If the temple ceremonies are sacred that you cannot discuss them outside the temple then why do they keep changing it to better fit with the cultural narrative? Why do I need to take these Apostles and Prophets seriously when what they say now will be their opinion in 10 years. I grew up in the church and I was shocked when I went through the temple.
I remember that old "less valiant spirits" baloney. They also used to believe that God sent "choice spirits" to live in good families whose members had been "valiant" in the Pre-existence. If you were born to a crappy family (as I was), then you likely were not so good in the Pre-existence. Mormons dropped that kind of thinking when Correlation started.
@@LanceMcMullin so what? Not everything that happens is because God wants it that way. I refuse to believe that God predestined rapist and killers to harm people
I keep it simple: Doctrine is only in the Standard Works, current Temple rituals and the voice of the current prophet. Is not like Baptist and Calvinist were not racists against blacks during history.
What do you do when current prophets directly contradict the officially accepted teachings of previous prophets? And yes, there have been racist baptists and calvinists, but they didn't claim to be receiving direct revelation from God on such matters. Brigham Young and other prophets have stated countless times, while speaking on behalf of God, that dark skinned people are cursed and were less valiant than whites in the preexistence
Yes but Baptists and other Protestants don’t claim Divine foundation for their institutions. They are right on that, of course, though wrong in claiming Christ founded no institution
@@LanceMcMullin that's exactly what I'm saying, you see as long as a revelation is not canonized is not doctrine, so I'm fine with everything that contradicts words of previous prophets that have not been canonized. Is that all you got? Come on anti mormon hit me with something better than those old weak arguments.
For someone who claims to know the bible as well as Dr. White thinks he does and still believe we went to the moon...lol impossible aka impostor ball aka no globe... Everything else he said was spot on until he brought up the moon landing. Firmament. Dome. Biblical cosmology. Biblical creation by the hands of the biblical creator.
@Mimi M I live in truth, I reject lies an delusion. I'll never preach something contrary to scripture, following man made ideas is not part of my plan for this short mortal journey. Maybe thinking critically is something to consider with 2021 coming upon us. Maybe look into biblical cosmology and really search truth. Or don't.
@@Paul-rg4is If you're willing to throw a brother under the bus because he's a baller, then maybe you need to go to church. Everyone is a baller. Humble yourself and condescend like Jesus.
DUDE . . you have a TNG WARP CORE . . you rock! I am not a Calvinist, but I am a Trekkie so we have that And Jesus ;)
If the temple ceremonies are sacred that you cannot discuss them outside the temple then why do they keep changing it to better fit with the cultural narrative? Why do I need to take these Apostles and Prophets seriously when what they say now will be their opinion in 10 years. I grew up in the church and I was shocked when I went through the temple.
It’s been copy written and is now I. The library of Congress
I remember that old "less valiant spirits" baloney. They also used to believe that God sent "choice spirits" to live in good families whose members had been "valiant" in the Pre-existence. If you were born to a crappy family (as I was), then you likely were not so good in the Pre-existence. Mormons dropped that kind of thinking when Correlation started.
Yes sir!!!!
Ahhh I wish Walter Martin was still alive 😔
I love his books!
Yes Sir! It's unfortunate what Hank Hanagraaff has done to CRI! Sad situation!
Hey James, nice colorful shirt for the middle of July. R U an Indian?
Maybe the Mormons will start to see the light.
If by light you mean Calvinism, no thanks! I hate that perverse doctrine of predestination
@@legacy756 Ephesians 1:11
@@LanceMcMullin so what? Not everything that happens is because God wants it that way. I refuse to believe that God predestined rapist and killers to harm people
@@legacy756 So you don't think God predestined the murder of Jesus?
How about the mormon underwear? I think victoria's secret carries it now
I keep it simple: Doctrine is only in the Standard Works, current Temple rituals and the voice of the current prophet. Is not like Baptist and Calvinist were not racists against blacks during history.
What do you do when current prophets directly contradict the officially accepted teachings of previous prophets? And yes, there have been racist baptists and calvinists, but they didn't claim to be receiving direct revelation from God on such matters. Brigham Young and other prophets have stated countless times, while speaking on behalf of God, that dark skinned people are cursed and were less valiant than whites in the preexistence
Yes but Baptists and other Protestants don’t claim Divine foundation for their institutions. They are right on that, of course, though wrong in claiming Christ founded no institution
@@LanceMcMullin current prophet is more important than any other prophet except Joseph Smith.
@@legacy756 Are you saying it's ok for the current prophet to contradict previous prophets?
@@LanceMcMullin that's exactly what I'm saying, you see as long as a revelation is not canonized is not doctrine, so I'm fine with everything that contradicts words of previous prophets that have not been canonized. Is that all you got? Come on anti mormon hit me with something better than those old weak arguments.
You talk too much bro.
For someone who claims to know the bible as well as Dr. White thinks he does and still believe we went to the moon...lol impossible aka impostor ball aka no globe...
Everything else he said was spot on until he brought up the moon landing. Firmament. Dome. Biblical cosmology. Biblical creation by the hands of the biblical creator.
@Mimi M I live in truth, I reject lies an delusion. I'll never preach something contrary to scripture, following man made ideas is not part of my plan for this short mortal journey. Maybe thinking critically is something to consider with 2021 coming upon us. Maybe look into biblical cosmology and really search truth. Or don't.
@@Paul-rg4is If you're willing to throw a brother under the bus because he's a baller, then maybe you need to go to church. Everyone is a baller. Humble yourself and condescend like Jesus.