commanding voice to cut it out. You might take a few glancing blows, but they typically don’t connect and it is the price you pay for breaking up the fight.
I found this the best way because if you pull someone off the other person from behind, then you set up the person you are pulling to get sucker punched. Usually, you either pull your friend off and he gets sucker punched, or you pull the other guy off and you friend sucker punches him (which sets you up as the bad guy ).
Stop breaking up fights. One time a guy tried to take my daughter from me by a river and i started whooping the guy then here came the heroes saving the kidnapper and helped him get away
Pro Tip, drop kick them simultaneously. Or better yet jumping split kick Jean Claude Van Damme style
Ahh sounds nice but I don't break up a fight because I always get hit...and once I get hit I'm officially apart of the fight
The hat toss = 'it's on and cracking 😂😂😂
Nice breakdown, you should do more of these! Was not only very entertaining, but also very informative
"Alabama Riverboat Brawl". Sounds like a weekly event.
Loved the breakdown. This whole thing is absolute insanity
This my 1st time to your channel. I’ve been laughing at this shit for the last 3 days and it get funnier each time and commentary had me 😂😂😂.
Welcome
Hat toss was more than that. He threw up tue Bat Signal😂.
With Mike's background i cant help but picture a police report filled with names in quotations. And thats when "The Hamburgalar" was accosted by one "Ramp guy". Lmfao
Master class in commentary
This is surreal to watch. I'm from Montgomery, been down to Riverwalk about a bajillion times. Weird to be seeing so much of the internet talking about my home town.
What do you think happened?
@@MR-backupHow would he know
@@CADClickerHe wouldn't, exactly. But that's why I asked what he THOUGHT.
Comprende?
@@MR-backupsome thugs jumped/beat on a co-captain of a boat for NOTHING
So good Mike! Excellent break down. Should be required viewing for all the bystanders who think they know what was going on!
It's a huge problem.. People see ther friend fighting, and automatically take their side, even when they know their friend started it. They'd stand and watch, if their friend is winning. But the moment things turn against him, they're all getting themselves involved. Fuck that. If my friends start a fight, they better finish it by themselves, cus I'll just pull up a seat and get the popcorn. Being your friend doesn't mean I have to help you commit murder, rape OR assault.
I am so glad I don’t have friends like you
Yo I gotta say:
Glad these folks kept it old school - nobody gets stabbed, no gunshots goin off, even the cops kept it PG.
Props, AL,
ya psychopaths.
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This reminds me of a national geographic breakdown. Like two pack of lions having a war
I've been thinking about this and wondered as a white woman, had I gone in to defend the protagonist, what would have happened-- and since this is the first time I've seen all the footage, I now know that I'd have been tackled by bias. That's why the most important lesson here is: stay tf out of situations where YOU ARE NOT EFFECTIVE.
You still would’ve gotten jumped, they didn’t care that blue shirt girl or red dress lady tried to stop it. When times become bleak tribalism prevails, you’ll have a hard time convincing people in the middle of a brawl otherwise
W*men by default should typically stay out of all fights with males due to not only being ineffective, but destructive. Often distracting their parnters or getting them killed. How the majority of women don't know that is mind boggling. Women can barely handle other women. White or black, just stay out of it. Grabbing your husbands hands, yelling and pushing is a sure way to get him or others put to sleep.
@@anon2427the red dress girl did start it at the beginning he didn't show that video😂 so you are in danger if your friends put you in danger...make better friends
@@anon2427oh and blue dress lady kicked the co captain in the head while he was being jumped. Only the lady in the white dress was completely innocent
Once a public brawl starts you never know where it is going or how it will escalate. Got sucked into 1 and avoided 1 while in the Navy. Save you the entire story but 4 of us walked into a nightclub to find a couple of our guys outnumbered and taking a beating. We weighed in and beat down the attackers. Later found out one of our guys started it by feeling up a girl on the dance floor. He was getting what he deserved until we intervened. Avoided a Marine v Navy brawl that started over nothing by grabbing a Marine I knew by the collar, he put me in a headlock and we wrestled all the way to the exit and left. Everyone else got arrested and nobody knew how it started. Which is what you did a great job of illustrating, how person after person stepped into chaos and confusion without knowing what happened or why. Let alone anything about right and wrong. Fools want to drink and fight, call the cops and let them fight until the cops arrive to settle it. Great video.
