Those two are amateurs compared to Nikolayeva. The woman was a true genius, able to play any of the WTC at any time by heart, among other things. I had the great honor of meeting her, and quite a few lucky ones got to study with her.
I like everything about this recording - the tempos, the articulations, the sensitivity, the towering musicianship, which has always been Nikolaeva's trademark. She is SO convincing that after listening to her, it is hard to imagine and accept other interpretations. Deep, deep understanding and devotion to the composer. What an artist! I remember discovering her many, many years ago and gushing like a fanboy to my teacher. She just tilted her head, smiled, and listened to me for 5 minutes explaining why I love Nikolaeva and said:' But, of course..."
I discovered Tatiana Nykolyeva, by accident, in a music store in Moscow (1980). The only word I could make out on the album cover, in Russian, was 'Bach'. Back in Canada I enjoyed many hours of The Goldberg Variations and forty-two years later, still believe her to be the best interpreter of Bach (with Simone Dinerstein coming in close behind).
@@butterflybeatles Simone Dinnerstein??? You have a wicked sense of humor. Saying she is a close second is like saying Baltimore comes in close behind Paris and Florence in architectural beauty.
Tatiana Nikolayeva, is brilliant, warm, softly sweet, but strong, she always manages to bring out some mysterious poignant quality, in the music (if it is there), that I never would have noticed, if I hadn't heard her play the piece. Certainly there are many great interpreters of Bach,... and each has their wonderful qualities, but no one is quite like Tatiana !
I think her tone is beautiful and the Capriccio is possibly the best interpretation that I have heard so far (and believe me, I have listened to a LOT of versions in preparation for my exam). She goes beyond the current trend of playing Bach as fast as possible and brings out each part perfectly. Her playing has a lovely gentle touch and a playful sound. To me it sounds like she understands what she is playing perfectly and has thought about the importance of every note.
Sei dolce, Maestra Tatiana, quando devi esserlo....e forte altrimenti quando necessita. Una grande stupenda interpretazione. Al top direi. Marco Rotondi
Tatiana is very much Russian. Perhaps this is why her Bach is warmer, more sentimental, notwithstanding her technical perfection. It must be her Russian soul showing.
Very beautiful version. Rivalizes with Gould's version, although Gould plays faster. Mrs Nikolayeva plays softly and enhances the difference between the voices very clearly. In the Sinfonia, her left hand is extremely precise and clear. Very good impression of this masterpiece.
If I ever want to hear how a Bach piece would be played well before approaching it on the piano I will first turn to a Tatiana Nikolayeva recording for inspiration.
For me, Argerich sometimes carried away by her own brilliance and sometimes plays too fast and too loud with her steel fingers. I like Nikolayevich's interpretation because the music always comes first. Her tempos - like in the first part of the prelude - are convincing.
I agree about Argerich - and with Bach I often go to the harpsichord to get the right feeling - Robert Hill, Scott Ross and others. But I find Tatiana Nikolayeva fantastic too!
one should hear Wanda Landowska in this , her favorite Partita, one which she played at her first concerts on her Pleyel clvecin more than a hundred years ago and recorded for RCA in her later years. The phrasing, the character of the dances and compositional issues undersrtood on a very higher level. She was a a composer which gave her another dimension in understanding.
the recording itself is very good. Stereo image, rounded bass, not muccing the tones, no unnessesary ambience. What we hear is Nikolayeva, rid of any recording engineering mistakes and quirks-and I find that beatiful. I cannot fult her for anything, because there is anything wrong. Much higher quality stuff than Gould,if you ask me.
Glenn Gould made his records of Bach's Partitas in 1956, and Nikolaeva did the same only in 1980. She was unknown in the West before the 1980's, so Glenn surely did not hear Nikolaeva, but Nikolaeva did hear him in 1957 as he visited the USSR. So, Glenn Gould was the first to interpret Bach the way he did. He was always absolutely original in his musical ideas and never copied anybody.
Sounds a little tinny to me but I'm listening on computer speakers. They did make some fine recordings in the 80s as well as in the 50s and even earlier. I agree with you about the ambience, and you might be right about the recording generally, with the proviso that one listens to it on good speakers.
