Thanks man. I make a ton of mistakes, but this one was fun as hell, I am glad I was able to get the fight, glad I was recording. Thank you for the kind words!
Thanks a lot for uploading these videos with explanations that also point out the mistakes you made. This really helps a lot! Very entertaining and great choice of music.
I really don't like those super-perfect videos. You can't learn from those. Could it be I fought you on the KBP7 gate once with you flying a Missile/Armor Scorpion?
Lussy Lou has some pretty much perfect videos that I think I learned quite a bit from, but yeah, it's nice when you get a real behind the scenes look. I don't think I have ever flown an armor scorp, although I fly a lot of different things, so it's possible.
Yeah but this is also a bit of tactic. The shield regens of it's own the fastest if you are around 30% if you maximise the time you are at 30% the less you need to boost. And if you overrep you waste charges even more. And he wants to fight if he would look like it might be close they would lose interest (or drop some caps) and at the and as they noticed they will not kill him they tried it with caps. But they hadn't pointed him.
That was a 2Mil repair job after that fight! Nice battle, really not looking good until you finally popped a logi. The gang was pretty observant and responsive if you ask me. They were quick to pull drones after the 1st SB went off, and they did a great job keeping reps where needed. I'd say you did a great job of bait tanking to keep them around, but I know better. 😉
You remind me of Grunzwurf somehow ^^ Well played, very good timing for the extraction! With some luck but you read it out quite right. There was an Escalation comming up.
awesome vid, great to watch. just a shame when i was in null i ended up in cruiser fleets that got hot dropped or on fleets with the loudest most annoying napolean complex fc's ever. would of been great to be part of fights like this, even if we had lost, looks great fun :)
Lovin the vids. What might be cool is if you could display how many kills you got and what the rough amount killed was versus lost, just so we can see how much you came out on top in the long run.
When you have bastion up it makes you immune to ECM (including warp disruptors), but of course you can't move. When you take bastion down they have to reapply it.
Just did not think of it. This was one of my first Marauder fights, and I was spending all my mental cycles managing tank, because they have so much less buffer than dreads. Target management is a mess, I don't neut logi, I don't use the ec-300s on logi, etc. :) That said it was a fun fight and I learned a bunch, would play it very differently a second time around.
Hahaha, I only thought about neuting the logi and dropping the ECM drones on another logi near the end... I know for sure the sound of my heart beating out of my ears would have overwritten those thoughts if it was me in the fight! Great Fight!
Why did you leave the Thorax on grid? You got rid of the catalyst to clear some DPS off, but that Thorax to me is a gotta-go kinda thing. Just curious. Awesome job.
Super late to this video, but noticing that this was done in 2017 before the Marauder buffs makes this even more impressive. I can't even imagine what this would look like now lol.
I'm sure you can find videos of people flying them, they are (at the risk of stating the obvious) way stronger now, I hardly play and don't really undock the big stuff anymore, but I can make a Golem fit that does more DPS and reps harder then the Nag I used to fly... these 14 dudes would not engage a marauder, you would need a bigger gang, but then everything is the same I think.
Part of it is that I knew the group that I was fighting, knew who their allies were, and what the jump ranges were from their staging systems. Part was that caps always get dropped on marauders. Part was just gut feel.
@@LaskerEmanuelEVE thanks! U fighing crazy good. Can u make video pvp lesson i mean with explanation what to do and what can i do. I just want to learn pvp. CAn u teach me?
No idea how to evaluate what's happening but I suppose everyone involved had fun. And the music is nice, reminded me slightly of original Spyro soundtrack
Because when I had this fight I was a noob :) I got so focused on the tank management (First time doing double ancil) that I was struggling to track what was going on with targets until they got to range.
Just bad decision making. I have a lot more experience in a HAW Dread than a Marauder and I did not expect the logi to be able to hold them. Of course when you have like 800 DPS instead of 3200 DPS it's a very different story. By the time I realized I needed to be on the logi, they had respositioned out of range. In retrospect a combination of neuts and jam drones might have done the trick. As it was my lucky break was when one of them made a piloting error and came to close, and by that time I realized I could not break them through 4x logi reps.
