Pool pump wiring, installing a timer and bonding! Pool series #3 Ep

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  • I install a pool pump timer, all electrical and bonding in this episode. #abovegroundpool #pool #poolinstall
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  • @BCummings
    @BCummings Рік тому +16

    You are one of the most natural teacher/instructors I've seen. Even with talent this must take a lot of prep... and it's appreciated. I always learn something of value from your videos, so thanks!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +2

      I do spend a tremendous amount of time learning and reading before making these videos. Thanks for noticing.

  • @gcampbell83
    @gcampbell83 Рік тому +11

    The Kelley's Country Life has the smartest viewers and commenters. I came for the ice machine and stayed for the education.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      We appreciate you

    • @jp34604
      @jp34604 Рік тому

      The name of the channel should be redneck University

    • @johnThornton-t9b
      @johnThornton-t9b Рік тому

      Now I have to check to see if he has an ice machine video. I've been wanting to "make one" myself

    • @gcampbell83
      @gcampbell83 Рік тому

      @@johnThornton-t9b You bet he does. Andrew has two different versions, watch both before you build. He comes with the receipts on how much they produce to how much electricity it takes. You are going to love it! Andrew is very methodical on what he does.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      I'm the "ice man" and have a huge Playlist on homemade ice makers. Start here for the biggest series on UA-cam for homemade ice makers ua-cam.com/video/6VsqPIA8LxM/v-deo.html

  • @johnThornton-t9b
    @johnThornton-t9b Рік тому +4

    I like this guy.. Very calm demeanor.. Thank You

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @Supermaanie1
    @Supermaanie1 Рік тому +4

    Your vids are always so calming to watch after a rough day. I saw the ice machine but came for the outside bar, and stayed for pretty much everything else.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      That is awesome! Truly appreciate the support

    • @jenniferjones5156
      @jenniferjones5156 6 місяців тому

      @@TKCLdo you know anything about filter balls?

  • @xyzpdq81
    @xyzpdq81 Рік тому +8

    Thanks Andrew. Great video. I'm a 22 Year long Union Electrician Local 11, this video was a nice change from most of the wiring I see on UA-cam. 2 changes I would make would be to grind or wire brush the medal on your bonding around your pool as well as drill and tap 1/4" inch bolts instead of those self tappers. As far as the wire. The THHN vs THWN the W is for wet locations like submersible pumps and similar. The THHN is great for your application. You can also find standard 500' rolls of wire at the hardware store and just buy a roll of black, Red, white, or Green, and just buy the colors you need and pull them in the conduit. Thanks and keep up the great content.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +7

      That's very true, but I prefer the twisted tri wire because it pushes through the conduit nicely. Not to mention I priced out the individual wire and it was almost 2 1/2 times the cost per foot to buy it individually 😳. These prices and supply is ridiculous.

  • @Mrcaffinebean
    @Mrcaffinebean 6 місяців тому +5

    Without a doubt this is the best pool installation on UA-cam. Complete install, with all the codes complied with and such. Thank you!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      Glad it helped

  • @BIGRICKLITTLERICK
    @BIGRICKLITTLERICK Місяць тому +1

    Great video thank you!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Місяць тому

      Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @pampilgrim2274
    @pampilgrim2274 Рік тому +1

    Hi, Andrew! You can’t keep a good man down! There you are back at work on the pool. Thanks for all your hard work making these videos for all of us. Promise me that you will take care of yourself.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the support.

  • @ACO-Amy
    @ACO-Amy Рік тому +1

    What an excellent video Andrew! You're a natural at explaining things so it makes sense. Thank you!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you

  • @randyschmittou8708
    @randyschmittou8708 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing your video. I knew when you said tape up your conduit ends to keep them from getting packed slap full of dirt, I knew you were Southern. My Dad was an electrician and that sounded just like something he'd say! Very good information!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @Glenn_and_ShannonsSalty_Life
    @Glenn_and_ShannonsSalty_Life Рік тому +7

    Lol, not sure how I survived swimming in a pool like that back in the 70’s that the pump was plugged into a two prong plug 100’ feet from the house on a 14 gauge extension cord! It makes sense, but it’s crazy how regs have changed over the years

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Lol no kidding, I thought about that too.

    • @johnw9874
      @johnw9874 4 місяці тому

      The National Electrical Code is updated every 3 years.

  • @relaxingtimeswithmav6485
    @relaxingtimeswithmav6485 Рік тому +2

    I don't plan on putting a pool in, but it's nice the know what it takes. Thanks for teaching us something new

  • @radmilamiljanic5977
    @radmilamiljanic5977 Рік тому

    Thorough and clear as ever. I hope you got through the storm OK.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      It got wild late last night, but everything looks OK.