A very fine musician and plays Bach respectfully. I definitely appreciate her left hand, which is sorely underwhelming in most pianists I hear trying to play Bach. I disagree with the tempo she has chosen for several of the movement, though I can see the appeal to some. It tended to drag too often and it was difficult for me to sit through everything without feeling ansy.
Wouldn't some of that be due to the recording technology of the time? This is not a contemporary recording. I wouldn't fault her for not interpreting Bach as we do today.
Since I heard Martha Argerich play this, I'm getting somewhat bored of listening to any other rendition. Still I must say that this is perhaps a "strictly" personal judgment. I would never say that this one is inferior to Argerich's rendition. Every artist has their own style or understanding of the same piece of music and this rendition surely is not a bad one.
+Whizzbizz Argerich plays Bach the way Argerich wants Bach played. And it's brilliant because she is a brilliant pianist. But this sort of elegant, dispassionate, intellectual Bach that Nikolayeva plays is the Bach we typically know. I find that I can enjoy them both in different ways. But Argerich's passion is close to my own temperament.
computer speakers really kill critical listening. One does not need expensive speakers, or of impressive quality, but it's critical to take care to set up the speakers and the space itself. With proper speaker placement the sound improvement, mainly in the stereo image, is more than you would expect. Google speaker placement and experiment with a pair yourself-your favourate recordings will have some new "air", some newfound "thickness" to appreciate.
Может и хорошо исполнено... Если б не было Гленна! Почему НЕ ВОЛНУЕТ так, как исполнение Гленна Гулда?... Почему на фоне его игры любое исполнение звучит обыденно ? КТО проник в мир Баха так, как это удалось Гленну ?..
show 'us'?!! your family? not better , different: perhaps listen to my Partita 6 and 2 ..on 'our' You Tube/ nothing to 'show' only to hear and perhaps enjoy: Bach has had many diverse interpreters......too many "Popes'....
They can't seem to understand the 1700's were a slower time. Bach wrote most of his music as a clock ticking, or a heart beating, or as foot steps walking, or as someone breathing. All of those much slower than the sounds of today.
Tatiana’s Bach is dramatic, somber, bombastic. It stands out from the mainstream takes Gould, Schiff, etc. Very memorable.
Those two are amateurs compared to Nikolayeva. The woman was a true genius, able to play any of the WTC at any time by heart, among other things. I had the great honor of meeting her, and quite a few lucky ones got to study with her.
I like everything about this recording - the tempos, the articulations, the sensitivity, the towering musicianship, which has always been Nikolaeva's trademark. She is SO convincing that after listening to her, it is hard to imagine and accept other interpretations. Deep, deep understanding and devotion to the composer. What an artist!
I remember discovering her many, many years ago and gushing like a fanboy to my teacher. She just tilted her head, smiled, and listened to me for 5 minutes explaining why I love Nikolaeva and said:' But, of course..."
I discovered Tatiana Nykolyeva, by accident, in a music store in Moscow (1980). The only word I could make out on the album cover, in Russian, was 'Bach'. Back in Canada I enjoyed many hours of The Goldberg Variations and forty-two years later, still believe her to be the best interpreter of Bach (with Simone Dinerstein coming in close behind).
❤❤
@@butterflybeatlesAmong other things I love her dignity and great culture I can feel
@@butterflybeatles Simone Dinnerstein??? You have a wicked sense of humor. Saying she is a close second is like saying Baltimore comes in close behind Paris and Florence in architectural beauty.
1- Sinfonia, 00:00 2- Allemande, 04:50 3- Courante, 09:50 4- Sarabande, 12:20 5- Rondeaux, 17:37 6- Capriccio, 19:13
John Underwood nh
To give a live stream of Bach's counterpoint with such honest clarity, such laying aside of her own ego, is a profound gift from Tatiana for us all.
Wonderful in EVERY Aspect!
Briljant! Genius! A lovely feminine way of playing the greatest master of all times!