The dude with the busted crocks!😂😂😂😂
"Stop feeling so strongly about things that you don't know shit about" -- Another Earth shattering and humbling Icy Mike quote! You might need to start making t-shirts...
Hahahahaha the white lady in the red dress got her bell rung!!! 🔔 😂😂
This is the best video I have seen on this matter.
ramp guy is one of my favourite people today lol
Ramp Guy is number 1.
I when you say this isn’t even done 😂😂😂ready for act 2😂😂😂 funny 😄
I'm at a loss for words as to how dumb and pathetic almost everything about this situation seems to have been. A clear study in why to stay away from crowds and drunken idiots on the water.
Dude was doing his job and part of that is to approach drunk crowds at times they fucked up and ganged one man and paid for it dearly lol
@@WaltPDABADGUYfacts
i agree
They shouldn’t of been there to begin with they already was causing hell yelling racial slurs before the alcohol came into play so ppl were already against them now that they hit the co captain everyone showed them exactly how they felt about them and you know it’s bad if police stand there and watch before arresting you 😂😂😂
Do stupid things win stupid prizes. There was only one bunch of stupid people in this vide.
Honestly just more surprised and impressed that a fight this big in a 2A state didn't end up in gunfire.
It was on the river so everyone left the guns in their cars.
@@ethanking4954 Lol rules don't always mean something.
I tried breaking up a fight at a concert one time and got sucker punched, soccer kicked, then stomped a couple times. In their defense they see someone run up to a fight their friend is in without knowing my intent and defended him
"Defended" in quotation marks.
Your whole reaction had me in tears the whole video😂😂 I’m officially a new subscriber
This was actually incredibly entertaining. Of course I don't condone street brawls but the way this one became so chaotic was sort of funny
"Stop feeling so strongly about things you dont know shit about" says the guy thats studied violent incidence but never been in a brawl himself. Hmm, okay bud.
I can only imagine how much of a redundant nightmare this court case is going to be.
So much video to review and analyze.
Sounds like billable hours for me.
I’m proud of that young kid that stepped in and tried to intervene. He might not have been as effective as some of the other defenders, but it took away some attention even if just for a few seconds to have one less person attacking the black guy. That kid had more courage than a lot of people since a lot of people would just watch from the side lines and do nothing even the ones that are decent at fighting. Those are the real wimps.
He actually body slammed one of the guys and tossed the lady in the white dress off of him.
@@christelleriddick3567 He was talking about the white kid 16 year old. Not the black one that was swimming.
@@jaymorgan. Hey thanks!
I AGREE IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE YOUNG MAN DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIGHT AND WASN'T LOOKING TO FIGHT THEN. HE WAS TRYING TO HELP A COWORKER FROM BEING MAULED BY A BUNCH OF IGNORANT INTOXICATED IDIOTS WHICH MAKES HIM A HUNDRED PERCENT 27:27
MORE COURAGEOUS THAN ANY OF THOSE GROWN MEN. HE WAS DOING AND TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. YOU DID A GREAT JOB YOUNG MAN AND DON'T LET ANY ONE TELL YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU.
I need self defense lessons from you....I have taught self defense and your breakdown was amazing
The river dock needs to install one of those coin pushing brooms that they have in arcades.
Just hit a button and knock everyone into the water.
That's wrong but funny.
I've watched about 20 different videos on this incident and this is the BEST ONE I've seen.. Good breakdown
"Don't go touching police officers who are arresting someone."
That's some uniformly sound advice.
Film them? Call more people to film them? Call 911 on them? Do all of that if you must.
But
"Don't go touching police officers who are arresting someone."
Still sounds like a good call. I just can't see a situation in which that's going to help more than it's going to hurt.
True I believe it would be considered "obstruction of justice" in the US to try and physically interfere with what a police officer is doing. Not saying they're always in the right when they're doing their thing, but it gives them legal immunity to hurt you if they can prove you were attempting physical contact with them as they're doing their job.
I always laughed when people called 911 while we were on scene like that. They just radio and say "hey the guy standing next to you is calling 911" and we're like "lol ok i know" and then nothing happens. Nothing ever happens when you do that. Well... besides tying up a 911 operator who can't answer a phone line for an actual emergency. We did have a woman call 911 after an officer had been hurt, which is helpful... but typically in cases like you are describing it does nothing but waste somebody's time.
