New FreeCAD Feature! Complex Extrudes from a Single Sketch Like in SolidWorks
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Discover an exciting upcoming feature in FreeCAD v1.00, already available in version 0.22! Learn how to create models from a single master sketch containing multiple profiles using FreeCAD's new "profile from selection" functionality, similar to SolidWorks.
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Wow, this will make FreeCAD so much easier to use!
If it works properly in all scenarios (fortunately, it seems to be pretty ok for now) because it wasn't implemented on purpose - it came with Realthunder's TNP code.
Now all they need to do is modify it to be the same as RealThunder branch where you can just select the actual face instead of the outer wire of the profile.
my guess is they are slowly pulling features from his branch anyway. They will get there.
Wow that branch also supports multiple (separate) solids in one body from single sketch or by pocketing! I had to split my part in multiple ways only because of print size limitation and with regular freecad it's cumbersome to design that upfront with different bodies and all the binders and external geometry. It's equally annoying to do it at the end with split operations complexity so I'll continue trying out this branch build for my next design. Thanks!
Actually, it came with Realthunder's TNP mitigation code and no one realized it's there until now.
There are no faces in a sketch. If you select closed wires and create a SubshapeBinder it creates a face you can select.
@@alexandermckenzie5077 Not yet but in the future, there could be an option to automatically detect closed contours in sketches. This is common in commercial CAD software.
Finally! Freecad is really coming along. Can't wait for version 1!
Huge steps forward :) Onwards and upwards :)
No one added it on purpose but yeah, I can't wait too.
I guess that's the entire problem with FreeCAD. The fact that this was added unintentionally again reflects that the FreeCAD developers have a mindset of their own that doesn't match with what most people find important in a CAD package. If that doesn't change, I doubt FreeCAD will ever become enjoyable for me (and many like me).
@@MisterkeTube Well, most of them don’t have experience with commercial CAD software and got used to FreeCAD’s quirks so much they often don’t want large changes. Fortunately, there are some new devs with more experience with other CAD software (like the guy from the Sketcher and Assembly improvements).
@Gumball_W unfortunately that's not the case for the BIM wb. I bet blender will just surpass freecad in each and every feature in just 3 years. They are huge, there are lots of devs, it is not a centralized mindset and they are listening to users.
cool FreeCAD devs gave it so much boost lately, thank you for reviewing new features
My pleasure. I found out about this one by accident. Had to check back to see if it was a feature or a bug lol.
@@MangoJellySolutions I quite often find features accidentally too lol. They also added variable sets. It's much more convenient than spreadsheets imo.
This change was unintentional but yeah.
This is a game changer!!!
Now i can finally recommend Freecad!!!
It's getting really close to actually being a production ready CAD package. It's so close.
Once the topology fix is widely available and fully vetted it will be ready for broad adoption.
Hi, two other challenges to make freecad a pro tool : the integrated assembly challenge and the render challenge !😅
lol, it is like to say that you don't recommend math because you don't have logarithms.
@@IGBeTix-Electronique I've done both with FC. Wasn't hard. At least not for my purposes. What am I missing?
That's the feature I was waiting for a long time
Freecad is over 20yrs old, yeah I'd say it's 'long awaited'.
@@TheGraemeEvans it's a free and open source project so I'm using it with all the problems it has and I'm always happy when they introduce feature like this that are making life easier and modeling faster. I discovered it 4 years ago and I have to say that the improvement since then is impressive.
It's not a proper implementation yet - it came from external code and no one knew until now.
This is a great addition. Love seeing FreeCAD getting better and better
Looking forward to all this coming together! :)
It came with external code for TNP fix and no one realized until now.
It also works with a sketch and two bodies. Create a new body, right-click on the sketch and move it to the other body. It works. And if you change something in the original sketch, all objects will follow the new geometry.
I missed that one! Thanks, going to have a play with that :)
At 2:07 when you hold down the ctrl key to select the perimeter lines one at a time it makes me wish FreeCAD had a command that would select all curves & lines that touch the selected line. I have used other CAD programs where shift+"~" does this. A real time saving feature if you have a complicated perimeter that needs selecting. Love the MangoJelly videos--very helpful.
