There is a big basic difference between Diamox and Ibuprofen. Diamox does NOT work on the symptoms, it actually speeds up the acclimatisation process. Ibuprofen on the other hand improves the blood circulation in the brain (headache caused by HACE/brain swelling), which certainly makes life easier, but that is not acclimatisation.
Great video. Lots of useful info. We're going to EBC in a little over two weeks ( Sept. 23). This would be part of my preparation for my summit bid in Spring of 2021. In other words, I'm doing this trek twice! I'm carrying a little extra weight on this trek. I'm bringing in 5 pounds of dried up beef to give to the dogs for treats. I think the extra weight is worth it.
Thanks, Roy! Glad you liked the video. 5 pounds of beef is a lot of extra weight, but we'll count it as your luxury item. :) I hope you have a great trip, and if you have any packing questions, let me know.
Ama Dablam BC has a lodge at Mingbo pasture. You can stay there for a night replacing first (acclimatisation) night in Dingpoche because they are at the same altitude.
The temperature information would make sense if you let us know when you were hiking. You mention it being 45 degrees, but when is it 45? March? September?
It's always interesting to hear people who prioritize light packs over comfort recommend necessary gear. You gotta hike your own hike, but folks should understand that just because THESE folks didn't "need" a sleeping bag (or a down layer) doesn't mean you'll be comfortable or enjoy yourself without them. Most trekking companies warn clients that temperatures during any time of the year vary, especially over 4000m. Ultralighters are a special breed. Do you want to miss the best sunrise you may ever see because you packed like a gram weenie and you don't have the layers to hike up to the spot to watch it?
i agree that it's a fine line, because comfort and enjoyment is very correlated to the weight of your pack, but you also don't want to be cold. in this specific case, all the tea houses had blankets so we were rarely cold. there aren't many treks where i'd suggest no sleeping bag like we did here.
@@HankLeukart My point was also that just because you guys had weather that didn't require a sleeping bag doesn't mean that people going to EBC a week before or a week after didn't have temperatures 10 degrees lower at Gorak Shep. Gram weenies are so used to sacrificing creeping amounts of comfort that they are no longer typical. They don't know what it's like to have normal standards of comfort. NOBODY should ever take the advice of an ultra-lighter if they're not an ultra-lighter themselves. or do so at your own peril or misery. Also--some people sleep warmer than others.
Great video guys! We are looking forward to our trip next year, thanks for the advise you have given, one question what version of ok mani pad me hum are you using at the end of your video? can’t seem to find it anywhere. Keep Up the great work 👍🏼
About the antihistamines, from a Forbes article dated Sept 13 2023 "Outside the U.S., in many jurisdictions, including Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden, Benadryl is only available with a prescription. This is because as a first-generation antihistamine diphenhydramine crosses the blood-brain barrier, which causes sedation in patients. Moreover, the FDA has issued warnings that taking higher than recommended doses of the antihistamine Benadryl [sometimes called Benadryl Original] can lead to serious heart problems, seizures, coma or even death. The newer generation, less-sedative OTC antihistamines, such as Claritin (loratadine) and Zyrtec (cetirizine) are generally considered safer than first-generation ones."
Thanks for the info. While diphen has been an essential part of all first aid kits for many decades, I have seen the recent articles and studies showing that 1) it's not good for a sleep-aid because the resulting sleep quality is low and it makes you drowsy and confused even after you wake up, 2) Allegra, Claritin, and Zyrtec work faster and longer as antihistamines, and 3) long-term use of Benadryl appears to have a link to dementia, though how it is linked is not exactly clear. Based on this, I'll suggest a different antihistamine in future videos.
@@HankLeukart Granted this video is from about 4 years ago and a lot has changed since then. I'm from Australia and the Benadryl Original with diphenhydramine is now prescription only, but interestingly I've still seen it in imported First Aid kits. A brand called "Adventure Medical Kits" from Littleton, New Hampshire sell a kit called "Ultralight / Watertight 0.7 First Aid Kit" at the Australian store "Paddy Pallin" which lists "Antihistamine (Diphenhydramine 25 mg)". When I read that I was like "whoah - I thought that stuff was banned in Australia!" If I bought that kit I'd replace the diphen with something else - probably Zyrtec (Cetirizine hydrochloride) because that is eliminated in the urine, and seems to have less side effects when compared to Loratadine and Fexofenadine hydrochloride based ones. But at the end of the day people just need to go with what works for them.
