The heal could be nice however we feel that the damage reduction is more beneficial overall in the game, especially as you’d rarely take Double Time over Storm Bolt.
You know, I'm still scratching my head with the whole death wish pvp talent. If your going high risk high reward then it needs to be balanced properly. Dealing and taking 5% increased damage (stacking to 10) while also at the cost of 5% how seems rather stupid as your double dipping in the draw back for the damage, Which has a short duration given the CD and up easy it is to cc and a Looooong ramp up time to get the full stacks. I think a better idea for that would be 10% increased damage at the cost of 5% how and reduce the stacks to 3. Faster ramp up without stupid damage (still strong) while having a risk factor to pay attention to, and it's less devastating if you happen to have your stacks fall off because it only stacks to 3. Good video
also, fury is better with Mastery than versitility, our self sustain is so good right now and master gives us more dmg when enraged which is pretty much all the time due to rampages and bloodthirst :)
While mastery may provide you with more 'PvE' dps, versatility also provides you with damage reduction which can be a very important factor in arena. Joe recommends having a nice balance of the two, and possibly even having multiple sets of gear for more mastery or more versatility depending on what you need for any specific match up.
Hello. The stat priority is Haste and then Versatility. Why not Haste and the Mastery? I think Mastery is a very powerfull stat. Can you explain me why is the worst one in PvP?
CC chains can drop off Enrage often, Versatility increases self healing, and double dips on that healing with reduced damage taken (all a part of the EHP equation) Haste is more Bloodthirsts, more self reliance.
yo fernanduz, im abit confused, why gale force striking, its only 15% and not 35, also isnt quick navigation stronger here? or should i use DOUBLE gale force, quick navigation also reduces the cds on bloodthirst :)
Great catch! We spoke to Joe about this and he said that Quick Navigation is stronger but that they might not stack so you'll want one of each - but if they do stack then you should probably use two.
Id say 1 of each give you the best uptime, since they dont stack :) edit, or they stack so that they give you faster uptime on 15%, but then again the uptime on them is almost up all the time with just 1 so might as well go quick navigation on 1 and 1 gale force , :)
Great guide. My main character is fury/arms. One thing I dont think its totaly true is about horde race. In my opinion after nerf to orcs where your racial against stuns doesnt stack with pvp talent and nerfing that blood fury dmg buff or how is it called. Its not best race for all situations. Of course against rogues its still the best race but I think overal Tauren is heavily underrated. Tauren gives you more stamina. 2percent crit and aoe 2 sec stun is huge. Its another interrupt or you can use it for make your momentum even stronger. What do you think?
We would still recommend Orc because Blood Fury can be paired with offensive cooldowns and almost every team has a stun that your racial can benefit against.
The 2 second tauren stun isn't as good as you think it is for the same reason DK pet stun is usually not worth using on kill targets. If you're playing a comp around stuns a 2 sec stun is almost never worth the DR. Especially since the tauren stun is an aoe. - 2.6 every season since wod
I am a little confused on the rotation when you say #4 would be Execute but you can't use that unless they are at or below 20% or unless your lucky and sudden death procs. Another part that is a little confusing is having both Dragon Roar and Bladestorm in the rotation when you can only choose one of the talents to use. The same thing goes with Furious Slash and Sudden Death. Can you please clarify this?
So that's referring to when you 'can' use execute and it's just telling you where any talents that you may spec into fit into the priority list. If you're not using those talents then just ignore them.
The root break can be insanely valuable against many classes. While it may not have been as desirable in the past, the nerf to humans has made other races catch up in terms of how viable they are.
Fantastic video, super well put together!
Pure perfection. Well done Joe!!
Awesome video, really helped. Time stamps would be massively helpful in the description though. :)
Thanks for the feedback, we'll work on getting these up.
Video shows your warrior killing themselves on thorns at 19:10. Skill capped indeed...
Joe and thorns have special relationships.
that's actually very funny yeah :D
Vs retribuition paladin what is better? offensive or defensive fury spec? Or Arms is at least? Thank you
I would choose the charge heal talent over warpaint, btw the charg heal talent(forgot the name) is op with double time
The heal could be nice however we feel that the damage reduction is more beneficial overall in the game, especially as you’d rarely take Double Time over Storm Bolt.
Link for thé picture of thé dranei warrior ? It IS so cool
Arms or fury for 3s?
You know, I'm still scratching my head with the whole death wish pvp talent. If your going high risk high reward then it needs to be balanced properly.
Dealing and taking 5% increased damage (stacking to 10) while also at the cost of 5% how seems rather stupid as your double dipping in the draw back for the damage, Which has a short duration given the CD and up easy it is to cc and a Looooong ramp up time to get the full stacks. I think a better idea for that would be 10% increased damage at the cost of 5% how and reduce the stacks to 3. Faster ramp up without stupid damage (still strong) while having a risk factor to pay attention to, and it's less devastating if you happen to have your stacks fall off because it only stacks to 3.
