2007-2010 2.4L Jeep Patriot P2004-P2017 fix
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2020
- How to replace an intake manifold runner control valve, and check a few things on a Patriot. Also called an Intake flow control valve. Don't know why they call it a valve, when it is really an actuator, or a motor. This is also the same valve for Dodge Caliber 2007-2012, Avenger 2008-2009, Journey 2009-2010, Compass 2007-2013, Chrysler Sebring 2007-2009. 2011 07 08 09 10 11 12 13
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Great video. After one watch I feel like I can do it before breakfast tomorrow. No guarantee I won't screw it up but I feel less stressed about it.
Hope it works. I ended up replacing the intake. For whatever reason this actuator stuck, and don't know why for sure.
This man knows his stuff. saved me a fortune. Simple fix. Cleared the codes and the engine light stayed off. Power in acceleration no more jerking. Thank you kind sir for posting this fix. Much appreciation and gratitude for your help and video. Keep up the humour. I like. :)
i think i have the same problem but also it showed up as a misfire, would something like this cause a misfire? thanks in advanced
too much air makes it run rich, smelling strong of gas, especially at exhaust cause of unburnt fuel, too little it will be lean. all this has an effect on other. If u run it too lean it can blow engine from unburnt gas washing down pistons n cylinder walls with gas. It is not good to run it too long neither lean or rich.
Yes most times it's a sensor or connection, ground etc. Always start simple. But don't just shotgun parts or load parts cannon and fire. I see this alot and ppl complain about cost of parts but just buy so many they don't need its their own fault. It's not hard to figure it out if u learn how whatever system works. Evap, fuel, etc. Once u understand how things operate, u will have a better idea what's going on. There's been alot of advancement since the 1st engine, but at the end of the day all work same, Suck, Squeeze, bang, blow. They use some type of fuel, mixed with air compressed in a cylinder and exploding from that like a diesel, or by spark plug, then burnt fuel leaves through exhaust. All these systems are just what monitors, changes, manipulate, how it runs and sends that info to computer and when a wrong reading of voltage, pressure, leaks etc it sets off a light in dash. Now if that light flashes that's bad so pull over and don't drive. Better safe than sorry. Just replaced a jeep compass 2.4 engine. It was used and $1200.00. No sensor costs that in that motor. If u have to get a used part. But don't just ignore a flashing CEL. Yes it can set off other codes. The tps, iac, map, maf, O2, air fuel, etc. All talk to 1 another thousands of times a second. A guy brought in 18 gmc with 1 n 3 cylinder misfire. He let it go a week n cost him a 2 grand cat system, plus tow, plus diag to find issue and fix the pin in connector that was loose. Simple issue made worse by not fixing sooner.
A@@kitjasabsgabs1830
Great video & to the point. Good to know how to check the intake flaps, especially when your replacing the throttle body on these Patriots... Thanks for posting....
Solved my P2017 straight away. Thank you! Seems the actuator fried at 170,000km.
Thank you brother this video was a lifesaver especially where you mentioned how to angle when putting the part back again. I was really frustrated and that saved me! Great video and made me laugh too. Cheers.
Thanks man that really helped , great vid easy yo see and hear you , with no stupid music .
This guy is the best thanks for showing this bro you saved me alotta time to take care
Dude you have no idea how much you rock
Incredibly helpful, thank you man
Your opening speedometer comment had me laughing.
Thanks from france ! its the same motor 2,4 vvt for compass 2008
Good job sir
Dorman part? It'll be back next week, you will be replacing it once a week forever.
Thanks for the videos 👍
And the Michael Jackson gloves LOL
We will see. Thanks for watching.
Eres un tonto creyendo que solo porque es más caro es más bueno.
It lasted at least 2 weeks longer than your prediction. Now has a whole new OEM intake. Butterflies were sticking. May have caused part to break.
So did you end up swapping that butterfly valve part out?@@RustBeltAuto
@@krat0us I replaced the whole intake. Didn't want to see it again.
This vehicle loves having emissions related problems. Sensors, runners, more sensors.
And a ground.
If anyone can help w an answer I'd appreciate it very much. Here's my issue:
I replaced the Intake manifold runner control on my 08 Jeep Compass because the check engine light came on. After replacing the part with a new one my car doesn't start. Any thoughts? Going crazy trying to figure what I did wrong!!!
Thanks...
Esta válvula se usa en jeep patriot 2016?
great,, but when have time, could you upload the replace part video, thanks
What I will do for you, is stop making sense.
Thanks sir it worked for god bless you
This one worked for about a month, and then I had to return the part, and replace the intake manifold. Good luck!
Hi,
I have p2004 ctrl stuck for bank 1 - p2017 pos sens/switch circ hi bank 1.
I have changed the actuator and I have also replaced the manifold and still cannot get rid of the same codes. Could it be the switch has no power to it or does it need to be re-programmed by a jeep dealership? Please help its breaking me
don't know about your vehicle, but Dodge Calibers built prior to march 2007 need software update when fixing these issues
is the piece you are turning at 2:40 supposed to be attached or does it come out freely? When I pulled the Intake controller the extra piece came out with it.
