@@ilija.8548There are 2 meanings that are used in his streams to be fair. pulling a "W"irtual is the other one, which is when he somehow against all odds still manages to get a PB/Author/Record or any other achievement so suddenly even if the run is worse than his others
Well the community says pulling a Wirtual means to choke whilst wirtual says its when you clutch. So naturally it has become a double meaning phrase but originally it was only when someone chokes
They are doing this since the Zera cup (Zerator's competition before switching to "Ascension") on big jumps and sometimes in looping. The crowd was very limited here because of a last minute failure of the planed stadium area in Paris, which was flooded. They had to cancel and find another place in another city. It ended up with a very small place (which we still are happy for, cancellation of the whole semi-final would have been worse). I think there is 40 people which is stupidly low compare to how many would have come. Yet they managed to make you feel the audience.
Thanks for exposing me to this tournament, this is so awesome. I always ran into the Ascension maps and hated them in-game, but watching amazing players on them is so good
It's tricky to make rules which are both simple enough (easy to understand) and interesting. But I agree. At the qualifiers (which were AWESOME to watch btw), the "quicker get rewarded" was a great format. The top players were trying to get a quick time to eliminate as many people as possible. But some were using the opportunity to get some "popularity" points, such as Gwen who at least one time completely CRUSHED the competition, but waited right next to the finish line for something like 30 seconds (and still took the first place just before the second, activating the watch cam). Next round, Carl Jr was first by a good margin too, but he immediately finished, getting some mean comment (it was ironic and kindly making fun of him, Carl Jr is the goat and everybody acknowledge that). Once the competition is limited, a "survival" elimination format is good. It makes the game goes longer, and it's great to change a bit the kind of gameplay you reward. Btw, it's surprising how professionnal casters still all went for Gwen. Both Zerator and Wirtual did say before their own prediction "btw this format is more for consistency, thus Gwen who is a big risker player is in trouble", yet they couldn't change their mindset and still saw him as the favorite. In the end, I still prefer the "get 120 points and then win" format (used for the semi-finals, 2x8 players). I think it would have been better to reverse that. Use the "consistency" format for the semis. Then classic "points and win" format for the finals. Or something like you suggested. Winning being reward in this "last lost a life" format would have help keeping Gwen on track. It was a fair format, just a bit inefficient for the show to punish the riskers (I have the same problem with cup of the day).
@@huyxiun2085 I don't agree and prefer the Knockout format for finals In knockout, players start with a wide margin for error, which narrows as time goes by, and towards the end it's a battle to see who comes out on top. Each round is useful to the game, since at the end of each round, one player is closer to defeat. I find it much more hype and fair than the Cup format. In KO, clutching an entire game requires more skill than in Cup, where you can go from the bottom to winning by having lucky cuts a few times in a row. KO mode requires to be always constant, which, in my opinion, is much more appropriate and skill based for a tournament than Cup (there is also an insane hype) I think Cup is good and super hype for big lobbies, but for small lobbies with small to no skill gaps, I think KO is better And rewarding the first player in KO is kinda stupid since KO's aim is to do exactly the opposite of the Cup: to put the emphasis on the last rather than the first. It's also possible and viable to take risks in KO, you just have to know WHEN to take a risk (+ it gives more value and hype to people who take risks since we see them less often).
I think maybe bottom 2 lose a life, top 1 gains 1? That should net the same life loss every round. Make the life gain turn off for final 3 and it just be last loses 1.
I've noticed small patterns on shirts mess with OBS' or NVIDIA's Anti Aliasing effect for webcams, have the same problem on my OBS virtual camera (you can see how the effect is trying to 'smooth out' the pattern on Wirt's shirt). Just a friendly reminder!
It's not really an anti aliasing effect as this will happen straigh from the camera if the pattern was smaller or there were less pixels. There is just too much detail for the amount of pixels available, so this can appear when downscaling. This is called the moiré effect, or simply alisaing. But AA can't really do much in these situations with these kind of small patterns.