The engagement is pretty simple, my best outcomes are just waiting for a roaming gang of the right size to be reported, and then go out to meet them (At the start of this one you can see me guess where they are going, and then use the JB network to get ahead of them and "get cuaght"), I have lost two Vargurs career-to-date (zkillboard.com/character/91415469/ship/28665/losses/), one before this fight, and then this one in a later fight which you can see in this video: ua-cam.com/video/pGgKyckdJHk/v-deo.html
That gang's deaths could have been completely averted if their logi pilots didn't derp and maintained range. Good on you for taking advantage of their mistakes! Some of these null alliances are utter shitshows lol. The fact that they also commit a drop without someone spamming tackle waiting for that bastion to drop is a total fail on that gang's FC.
Thank's man, my target management was a mess this fight, but I was pretty pleased with the engagement and disengagement, and also the tank management. Glad you enjoyed.
This video is also one of my favorites, although I make many mistakes. I don't have a Widow video in the works, but there are lots of things I hope to try, and maybe I can add that to the list.
As a player who gets next to no good pvp practice (See: being ganked by an alteros in a venture) Watching your videos is really helpful for learning how to pvp things. Would you be willing to explain when/why I want to overload modules, and the effect it has?
Overloading mods give you more of whatever that mod does. Weapons gives more damage, tank mods give more tank, web and point increase the range. Neuts cycle faster.
Very nice and fast reaction to the cyno light up! You're very lucky though that they didn't have you scrambled. I'm wondering what kind of gang fleet goes out for gate camping without any warp disruptors or scramblers lol :P
Thank you! It's a bit of a comedy of errors. I was keeping an eye on who was in scram range, and so I was pretty positive they could not scram me (since they were sitting outside web range). Of course they can use warp disruptions, but that is what the MJD is for. Bastion gives you eWar immunity, and so you can't be pointed while in bastion. I presume when I came out they would put long points on me, and I was eyeing the range to see if anyone was coming close to see if I had to neut off a scram. As it turned out, they did have warp disruptions, but they tried to use them while I was in bastion, the effect did not take, and they did not attempt to renew them when I came out. I did not notice they had not put them back up, so I MJDed anyway even though I could have just warped. Either way it was a fun fight and I was glad to have an opportunity to do it.
Dude got into a fight with his baby dread against 14 other pilots. Dude tanked their damage while popping some of the aggressor's ships. Aggressor got salty, and called in Caps. Dude, knew it was time to leave, and escaped beautifully. We got a beautiful video out of it :)
If you are flying a bigger tankier thing, and fighting a gang of smaller things, the fight is asymmetric in many ways. One of them is that they can hold you on field, but you can't hold them on field, so you try to offer a good fight, and present a good target. If I am in a battleship or a dread and I kill one logi, I will often go back to the DPS and see how the fight goes. If you just run through all their logi, then they will often then disengage, where if you leave some, but maybe not quite enough you can draw the fight out (I don't know what to call it, bait target selection?). In this case they were working towards an escalation so it would not have mattered, but I in the absence of that knowledge, trying to do things to hold them on field feels like the percentage play.
Makes sense, ive notice as long as people have decent numbers and you bait tank, they will stay in hopes of a kill. gotta be on that bait tank game tho. bleed a little structure and give them hope. they will stay. thats why they are there anyway, risk everything for that dread kill.
Yeah, their FC just has to evaluate if it's worth sticking around, so you have to give him something to work with. Easier said then done of course, it's easy to think though thought, but harder to make it all work out.
Thanks man, very glad you enjoyed. Sadly, CVA does not have an SRP for blingy solo v gang flying. I have a fair amount of ISK, and a couple of folks have supported me by donating stuff that they would like to see blown up or ISK (which I never expect, and always appreciate).
Thanks man, I am always pleased as punch when I manage to pull off a good moonwalk. You may also enjoy this one: ua-cam.com/video/ayeShhOTWzA/v-deo.html
I can just imagine the rage about nobody having point in the end :D
Think they weren't expecting him to break siege
lol yeah I'm sure there was some "Strong Language" on comms about that. lol
We cant break you with our 14 man so we will drop cap.
Classic.
this just feels like the answer that's always used in EVE.
Its actually really boring that corps do it, im i hate being in a fleet and then the corps decides to escalate.. ruins the content imo
Exactly what I was coming to comment, how cringe. :D
Beautiful escape !