  • @busyboy7635
    @busyboy7635 Рік тому +8

    Man, is there nothing you can't do? Great job.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +3

      Sure, but that's not going to stop me from trying. 😉

  • @texaslookout5382
    @texaslookout5382 Рік тому +1

    Ground Bonding is the most important aspect of your Superior Made Video. Many Thanks I only wish I had that soft soil your dealing with instead of my Limestone Rock.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @karenriehm3343
    @karenriehm3343 Рік тому

    Yet another great educational video! People can save their selves a lot of time & money not to mention frustration by watching your video! Another job well done 👊

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you

  • @jjrizzles
    @jjrizzles Рік тому +2

    we use a shop-vac and twine to pull wire through long conduit runs, just tie something like a plastic grocery bag to the twine and stuff it in one end suck it from the other end with the vacuum, when you have string through the run, then tie the twine to your wire and pull it through. done 500' or more in 2" conduit that way, works with mule tape too. makes it a lot easier than trying to feed it by hand.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I've definitely heard of that trick.

  • @stevewhite5756
    @stevewhite5756 Рік тому

    Love all of the electrical code references.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @GaHullbillyRanch
    @GaHullbillyRanch Рік тому +1

    Glad to see the pool build series

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching

  • @rcr01111
    @rcr01111 Рік тому

    Bookmarking this for my pool install. Thank you!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, several more videos on the install. Now working on the pool deck.

  • @arnecarlsson9740
    @arnecarlsson9740 Рік тому +1

    Very instructive and I appreciate the detailed NEC rules explanations. 👏👏👏

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @jeremiahs45
    @jeremiahs45 Рік тому

    A bunch of useful information Andrew. Thank you

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @Tripring2000
    @Tripring2000 Рік тому +4

    Bonding equalizes metallic objects to the same electrical potential to prevent current flow. You’d be amazed how many people are swimming in dangerous pools due to improper bonding and grounding techniques.
    Had a friend who complained they were getting a tingle every time they got into or out of the pool. Turned out to be a defective light in the pool that the bonding strap had corroded away along with a grounding issue at the electrical panel. It’s a wonder no one was electrocuted.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      So funny you say that, I had a friend mention their pool shocked them 😲👀. Wow!

    • @Tripring2000
      @Tripring2000 Рік тому

      @@TKCL yep, many older pools were not bonded correctly or the bonds have corroded away due to lack of maintenance.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Mine should be good with 6 different bonding points on the pool alone.

    • @mikerichard-FOPA3
      @mikerichard-FOPA3 Рік тому +1

      Andrew, Where is your supervisor (Ruger)? very informative video, I like your wire dispenser that you built.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      He lays on the porch all day when it's this hot. He hates the heat.

  • @paulajones9956
    @paulajones9956 Рік тому

    Very impressed with your knowledge of electrical work, Wow your Amazing

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, I just like to read and learn.

  • @garyg5975
    @garyg5975 Рік тому

    Great job Andrew. I understood every bit of this.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @jefflaib2135
    @jefflaib2135 Рік тому

    Love how clear the information is and how easy it is to understand. I am in California and am looking at installing a circuit for my Travel trailer. Need to start doing more research maybe do it myself since it will be such a short run

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I've got a video showing a 50 amp RV hookup I did.

    • @jefflaib2135
      @jefflaib2135 Рік тому

      @@TKCL cool I will have to check it out

  • @rongray4847
    @rongray4847 Рік тому +2

    Great video Andrew, very well explained. Your pool looks beautiful, I can just imagine it with the deck and landscaping 👍👍. ❤️❤️🇨🇦

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you, I'm very excited about the deck.

  • @DanielRakaric
    @DanielRakaric 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice to see the procedure. Needed a sanity check since my neighbor apparently has been running essentially an extension cord on top of the ground 75 feet for over 2 years and apparently had no permit which means no inspections either.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      Yikes.....That for sure won't pass code.

  • @pesthunteroutdoors
    @pesthunteroutdoors Рік тому +2

    I'm surprised you didn't run two separate circuits out there overdue is what you do😊 wonderful job of explaining of the installation of the electrical

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +2

      Just wait, I've got 10/2 uf for more circuits when I build the deck.

    • @pesthunteroutdoors
      @pesthunteroutdoors Рік тому

      You got me on that one

    • @pesthunteroutdoors
      @pesthunteroutdoors Рік тому

      Did you see all the low voltage LED deck lighting at Lowe's

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      No I haven't seen those.

