Thank you for this great report on our research. The coloration technique already used 2500 years ago, i.e. fermentation, leads to deeper penetration of the dyes as detected by spatially resolved x-ray fluorescence. In this study the aluminum concentration was measured. Aluminum is the metal ingredient of alizarin, the red dye which is also known as "turkish red".
С места в карьер . Давайте же уже понежничаем вволю без церемоний и исконно-лишних слов, обрадуем друг друга сахаром, без соли, и распестримся вдруг под сенью облаков. Вы будете дышать, вдыхая мою силу. Я ж пенистой прической вдоволь надышусь, обогреваясь в час пресказочный и милый, о сладость ленинградскую немного ослащусь. Пусть суперлуние пылает крупным светом, а ивы тонкострунные прохладненько звучат, а все колосья, вызревшие превосходным летом, внесут в бесшумный дом приятный аромат. Мне кажется, они помогут нам всецело, а мы, отбросив прошлое, как скопища вериг, прицелившись в кружки невидимых прицелов, отыщем то, что нужно в обоюдный миг. Покой непотрясаемый согреет нас обоих, внося в густую ночь ещё одну любовь, какая вдаль летит, как паракрылый Boeing, что не нарушит тишь и фильмы чьих-то снов. Моя кофейнокудрая, отдавшаяся шансу, пускай же лучезарятся две пары наших глаз, а души пышут яркостью, как кровь от пинты шнапса, и до утра цветёт волнительная власть!
It is obviously persian based on the horse , the lions , the deer and the pattern inside the carpet. I dont know how this show is published. Study more and then talk please.
@@cetcelpen2451 Have you ever heard about trading and export? Just because silk and amber were found in Babylon, Egypt and Rome, it doesn't mean that they were the center of silk production and amber mining. Amber was coming from Poland, Baltic Sea and silk from China.
@@cetcelpen2451 Since nobody in Siberia could see a lion, the only possibility is that the rug was woven in the area where lions live and taken to Siberia for trade.
The Pazyryk rug was found in 1949 in the grave of a Scythian nobleman in the Bolshoy Ulagan dry valley of the Altai Mountains in Kazakhstan. You can clearly see blonde men riding horses. It has nothing to do with Iranians. You can read: "Les Scythes, les ancètres des peuples germaniques et slaves" by Froféric Guillaume Bergmann.
@@c.odubhlaoich2948 some Iranians have Scythian ancestors - doesn’t mean that the term Iranian is accurate for the scythians because genetically speaking they were more related to the Slavic and Germanic people.
Ironic how you say that it has nothing to do with iranians because it's apperantly scythian and the depictions are blonde? For one the geneticaly nearest modern people to the eastern scythians are all central asian turkic groups, none of who i would call blonde. Second just because it was found there doesn't mean it was made by them, quite contrary everything hints to a western asian origin of the carpet
@Murat c „no scientific proof of your words“ You dont know the kurgan hypothesis? Or you belive in the sunspeaking story and white pyramids and continantal mu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Indoaryan goes to asia and rake asian women’s. R1a and r1b are fully in europe. All things goes to one way . And your stark in turkish are in east asia. Later under ashina(iranian,slavic=blue) rulers in gökturk😉
@@sterinumm4765 lol even the knots are enough to understand that it is Turkic. Double Turkic knots against single persian knots! Read about origin and the art of the Scythians before you make such laughable comments, from trustable sources of course, not wannabe IE fake history in Urals and Altays
@Bursa songur Herodot self say they speak an language like iranian! This mann life at this time 300 iranian words in skhytian area Like rivers name like don = donu(water) in ossatian language And the best theres no one word tukish Take thats baby Ashina means blue like later gökturks 💪😉
It angers me how there's always so much arguing about and attempts at suppressing anything that clearly shows W h i t e people. All these modern Persians or Turks etc get all worked up when they aren't even the same people as those there this long ago. Just say it..the ancient Persians were " wh it e people" as were the Scythians. Stop doing everything you can to avoid just acknowledging the truth, people.
