120 - We have power and better lives because our elders were innovative and powerful - Ocean Vuong
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Ocean Vuong is the author of The New York Times bestselling novel, On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous, out from Penguin Press (2019) and forthcoming in 30 languages. A recipient of a 2019 MacArthur "Genius" Grant, he is also the author of the critically acclaimed poetry collection, Night Sky with Exit Wounds, a New York Times Top 10 Book of 2016, winner of the T.S. Eliot Prize, the Whiting Award, the Thom Gunn Award, and the Forward Prize for Best First Collection. A Ruth Lilly fellow from the Poetry Foundation, his honors include fellowships from the Lannan Foundation, the Civitella Ranieri Foundation, The Elizabeth George Foundation, The Academy of American Poets, and the Pushcart Prize.
Vuong's writings have been featured in The Atlantic, Granta, Harpers, The Nation, New Republic, The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Paris Review, The Village Voice, and American Poetry Review, which awarded him the Stanley Kunitz Prize for Younger Poets. Selected by Foreign Policy magazine as a 2016 100 Leading Global Thinker, Ocean was also named by BuzzFeed Books as one of “32 Essential Asian American Writers” and has been profiled on NPR’s “All Things Considered,” PBS NewsHour, Teen Vogue, Interview, Poets & Writers, and The New Yorker.
Born in Saigon, Vietnam and raised in Hartford, Connecticut in a working class family of nail salon and factory laborers, he was educated at nearby Manchester Community College before transferring to Pace University to study International Marketing. Without completing his first term, he dropped out of Business school and enrolled at Brooklyn College, where he graduated with a BA in Nineteenth Century American Literature. He subsequently received his MFA in Poetry from NYU.
He currently lives in Northampton, Massachusetts where he serves as an Associate Professor in the MFA Program for Poets and Writers at UMass-Amherst.
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Welcome to The Vietnamese Podcast! I'm your host, Kenneth Nguyen. Join me on an exploration of Vietnamese experiences from all over the world.
I served in the U.S. Marines in the 90's and graduated from the University of Southern California in 2000. Today, I work as an LA based producer and entrepreneur and am currently a founding partner at EAST Films.
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Cô xin cảm ơn Kenneth và Ocean đã cho riêng cô và khán thính giả người Việt cũng như người nước ngoài được nghe và học hỏi thêm về những gì người trẻ Việt Nam hài ngoại nghĩ, những thành công lớn và những đóng góp giúp người giúp đời làm đẹp thêm cuộc sống của các em. Cô xin chúc các em nhiều sức khỏe và nghị lực.
Cô rất thích ba má Kenneth nói “Sướng quay hoá diên.” Vì thế những người giàu có, được nuông chiều, không phải trải qua những vất vả của người nghèo. Họ cũng có những khó khăn, khổ đau khác. Sen nào cũng cần bùn mới mọc được. Hiểu được ai cũng có những niềm vui, nỗi đau. Có nên so sánh không? Is Olympic suffering overestimated? Hay tương thân tương ái. Tương trợ lẫn nhau. Tìm hiểu và quí trọng sự khác biệt của nhau để đồng cảm và cùng nhau gầy dựng một thế giới mới bớt khổ đau. Cô có gì sai lầm mong các em thông cảm vì tiếng Việt của cô là trước 75. Không được dùng nhiều thì mai một mất nhiều. 🙏🏻🪷
This is wonderful, The Vietnamese Podcast! The conversation is earnest, raw, and beautifully articulated by both Ocean and Kenneth. This one is definitely standing next to Krista Tippett's and Seth Meyers's in my list of must-listen interview with Ocean Vuong. Bravo and thank you. The ending part brought me to tears.
Thank you for your kind words. Yes indeed, what a beautiful ending. Ocean’s words in Vietnamese are so earnest and sweet.