Thank you sir
Such an incredible fight. Absolutely amazing even a year and a half later.
Thanks man. I make a ton of mistakes, but this one was fun as hell, I am glad I was able to get the fight, glad I was recording. Thank you for the kind words!
This is the best, and most exciting Eve video I've ever watched. Thank you so much.
Thanks man, kind words much appreciated.
Mechwarrior 2 31st century soundtrack NICE! I see your a man of culture as well.
One of the joys of my youth was playing Mechwarrior 2. Very glad you enjoyed.
Nice Tanking Management and Claaassic Escape : )
Thank you very much
Never not moonwalk out with MJD.
Very nicely done.
Thanks a lot for uploading these videos with explanations that also point out the mistakes you made. This really helps a lot! Very entertaining and great choice of music.
Thanks man, very glad you enjoyed the content. Hopefully I can provide more in the same vein in the future!
I really don't like those super-perfect videos. You can't learn from those. Could it be I fought you on the KBP7 gate once with you flying a Missile/Armor Scorpion?
Lussy Lou has some pretty much perfect videos that I think I learned quite a bit from, but yeah, it's nice when you get a real behind the scenes look. I don't think I have ever flown an armor scorp, although I fly a lot of different things, so it's possible.
Ended up an experience/training exercise for those Brave pilots. Nice of you to provide them with the opportunity. Great vid.
Thank you very much, of my videos this one is one of my favorites. I am glad you enjoyed.
What a wonderful fight and a fantastic escape, two thumbs up
Thank you so much! I am very glad you enjoyed.
Surperb! That's some top level fight management. Well played.
yeah man, you did everything right reppin' boosters and such by 10mins you seem to be back on top of it. You're too modest, you're doing quite well.
This never gets old. What a great and educational fight to watch. Thanks!
It’s actually pretty bad performance on his part
Props for using old school Mech Warrior in-game music! Awesome stuff!
+1 for MW2 Soundtrack
This music was so damn scary when I first touched mechwarrior 2 like 20 years ago ! :D
Me too man, me too.
OMG, I recognized it about 5s in...lol
Glad you liked it. Love your book on economics by the way, great read!
Wealth of Nations...yea I get that a lot :) I'm CVA too btw odysseus4hire :)
Turning your shield booster off after every cycle is anxiety inducing to me, seeing how fast it melts
Yeah but this is also a bit of tactic. The shield regens of it's own the fastest if you are around 30% if you maximise the time you are at 30% the less you need to boost. And if you overrep you waste charges even more. And he wants to fight if he would look like it might be close they would lose interest (or drop some caps) and at the and as they noticed they will not kill him they tried it with caps. But they hadn't pointed him.
Mechwarrior 2, that brings meh back
Good song choice
Man this MechWarrior 2 music is bringing back memories of the last universe I was obsessed with! Nice work!
Yeah, I enjoyed the hell out of that game, very fun times.
Браво! Это просто восхитительное PvP! Просто великолепно!
Thank you very much!
Great Video - Love the Vargur!
That was a 2Mil repair job after that fight! Nice battle, really not looking good until you finally popped a logi. The gang was pretty observant and responsive if you ask me. They were quick to pull drones after the 1st SB went off, and they did a great job keeping reps where needed. I'd say you did a great job of bait tanking to keep them around, but I know better. 😉
Excellent choice of sound track !!!
You remind me of Grunzwurf somehow ^^ Well played, very good timing for the extraction! With some luck but you read it out quite right. There was an Escalation comming up.
Thank you so much, Grunz is a talent player/youtuber and I appreciate the comparison.
Awesome module management!! 10/10
lol. no use smart bombs, NOS/NEUT, Burned all almost in first minute of pvp. :D
That was amazing! That escape made me cry :D
Thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed!
He moonwalked out of there...
Yooo, Im late to the show. GOOD FUQQING ACTION!!! Love the the recover and that escape was epic.. Hope to fly like that some day.
That Mech Warrior 2 music though. Brings me back.
That escape though great job !
Thank you!
10/10 nice work man
Thank you for the kind words, really glad you enjoyed.
awesome vid, great to watch. just a shame when i was in null i ended up in cruiser fleets that got hot dropped or on fleets with the loudest most annoying napolean complex fc's ever.
would of been great to be part of fights like this, even if we had lost, looks great fun :)
Great Vid. My Favorite ship in the game.