@@KomaD109 Genetic research shows that Iran, Turkey, and the Caucasus have the same genetics, which is known as West Asia. The main haplogroup of Iranians is J2 and A1, which is also the main haplogroup of European people, only the percentage is different, use your brain to talk, not your stomach.
@@nafisehebadi4471 I didn't even say anything and you're pissed lol I have far more information about the origin and genetics of Indo-European speakers. You just proved I'm right yourself by saying the main haplogroup of your people. The most common haplogroup among Europeans is R1a/R1b. The main haplogroup of Sakas/Scythians was also R1a/R1b. Iranians are just native people of the Iranian plateau that linguistically became Indo-European by mixing a little with Aryan immigrants coming from Central Asia.
This is a very interesting discovery. And I am also suprised how this carpet survived 2400 years with vibrant colours. Very impressed👏🏻
Thank you for this great report on our research. The coloration technique already used 2500 years ago, i.e. fermentation, leads to deeper penetration of the dyes as detected by spatially resolved x-ray fluorescence. In this study the aluminum concentration was measured. Aluminum is the metal ingredient of alizarin, the red dye which is also known as "turkish red".
Indoaryan iranic
@@sterinumm4765 True but it was Aryans originally and different people of what is known. Different religion also. Prehistory.
@@sterinumm4765 Türk halısı Türk aptal herif.
Absolutely magnificent ❤️
Also in pictures on carpets there are tail knot on horses’s tail. This s also Turkish .
Yeah, but what is the fermentation process?
С места в карьер
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Давайте же уже понежничаем вволю
без церемоний и исконно-лишних слов,
обрадуем друг друга сахаром, без соли,
и распестримся вдруг под сенью облаков.
Вы будете дышать, вдыхая мою силу.
Я ж пенистой прической вдоволь надышусь,
обогреваясь в час пресказочный и милый,
о сладость ленинградскую немного ослащусь.
Пусть суперлуние пылает крупным светом,
а ивы тонкострунные прохладненько звучат,
а все колосья, вызревшие превосходным летом,
внесут в бесшумный дом приятный аромат.
Мне кажется, они помогут нам всецело,
а мы, отбросив прошлое, как скопища вериг,
прицелившись в кружки невидимых прицелов,
отыщем то, что нужно в обоюдный миг.
Покой непотрясаемый согреет нас обоих,
внося в густую ночь ещё одну любовь,
какая вдаль летит, как паракрылый Boeing,
что не нарушит тишь и фильмы чьих-то снов.
Моя кофейнокудрая, отдавшаяся шансу,
пускай же лучезарятся две пары наших глаз,
а души пышут яркостью, как кровь от пинты шнапса,
и до утра цветёт волнительная власть!
Any story told by women should always be verified.
Pazyrik rug has two knots, which Turkish rugs has! Persian rugs has single knots.
So it is not Persian, it is Turkish rug
Are there not tribes in west , se & south Iran who use “ Turkish knot?”
@@Kish34630 yes they are Turkish orginal . in south there are mostly Türkmen Turks. in north there are mostly Azerbayjani Turks.
It is obviously persian based on the horse , the lions , the deer and the pattern inside the carpet. I dont know how this show is published. Study more and then talk please.
Were there no horses, lions, deers on Siberia? Those people were buried with their horses. Have a basic knowledge and then talk please.
@@cetcelpen2451 There are definitely no lions in Siberia.
@@mieszkoherburt354 No myhtical creatures either but those were woven on the rug.
@@cetcelpen2451 Have you ever heard about trading and export? Just because silk and amber were found in Babylon, Egypt and Rome, it doesn't mean that they were the center of silk production and amber mining. Amber was coming from Poland, Baltic Sea and silk from China.
@@cetcelpen2451 Since nobody in Siberia could see a lion, the only possibility is that the rug was woven in the area where lions live and taken to Siberia for trade.