I don’t speak Vietnamese but I’m very curious about what he said at the end, it seemed quite emotional- can anyone translate? This whole interview and the way he explains things really drew me in, as did On earth we’re briefly gorgeous!
It’s a great interview, you know your guest’s work so well that makes this so much better
Thank you for the kind words!
"Thế vận hội đau khổ " mô tả này là lần đầu và mình thấy rõ ràng nhất việc người việt thế hệ trước luôn truyền đạt tới con cháu mình.Không thể nào quên được câu này!
OV is definitely to this generation what James Baldwin was to mine. The intense use of brilliant language to speak truth to power beautifully. I feel schooled every interview of his I listen to!
Love the description you wrote here, Jonathan. Indeed, intense use of brilliant language!
Thank you for inviting Ocean Vuong. His work paves way for future generations to own and create their own narratives ❤️
I’m grateful and proud to have Ocean on the podcast. Indeed, his voice is needed for future generations.
I so much enjoy the conversation. So beautiful! Thank you anh Kenneth and Ocean!
Thank you for the kind words.
I am laughing also with you guys of “tao đẻ mày mà”, “tao má mày mà”… so much of the bond in mother-child here, unspoken but felt.
And about too many má in household hahaha. Thanks for being you, Ocean, Kenneth.
Thank you for the kind words MinhHa! Ocean is a real funny person!
Ocean is legend
Indeed he is.
Thank you to both of you! This is a powerful conversation.
Wow! it is so emotional and beautiful podcast. At the very beginning when Kenneth Nguyen talked about how Ocean Vương's work can make the voice for the suffer and pain for not only his generation but the before that... It made me tear. Yess, we need voices and make it be heard for Vietnamese people and what they have gone through
Thank you, Tâm Lý Talk!!
I was going to request Ocean Vuong but you got him already. I love his poetry. He encapsulates so much of our diaspora's feelings and experiences. Thank you for talking with him!
Thank you for tuning in to the premiere. Excited to hear your thoughts on this episode.
I've been waiting for this visitor for so long! Thanks, Kenneth!
Tell me about it! I’d been waiting for months for this interview as well.
Đoạn cuối của buổi nói chuyện thật là đẹp!! Thank you Kenneth and Hải!!
Cảm ơn Trang!!
Just saw this and a great interview and conversations. I'm Asian, not Vietnamese, but loved the honest and open views of your culture and anecdotes of challenges as a Vietnamese in America.
I love Ocean Vuong and his words. Periodt
We are our words. Period. 😊
Ok I'm ready to download this as soon as it premieres.
Exciting!!!
What a brilliant interview! I feel so proud being a Vietnamese listening to this conversation. Thank you so much :)
Thank you for the kind words, An!
Ocean Vuong is a genius writer! 👑❤️
Scintillating discussion. My daughter spent ( her junior year) in Hanoi- 1999. I want to visit! I love Vietnamese culture and I love this discussion. Brilliant and beautiful
Thank you for the kind words!!
A vietnamese born in France fell In love with this ep. Thanks a lot
Hi Thao Thao we understand the love. Ocean is a brilliant thinker.
Thank you so much for this interview! Every time I listen to an interview with Ocean, I learn so much.
Hope to have more interviews with Ocean! Thanks for the kind words.
Beautiful!!! All I can say.
I've been binging on Ocean Vuong's interviews, and am glad to find your channel this way. Gladly subscribing!
Welcome to our podcast!
great conversation Ocean and Kenneth!
Thank you for watching this episode!
Thank you so much! It’s a wonderful and so deep interview.
Thank you for the kind words and for tuning in, Lan!
How wonderful
Thank You for sharing 💗
Thank you Yvonne!
Innate Beautiful
Innate Beautifully
Another beautiful interview Anh Kenneth, thank you for putting in the hard work that you do, it’s quality every time. Everything that came out of Ocean’s mouth was poetry to me. His genius and articulation of words never ceased to amaze me. Nicely done once again Anh Kenneth! 💕 - Kimi
Kimi, thank you for the kind words and being present with this us. Ocean’s thoughts are truly inspirational.