  • @markb.1259
    @markb.1259 Рік тому

    Great Video Andrew!!!

  • @LouieFLEXx
    @LouieFLEXx 4 місяці тому

    Watched your video and passed my pool inspection cause of you thank you

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  4 місяці тому

      Awesome! Very happy to hear that.

  • @sharonurschel6753
    @sharonurschel6753 Рік тому

    Oh my goodness! I never knew there was so much to putting in a pool! But it’s better to be safe than sorry. I know you don’t want anyone to get injured because you cut corners on setting up the pool. Have a great day and enjoy the pool!😀

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I did not realize how many rules there were either 🤷

  • @workingmanrondoyle3287
    @workingmanrondoyle3287 Рік тому

    Very detailed Andrew 👍🏻👍🏻. The one thing I caught that you didn't mention was that an outside circuit for plug and cord connections has to be T/P with WR written on the face of the receptacle = tamper proof & weather resistant/rated. I always love watching your videos! Keep up the great work my friend.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      The crazy thing about that (hate TP BTW) is the twist lock that your forced to use. Good luck finding a WR twist lock anywhere. The couple I could find are cord to cord connections, or come in through wall versions. I didn't see any that were designed to fit in a weatherproof enclosure. Get's frustrating following all these rules. Some seem necessary, some are just going overboard. Take care

    • @workingmanrondoyle3287
      @workingmanrondoyle3287 Рік тому

      @@TKCL I agree with you 100% about the code going overboard with some of this. I've never heard of the mandatory uses of twist locks on pool pumps. I'll study up on that. I have been doing a few outside outlets for sewer lift stations in Maryland. Tp & WR GFCI and outlets are readily available in my area. No shortage here.

  • @LuJustLu
    @LuJustLu Рік тому

    Great episode! There's so much I didn't know. This was very educational. Thank you

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching

  • @IIcucucoolio
    @IIcucucoolio Рік тому

    One of the best things I did to stop overflowing when it rains was drilling a small hole into the side of the skimmer basket and use a pex pipe adapter to attach a small hole. Then just use a small discharge drainage line that is similar to the ones an HVAC uses to drain the water as it gets too high. Your pool will never get too full.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      That will work with small rain storms, but for example the severe weather we get here (like last night) can literally dump inches of rain in an hour. I need a heavy discharge for hurricanes and the like.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I like that idea though

  • @magnum12pm
    @magnum12pm Рік тому

    I'm a new subscriber. You do a great job of explaining HOW and Why! There are many things to learn, even if you will never install a pool. Great job!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the support and watching.

  • @WelcmeTo1984
    @WelcmeTo1984 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video! You got another subscriber! Also, in fairness, you're bonding to achieve grounding, so no one should be chirping about your terminology! Keep up the great work!!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @robbehr8806
    @robbehr8806 Рік тому +1

    Good video! I didn't notice a GFCI protector. Do you have one somewhere in the circuit?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Every receptacle is GFI and the load out covers the twist lock receptacle. Thanks!

  • @RJ-cc1fz
    @RJ-cc1fz Рік тому

    Very informative video. I think it’s a better idea to use water tight conduit connections to the timer

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Don't disagree with you there. The timer does contain drain holes.

  • @PTIElectric
    @PTIElectric 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for your video it's good information and it's correct grounding and bonding is really important. It's funny to read some comments especially as an electrician when you see how dangerous some people's pool and stalls are where they didn't even consider grounding and bonding or half of what you've got here. Lol

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  8 місяців тому

      No kidding, people keep telling me they feel a shock in their pool and they are OK with it 😬

  • @jimanon5681
    @jimanon5681 Рік тому

    Great job Andrew 👍. In my area ( Lee County, Fl.) The ladder has to be bonded, even though the ladder is in the water.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I think that's the same here as well as deck railings.

  • @ryanzynda5114
    @ryanzynda5114 Рік тому

    Great educational video. Thank you for sharing. 😀

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching

  • @LorenTedford
    @LorenTedford Рік тому

    You should see the Motorola R56 Manual the grounding and bonding is nuts.. Google it should be available in a pdf file. By the way we use that type of wire for making dipoles for amateur radio! Works great!!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Cool, thanks

    • @BIGRICKLITTLERICK
      @BIGRICKLITTLERICK Місяць тому

      Questions, could I go from the skimmer basket first then to the pool wall, then to the metal uprights equally around the pool and then keeping it underground till I finish at the pool pump motor? I'm kinda of a nut when keeping things looking tidy! Tusks again for the video. Will be doing this asap with the confidence I got from this video!!!