@@hard2hurt we work (well, you worked, I work) two very different municipalities. A 911 call about some behaviors here would get supervisor attention.
And I don't hate that? My work is solid. My folks work is, as well.
But no touchy when the person in the blue suit is putting on the time out bracelets.
I nearly spit out my coffee at "...he's been radicalized now"
A few people got hung up on that lol
I mean...that IS a viable outcome. It will also be used as justification for various "side's" beliefs too. Frustrating to see in action.
red shorts guy is a perfect specimen of "I know martial arts, therefore I will insert myself into every fucking fight regardless of what is happening" dude just wants to practice wrestler takedowns. "tacle goes brrrr"
The moral of the story is don't start none, won't be none.
Chair shot guy was the most vicious.
Yeah sure because the people kicking the cocaptain guy, even in tbe head, rhat wasn't vicious. That chair was mostly fabric
@rosekt2023 bro, check my other comments on this video. I'm doing a tongue in cheek awards thing like from the video game, Worms.
You're hilarious 😂😂 Also loved the breakdown 👍🏾
Good ol' fashioned brawl. Almost everyone catches hands, feet, and chairs.😂
Lmao
Clean squabble though. Out here somebody getting stabbed.
This was by far the Best Breakdown / Commentary of this "incident" that I've seen to date. You drew attention to so much that I did not see in previous videos.
What an breakdown.😂.! Saved my day ! Please more of those stuff mike
Key thing is, nobody had to die. It was a mass workout session with fists, swim class, and a chair.
Im new to your channel. I must say your non bias breakdown of this was so spot on. And it was hilarious. 😂
Guy in a life vest at 7:04 is a teenage worker for the riverboat company. He tried to help his coworker before getting punched in the gut or the nuts.
"Stop feeling so strongly about things that you don't know shit about."
Words to live by.
It is too bad that we don't have better audio. Especially at the beginning. That would really allow us to choose sides! LOL
I think that the body language is strong enough... unless you think there's a chance that the protagonist made some pretty serious, credible threats. I don't think there's a chance that happened.
@@hard2hurt I don't either but with all the rumors flying around it would be nice to put a few of them to bed. Though I just watched an interview with the lady who took that first video on her cell phone and she indicated that there is audio as well someone chose not to include it. She also did not indicate that there were any racial slurs or things of that nature. Which is a lot of the assumptions I have been hearing.
It was obvious that those entitled drunks didn't want to move there little boat. Have you not read up on the story? I swear people are so lazy when it comes to media consumption.
@@shuheihisagi6689 I know as much as anyone else does who has watched these videos as well as interviews with witnesses. If you had read my entire comment instead of knee jerk reacting to what you thought you might read you would know that. We all know that the Pontoon boat people refusing to move the boat started this snowball rolling down the hill. Perhaps you need to watch this entire video and really listen to his very last sentence.
I would like to know more to better understand what took a simple situation into a brawl. The audio that was removed from the first video footage might help if it picked up any of the initial yelling match or comments from witnesses near the cell phone taking the video.
@@FrugalShave there's a reason no videos exist the other side of the river. Sometimes audio makes the wrong people look bad so the person who films doesn't share. I curious how revenge is aloud on the wrong people but restraining isn't. Devil's advocate. Man in orange shorts only restrains and pins. He never hits out till he's flipped and underneath. Not justifying his actions but it is different to body slamming someone for just standing there amd stamping on his head. But that guys a hero
" A lot of times ppl jump into fights just becuz they wanna hit 🤡👊🏽someone". 🤣😭😭😭
Loved this breakdown. I feel bad guy the two guys on the boat. I didn't catch that when i watched it originally
The hat toss will become part of pop culture. Say what you want, that guys got some style🤘🤘
Would you rather: get your butt kicked in a viral video, or have hard2hurt mock and make fun of you in the most hilarious and demoralizing way?
You made me laugh really hard when you called that one dude the hamburgler 😂😂😂 thank you for putting a smile on my face today.
This whole brawl was wild, I feel bad about the people that got hurt but I couldn't stop myself from laughing at the idiocy of the whole situation lol
Me too… and it’s crazy how viral it went too lol
I love your breakdown of the whole thing..informative, funny and downright on point. Great job 👏🏿
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I'm so so so glad I follow this channel, thank you for the education!