Tatiana Nikolayeva, is brilliant, warm, softly sweet, but strong, she always manages to bring out some mysterious poignant quality, in the music (if it is there), that I never would have noticed, if I hadn't heard her play the piece. Certainly there are many great interpreters of Bach,... and each has their wonderful qualities, but no one is quite like Tatiana !
nicely said ("mysterious poignant quality")
I think her tone is beautiful and the Capriccio is possibly the best interpretation that I have heard so far (and believe me, I have listened to a LOT of versions in preparation for my exam). She goes beyond the current trend of playing Bach as fast as possible and brings out each part perfectly. Her playing has a lovely gentle touch and a playful sound. To me it sounds like she understands what she is playing perfectly and has thought about the importance of every note.
BFTP/ Before Tiffany Poon! 😁
I agree. I for instance hate the speed at which Martha Argerich plays the Capriccio. Simply rushing it. Awful.
The best interpretation I’ve heard so far magnificent.
Sei dolce, Maestra Tatiana, quando devi esserlo....e forte altrimenti quando necessita.
Una grande stupenda interpretazione.
Al top direi.
Marco Rotondi
Tatiana is very much Russian. Perhaps this is why her Bach is warmer, more sentimental, notwithstanding her technical perfection. It must be her Russian soul showing.
Я всегда рада встрече
с Татьяной Петровной.
И,от музыки исполняемой
ею и от неё самой исходит свет и тепло.
Спасибо,Вам!
Very beautiful version. Rivalizes with Gould's version, although Gould plays faster. Mrs Nikolayeva plays softly and enhances the difference between the voices very clearly. In the Sinfonia, her left hand is extremely precise and clear. Very good impression of this masterpiece.
If I ever want to hear how a Bach piece would be played well before approaching it on the piano I will first turn to a Tatiana Nikolayeva recording for inspiration.
This is still the best interpretation i think!
Cette interprétation touche la perfection.
Not a simple pianista but a great musician
Η μόνη εκτέλεση που συγκινεί βαθειά .Bach ο ρομαντικότερος ολων
From Russia with Love ❤
Красива во всём! В Бахе божественна.
There is none finer than this...Thank You!...
This is perfection.
perfecta interpretación!!!
this is RUSSIAN piano school. Best in the world!
I QUITE AGREE WITH YOU !!!!
Never the school or technique ..it’s the musician , so few..some play with virtuosismo and few do music and transmit …
Sometimes, but now is just Tatiana Nicolayeva.
absolute stunning. russian piano school is indeed impressive
For me, Argerich sometimes carried away by her own brilliance and sometimes plays too fast and too loud with her steel fingers. I like Nikolayevich's interpretation because the music always comes first. Her tempos - like in the first part of the prelude - are convincing.
I agree about Argerich - and with Bach I often go to the harpsichord to get the right feeling - Robert Hill, Scott Ross and others. But I find Tatiana Nikolayeva fantastic too!
Ist das eine fantastische Interpretation, sehr beeindruckend!
A great pianist
Bravo
one should hear Wanda Landowska in this , her favorite Partita, one which she played at her first concerts on her Pleyel clvecin more than a hundred years ago and recorded for RCA in her later years.
The phrasing, the character of the dances and compositional issues undersrtood on a very higher level. She was a a composer which gave her another dimension in understanding.
THIS IS BETTER THAN SCHIFF!!!!!!!!
the recording itself is very good. Stereo image, rounded bass, not muccing the tones, no unnessesary ambience. What we hear is Nikolayeva, rid of any recording engineering mistakes and quirks-and I find that beatiful. I cannot fult her for anything, because there is anything wrong. Much higher quality stuff than Gould,if you ask me.
wonderful
Rondeaux e capriccio best ever interpretation
perfect and correct interpretation
wonderfull~
great stuff
Almost perfect !
Великолепно
Наконец --то я нашла настоящего исполнителя Партиты №2 , c - moll Баха.
Now I realize Glen Gould was not the first one to interpret Bch the way he did.
Glenn Gould made his records of Bach's Partitas in 1956, and Nikolaeva did the same only in 1980. She was unknown in the West before the 1980's, so Glenn surely did not hear Nikolaeva, but Nikolaeva did hear him in 1957 as he visited the USSR. So, Glenn Gould was the first to interpret Bach the way he did. He was always absolutely original in his musical ideas and never copied anybody.