    • @LorenTedford
      @LorenTedford Місяць тому

      @@BIGRICKLITTLERICK I am assuming your talking about grounding here. On our repeater tower we put in 2014 ish we did one grounding rod per leg of the tower and then tied in the 2 gauge grounding Loop that connected the rest of the shop radio room etc and then the final stop was at the electrical ground. My advice is if you got questions run it by your local electrician but our concern was with a 72 foot tower in the air its like a giant lightning rod. Oh and we have only been hit once hard enough for for a full replacement. I am assuming we have been hit more than that but we never had to replace all the gear on the hit except for that one time. Some of the guys we use to know in the industry most of them retired now tell stores of fires because of the lightening strikes The swear by the motorola R56 manual and its grounding and bonding section.

  • @harrisondahne7940
    @harrisondahne7940 5 місяців тому +6

    love the video, however 250.8 states you need a machine type screw backed by a nut that has at least two threads engaged or a machine type screw going into a tapped hole that has at least two threads engaged to attach those bonding lugs equally spaced around perimeter of the pool. Self tapping screws are not an approved connection.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому +4

      Good to know, I should have done bolts BEFORE filling the pool.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Рік тому

    Great information. I had no idea so much was involved... 🙂

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +2

      Me either 🤣

  • @pointblank6467
    @pointblank6467 Рік тому

    Thank you kind sir!

  • @80Sparky
    @80Sparky 5 місяців тому +1

    The voltage of your pump doesn't dictate your wire size, the FLA (full load amperage) will determine that. A pump won't require 10awg wire because it's 220v nor will it need 12awg because it's 120v. In actuality a 220v pump of the same HP as the 120v would be able to use the smaller wire (i.e 12awg) because it's amp draw will be roughly half as much as the 120v pump. Also thhn!wire is very common wire, available at most any hardware or home improvement store.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      Yes it's absolutely amperage AND length of the run.

  • @johnw9874
    @johnw9874 4 місяці тому

    Nice video and very informative.
    I agree with the posts about needing machine thread's for the bonding.
    On long wire runs, such as this, going up in size of the conductors is a good idea to reduce voltage drop that could cause over heating of the electrical equipment and wires.
    Here's some simple math that might help someone without too technical and stay within the "80%" rules.
    20 amp circuit (wire / breaker)
    20 x .80 = 16 amp max
    Same for a 30 amp circuit
    30 x .8 = 24 amps max
    Another way is by rated load.
    Pump motor is rated for 12 amps
    12 x 1.25% = 15 amps required (still within the 80% rule)
    Let's say they pump motor is rated for 13.0 amps slightly more current draw.
    13.0 x 1.25 = 16.25 amps (Over the 80% rules)
    This would require a 30 amp branch circuit and 10 guage wire.
    Hope this helps someone

  • @tomd.7325
    @tomd.7325 3 місяці тому

    What's great about this is your body is being grounded when you swim however being connected to the main ground you get a lot of electrical noise from your other components I don't know why they don't let you have a dedicated copper stake in the ground next to the pool that's what I'm going to do

  • @tonymengela3575
    @tonymengela3575 Рік тому

    Dude you remind me of couch I had for a teacher in the 80s when I lived in Jay Fl. I both loved and hated that place and now I wish for Munson Fl.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      I'm hoping your coach was a great guy 😬

    • @tonymengela3575
      @tonymengela3575 Рік тому

      @@TKCL Yeah he was my autoshop teach, loved auto and agg

  • @kr35nn
    @kr35nn 7 місяців тому +1

    Twist-lock receptacle is no longer required. Reason being is that the convenience receptacle can not be a twist-lock, so no point in requiring it for pump. Also, a disconnect is required for the pump that “shall be readily accessible and within sight from its equipment.” That looks like a long way away but I guess it is still readily accessible. The problem is that if someone uses a twist-lock receptacle and doesn’t have a disconnect, the cord and plug could not be counted as a disconnect I wouldn’t think. As a cord and plug usually counts as a disconnect.

  • @louisd95714
    @louisd95714 Рік тому

    This is fantastic work. I think the only thing I would have done differently is use a smart timer vs a mechanical timer. This way, it can be set form a phone rather than having to venture outside. But that's the laziness in me.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      That's what my package deal came with. Plus I've noticed in life mechanical seems to outlast electronics.

  • @maelynbees430
    @maelynbees430 Рік тому

    Great information. Thanks for your time and expertise. Can you add to your list to do a video on the ionizer, please?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      There's not much to show with the ionizer, but I will report out how it's doing. So far the pool is staying clear.