FreeCAD needs a lot of improvements when it comes to selection. But this "feature" wasn't planned (it's a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code) so let's wait for the next release cycle.
There is a tool in the Path workbench that selects a loop but in the newer versions it is restricted down to only be active when a CAM project is activated. It does just that, it selects a loop of all connecting edges but you select two edges and it will create a loop selection in that direction. This is calling out for a macro that can be bind on the necessary key combination. Glad your enjoying the videos.
That's how you expact CAD program to work... Really good to see it implimented, and thank you so much for showing it in action.
Finally!! Although in Fusion360 and in SolidEdge (Siemens) you can just select the FACE and extrude it. Without spending time to select edge by edge
It wasn't a planned feature but a side-effect of external code so let's wait until it's properly/fully implemented.
This is going to be a huge time saver, can't wait for the v1 release!
It's getting better and better (and hopefully nearer)
Hopefully. It wasn't implemented on purpose (it's a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code) and thus may not always work as expected.
As always super well explained. I've been using the 0.22 dev version for some time now and it really is much better to work with. Thanks for explaining these features so simple and clear.
Thank you for the kind feedback, I am really impressed with this version, such a step forward :)
Where can I download the 0.22 dev version ?
Def a plus. Just gets better and better over time.
I'm pretty excited to use 1.0.
The future is looking bright :)
Similar to Autodesk Inventor also. Although you dont have to click all the lines there. It automatically recognices the areas when you hover the mouse pointer inside them. But you actually gain more control in complex cases by clicking the lines. Cant do that in Inventor. And it can be cumbersome in more rare cases to get inventor to highlight the area you actually want. If its a very complex sketch.
Having FC recognize the area would be better in the case of a complex wire with lots of tedious segments. This is a good evolution until then.
Big High-Five to the FC developers and to Darren for keeping us in the know.
In fact, it's not a planned feature but rather a side-effect of other changes (TNP mitigation).
It's great that you don't need the Part workbench for this anymore! 👍
I can't tell you how many times I've errantly tried to do this with earlier versions. Thanks!
You're welcome!
And the funniest thing is that it wasn't added on purpose (it's a side-effect of TNP code) and no one realized it's already there.
Nice! The collection of improvements for v1 is really impressive. Thanks for showing this.
Can't wait for this to be out in the wild! The Devs have done an amazing job and such a collaboration to get this moving. Glad you enjoyed :)
This one is just a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code but yeah - there are lots of changes.
currently trying to the practive models from too tall tobi. It's a bit hard to see what other cad can do. especialy the master sketch stuff. But now this will getting better 🙂. thx for keeping us up to date!
Are you going to have a go for the CAD tournaments he does? Such a cool idea and I am really tempted. I think with the new version of freeCAD it will push us up the leader board.
@@MangoJellySolutions I would like to - someday, but definitely needs more practice. I use the fcinfo macro for mass calculation. The practice models are so great for training. I found out that my models (3d printing, fixing stuff, diy...) avoids problematic things I'm not good at. So I can more or less model what I want/need, but I do it in always the same manner.
For example I stuck in the rocket model (fireworks 24-07-10), rocket body no problem, but the fins killed me.
Did you thought of participating?
I haven't done any of the practice models yet but I really want to participate as I never thought speed runs where of benefit until I tired one I found on the web. I realized you can learn quite a lot from it especially when trying different workflows. I really want to participate, just need to find some time. It's a awesome idea he's come up with and really well delivered. Maybe I should document my practice.
Looks like its time to try FreeCAD... thx.
Thanks for your effort for Freecad, keep going
Awesome! The next step would be to optional select a face of the sketch instead of the wires.
Yes, was seeing if that was hidden in there somewhere, that would be the cherry on top :)
Only when this feature is implemented properly since it wasn't planned and for now, it's just a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code.
Such an awesome feature!
Going to save a lot of time :)
That is a great advance and follows a principle of generalising the operation of tools. It would be nice if the hole tool was generalised also to allow any closed shape to create a hole. I think even in 0.22 only circles can be used to create holes by the hole tool. It would be nice if it worked for rectangles, slots and really any closed shape. I know you can create non circular holes using other methods, however, logically having a hole tool that can make a hole with any closed shape makes sense.