It was explained in the 1st video : all of the 8 players of the 1st step will participate in the final in Montpellier (3rd step). Another round (2nd step) will occur in... a couple of months, and 8 new participants will be seleted for the final (in Montpellier) The eliminated from 1st step can still participate in step 2. So it is still possible to see CarlJr in the final although he was eliminated.
Comment before watching: As a French I obviously already watched it. But I'm still looking forward to re-watch it with your perspective. With all due respect for Zerator and Etoile, they are just decent commentators. Great content creators, popular for good reasons and putting that popularity to the benefit of the game event, and Zerator is an awesome producer. But still. To be fair, we don't really have any awesome French caster in Trackmania that I know of. We do in e.g. Rocket League (to French speaking people, look it up, "Rocket baguette" channel, it's a whole team, you'll have a blast). But it seems Trackmania is a bit too "niche".
Yep, ended up reviewing the full cast. You ARE entertaining Wirtual ;-) (and I'm glad you controlled yourself with the Pyramids :p it's fine it's one of your passion and you are free to talk about whatever you want, I just happen to be one of these easy-hater :p)
Commentary is amazing but source material with those camera jumps is sometimes horrible. Without Wirtual I would have no idea sometimes what is going on.
I wish they let Wirtual be in charge of what the camera is looking at. France is terrible with camera placement and covering the screen while they're driving.
@@codylawson1257the hostility is random but 21 and 25 are the hardest author times by a long way yeah, you need to drive considerably more clean to get them. They’re not necessarily the hardest tracks to finish though - I think 25 is pretty simple - they’re just slightly more challenging ATs
I mean.. it's kind of dumb for Otaaaq to not practice the skip as much as he should've. What it looked like to me, a guy just banking on other's failing it as he goes safe.
That final was the _peak_ demonstration of "Pulling a wirtuaL" and "Pulling a Wirtual".
Pulling a Wirtual has only one meaning... Choking in a promising position
@@ilija.8548There are 2 meanings that are used in his streams to be fair. pulling a "W"irtual is the other one, which is when he somehow against all odds still manages to get a PB/Author/Record or any other achievement so suddenly even if the run is worse than his others
Well the community says pulling a Wirtual means to choke whilst wirtual says its when you clutch. So naturally it has become a double meaning phrase but originally it was only when someone chokes
i love the crowd "weeeee" when they all jump in map 1
They are doing this since the Zera cup (Zerator's competition before switching to "Ascension") on big jumps and sometimes in looping.
The crowd was very limited here because of a last minute failure of the planed stadium area in Paris, which was flooded.
They had to cancel and find another place in another city. It ended up with a very small place (which we still are happy for, cancellation of the whole semi-final would have been worse).
I think there is 40 people which is stupidly low compare to how many would have come. Yet they managed to make you feel the audience.
What a final. I'm not that into the competitive side of track mania but this was a hell of a final.
He really missed an opportunity to talk about internal ramps during that lag.
Does he know about the "slalom on internal ramp" theory?
Thanks for exposing me to this tournament, this is so awesome. I always ran into the Ascension maps and hated them in-game, but watching amazing players on them is so good
What a production this tournament.
it was going to be even bigger and better if the original venue didn't flood :(
Fun fact : zerator did not intended to build a way on pyra-arrivée, player had to do pathfinding to understand how to make it to the end
Would be cool if there was a reward for winning. Like 4 or 6 wins grants an extra life.
Maybe winning by more than a second
The last race of each round could be the winner get a life
It's tricky to make rules which are both simple enough (easy to understand) and interesting. But I agree.
At the qualifiers (which were AWESOME to watch btw), the "quicker get rewarded" was a great format.
The top players were trying to get a quick time to eliminate as many people as possible. But some were using the opportunity to get some "popularity" points, such as Gwen who at least one time completely CRUSHED the competition, but waited right next to the finish line for something like 30 seconds (and still took the first place just before the second, activating the watch cam). Next round, Carl Jr was first by a good margin too, but he immediately finished, getting some mean comment (it was ironic and kindly making fun of him, Carl Jr is the goat and everybody acknowledge that).