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 Рік тому

    Wow, that's a lot of info! Great job 👏

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thanks!

    • @jp34604
      @jp34604 Рік тому

      Question how come you changed your mind about the propane tank ?
      At the beginning I believe you said you didn't want it away from the house for a specific reason

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      For looks was the main reason.. I changed my mind when the world started getting a little crazier, unpredictable and politicians got a brilliant idea to start banning propane appliances. That tank has about 4+ years of capacity in it for me with normal use. Not to mention I had no idea the huge savings I can get by buying propane in bulk. Like $600 a fill up discount 💵💵

    • @jp34604
      @jp34604 Рік тому

      @@TKCL
      Oh how very convenient that the company neglected to remember to mention that to you when you were ordering the service buyer beware!
      Hell you should do a video just on that information alone.
      You know you can make a video just sitting at your desk and talking to the camera podcast Style you don't have to be doing something every time imho.
      Or maybe do a short?

  • @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
    @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 Рік тому

    Thanks
    Bonding & Grounding =
    same system with my individual PV Solar Panels ...
    Bonding LUGS to the Framework ... 6 AWG bare Copper to all the LUGS & ultimately to the Surge-Protector & then to Earth Ground ...
    BONDED & then GROUNDED in my Combiner-Box & Surge-Protector ...
    ...
    COOP ...
    the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA
    ...

  • @robertcribb3859
    @robertcribb3859 Рік тому +3

    With the plethora of information that you have on almost every darn thing a new name may be in order for you. Professor Andy

  • @mib20000
    @mib20000 Рік тому

    I had a pool like that in 2006 and my electrician installed a box I guess is for a fault breaker I think - then ran the wires outside 18" underground to a 4x4 post and put a switch and a twist lock plug for the pump. the only ground they did was a lug attached to one pool leg and then too a ground rod in the ground.. guess it was updated since then

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Still a lot of pools out there that don't meet code.

  • @legacychop
    @legacychop Рік тому +1

    NEC states 18”-24” from pool water edge for bond wire distance.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Please provide the code, what I read in local codes per NEC stated 12 inches away and minimum of 6 inches of depth with 4 attachment points evenly spaced.

    • @legacychop
      @legacychop Рік тому

      680.26(2)(b)(4)

  • @FJ-vw9rn
    @FJ-vw9rn 6 місяців тому

    amazing!! best video on bonding pool on youtube

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      Glad you think so!

  • @bobbyh6293
    @bobbyh6293 5 місяців тому

    Great job Buddy!

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @ittech4695
    @ittech4695 Місяць тому

    Hello Kelley's Country Life what wiring type did you use to run for your pool pump? What grounding block did you use?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Місяць тому

      Ground block was already installed in my GE sub panel. The wire was 12/2 twisted pair with ground, also known as submersible pump wiring. You must use wire WITH a coated ground. It can not be direct burial wire.

  • @billsistrunk6058
    @billsistrunk6058 Рік тому

    Great job on this video. Quick question: at about 26:53 you show another box below the box for the twistlock receptical. What is it for? Is it just another service receptical? Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      That's on the same timer switch to run my ionizer when the pool pump is on.

    • @billsistrunk6058
      @billsistrunk6058 Рік тому

      @@TKCLgot it. Thanks for responding.

  • @ronbonick4265
    @ronbonick4265 Рік тому

    subscribed I was from FL ( Tampa area) moved to TN

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you for the support

  • @mfd4505
    @mfd4505 Рік тому

    Nice 20A GFCI

  • @ronbonick4265
    @ronbonick4265 Рік тому

    Great Video .. the only thing I would question is cutting the pool pump cord If its a pump and made for pools then its factory equipment and unless the factory recommends cutting it youve modified factory equipment which technically also is a violation or transfer of liability

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      But code also specifically states the plug must be twist locking design. You won't pass without that plug.

  • @Chipgillette
    @Chipgillette Рік тому

    Aways some great content. Thanks.👮🏻‍♂️Chip

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @kippy7288
    @kippy7288 Рік тому

    I am an electrician and in article 680 it requires a number 8 bare copper wire 7:23 you did say number 8 or 6 I just wanted to clarify it is a number 8, other than that great video 👍

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I ordered whatever code said right when I read it, so it's #8.

  • @brianbrady9475
    @brianbrady9475 Рік тому

    I added to our pool a 10ft ground rod. Located at the pump. I didn't know about bonding the filter or the pool wall. Out post on ours is plastic. But I could do it where the pool wall is connected. Not sure how to bond anywhere else on the wall

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      That's actually against code if you tied any electrical ground into it.