It follows the old Unix logic that is evident in Linux that you make commands to do particular jobs like mv and cp (move and copy). The mv command can move files or directories and even rename in the process if you want. You don’t have a file move and a directory move or separate copy commands. In the same way FreeCAD tools should do particular jobs but be able to operate in a general way.
If I am wrong about the limitations of the hole tool please correct me. I have only done a few hours of hand to hand combat with FreeCAD 0.21 and a short test of a 0.22 beta. I came out bloodied and frustrated. I watched a basic tutorial which helped. Certainly 0.22 seems to be an advance however, I think it’s not intuitive in many areas. It needs to be easier to change parameters, the tools, like my hole tool example, should operate in a general way. I will try again with FreeCAD when I next have a project. Thanks for your tutorials.
Well this is real gamechanger. This is reason I was stucked to Fusion 360 all those years. Damn, this is huge - still room for improvement tho: instead of selecting lines, would be great to be able just to select closed part of the sketch, that would be just one click and go and that would put this CAD software truly on par with those big companies. I know it can be programaticaly difficult, but I believe in FreeCAD team there are truly great minds.
I'm hoping that the other features of link stage 3 come across where you can turn a sketch into a set of faces from a option and Extrude the individual faces. This would be the cherry on the top. Giving people the choice of multiple workflows really helps with adoption.
@@MangoJellySolutions also would be cool to be able to extrude disconnected faces to automatically create separated bodies. But i guess that wish is bit too much
This is a much better use of sketch data and means one sketch can be sampled multiple times. Can the selected wires be used in other bodies or with binders?
However on quick reflection it is very easy to do exactly the same exercise performed in you example with the simple use of 2 or 3 binders from the same sketch. Not a big leap forward but it could be easier for inexperienced users.
I've been hoping they would do this. Onshape has this feature . I'm so glad Freecad is going to start doing this!
Always liked this in other CAD programs, I would love this to go the full distance where the inner part of the profile is highlighted rather than selecting each of the edges, but this will more than do for now :) Great feature.
They didn't implement it on purpose. It came along with the TNP mitigation code and they didn't even know until now. So it's not properly implemented and may not always work yet.
Nice! Now all I have to do is remember that it does this, lol!
Thankfully it's not like blender! I haven't got enough room in my head for all those shortcut keys. I need that space to remember passwords and my other half's birthday!
Nice video! I am enjoying using FreeCAD but it seems to have many quirks that we need to embrace to be productive with it. For example: I seem to sometimes have a part that is made from a fusion and the bits are in their original location after moving the fusion, so we need to be hiding and showing things all of the time to make sense of things. And when using Booleans I end up with a big tree of changed parts with the original name being lost and having to come up with a new meaningful name for the top most part. But I realized that I should then switch to using Part Designer instead of booleans with Part workbench etc.
This is great. I used to just make copies of the sketch and toggle parts from reference to geometry, could make a real mess if you changed something in one sketch and forgot the others. Never learned the master sketch usage
Finally! This is one of the things that made me issue a hard pass on FreeCAD in the past. The fanboy "you can't expect to bring your workflow over from other CAD packages" response was nonsense - there's a solid reason that every other parametric CAD package works this way!
Actually, this "feature" wasn't planned. It's just a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code.
This is a nice feature. Great video! (I assume you could still make the centers of the circles as holes while also extruding the rings separately?)
Thank you :) Yes you can still do that and run other operations on top of the same sketch.
Very nice addition!
Not an intentional one though. It's a side-effect of the Realthunder's TNP mitigation code.
This will make life a lot easier.
I've wanted this for ages! FreeCAD is really getting good. Can't wait 'til it's on par with Onshape and Fusion 360! But it'll happen.
It's just a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code and will require more effort to make it work properly.
425 likes and close to two thousand views in four hours! This channel is really catching on.
I nearly fell off my chair a couple of hours a go when I looked !!
I'm seeing some chatter in the discord about bugs with this technique but have not been able to drill down and read the thread. Hope its not bad because this feature looks great. Thanks for the videos enlightening us !
The thing is that it wasn't implemented on purpose, it's just a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code so may not always work properly for now.
I need to upgrade. As always, great vlog, thankyou.
Thank you :)
Amazing!!! Thwnksmfor sharing, will test it in the morning!