Nice video but one thing should be noted Ibuprofen is strictly contraindicated if a person is having shortness of breath ,a bronchospasm or has a history of asthma.It can cause life threatening hypersensitivity reaction in these scenarios.
I've been looking at those too as a super light camp shoe. How do you like them? My only concern about them is that with Crocs or real sport sandals, you can also hike in those in a pinch (if your normal shoes are lost or destroyed), but I doubt the Z-Trail Sandals can be hiked in.
Both fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters in Nepal have major safety problems. Whether one is more dangerous than the other is up for debate, but their safety standards fall far short of those of major US and European air carriers. thediplomat.com/2019/03/high-profile-helicopter-crash-draws-attention-to-nepals-aviation-safety-problems/ thehimalayantimes.com/opinion/helicopter-country-safety-a-major-concern
Your egg sandwich and cheese sandwich ordeal was hilarious. Well done. Very helpful list. NO way I'm packing only ten pounds, but I'll aspire to be like you guys! Heading to Nepal next month!
Hey y'all! Glad you liked the video and happy you found it helpful. If you have any other questions about trip planning, let me know and I'd be happy to answer them!
Thanks, Jopin! We've done the John Muir Trail most recently, and that video should be uploaded sometime in the somewhat near future. What we do next after that hasn't been decided yet! -Hank
Hi, Miranda! Thanks, and glad you enjoyed the video. Some of the advice for women in this video came from my girlfriend, so we should really thank her. Yeah, I'm also working to make sure more women are represented in my hiking videos -- and always trying to get female friends to join these trips! And in the Tour Du Mont Blanc packing list video, I also got my girlfriend (in person) to give a bunch of recommendations to women hikers in terms of clothes and other gear, so hopefully that helps too! -Hank
i never got cold with the provided teahouse blankets and my sleeping bag liner, but i know some people do "run colder" than me (like my girlfriend), so people should definitely consider their past experiences
About money: ATMs are not reliable even in Kathmandu, much less in Namche. Also, actually you get better exchange rates using real cash (remember cash?) from currency exchange kiosks in KTM, Boudanath has best rates. Banks have best rates, but there is bit more bureaucracy Difference can be up to 8%. When changing bigger amounts like over $500 at a time, you can haggle for slightly better rates.
There is a big basic difference between Diamox and Ibuprofen. Diamox does NOT work on the symptoms, it actually speeds up the acclimatisation process. Ibuprofen on the other hand improves the blood circulation in the brain (headache caused by HACE/brain swelling), which certainly makes life easier, but that is not acclimatisation.
Great video. Lots of useful info. We're going to EBC in a little over two weeks ( Sept. 23). This would be part of my preparation for my summit bid in Spring of 2021. In other words, I'm doing this trek twice! I'm carrying a little extra weight on this trek. I'm bringing in 5 pounds of dried up beef to give to the dogs for treats. I think the extra weight is worth it.
Thanks, Roy! Glad you liked the video. 5 pounds of beef is a lot of extra weight, but we'll count it as your luxury item. :) I hope you have a great trip, and if you have any packing questions, let me know.
I could watch you guys all day. I have watched your original trek video a heap of times and it always makes me want to get back out there.
so glad you enjoyed it!
They did the same trek I did. What's your problem with that puss nuts?@@PoX-y4b
best video ever about gear for EBCT
thanks! glad you found it helpful
only one word i can say...BEAUTIFUL.
Thanks, Vinod!
Thank you for informations. Can i go down faster as much as i can. İs it causes any health problem or altitude sicknes?
you can descend as fast as you want with no risk. it's the ascent where you need to be careful and slow.
:)) i was there 1 month ago but thank you anyway. @@HankLeukart
Hi,great informative videos,thank you!
Could I please know the brand name of your brothers sunglasses?
lol they were bought in some random shop on the trail at a very high altitude in nepal, no brand name
Excellent and very informative. Where can I get the backpack/day pack like yours?