Just saw Ocean on Vietcetera Have a Sip podcast. He uses the same viet roots analogy from here:) Both of these conversations were great!
Thank you Ty!!
Loved that Ocean mentioned Black thinkers like James Baldwin. The mother nomenclature topic is interesting-- in my family, we ended up with a word like "me" for mom....neither má nor mẹ. Not really sure where it came from.
I think there might be really something there with Ocean perhaps being a voice that’s close to our generation’s own James Baldwin.
It’d be interesting to hear where or how your family began using “me”. I’ve heard it used many times as well and I’m fascinated by how it’s come into our Vietnamese lexicon. And just to clarify, this pronunciation is phonetically similar to the Vietnamese word for tamarind.
@@TheVietnamesepodcast Yep, like tamarind. Dad's family is from SG. My mom's family is from Huế, but I don't think this came from her side of the family. I think the pronunciation emerged after my parents settled in the United States (early 1980s) and was baked in as they had more kids. Since I grew up only speaking Vietnamese (poorly, lol) with my family and without much exposure to other Vietnamese households, I didn't realize this wasn't a correct way to say "mom" until very recently. ☠️
“Me” is the equivalent French word for mother as in “ mère “ -
@@anh-thunguyen4812 Thank you - I was confusedly reading their discussion, and this helped me sound out the word they were referring (this coupled with the tamarind clue).
THẨM PHÁN TẠI USA PH QUAN TUỆ 80 TUỔI RẤT HAY . Anh
This video shows his anger, his voice also very different than in other talks.
This is so amazing!
Thank you Mai
Sách có dịch ra tiếng Việt không? Nếu có xin cho biết Bác có thể mua ở đâu?. Cảm ơn nhiều.
Can someone translate what he said on the end?
this is a rough and not exact translation:
"Hi everyone, this is Ocean Vuong, or Hai Vuong [his vietnamese name]. I'm so happy and proud to be an author of Vietnamese descent in America, and I'm proud to bring the Vietnamese language into the American literary scene. I've always valued my roots the most, my Vietnamese roots. There's nothing more special than your home, your roots, and you have to take care of it. Just like when we grow trees or plants, when the roots are rotten, they'll die. When we are doing these conversations about Vietnam, we are taking care of our roots, protecting them. Even when a tree is going upward, its roots keep expanding below, so we need to take care of the parts above and the parts below. I'm so proud of these Vietnamese roots, and would not want it any different way and still want to be a Vietnamese even in my next life."
some of the exact language in that beautiful quote are hard to translate but that's his main idea. He truly is so eloquent in both languages.
Thank you for doing this translation. He truly is so eloquent in both languages!!
1990663 thank you so much
@@1990663 Thank you for this great translation!
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Ocean: did you connect with Thich Nhat Hanh?🙏🏼
Hello Kenneth Nguyen and Ocean Vương,
Hai em nói ra những suy tư của mình khi đã được làm Người Mỹ góc Việt. Chị không đồng ý với Ocean là Người Mỹ chưa có hiểu về Ngôn Ngữ và ảnh hưởng của Nó trong Ý Thức và Vô Thức của Bộ Não của Con Người.
Chị xin tặng hai em bài thơ nầy nhé:
Chốn đày đọa chớ nên để hận,
Chốn đày đọa chớ nên để hận,
Wait so MMA is a form of dance. Wow.
What is the media distortion of Asian people at large?
Don't you see anything wrong with how Hollywood portraits Asian men in general?!
Historically, Asians - both men and women - were depicted as either victims (weak) or villains (untrustworthy and evil), only recently have we seen more equal representation notably in film (but not so much in advertising unfortunately).
Communism
colonial entities also shamed their own children !
I eat bahn mi everyday. Theres vietnamese 500 m from my apartment.