    • @brianbrady9475
      @brianbrady9475 Рік тому

      @@TKCL no I only went to that bonding post on the motor

  • @nathangrepke4193
    @nathangrepke4193 6 місяців тому

    Your service recep is how your twist lock is being protected right? And you can use that for lights for the pool and the pump? You did not run two circuits right?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      You need to verify that with your local code as they might require a dedicated circuit. I have also been hearing the twist lock rule is changing.

  • @jab-pt3pc
    @jab-pt3pc 8 місяців тому

    I have a deck a quarter of the way around my pool. I can get under it but I don't think I can actually dig a 6" trench. Does the wire have to be buried 6 inches down all the way around the pool?

  • @SteveStowell
    @SteveStowell 6 місяців тому

    Just use metal pipe and don’t have to worry about direction. Beside metal required here

  • @johnsoper6931
    @johnsoper6931 Рік тому +1

    My kids are grown and I get skin cancer so my pool is now a fish pond 🐟😂

  • @lisar670
    @lisar670 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video. I've decided to save myself a ton of money and install the bonding wire myself. I am going to purchase all of the products you link in the video, but what type/size of self tapping screws should I get?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  7 місяців тому +1

      It's best to use bolts if you can access the backside of the pillars.

  • @chrisavila2073
    @chrisavila2073 Рік тому +2

    With all the wire being ruin you could have put up the Zipline

  • @dougpavone4336
    @dougpavone4336 5 місяців тому

    Bro, great video. Thank You.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it!

  • @michaelruys5021
    @michaelruys5021 7 місяців тому

    Great instructional

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  7 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @ryanpopken9870
    @ryanpopken9870 Рік тому

    Do you have a waste pipe or hose attached to your filter? I suggest this so you do not get a mud hole next to your pool.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      I currently do not, I let it waste out in the yard from a short pipe so it spreads out. I'm 3 weeks into running this and I've only went up 1 PSI on my pressure gauge, at this rate I will not be back flushing very often.

  • @madampolo
    @madampolo Рік тому

    Where do you learn all of these things? I'm just amazed at how much you do know. I'm sure it took a lot of research and such. Thank you, Andrew! I'm looking forward to the deck, landscaping, etc. Take care of your back.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      When I want to tackle a new job, I spend time reading and learning before I start it. UA-cam is always a huge help.

    • @madampolo
      @madampolo Рік тому

      @@TKCL When you were standing by your electrical panel, your house spread out behind you. I thought, my gosh, this man built that house, put up that siding, painted it, etc. as well as groomed and seeded all that pasture. I have been watching you since you had the house slab poured and then I had to go back and watch earlier videos. You have a lot to be proud of with that awesome place. Thank you for the work it takes to produce these great videos.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you, I do feel proud.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thank you, I do feel proud.

  • @brandonharris305
    @brandonharris305 5 місяців тому

    U.f cable ground is completely insulated

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      It does not pass code. It requires an independently separate and insulated ground. Do as you wish.

    • @brandonharris305
      @brandonharris305 5 місяців тому

      @@TKCL I've passed 3 this week

    • @brandonharris305
      @brandonharris305 5 місяців тому

      @TKCL no where in the code does it state you can not use u.f cable nor is there any amendments

    • @brandonharris305
      @brandonharris305 5 місяців тому

      Only time can't use if is to pool luminaries

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому +1

      @@brandonharris305 it absolutely will not pass here and other places. You need to read NEC 680.21 well. You cannot in my situation and many circumstances use UF-B as a suitable wiring choice. Just because your inspector passed it does not mean it's correct. A lot of times inspectors don't know the rules themselves. It's based on distance, type of motor, bonding ect.

  • @jonathangreenawalt5724
    @jonathangreenawalt5724 Рік тому

    Ik you dont have much freezing temperatures down there, but how are you going to protect the spigot you just installed by the pool to refill it from freezing temperatures?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      Florida, very rare we deal with that. And I'll drip it like I do the other 10 spigots on the property.

  • @etmeyutub
    @etmeyutub 5 місяців тому

    My wires are red and black. So is red the hot and black the neutral? So I would wire my red like you have your black and my black like you have your white?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      Sounds like you might have a 240v pump, you need to verify that. That's completely different wiring.