Ooo, I like this!
That is really helpful! Awesome!
Very cool, will be a good time saver.
Thank you , deron . The developers are doing an awesome job . I think it won't be long and freecad will match or exceed solidworks . Have a great day my friend .
Terry
The future is looking bright :) They have done an amazing job. Hope your well Terry.
I wouldn't be that optimistic. Apart from the fact that this feature was introduced accidentally (as a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code), FreeCAD is highly limited by its OCC kernel so e.g. fillets, shells and offsets will always work so poorly until the OCC people rewrite large part of their code and pretty much reimplement those features. And this is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
This is really powerful, brilliant thank you!
No problems 👍😊
Very nice improvement!
Actually, it's a side-effect of the TNP code.
Thank you sir . Very useful
Excellent, about time, so much more simple, thanks, when is it coming out?
It wasn't planned, it's a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code. There's no official release date for the upcoming stable version but I guess September/October or even later.
this could be really helpfull
Wow, that's excellent!
It's a very cool feature :)
FINALYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! This was the most annoying thig in FreeCAD, i was not able to extrude/cut from just one sketch, just like in Fusion 360. Altho, selecting edges with mouse + ctrl is a wrong way to do it, nobody new to FreeCAD will know that. It is better just to hover/highlight with a mouse over the area (that is enclosed or closed "looped") which you want to extrude/cut, just like in Fusion 360. But at least it is a start.
I'm hoping that the other features of link stage 3 come across where you can turn a sketch into a set of faces from a option and Extrude the faces, fingers crossed.
Always useful. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Amazing news. Thanks!
Game changer 👍
Unbelievable 😮😮😮
I wonder if it would make more sense for the feature tree to display the pads inside the sketch rather than the other way around?
Thank you very much for taking us through FC ver 22. Your way of presenting is very very easy to understand.
FC is now becoming a powerful tool !!.
When will the version 22 be available for common download ? Thanks in advance.
Awesome!
Oh, nice!
Really nice.
beautiful
How wil ik behave when the sketch changes? How would freecad know what to extrude? for instance the shape of the line was changed? Multiple solids of a single sketch is awesome!
NO WAYYY FINALLYYYYY
In fact, it wasn't added on purpose. It's a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code.
@@Gumball_W even better!!!!!
@@zUltra3D Yeah, I just hope it will be used for further development in the next release cycle (and not just abandoned) because it still needs some work.
I mean, this was always an option using sub-shape binders. I don't see how this is a game changer (per the comments) until they implement the face selector from realthunder's Link Branch.
I really really hope they implement the face selection for the sketches. Fingers crossed.
Brilliant feature!
The extruding part is clear, but I'm curious - assuming I want the "center hole" of each of the "pegs" to be through the "baseplate"? Can I select the inner circle of one (or both) of the "pegs" and pocket that through the "baseplate"? It would seem logical to think that it would work the same, other than the difference of needing to use the pocket tool rather than extrude. (Asking instead of trying because I'm still working back in 0.21.2, and not quite ready to make the jump yet - tried in my version, making pretty much the same, other than dimensions, sketch you demonstrated, selected the outer edge, but when I tried to extrude it, not very surprisingly got the "Result has multiple solids: that is not currently supported." dialog)
Thanks for sharing 👍
Your welcome :)
So much better
Not bad for something that wasn't planned and came as part of the TNP mitigation code. Hopefully, it will be improved in the future.
WOW ! Thanks Devs and teacher ! 💋 Can you? after your extrudes, pick like the two inner circles and punch holes through the body with them ?
this should work with current 0.21 version. just select the inner faces of the tubs and then press hole button ...
Awesome.
Better Onshape 😊
I use designspark mechanical, there's no way I'd bother with that. Maybe there's something I don't get about using curve 🤗
Wow so cool !
fantastic this is great
NOICE!!!
perfect. thx
Thanks
Appreciated, thank you :) :) :)
Awesome thanks!!!
No problems :)
Honestly I'm more excited about this than the TNP.
😊😊😊😊
Actually, it's a side effect of the TNP mitigation code, not a separately planned and coded feature.
As if resolving the TNP wasn't complicated enough, they're trying to create other problems here 😅
Well, we'll see, this feature was much in demand by new users because it was already available in other software packages
Actually, this "feature" is just a side-effect of the TNP mitigation code, it wasn't planned.