You can try the Osprey Exos 38
Ama Dablam BC has a lodge at Mingbo pasture. You can stay there for a night replacing first (acclimatisation) night in Dingpoche because they are at the same altitude.
Thanks a lot! Am doing the base camp trek in April 2020 and your videos are very useful.
Glad you found it useful, Simba!
The temperature information would make sense if you let us know when you were hiking. You mention it being 45 degrees, but when is it 45? March? September?
we did the trip mid November to mid December
It's always interesting to hear people who prioritize light packs over comfort recommend necessary gear. You gotta hike your own hike, but folks should understand that just because THESE folks didn't "need" a sleeping bag (or a down layer) doesn't mean you'll be comfortable or enjoy yourself without them. Most trekking companies warn clients that temperatures during any time of the year vary, especially over 4000m. Ultralighters are a special breed.
Do you want to miss the best sunrise you may ever see because you packed like a gram weenie and you don't have the layers to hike up to the spot to watch it?
i agree that it's a fine line, because comfort and enjoyment is very correlated to the weight of your pack, but you also don't want to be cold. in this specific case, all the tea houses had blankets so we were rarely cold. there aren't many treks where i'd suggest no sleeping bag like we did here.
@@HankLeukart My point was also that just because you guys had weather that didn't require a sleeping bag doesn't mean that people going to EBC a week before or a week after didn't have temperatures 10 degrees lower at Gorak Shep.
Gram weenies are so used to sacrificing creeping amounts of comfort that they are no longer typical. They don't know what it's like to have normal standards of comfort. NOBODY should ever take the advice of an ultra-lighter if they're not an ultra-lighter themselves. or do so at your own peril or misery.
Also--some people sleep warmer than others.
In terms of trekking pants, would I be fine to get a lightweight thin water resistant pair and just get the warmth from the base layers underneath?
I really enjoyed this informative and hilarious video. If the world goes back to normal, i hope to do EBC in Sept 2021 and this was very helpful.
Glad you found it helpful! If you have any questions about planning your trip when the time comes, let me know!
Great video guys! We are looking forward to our trip next year, thanks for the advise you have given, one question what version of ok mani pad me hum are you using at the end of your video? can’t seem to find it anywhere. Keep
Up the great work 👍🏼
About the antihistamines, from a Forbes article dated Sept 13 2023 "Outside the U.S., in many jurisdictions, including Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden, Benadryl is only available with a prescription. This is because as a first-generation antihistamine diphenhydramine crosses the blood-brain barrier, which causes sedation in patients. Moreover, the FDA has issued warnings that taking higher than recommended doses of the antihistamine Benadryl [sometimes called Benadryl Original] can lead to serious heart problems, seizures, coma or even death. The newer generation, less-sedative OTC antihistamines, such as Claritin (loratadine) and Zyrtec (cetirizine) are generally considered safer than first-generation ones."
Thanks for the info. While diphen has been an essential part of all first aid kits for many decades, I have seen the recent articles and studies showing that 1) it's not good for a sleep-aid because the resulting sleep quality is low and it makes you drowsy and confused even after you wake up, 2) Allegra, Claritin, and Zyrtec work faster and longer as antihistamines, and 3) long-term use of Benadryl appears to have a link to dementia, though how it is linked is not exactly clear. Based on this, I'll suggest a different antihistamine in future videos.
@@HankLeukart Granted this video is from about 4 years ago and a lot has changed since then. I'm from Australia and the Benadryl Original with diphenhydramine is now prescription only, but interestingly I've still seen it in imported First Aid kits. A brand called "Adventure Medical Kits" from Littleton, New Hampshire sell a kit called "Ultralight / Watertight 0.7 First Aid Kit" at the Australian store "Paddy Pallin" which lists "Antihistamine (Diphenhydramine 25 mg)". When I read that I was like "whoah - I thought that stuff was banned in Australia!" If I bought that kit I'd replace the diphen with something else - probably Zyrtec (Cetirizine hydrochloride) because that is eliminated in the urine, and seems to have less side effects when compared to Loratadine and Fexofenadine hydrochloride based ones. But at the end of the day people just need to go with what works for them.