Stick it back in the hole.
Can the entire intake manifold be changed instead? I'm having the same exact codes coming up in a 2011. This truck has been an annoyance since I got it. Thanks
this was pretty useful... how did you determine the intake runner control valve was bad to begin with???
I have a dedicated scan tool that can actuate the thing. It was also stuck in the wrong position when I took it apart.
@@RustBeltAuto ah yes, the thought did occur to me later on in the evening.. especially when I realized the code was in the title of the video. thanks for taking the time to reply to my dum-dum question... you're tha man! LOL
Thank you for this explication. I had the same problem and my mecanic had to change the motor 2 times too. seems there is a problem in the production. but i have a question. My mecanic told me that the motor has to be adapted to the ECU with a special computer so that the parameter matches. what do you think about this. here in you tube there are some viedeos about changing the motor but nobody tells about this. Thank you
I ended up putting a mopar intake manifold on this thing. Never came back on me.
Man I just changed the manifold on a 2009 jeep Patriot intake runner value still haven the same problem runs really ruff should I change the throttle body?
It should not run rough, with valve open or closed. Look elsewhere, and re-check coded. That's what I would think.
I had the Open Bank 1 stuck or p2004 code on my 2010 patriot repaired 3 months ago. Mechanics also replaced the entire manifold. Today I am getting the code light again! Is there something else that would cause this code? I refuse to believe that the bank actuator has gone bad in such short time.
There is a ground wire somewhere people are having problems with. A dedicated scan tool should be able to open and close the actuator for diagnosis.
i have same issue, replace new one problem still exist
Mine compass just shuts off with no warning no codes no lights nothing. Oil is perfect. It usually fires right back up then. Any ideas? Its driving me absolutely nuts. It doesnt do it at any particular rpms or speed or time. It happens all the time now
Not possible for me to say. It needs to not run to diagnose.
@@RustBeltAuto thank you for getting back! I found someone who the very same thing happened to no lights no codes or anything. They eventually figured out it was the throttle body. So I got one for 40$ and going to try it to see if it works
Was getting multiple codes,p2008,p0013,p0010. Replaced both camshaft sensors,both vvt's and manifold "valve". Still throwing errors. Is it likely the flaps in manifold are stuck and I replaced all that crap for nothing?
I ended up replacing the manifold on this thing, because the butterflies were sticking, and I think it broke that new actuator. There is also a ground that goes bad on this, that causes the same error codes I mentioned, but that was not the issue on this car truck thing.
@@RustBeltAuto Thanks man. Glad you made the manifold vid 🙂.Guess I'll take zee actuator back off and see if it snaps back,then tackle the manifold next. Love yer vids/style and you sound like Jesse Ventura. Appreciate you. OK bye.
@@mrmawf1564 We are both from Minnesota.
@RustBeltAuto ...........can you do the video fixing the ground....... dealership replace my manifold for free due to dyc codes and my complaints........ yet light is still on for "circuit issue"... manifold runner
Thanks
I'm having issues with several codes related to this thing and I have already replaced the actuator. I followed flowcharts to troubleshoot and everything checks out, which leads me to believe that it is a bad PCM. The engine light sometimes goes out so I want to say It is a wiring fault that is intermittent but the wiring is fine whenever I check it. The only idea I have left is to bypass the harness and wire the valve directly to the PCM but the connector is hard to reach for splicing. Does anyone know where to get the harness connector for this so I can make a separate bypass for it?
I had problems with this car after doing this job. Ended up replacing the intake manifold with a factory mopar mail order part from rock auto, because the butterfly valve was sticking intermittently, and it ruined the new actuator. Havn't heard from them since. The check engine light will go off after x-amount of cycles if the pcm cannot find a problem. Some poster here also mentioned something about a ground issue, that I know nothing about.
@@RustBeltAuto I thought it was the ground also but I checked the circuit and it had no resistance. If I am able, I am going to just bypass the entire harness to see if anything changes. I have also considered pulling the actuator but leaving it plugged into the harness and driving around a bit. I could also just send the whole car off a cliff haha. Problem "solved." Thanks for the reply and great video.
@@nickdibart if you take the thing off, and leave it plugged in, there is a goofy little metal nub inbetween the butterfly, and the actuator that has an o-ring on it to seal it. It will fall off if it is not secured in there somehow. Thanks for watching!
@@RustBeltAuto I ended up bench testing the valve by just connecting the control pin directly to bat +12v and ground straight to the battery and got nothing. It was a new part but a dud apparently. I ordered another, tested it the same way and it was working. I tossed it in today and cleared the codes. So far it's been fine, knock on wood.
@@nickdibart did that solve your problem mate ?
I have changed the manifold and actuator and still getting the light 😭
I was a little confused toward the end... did you reinstall the replacement in the same fashion, to the left? thanks
Actually, I ended up buying an intake manifold. The little slot lines up with the little groove, and then it might break, because it is all just cheesy plastic.