Lovin the vids. What might be cool is if you could display how many kills you got and what the rough amount killed was versus lost, just so we can see how much you came out on top in the long run.
Thank man, I try to add BRs when I can. Here is the BR for this video: zkillboard.com/related/30003715/201711150300/
I set the qwer for the shortcut of the first line and asdf for the shortcut of the second line equipment.
And shift plus qwer & asdf for overheating.
Music sends shivers down the spine. What a game Mech2 ...
Very well done!!
Thank you!
Just discovered your channel. Excellent Videos
Thank you very much, appreciate the kind words.
God damn it that was some good timing!
Thanks man, I was pretty pleased I saw that one coming
why they dont have ecm & warp ?
When you have bastion up it makes you immune to ECM (including warp disruptors), but of course you can't move. When you take bastion down they have to reapply it.
I live near where you fought, I'm currently in S9X (Linknet space) but i think T-R is either linknet or GF
Holy shit, good fight and that escape is frikkin awesome :D I enjoyed this video a bit too much !! keep it up man :)
Thank you for the kind words man, really glad you enjoyed. I love a good fight with an escape at the end.
i used to be a brave pilot back when i knew nothing of eve online, much happier now im older and im in a very nice small but growing alliance
Brave are awesome dudes, but their are a lot of cool places to go in eve.
Any reason you never bothered to put neuts on their logi?
Just did not think of it. This was one of my first Marauder fights, and I was spending all my mental cycles managing tank, because they have so much less buffer than dreads. Target management is a mess, I don't neut logi, I don't use the ec-300s on logi, etc. :) That said it was a fun fight and I learned a bunch, would play it very differently a second time around.
Lasker Emanuel fair dues. Good video thougj
Hahaha, I only thought about neuting the logi and dropping the ECM drones on another logi near the end... I know for sure the sound of my heart beating out of my ears would have overwritten those thoughts if it was me in the fight! Great Fight!
so if you could shoehorn an extra shield boost, would you drop that stasis webifier?
Well played again 🔥
Thank you!
Oh dude awesome job
Thank you man, very much appreciate the kind words.
What is the opening sequence saying?
What you give on to this empire, I shall give back, on to you.
Why did you leave the Thorax on grid? You got rid of the catalyst to clear some DPS off, but that Thorax to me is a gotta-go kinda thing. Just curious. Awesome job.
Why are you not using shortcuts?
Mechwarrior 2 music, as epic as it gets... shivers
Right?
Great exit, great video 👍👍👍
Thank you very much! I love a moonwalk.
Super late to this video, but noticing that this was done in 2017 before the Marauder buffs makes this even more impressive. I can't even imagine what this would look like now lol.
I'm sure you can find videos of people flying them, they are (at the risk of stating the obvious) way stronger now, I hardly play and don't really undock the big stuff anymore, but I can make a Golem fit that does more DPS and reps harder then the Nag I used to fly... these 14 dudes would not engage a marauder, you would need a bigger gang, but then everything is the same I think.
what the hell...
AWESOME!
지리네..
Thank you!
badass piloting.
Thank you so much!
why u like to overheat shield rep?
It makes it rep for more, and the ancils can take a ton of heat.
Man it was cool. Also i want to say u making good video. Can u explain how did u see 3 carriers that arrived?? I didnt see that.
Part of it is that I knew the group that I was fighting, knew who their allies were, and what the jump ranges were from their staging systems. Part was that caps always get dropped on marauders. Part was just gut feel.
@@LaskerEmanuelEVE thanks! U fighing crazy good. Can u make video pvp lesson i mean with explanation what to do and what can i do. I just want to learn pvp. CAn u teach me?
Fantastic , Bravo Bow
Thank you!
Can it Ammar reider ?
What a gorgeous fight
Thank you, it was one of my best I think.
@@LaskerEmanuelEVE if you still recruit, what's your corp's name
@@hrob6381 Sadly all shut down now man, not really playing these days.
No idea how to evaluate what's happening but I suppose everyone involved had fun. And the music is nice, reminded me slightly of original Spyro soundtrack
I am glad you enjoyed, what makes it hard to evaluate? Are you newer to EVE PvP?