Once the competition is limited, a "survival" elimination format is good. It makes the game goes longer, and it's great to change a bit the kind of gameplay you reward. Btw, it's surprising how professionnal casters still all went for Gwen. Both Zerator and Wirtual did say before their own prediction "btw this format is more for consistency, thus Gwen who is a big risker player is in trouble", yet they couldn't change their mindset and still saw him as the favorite.
In the end, I still prefer the "get 120 points and then win" format (used for the semi-finals, 2x8 players).
I think it would have been better to reverse that. Use the "consistency" format for the semis. Then classic "points and win" format for the finals.
Or something like you suggested. Winning being reward in this "last lost a life" format would have help keeping Gwen on track. It was a fair format, just a bit inefficient for the show to punish the riskers (I have the same problem with cup of the day).
@@huyxiun2085 I don't agree and prefer the Knockout format for finals
In knockout, players start with a wide margin for error, which narrows as time goes by, and towards the end it's a battle to see who comes out on top. Each round is useful to the game, since at the end of each round, one player is closer to defeat. I find it much more hype and fair than the Cup format. In KO, clutching an entire game requires more skill than in Cup, where you can go from the bottom to winning by having lucky cuts a few times in a row. KO mode requires to be always constant, which, in my opinion, is much more appropriate and skill based for a tournament than Cup (there is also an insane hype)
I think Cup is good and super hype for big lobbies, but for small lobbies with small to no skill gaps, I think KO is better
And rewarding the first player in KO is kinda stupid since KO's aim is to do exactly the opposite of the Cup: to put the emphasis on the last rather than the first. It's also possible and viable to take risks in KO, you just have to know WHEN to take a risk (+ it gives more value and hype to people who take risks since we see them less often).
I think maybe bottom 2 lose a life, top 1 gains 1? That should net the same life loss every round.
Make the life gain turn off for final 3 and it just be last loses 1.
Arthanir's cut on map 5... Huge potential for big final !
Wish they were better at selecting the pov. Otherwise this was great.
Okay, I really want to see the WR of the map with that insane end xDDD
I guess Bren has it xD
Ahh yes - that one map with the insane end...
Looking forward to the next races, great casting too with a contrawirtual commentary 😂
Gwen was on 1hp for sooo long haha
insert 500 million A shape into middle of map. hahaha. Just bonkers. So so good.
*any map appears
Wirtual: that is a really difficult map
because they are
Pyrarrivée transaltes litterally to "Worst ending" with a pun. Zerator is known to make really hard maps
So, what did you think of the 3 lifes knock-out format? Was it good? Was it fun? Was it competitive?
nice VOD
So good! Really exciting!!
the pronunciation "Après en sillon" -> Apprehension
I've noticed small patterns on shirts mess with OBS' or NVIDIA's Anti Aliasing effect for webcams, have the same problem on my OBS virtual camera (you can see how the effect is trying to 'smooth out' the pattern on Wirt's shirt). Just a friendly reminder!
It's not really an anti aliasing effect as this will happen straigh from the camera if the pattern was smaller or there were less pixels. There is just too much detail for the amount of pixels available, so this can appear when downscaling.
This is called the moiré effect, or simply alisaing. But AA can't really do much in these situations with these kind of small patterns.
Now imagine this format but they can get lives back if they get wr on the map they went out on
what if binks didnt respawn but just drove further with less speed?
I think it was fragile and he hit the wall making it so the car wouldn't drive
@@ethanpeterson6900 ow ok
Tjalic what a SNIPE!
Omg finally 🎉
Indeed
What I'm interested in is how did they even build the pyramid (map)? :)
These are so great to watch
That is a nice ass setup
Did anyone let Wirtual know it was only 23 and not 24?
I think someone might have mentioned it in chat 😂
Did they explain how many of these 8 go on to play in the actual final?
It was explained in the 1st video : all of the 8 players of the 1st step will participate in the final in Montpellier (3rd step).
Another round (2nd step) will occur in... a couple of months, and 8 new participants will be seleted for the final (in Montpellier)
The eliminated from 1st step can still participate in step 2. So it is still possible to see CarlJr in the final although he was eliminated.