@@RustBeltAuto I took my runner control valve off when I removed my electronic throttle control and I was afraid I put it back on incorrectly... the car started over-heating a few months later so I may of screwed that one up! if you had to guess... would you say the spring loaded mechanism should be installed from left to right or right to left?
Having this issue while on a road trip and not near a big city could I drive a few hundred miles to the next city and be fine?
Probably
probably get bad fuel efficiency i.e. inefficient
Thanks for that. I've got runner controller errors on my 2008 Pat 2.4L 5 spd manual. That controller is 270$?
You can probably mail order a whole manifold for that.
Thanks! Sorry so long responding (one garage wanted to change the gasket on the manifold, and to charge me 30$ per Champion spark plug. Skoffed at the plugs I put in myself. Garage couldn't determine at the very beginning that it was the manifold actuator. Wanted to put in 4 ig coils. Dunno.)@@RustBeltAuto
good morning, man. Hey can you please help me out with a cuestion I bought a 2011 dodge caliber, but it doesn't have the intake magnefull runner control valve. Is this normal ?
Consider yourself lucky.
This P2017 wouldn't cause a no start condition would it?
My sources say no.
How do you clear the check engine light to see if there’s any more codes popping?
Code reader
@@RustBeltAuto ok, thanks. The code reader will clear the check engine light after the part has been replaced?
@@Diachachimba yes
@@RustBeltAuto k, thanks. Subscribed.
@@Diachachimba Hello this is the code I have. Any ideas I can't figure it out: P2004 Intake manifold runner control stuck open bank 1 c P0420 Catalyst system Efficiency below threshold bank 1
What codes were thrown? I wanna know for comparison
The codes in the title?
Does anyone know where the DOWNSTREAM O2 sensor is? I keep getting a P420 code and I already replaced the first O2 sensor but i think I did to replace the downstream before buying a new cat. Thanks!!!!
It is usually always the cat. You can try to cheat by putting a spark plug non fouler on the o2 after the cat. It will slow it down. Sometimes that works. There are other methods you can try too. Most people are told to get a cat.
@@RustBeltAuto wondering how the mechanical piece like the Cat can make a code occur since I would think a electrical component would need to set off a code
@@reviewsbyHP you have 2 sensors in front, and rear of the cat, to monitor the function of the cat. The rear is supposed to switch slower I/O 0v.
I’ve noticed you’ve done a lot of work on the Jeep. Have you done anything with the throttle control valve, if so did you reset it?
When I attempt to reset my throttle control valve on my computer I get the message “unsuccessful attempt make sure your battery is fully charged”. Any help I’d appreciate the customer wants their Jeep back.
I have not.
@@RustBeltAuto well here’s the lowdown. A customer brought me an 08 patriot, I’ve replaced everything intake, throttle body, pcm, battery. Anyway the car ran poorly, I have an Autel computer and attempted to reset the throttle body I received the response that the battery needs a full charge. Anyway I was told it would probably need to go to the dealer with a proprietary computer to have it reset. I’m more than frustrated. Anyway I enjoy your videos.
@@jimjohnson4031 those things have grounding problems. Just though I would throw that out there.
Where do I find the MFV (manifold flow valve)
The dealer. Rockauto. I got a Dorman one, and it went bad.
Not what I was looking for but, I caught the first 30 seconds. I love how you acted completely ignorant of the Speedometer Plate/Display being of the European, or as I say Foreign ( a lot of countries use kmh over mph ((I am American)) ), design.
I proceeeded to consume a few more bytes of select content you provide and I am sure it was a joke. HaHa.
Informational and time saving is included in this video over "professional" instructions. From one over worked ( granted it is partially self inflicted ) Mechanic to another, I will store this video for future endeavors. Thank you good sir.
Interesting comment. Welcome. Hope it does something for something.
@RustBeltAuto hi i have 07 jeep comtrash with a multiple miss code cylinders 1 and 4 ive swapped the plugs the coils and injectors now its misfiring on 3 cylinders instead of 2...any help would be greatly appreciated
What are the torque specs for the bolts?
Can't remember
What size bolt are they
I should have said so in the video.
My air box is screwed on
So i need to replace my new one ?
This thing worked for a week, and I ended up buying an intake manifold with a new actuator. The olastic butterfly thingy was sticking, and broke the new actuator. Something like that.
@@RustBeltAuto 😭 if it ain’t one thing it’s another! This hurt to read sounds expensive
@@thakid829 rock auto sells mopar intakes. There is also a ground wire on these that go bad.
What's the name of the part
It's an intake runner control valve.
Does the car need to be cool to replace this?
Does it burn?
@RustBeltAuto no. Just check engine light on with the code for this part. Just wasn't sure if I needed to change it before driving it.
@RustBeltAuto lights been on a while but it Jerks when excellerating now.
@@everythinginlove866 it might be something else.
Hi .lhave Jeep compass 2018 code. U0418 .can you explain the problem pleas .
It's a can bus code. Cant tell you anymore than that.
hey. did you get vibration from the engine when you have that problem?
No
Still showing code and doing the same stuff
The idle at 2k
Rip
2k cold? Normal.
4cyl
Hey the make you rmp high my go to 2025