@@alexanderalenitsyn9053 , да, именно так !
@@elenakun9318, у неё есть записи 50-х годов
The best
SHE beats all!
Better than Gould's version
I agree with psdesousa! I am impressed with Rondeaux and Capriccio. Best of the version I ever heard in the past 4 decades.
this version is almost as good as Goulds one!!! cannot get enough of listening..
I despised Gould from the beginning. I worshipped Nykolyeva from the beginning.
Sounds a little tinny to me but I'm listening on computer speakers. They did make some fine recordings in the 80s as well as in the 50s and even earlier. I agree with you about the ambience, and you might be right about the recording generally, with the proviso that one listens to it on good speakers.
If only everybody played without ego
ASSAI MIGLIORE...DEL CANADESE. FANTASTICA...
Hi. Could I have information on when this was recorded? Many thanks
A very fine musician and plays Bach respectfully. I definitely appreciate her left hand, which is sorely underwhelming in most pianists I hear trying to play Bach. I disagree with the tempo she has chosen for several of the movement, though I can see the appeal to some. It tended to drag too often and it was difficult for me to sit through everything without feeling ansy.
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Bello sonido y equilibrados matices, pero le falta un poquito de la chispa de, por ejemplo, Argerich.
Wouldn't some of that be due to the recording technology of the time? This is not a contemporary recording. I wouldn't fault her for not interpreting Bach as we do today.
Brutal !
Bach non è Kandinsky come Fischer von Erlach non è Balakierev .........
🙏💓🙏
que lento el capriccio...Arrau tbn...grandes ambos
Since I heard Martha Argerich play this, I'm getting somewhat bored of listening to any other rendition. Still I must say that this is perhaps a "strictly" personal judgment.
I would never say that this one is inferior to Argerich's rendition. Every artist has their own style or understanding of the same piece of music and this rendition surely is not a bad one.
+Whizzbizz its a bautifull interpretation
+Whizzbizz Argerich plays Bach the way Argerich wants Bach played. And it's brilliant because she is a brilliant pianist. But this sort of elegant, dispassionate, intellectual Bach that Nikolayeva plays is the Bach we typically know. I find that I can enjoy them both in different ways. But Argerich's passion is close to my own temperament.
perhaps you might enjoy my entry of this and the 5th and 6th Partitas on
Christopher Czaja Sager....You Tube....
Tiffany Poon!😁
7:45
'rivalizes'? Don't accuse this poor lady of rivalizing!
0:00 --> 23:29 OMG
computer speakers really kill critical listening. One does not need expensive speakers, or of impressive quality, but it's critical to take care to set up the speakers and the space itself. With proper speaker placement the sound improvement, mainly in the stereo image, is more than you would expect. Google speaker placement and experiment with a pair yourself-your favourate recordings will have some new "air", some newfound "thickness" to appreciate.
The persistent rubbish ads in between spoil everything…..
Может и хорошо исполнено...
Если б не было Гленна!
Почему НЕ ВОЛНУЕТ так, как исполнение Гленна Гулда?...
Почему на фоне его игры любое исполнение звучит обыденно ?
КТО проник в мир Баха так, как это удалось Гленну ?..
Gould, Gould, Gould, and Gould again!
giorgos malefas
yes!
Not keen on his whining and self love. Nikolaeva is much better.
show 'us'?!! your family?
not better , different: perhaps listen to my Partita 6 and 2 ..on 'our' You Tube/
nothing to 'show' only to hear and perhaps enjoy: Bach has had many diverse interpreters......too many "Popes'....
sounds like an anvil! and no understanding of the rhythmic structure: note-to-note....and what forced sonority.horrid
Nice tempo. I dunno why some pianists play this as fast as hell
They can't seem to understand the 1700's were a slower time. Bach wrote most of his music as a clock ticking, or a heart beating, or as foot steps walking, or as someone breathing. All of those much slower than the sounds of today.
Sometimes musicians hide an inner emptiness behind a fast tempo