@@shadowofthetree8293 Thank you
@@shadowofthetree8293Hope Carl didn’t get food poisoning lol, I think he will win again.
I liked your 'contrawirtual' joke.
I went for arthniir
Comment before watching:
As a French I obviously already watched it. But I'm still looking forward to re-watch it with your perspective.
With all due respect for Zerator and Etoile, they are just decent commentators. Great content creators, popular for good reasons and putting that popularity to the benefit of the game event, and Zerator is an awesome producer. But still.
To be fair, we don't really have any awesome French caster in Trackmania that I know of. We do in e.g. Rocket League (to French speaking people, look it up, "Rocket baguette" channel, it's a whole team, you'll have a blast). But it seems Trackmania is a bit too "niche".
Yep, ended up reviewing the full cast. You ARE entertaining Wirtual ;-)
(and I'm glad you controlled yourself with the Pyramids :p it's fine it's one of your passion and you are free to talk about whatever you want, I just happen to be one of these easy-hater :p)
@@huyxiun2085 Zerator and Etoile are pretty decent with the commentary. They are also great entertainers so I'm happy with that.
an* insane
Glad to see that it annoyed other people!
@@zal-creates150 It's not all that difficult to annoy me. I'm working on that. Know a good support group?
@@Cloxxki"Confessions of a reformed grammar nazi" by Rosie Driffil might be of some help
@@NomadAlly If only that were my only frustration 🤣 Thanks though!
@@Cloxxkiwell 1 step at a time 😊
Goodnight
7/8 are French 🤔
So weird to see during a french competition run by french organizer and the whole thing takes place in France
@@Smoke-bb6yg yah but players from other countries did try. Just interesting only 1 non French made it to the finals imo
I think we will see more internationals on the second round of qualifications after the exposure of this first event
And the looser retry for the chapter 2 (maybe carljr 🙏🙏)
ding
Wtf are these maps?! ... Oh, they're French! 🥹
Commentary is amazing but source material with those camera jumps is sometimes horrible.
Without Wirtual I would have no idea sometimes what is going on.
I wish they let Wirtual be in charge of what the camera is looking at. France is terrible with camera placement and covering the screen while they're driving.
Don't take anything for granite. The puns....
an insane* (l hope its not some sort of exclusion)
its not
@@gillsejusbates6938 so thats an exclusion? why?
@@animaaadit's not, he said its not an exclusion
@@kamildowejko2254 oh, whatever, he already deleted his comment, so whatever
@@animaaad its not deleted lmao
When looking at those maps I feel like I have played better shitfests maps than this
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what the hell are those tracks? what is wrong with french mappers??? why the obstacles???
it's for the show, not for the players
ZrT mapstyle is iconic my guy
🤣🤣🤣 welcome to TM maaaan
Mate discovers TM xD every year the maps are like that, although this is for me the year where the pressure was the highest
dude, black tracks are easier than red. at least for me. but they're all too difficult if you don't know all the tricks.
I find 15 is the hardest in this campaign to get consistently
Tell me you haven't driven 21 w/o telling me lol
@@codylawson1257 15 and 22 are much more difficult than 21
@@eotikurac 21 and 25 are easily the hardest. You are just plain bad if you struggle that much on blue lol
@@codylawson1257the hostility is random but 21 and 25 are the hardest author times by a long way yeah, you need to drive considerably more clean to get them. They’re not necessarily the hardest tracks to finish though - I think 25 is pretty simple - they’re just slightly more challenging ATs
I mean.. it's kind of dumb for Otaaaq to not practice the skip as much as he should've. What it looked like to me, a guy just banking on other's failing it as he goes safe.
great final, the format is pretty bad though. I want the top players to want to win, not to not lose
obligatory first.
There is constant unintelligilbe robotic noise in the background during the entire video. Please. This is unwatchable.
I don't hear it, and I'm using headphones. That's weird.
didnt hear it.... hmmm
try again with a decent amp and 3 way speakers
@@zeppyuwu yeah thats it
@@zeppyuwu They must be British :D
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