I've never played it and probably never will. With some games I've stumbled upon I just occassionally watch videos/footage about but never try myself.
Ok so im noob but why did you not kill the logi first bc wouldn't you be able to break everything else after that
Because when I had this fight I was a noob :) I got so focused on the tank management (First time doing double ancil) that I was struggling to track what was going on with targets until they got to range.
@@LaskerEmanuelEVE Ahh ok makes sense
How did you manage to fit 2 ASBs? I thought the max was 1.
I believe only the armor ancillary repairer's are limited to one per ship.
Classic mech2 music. Win.
The sounds of my childhood...
Quick question, can your fit tank one carrier? Not 3 obviously but is it possible to tank one without a full set of crystal implants?
Loved the Mechwarrior 2 music here. o7
Thanks man, it was a classic. o7
why do people blur the names out it's all public anyways, names are on kill board
Oh dat sweet, sweet Vintel! :D
It was actually just reported in the Citadel, I don’t really PVE so I never setup Vintel
Oh, how do you make ISK then? Anyway it's still a pretty sweet little software, and it's certainly not just for PVE.
Mix of station trading and plexing.
I used to do station trading, but then I found I could use the same skills to trade crypto.......... ;)
tell me if I am wrong, I feel like you could have used the smartbomb more often
8:42 "noticed the cata"
You didn't notice that they wiped your drone but you were getting pounded by warriors and acolytes? Hit that disco!!
Many things were missed
The Mechwarrior 2 soundtrack brings back memories
Still a fervent believer that keyboard's shortcuts helps a lot with modules management
why never focus the scythes ?
Just bad decision making. I have a lot more experience in a HAW Dread than a Marauder and I did not expect the logi to be able to hold them. Of course when you have like 800 DPS instead of 3200 DPS it's a very different story. By the time I realized I needed to be on the logi, they had respositioned out of range. In retrospect a combination of neuts and jam drones might have done the trick. As it was my lucky break was when one of them made a piloting error and came to close, and by that time I realized I could not break them through 4x logi reps.
After, it's easier to see that on your video than during a fight ,). well done for your escape
Nice tank management, poor target management. All around nice vid though!
You're absolutely right man, plenty of mistakes. I guess I would be a little bored if I did everything perfectly. Glad you enjoyed.
How many of these things do you loose trying to find a fight like that XD or how do you find fleets to engage.
The engagement is pretty simple, my best outcomes are just waiting for a roaming gang of the right size to be reported, and then go out to meet them (At the start of this one you can see me guess where they are going, and then use the JB network to get ahead of them and "get cuaght"), I have lost two Vargurs career-to-date (zkillboard.com/character/91415469/ship/28665/losses/), one before this fight, and then this one in a later fight which you can see in this video: ua-cam.com/video/pGgKyckdJHk/v-deo.html
ZOGGIN IMPRESSIVE
Thank you!
That gang's deaths could have been completely averted if their logi pilots didn't derp and maintained range. Good on you for taking advantage of their mistakes! Some of these null alliances are utter shitshows lol. The fact that they also commit a drop without someone spamming tackle waiting for that bastion to drop is a total fail on that gang's FC.
hint: it's in the name, BRAVE newbies
may i ask how much isk this fit, please ? wonderful video !!
This fit is super cheap (all T2 mods), the hull itself is somewhere between 1b and 2b. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Nice shield management. I had take the blue pill. good job
Thank's man, my target management was a mess this fight, but I was pretty pleased with the engagement and disengagement, and also the tank management. Glad you enjoyed.
Один из лучших твоих боёв после боя на Фениксе) Будут видео pvp на widow например?
This video is also one of my favorites, although I make many mistakes. I don't have a Widow video in the works, but there are lots of things I hope to try, and maybe I can add that to the list.
A real nailbiter! wow
As a player who gets next to no good pvp practice (See: being ganked by an alteros in a venture) Watching your videos is really helpful for learning how to pvp things. Would you be willing to explain when/why I want to overload modules, and the effect it has?
Overloading mods give you more of whatever that mod does. Weapons gives more damage, tank mods give more tank, web and point increase the range. Neuts cycle faster.
Oh my, MW2 soundtrack. I think we'd make good friends based on that alone lol.