The Pazyryk rug was found in 1949 in the grave of a Scythian nobleman in the Bolshoy Ulagan dry valley of the Altai Mountains in Kazakhstan. You can clearly see blonde men riding horses. It has nothing to do with Iranians. You can read: "Les Scythes, les ancètres des peuples germaniques et slaves" by Froféric Guillaume Bergmann.
They're Iranian relatives. The ancient Persians looked more like these people than modern ones.
@@c.odubhlaoich2948 some Iranians have Scythian ancestors - doesn’t mean that the term Iranian is accurate for the scythians because genetically speaking they were more related to the Slavic and Germanic people.
@@mindblowing3202 No I'm saying the ancient Persians were closer to Scythians (and thus modern Euros) than modern Iranians.
@@c.odubhlaoich2948 maybe but not all, as in the south people are different and more Arabic.
Ironic how you say that it has nothing to do with iranians because it's apperantly scythian and the depictions are blonde? For one the geneticaly nearest modern people to the eastern scythians are all central asian turkic groups, none of who i would call blonde. Second just because it was found there doesn't mean it was made by them, quite contrary everything hints to a western asian origin of the carpet
400 BC, no Turks then. Gökturks began in 600 AD
The most broken tv channel in the world, wrong names shown to people when they talk, wrong dates, wrong regions mentioned.
TRT is a joke
Oldest persian carpet in the world belongs to scyntians🇮🇷🇮🇷
Armenian carpet just like everything eals 🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲 kunem saxit lave 🇹🇷
İt is totally Turkish, without any concern.
Tartışmasız Türk yapımıdır. Persle bir ilgisi olmayan bir kültür ürünü. Türk'süz dünya düşlerine hayır !!!
Nothing turkish
Indogermanisn rulers in asia
Northing else
@@sterinumm4765 no scientific proof of your words... Only political dreams...
@Murat c
„no scientific proof of your words“
You dont know the kurgan hypothesis?
Or you belive in the sunspeaking story and white pyramids and continantal mu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Indoaryan goes to asia and rake asian women’s. R1a and r1b are fully in europe. All things goes to one way . And your stark in turkish are in east asia. Later under ashina(iranian,slavic=blue) rulers in gökturk😉
@@sterinumm4765 lol even the knots are enough to understand that it is Turkic. Double Turkic knots against single persian knots! Read about origin and the art of the Scythians before you make such laughable comments, from trustable sources of course, not wannabe IE fake history in Urals and Altays
@Bursa songur
Herodot self say they speak an language like iranian!
This mann life at this time
300 iranian words in skhytian area
Like rivers name like don = donu(water) in ossatian language
And the best theres no one word tukish
Take thats baby
Ashina means blue like later gökturks 💪😉
Made by Armenians!🇦🇲
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It angers me how there's always so much arguing about and attempts at suppressing anything that clearly shows W h i t e people. All these modern Persians or Turks etc get all worked up when they aren't even the same people as those there this long ago. Just say it..the ancient Persians were " wh it e people" as were the Scythians. Stop doing everything you can to avoid just acknowledging the truth, people.
Yes sakas, they were and are aryan(iranian) people
Бесполезно, людскую породу нам не победить
@@nafisehebadi4471Yes and modern Persians are genetically mainly middle eastern (not Arab).
@@KomaD109 Genetic research shows that Iran, Turkey, and the Caucasus have the same genetics, which is known as West Asia. The main haplogroup of Iranians is J2 and A1, which is also the main haplogroup of European people, only the percentage is different, use your brain to talk, not your stomach.
@@nafisehebadi4471 I didn't even say anything and you're pissed lol
I have far more information about the origin and genetics of Indo-European speakers.
You just proved I'm right yourself by saying the main haplogroup of your people.
The most common haplogroup among Europeans is R1a/R1b. The main haplogroup of Sakas/Scythians was also R1a/R1b.
Iranians are just native people of the Iranian plateau that linguistically became Indo-European by mixing a little with Aryan immigrants coming from Central Asia.