Theodor Heuss, Graupner 1963, daughter boat pick-up
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Small registration of first rough test of picking up the daughter boat Tedje,
assistance boat to the Theodore Heuss German SAR lifeboat. DGzRS.
The kit is dating from 1963. This model is about that old. Tedje name points to little Theodor...
Ramp not finished yet. Important rollers that lead the boat
straight are still missing... the principle is working nicely though.
In another 'registration I show the dumping of it in the water. Still a bit clumsy and reluctant.
The Tedje has no power yet, fix that later on...
Very small boat and needs modern and light RC-equipment to get it working.
Those are the rewards of progress...
The mechanism runs on a 2S lipo for now. Later it get's it's feed from a UBEC set at 7 volts.
System works in a chain of swithes and can be reversed. Individual stages are not
seperatly operated by the transmitter.
Hi :)
This is by far the best solution I have found on the web! I have something similar for my A. Bermpohl in my mind!
But one thing i didn'tget on your solution: If you open the hatch, will the daughterboat not be "catched" by the hook again and the slipping down will be avoided?
How did you avoid this problem?
I have the following solution in my mind:
1. When the boat is being lifted, the bow (modified with some brackets) remains in the hook in the upper position.
2. To release the daughterboat, I first open the hatch
3. Then (theoretical idea!) , at same time I move the hook down, either the bow of the daughterboat will be lifted with a kind of actor/serco a bit (just to come released from the hook), or the hook will be moved down a bit (same effect, just to get the daughterboat released.
What is you solution?
Hi! The trick belays in te 'Beiboot', it has a tiny hook. So the catching bracket will pick it up. But the Tedje has to be steered towards the bracket. The bracket is permanently connected to the spindle, like the workings of the transport op a lathe (Drehmachine). The bracket also has a V shaped wire soldered to it, so it helps to guide the bow the Tedje a bit.
But is was once chosen to work this way long time ago. So I left it. But today I would choose for a closed loop system with a rope and bracked.
Potential wett leak at the deck area, were the spindle is mounted. There is a smal opening to propel the threaded wire. Driven by a Miliperm + Pile Getriebe. And the super structure has remained the same as on the plans. So it is a model for nice weather. Hope I can poor a thin 2K silicone into a made mold to mimic the original black perforated anti slip mats. To protect splash water intrusion at speedy runs.
Those mats as still seen on the Georg Breusing and the Heuss 2 in München.
Best solution is to work with a 'Segelwinde' and a closed loop rope, on which the pick up bracket is mounted.
Seen this used on the ARF models tuned by 'Ralph Technik'. The site does not exist any more.
Whole rear ARF deck closed and only tiny guides for the rope to run. I was able to save all his photo's. Internet has no memory.
The Badwanne is totally closed with two pieces of clear polystyrene, both sides of the spindle, up to the rudder bulkhead. Rudders operate in the wet. Water can flow away via drain holes. The to sides are panelled up and can be taken out to have acces to the 'rudder department'...
So the rudder department is separated from the rest of the model by this bulkhead, the control rod almost as a RC submarine guided through. Rudders are operated like a car steering box with a central lever on the middel rudder. Never seen, so I just realised my idea, and works great.
Since it is more robust, much less vulnerable to a bump than originally plan-intended by Graupner. And wont lock up, neither has any play. I found a high speed, high strenght HiTec with lowest possible profile so it could fit straight in line with te steering rod. As if it were a Bellamatic Rudermachine... as showed on the plans...
I still have a wreck of the badly build fist series Heuss ARF, made in China. It needs resto. And was planning to build the closed loop system. The later Heuss's of this factory were improved. Very fragile details, and the railings not solidly build.
Very dodgy. The Graupner way of building would have been better.
Work on my Heuss has halted for a while due to intensity of life :-) ASP to be picked up...
@@RCPowerbusByProxy
thank you for you detailed answer!
But however, I like your "mechanical" soltion with the spindle more than this ugly "rope" lift 🙂
@@Kraftei Well, it can be done very realistic , for certain as the thin tread/wire is grey, brown. It runs above an under the center rollers of the keel support.
I advise you to redo the Badwanne to the real construction. Never understood the forming by Grauner... kind of easy build and acces... but not realistic.
Originally the rope was manually attached at the Beiboot. Kind of heroism in rough seas. The boat was winched in.
Here's a nice impression in an old news real...
There are more of them!
www.filmothek.bundesarchiv.de/video/589658?q=seenotkreuzer&xm=AND&xf%5B0%5D=_fulltext&xo%5B0%5D=CONTAINS&xv%5B0%5D=
A folding hook can be made on the Tedje with a micro servo, the hook can then fold down be hooked to the pic-up frame.
The system of Ralf seemed to work perfect.
Are you active currently on any RC forum?
Like RC-Network or RC-Modelbau-Schiffe.de?
Aha! Bereits gefunden! Können dort weiter schreiben?
Und etwas Material schicken.
Hakt sich das Boot automatisch oder manuell in die Aufnahme ein ?
Bijboot hat einer kleines Haken. Der pick-up ist einer messing ring, Ei-Form, und mit Spindel angetrieben. Heckklappe lauft im geschaltene kreislauf mit.
Das bijboot muss Ich neu ballasten, sodass der Buch etwas hoher steck als auf die Zeichnungen. Beiboot solte dabei unter die 160 Gramm beiben. Mit modernes innenleben kann das glücklich etwas einfacher...
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