Nice video but one thing should be noted Ibuprofen is strictly contraindicated if a person is having shortness of breath ,a bronchospasm or has a history of asthma.It can cause life threatening hypersensitivity reaction in these scenarios.
Thanks for the tip!
I'm bringing my Xero Shoes Z-trail sandals on my next trip for the evenings. Easy to pack and super minimal.
I've been looking at those too as a super light camp shoe. How do you like them? My only concern about them is that with Crocs or real sport sandals, you can also hike in those in a pinch (if your normal shoes are lost or destroyed), but I doubt the Z-Trail Sandals can be hiked in.
Just curious: Why did you say the helicopters are more dangerous? Thanks!
Both fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters in Nepal have major safety problems. Whether one is more dangerous than the other is up for debate, but their safety standards fall far short of those of major US and European air carriers. thediplomat.com/2019/03/high-profile-helicopter-crash-draws-attention-to-nepals-aviation-safety-problems/ thehimalayantimes.com/opinion/helicopter-country-safety-a-major-concern
Your egg sandwich and cheese sandwich ordeal was hilarious. Well done. Very helpful list. NO way I'm packing only ten pounds, but I'll aspire to be like you guys! Heading to Nepal next month!
Hey y'all! Glad you liked the video and happy you found it helpful. If you have any other questions about trip planning, let me know and I'd be happy to answer them!
such an fun and informative video :)
thank you!
I really enjoyed your EBC And all other videos, when are you two planning your next adventure ?
Thanks, Jopin! We've done the John Muir Trail most recently, and that video should be uploaded sometime in the somewhat near future. What we do next after that hasn't been decided yet! -Hank
Which is the best shoes for EBC winter trek ?
warm and sturdy
What about trekking poles, it seems you guys used them, but didnt talk about them?
yeah, we use them and like them. helps to reduce strain on your knees going down and also helps you stay balanced with a pack on your back.
"...total lack of basic needs, notably oxygen... I think it's over there..." just cracked me up...
hahaha i love that part too
Great video. Amusing and informative. Thank you for also acknowledging that women exist as well in the trekking world! :)
Hi, Miranda! Thanks, and glad you enjoyed the video. Some of the advice for women in this video came from my girlfriend, so we should really thank her. Yeah, I'm also working to make sure more women are represented in my hiking videos -- and always trying to get female friends to join these trips! And in the Tour Du Mont Blanc packing list video, I also got my girlfriend (in person) to give a bunch of recommendations to women hikers in terms of clothes and other gear, so hopefully that helps too! -Hank
It's really beautiful country in the world Nepal
yes, we loved it!
You DO need a sleeping bag. Spend some money and buy an ultra-lite,ultra warm bag that is worth its weight at the higher elevations.
i never got cold with the provided teahouse blankets and my sleeping bag liner, but i know some people do "run colder" than me (like my girlfriend), so people should definitely consider their past experiences
Omg I love watching you guys
haha thanks, here's the silliest video we ever made together: ua-cam.com/video/105EEBGUQaY/v-deo.html
@@HankLeukart hahahah you were not exaggerating 🤣🤣🤣
About money: ATMs are not reliable even in Kathmandu, much less in Namche. Also, actually you get better exchange rates using real cash (remember cash?) from currency exchange kiosks in KTM, Boudanath has best rates. Banks have best rates, but there is bit more bureaucracy Difference can be up to 8%. When changing bigger amounts like over $500 at a time, you can haggle for slightly better rates.
song in the background?
The Om Mani Padme Hum is from an album called Tibetan Incantations. The track is here: ua-cam.com/video/YGV6EecLSwg/v-deo.html
You both are hilarious.
haha, thanks! glad you liked the video!
You guys are hilarious... 🤣
thank you!
34:41 load up on a bottle of Johnny Walker - it'll help you acclimatize.
lol
Great info but music in background is super distracting 😢
There are real Snow Leopards on the Gokyo side of Khumbu...
gotta get back there and look for them!
Good video but that music getting annoying
I disagree on one point
My rule of Thumb says: Cotton inners, synthetic outers.
Both of you were out of focus lol.
yeah in some shots there was a focus issue, whoops
Gross. Sleeping in a teahouse blanket? No thanks. The porter can carry my sleeping bag