My childhood
I just saw it today, I am a new player in the game, but this is awesome.. really wish i can do half of what you did here someday ... 😁😁😁
It's a fun game, I don't play much anymore, but I hope you get to do stuff that is twice as awesome.
Very nice and fast reaction to the cyno light up! You're very lucky though that they didn't have you scrambled. I'm wondering what kind of gang fleet goes out for gate camping without any warp disruptors or scramblers lol :P
Thank you! It's a bit of a comedy of errors. I was keeping an eye on who was in scram range, and so I was pretty positive they could not scram me (since they were sitting outside web range). Of course they can use warp disruptions, but that is what the MJD is for. Bastion gives you eWar immunity, and so you can't be pointed while in bastion. I presume when I came out they would put long points on me, and I was eyeing the range to see if anyone was coming close to see if I had to neut off a scram. As it turned out, they did have warp disruptions, but they tried to use them while I was in bastion, the effect did not take, and they did not attempt to renew them when I came out. I did not notice they had not put them back up, so I MJDed anyway even though I could have just warped. Either way it was a fun fight and I was glad to have an opportunity to do it.
VERY nice!
Can someone explain what happened? Lol pls
Is he just taking dmg?
Dude got into a fight with his baby dread against 14 other pilots.
Dude tanked their damage while popping some of the aggressor's ships.
Aggressor got salty, and called in Caps.
Dude, knew it was time to leave, and escaped beautifully.
We got a beautiful video out of it :)
after you killed one logi, why didnt you just kill ther other one? he cant get reps caz other logi is dead
If you are flying a bigger tankier thing, and fighting a gang of smaller things, the fight is asymmetric in many ways. One of them is that they can hold you on field, but you can't hold them on field, so you try to offer a good fight, and present a good target. If I am in a battleship or a dread and I kill one logi, I will often go back to the DPS and see how the fight goes. If you just run through all their logi, then they will often then disengage, where if you leave some, but maybe not quite enough you can draw the fight out (I don't know what to call it, bait target selection?). In this case they were working towards an escalation so it would not have mattered, but I in the absence of that knowledge, trying to do things to hold them on field feels like the percentage play.
Makes sense, ive notice as long as people have decent numbers and you bait tank, they will stay in hopes of a kill. gotta be on that bait tank game tho. bleed a little structure and give them hope. they will stay. thats why they are there anyway, risk everything for that dread kill.
Yeah, their FC just has to evaluate if it's worth sticking around, so you have to give him something to work with. Easier said then done of course, it's easy to think though thought, but harder to make it all work out.
КРАСАВА!!!!!
Hehe love the ending! :-)
How are you with ISK? you fly expensive stuff. Your alliance supports your solo PvP ISK-wise?
Thanks man, very glad you enjoyed. Sadly, CVA does not have an SRP for blingy solo v gang flying. I have a fair amount of ISK, and a couple of folks have supported me by donating stuff that they would like to see blown up or ISK (which I never expect, and always appreciate).
no pvp centred alliance is mad if you welp shit, only shitheads get mad at you
Yeah, they are definitely not mad, I get a lot of encouragement and support, but CVA does not pay for me to fight gangs with blingy battleships.
nice escape man
That moonwalk outta there though
Thanks man, I am always pleased as punch when I manage to pull off a good moonwalk. You may also enjoy this one: ua-cam.com/video/ayeShhOTWzA/v-deo.html
Nice Mech Warrior music!
THank you!
Why would they risk sinoing in caps?
Did they think your ship had high value fittings? Lol
Impressive show!
That music brings me back
Me too man
you should of put neut pressure on 1 logi and dps on the other
Agree, that would have been best.
Good Job dude! /0
Thank you very much!
Is this Mechwarrior 2 or Ghost bear Legacy?
Should be MW2 (I think, I don't think I ever played Ghost Bear)
well played
(y)
What does PYFA mean?
PYFA is a fitting tool that lets you simulate fits out of game: wiki.eveuniversity.org/PYFA
What is it? pyfa, short for python fitting assistant, allows you to create, experiment with, and save ship fittings without being in game.
Pretty fuckin' awesome !
neut the scythe damn man !!
Or shoot it, you're right, I could not agree more, but ignoring the logi is not a winning strategy.
The scythes can't cap chain right?
but i suspect the use of cap battery...