Cool, thank's a lot❤
No problems, my pleasure :)
This should be much faster than my current way of creating carbon copies of sketches, i didn't know they had this feature in dev version, thank you for the vid
Neither did I until I accidental did it with a revolve. Then I had to look up to see if it was a feature and not a bug lol.
This is like how Fusion works. I prefer Solidworks.
I see how I could have used it. But I don't like you have to pick every line to include in the action. It would have been much easier if you could classify the sketch lines with custom classes then the default 2 blue and white ones. When you extrude a sketch you can choose which class or classes you want to include. So in your example you would have had 2 or 3 classes depending if you want both at the same height or difference height.
As soon as I saw the manual ctrl-selection of the lines round the edge I thought that would be a pain with complex outlines, as I often have to deal with e.g. after importing a DXF from some other tool.
I'm not sure about your "classes" idea. I think it just needs a tool that lets you select one line and it automatically selects all the connected segments. (although that would have trouble if three lines join at a point)
@@simonstroud2555 I agree for complex shapes it would help to be able to select continues lines. The problem I foresee if you don't set your selection fixed in stone (classes). And you mis click once you can start all over again. And for example with the 2 classes that already exist. you can select a few lines, toggle the class. and select the next few to change. But the biggest benefit in my opinion of using classes, is not losing your selection if you delete the action, but keep the sketch. Which for me happens almost multiple times in every design.
Great videos! Has there been any updates to the Path workbench in the last 6-12 months? CAM generation has been the biggest barrier I run into everytime I want to try to switch from Solidworks to Freecad
Nothing really significant apart from the name change (from Path to CAM), rest machining, new simulator, Vcarve improvements and machinability material properties.
Given up and gone back to using a master sketch as whenever I edited the sketch any pads or pockets broke.
Did anybody else notice the model tree columns? The internal name is now listed. I wonder what other little things are hiding inside the latest dev version.
You know what.... I think I missed that myself ! (runs back to machine)
W freecad
Salut Darren, bien vu FreeCAD 0.22 pour travailler un corps avec une seule esquisse (part design), mais peut-il faire les éclater lors des mises en plan comme le fait SolidWorks ? 🙂
Can you extrude equidistant from a central plane?
Yes, there is an option on the extrude operation called symmetric.
2:10 On that note! Is there a way to select the whole loop?!
That would be such a good addition. In the path workbench you can do it via a tool there that could be integrated on a short cut but now in CAM workbench you can't seem to just use the tool without some kind of setup first. Be great to take that bit of code and pull it out as a macro or feature. Now I am wondering if I can program something....
Where can we get version 0.22? On the Freecad page they have 21.2 as the latest. Thanks!
You can download from the weekly builds. Hopefully this link will stay. Video showing how ua-cam.com/video/g-olVnKbdvU/v-deo.html
Version 0.22 is the Precompiled packages ?
Yes, I have put together a video of how to download. Hopefully the link will stay ua-cam.com/video/g-olVnKbdvU/v-deo.html
So quick question. are all the sketches created in the pads linked? so if i go back and modify lets say 1st pad's sketch then do all the pads update? or do i have to go to each pad's sketch and update them?
I’m following along but at 1:55/6/12 I get this error: “Result has multiple solids that is not currently supported” I’m using version 0.21.2 Any Suggestions?
👏👏👏
We going to v1.00??!? Now we just need that topographical naming thing addressed and we are in business
Topo issue is part of the mitigation in version 1 as well :) They have a few kinks to fix but it's working. They have ?40? when last looked blocking bugs, a number around theme colour clashes but they are working through them. Their target was mid July but think they have a bit more work to do yet. It's a huge step forward, hats off to them :)
@@MangoJellySolutions No way, thanks for letting me know. I've been living on a farm recently and CAD has been out of the question on my beater laptop that I brought with me, I totally missed all the hype! They can take their time as far as I'm concerned, Im not ready yet either!
Does it still allow creating holes same way or is this solely on extrusions?
Apparently, it’s not a planned feature but rather a side effect of the TNP mitigation code. We don’t know where it came from.
Can the original sketch also be used to cut two holes through the end bosses?