  • @dx7guy
    @dx7guy 7 місяців тому

    Excellent .. installing my first above ground pool .. you have really given me an education on how to do it .. THANK YOU
    Just to offer a few thoughts to the discussion ...
    a) Would it be okay to put a weather-proof Master Switch on post, ahead of everything ? Just in Case of Murphy's Law
    I know you can switch pump on/off with timer switch with 'little' level .. but with Wet hands ??Maybe Not !
    b) Having water available near pump is handy .. till fill pool & clean filters
    but over time is there a chance 'condensation' might compromise conduit ?
    c) Before senior- citizen - downside, we did have an in -ground pool ... was curious how my plumbing & electrical deteriorated over the years.
    So, why not put a Covering or little Roof over the Pump & Electrical .. maybe a little Shed that could also hold pool chemicals or Ice Machine :)
    THANK's Again - EXCELLENT VIDEO

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  7 місяців тому

      Pump house is coming soon. As for the cut off switch, I cannot answer that. It might be against code to break the wire before entering the main switch, you would need to verify that.
      No fear of water getting in the conduit, its glued and sealed. You must use conduit when running stranded non shielded wire like I did, code will require that.

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 Рік тому

    The phyical difference in a bonded circuit versus a grounded one is that it does not contain any device in line between it and earth which could insert / introduce any degree of resistance (DC/AC) or impedance (AC only) to impede the flow of electrons which require a "gradient" or more energy on one side than the other through a conductor calculated by voltage over distance. The flow continues until the circuit reaches a common potential or equal charge and electrons no longer flow between any two points.
    Or when everything is truly directly connected to earth ground and at a potential difference of zero volts between any two electrically conductive paths.
    Just put your tongue on a 9 volt battery to demonstrate 😂

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Good information, I should have known you would have plenty of knowledge on the subject.

    • @jp34604
      @jp34604 Рік тому

      This can be easily demonstrated by taking a digital voltage meter measuring between the ground and neutral leg on a receptacle.
      Typically in any urban environment you will see a few or more millivolts of potential difference in energy due to capacitive reactance.
      The galvanized steel cold water pipe is the urban equivalent of a grounding rod and is often a single point of failure which can build up resistance impeding the flow to ground - a critical component ...
      UL Listed Heavy Duty Grounding pipe clamp
      ASIN B0BM5N6S9F
      A common misconception is that electricity will ...
      "take the path of least resistance."
      Rather it takes all paths available
      "In an inverse proportion to the impedance of the paths."
      Current will simultaneously flow through all available paths to a lower gradient potential of energy.
      So you want to be certain that the correct one is as close to perfect as possible.
      Every house has one check yours for corrosion.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      Thats another reason code requires two ground rods and two points of contact.

    • @opitz36
      @opitz36 8 місяців тому

      @@TKCLis there not a requirement for a separate ground rod for the bonding?? If you put one in near the pool, I missed it.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  8 місяців тому

      @@opitz36 here you tie all electrical equipment back to the main house ground rods. Thus the need for an insulated green ground wire. Check your local code.

  • @jackjoshlin
    @jackjoshlin Рік тому

    have you considered a VFD pump for better efficiency?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому

      No, I just bought a package deal and a variable pump wasn't offered. I am considering a lower flow solar pump.

  • @slappadabass3290
    @slappadabass3290 7 місяців тому

    Where did you bond all the 8ga together? From filter, pool supports, and pump

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      It's one continuous loop all the way around the pool bonded to 4 evenly spaced supports. I looped back through one support, up to the skimmer plate and ended it at the pool pump. You don't want to break the wire at any location, you are asking for corrosion and a poor connection.

  • @johnj2748
    @johnj2748 5 місяців тому

    I’m starting this process now, I have the skimmer plate but my concern is… none of my uprights contact metal. The top and bottom caps are plastic, the uprights barely touch the walls, none of the top rail plates touch the walls or one another either.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      Per code I would still do it. You also should have a bolted together seam on the metal wall. Make sure you connect there as well.

  • @edgarflores9064
    @edgarflores9064 5 місяців тому

    I have a question though does the bare ground you have to run it from the panel or just around the pool and the pump?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому +1

      Just around the pool to the pump. That's bonding. Don't forget there is a ground inside the Conduit ran to the pump wires. That comes from the panel.

    • @edgarflores9064
      @edgarflores9064 5 місяців тому

      Thanks appreciate you bro

  • @richardscarlett7942
    @richardscarlett7942 Рік тому +1

    I went to check out Vevor because of your videos talking about them. Are you aware that they are using your video and likeness on their website about the mag drill at the bottom of the home page? Just mentioning it incase you werent aware.

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +2

      Yes, it actually helps me because if you click on that video I get views on UA-cam. They asked my permission before posting.

    • @richardscarlett7942
      @richardscarlett7942 Рік тому +1

      @@TKCL cool, was just looking out.