Good video
also, fury is better with Mastery than versitility, our self sustain is so good right now and master gives us more dmg when enraged which is pretty much all the time due to rampages and bloodthirst :)
While mastery may provide you with more 'PvE' dps, versatility also provides you with damage reduction which can be a very important factor in arena. Joe recommends having a nice balance of the two, and possibly even having multiple sets of gear for more mastery or more versatility depending on what you need for any specific match up.
that is a good note to mention :)
Hello.
The stat priority is Haste and then Versatility. Why not Haste and the Mastery?
I think Mastery is a very powerfull stat.
Can you explain me why is the worst one in PvP?
CC chains can drop off Enrage often, Versatility increases self healing, and double dips on that healing with reduced damage taken (all a part of the EHP equation) Haste is more Bloodthirsts, more self reliance.
Great Video! Wich classes are coming next?
The next 3 should be for holy paladins, unholy dks and balance druids. We're aiming to have these out for every spec by the end of next week.
@@skillcappedwowpvp Thanks a lot!
what are the potential 2s and 3s comps for this spec?
I would assume something with an MS hunters,rogues and even another arms with you.
yo fernanduz, im abit confused, why gale force striking, its only 15% and not 35, also isnt quick navigation stronger here? or should i use DOUBLE gale force, quick navigation also reduces the cds on bloodthirst :)
Great catch! We spoke to Joe about this and he said that Quick Navigation is stronger but that they might not stack so you'll want one of each - but if they do stack then you should probably use two.
Id say 1 of each give you the best uptime, since they dont stack :) edit, or they stack so that they give you faster uptime on 15%, but then again the uptime on them is almost up all the time with just 1 so might as well go quick navigation on 1 and 1 gale force , :)
In the single target rotation you mention dragon roar as number 8 and blade storm at 9,they are both talents so....
They only apply if you have them talented, otherwise you can ignore them.
Nice guides!we need outlaw rogue please!
It's in production right now and will be edited tomorrow.
Nice!thank you very much!
someone got the link to that female warrior pic at the beginning? really want it as a background
i.imgur.com/TKe9c1v.jpg
thank you so much!
cheffscream believe the artists name is WLOP
Great guide. My main character is fury/arms. One thing I dont think its totaly true is about horde race. In my opinion after nerf to orcs where your racial against stuns doesnt stack with pvp talent and nerfing that blood fury dmg buff or how is it called. Its not best race for all situations. Of course against rogues its still the best race but I think overal Tauren is heavily underrated. Tauren gives you more stamina. 2percent crit and aoe 2 sec stun is huge. Its another interrupt or you can use it for make your momentum even stronger. What do you think?
We would still recommend Orc because Blood Fury can be paired with offensive cooldowns and almost every team has a stun that your racial can benefit against.
Wait, hardiness doesn't stack with relentless anymore?
I am pretty sure it doesnt so thats why tauren is better in most pvp scenarios imo
The 2 second tauren stun isn't as good as you think it is for the same reason DK pet stun is usually not worth using on kill targets. If you're playing a comp around stuns a 2 sec stun is almost never worth the DR. Especially since the tauren stun is an aoe. - 2.6 every season since wod
What do you mean by having trinket and racial for orcs? Hardiness?
Correct! As an Orc you get the benefits of Relentless for stuns while also having access to Gladiator's Medallion.
I need that pic from the thumbnail tho
www.deviantart.com/wlop/art/Warrior-World-of-Warcraft-628917372
I am a little confused on the rotation when you say #4 would be Execute but you can't use that unless they are at or below 20% or unless your lucky and sudden death procs. Another part that is a little confusing is having both Dragon Roar and Bladestorm in the rotation when you can only choose one of the talents to use. The same thing goes with Furious Slash and Sudden Death. Can you please clarify this?
So that's referring to when you 'can' use execute and it's just telling you where any talents that you may spec into fit into the priority list. If you're not using those talents then just ignore them.
Thanks
Ty for mentioning racials :D
How could crit be better than Mastery?
Update from Joefernandes: mastery > crit for fury. Sorry about that!
hey friends, what enchants are the best? de.wowhead.com/fury-warrior-pvp-guide
In this guide, others are recommended
Great movie
Arms and Fury ,Ench ,Elem but no rogue((((
Rogue is on the way!
good video, its just a bit slow.
Gnome for alliance really?
The root break can be insanely valuable against many classes. While it may not have been as desirable in the past, the nerf to humans has made other races catch up in terms of how viable they are.
these guys are no where near the truth
Yea I seen that warrior killing himself with thorns spell reflect that shit forehead
sry but you just provved that you have no know of furry warrior when you said the go to stats
Viable in arena?🤨😏