  • @brandonharris305
    @brandonharris305 5 місяців тому

    And you don't have to do #10 if your doing 240 actually the amps drop with higher voltage.. need to go by f.l.a on motor and distance to Guage wire size

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      While there's some truth to that, you'll never see anyone running a 240v load on anything less than 10 gauge wire. As amps go up, so does wire size.

    • @brandonharris305
      @brandonharris305 5 місяців тому

      @TKCL I do...I use the motor to Guage my wire and distance....I'm just saying if your going to teach don't teach how everyone does it or no one does it teach it how the book says

  • @cantweallgetalong
    @cantweallgetalong 2 місяці тому

    Why is your pump using a plug and cord? Hard wire in liquid tight 1/2" flexible conduit, yes?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  2 місяці тому

      My local code specifically stated to use a twist lock plug. I did not want any issues.

  • @MrGadget77015
    @MrGadget77015 Рік тому

    With all this being said and done, I just had a pool company install myself a new 24 foot pool with metal sides and I informed him that it needed bounded up to the new 1hp motor which has a grouding lug and he said most of its resin materials and it not needed, so now what should I do?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  Рік тому +1

      It's required is my understanding.

    • @SteveStowell
      @SteveStowell 6 місяців тому +1

      Don’t pay them as work is not compliant

  • @rollinsmoke821
    @rollinsmoke821 4 місяці тому

    Where did you get the bonding lug for the pool wall seam? Or did it come with the wire?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  4 місяці тому

      Its a simple wire eye lug for electrical wire. You can find them at any hardware store.

    • @rollinsmoke821
      @rollinsmoke821 4 місяці тому

      @@TKCLthanks! I’m about to run a bonding wire around an above ground salt water pool with resin legs and top railing. From what I understand, bonding to the legs isn’t required as they’re not metal. But I will be trenching around the pool, laying the wire starting at the wall seam all the way around to the skimmer, ending at the pump.

  • @hv2268
    @hv2268 6 місяців тому

    Is it normal to not have an “on” tripper? Mine only has the off and the one that you shouldn’t unscrew

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      I'm not familiar with all the switches, I personally want an automatic on and off switch.

  • @joshmc4328
    @joshmc4328 6 місяців тому

    So you're saying they won't let you use no liquid tight conduit from the pump to the timer. The pump must be able to be unplugged?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      That "was" the rule, but I've heard it has changed.

  • @rafaelarita3956
    @rafaelarita3956 7 місяців тому

    Good video brother, what is the black device in top of you skimmer ?

  • @jenniferjones5156
    @jenniferjones5156 6 місяців тому

    I have a question. Do you know anything about using filter balls instead of sand

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому

      No I don't, this is the only filter I have ever used.

  • @jessicachaddondrea8797
    @jessicachaddondrea8797 6 місяців тому

    How do you tie in your copper bonding wire to the house electrical?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому +1

      Bonding and grounding are two different things. You tie the pump electrical to house ground via the wiring ran from my sub panel.

    • @jessicachaddondrea8797
      @jessicachaddondrea8797 6 місяців тому

      @@TKCL ok so my question is what do I do with that copper wire once I have it bonded to my pool side, uprights, water (skimmer), and pump?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому +1

      @jessicachaddondrea8797 nothing, you made a complete bonding loop that's buried and terminates at the pump lug.

    • @jessicachaddondrea8797
      @jessicachaddondrea8797 6 місяців тому

      Thank you

  • @HomeJames-t3p
    @HomeJames-t3p 5 місяців тому

    So I have a Hayward pump as a spare it's brand new and the old one is 3 years old but it doesn't have where I can connect the copper wire can you make a suggestion and if this is cold now what do we do when we have a pool like mine that doesn't have this bonding I'm just wondering is this an Overkill because never had to do it before?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  5 місяців тому

      It's code, but could be a little overkill. I am not sure why your pump does not have a bonding lug.

  • @jonzeejonez4585
    @jonzeejonez4585 7 місяців тому

    Is this required all above ground pools...

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  7 місяців тому

      You need to check your local code, it usually is and sometimes more.

  • @poppatello
    @poppatello 6 місяців тому

    How did you tie each end together? You only show one end around the whole pool l, going to the skimmer, then to the pump. Where is the end of the wire go?

    • @TKCL
      @TKCL  6 місяців тому +1

      You make a continuous loop, never cut it. I started at one post and looped all the way around back to that post, clamping two wires together. I then kept going up to the skimmer plate and then down to the motor were it ended. One big continuous loop ending at the motor is what you want.