Shinhan 2010 Winners League Jaedong vs Stork 2010-02-20 @
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Jaedong (Zerg)
- Name: 이제동 (Lee Jae Dong)
- Team: Hwaseung OZ
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Stork (Protoss)
- Name: 송병구 (Song Byung Goo)
- Team: Samsung KHAN
League: 2010 Shinhan Bank Winners League
Date: 2010-02-20
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열정적으로 집중하는 이제동, 언제나 침착한 송병구
이런게 진짜 최고의 프로게이머 다운듯
경기 레벨이 너무 높아서 우열을 가릴 수가 없다. 택뱅리쌍은 대한민국 e sports의 영웅들임
말이좋아서 택백리쌍이지 실제론 리쌍둘이서 다해쳐먹었지
코인호랑 코택용은 이제 떠남
@@젠틀허리케인그래도 코택은 MSL 3회연속 결승진출인데 ㅋㅋ
sc1 is so brutal compared to sc2 xD. The animations and sounds are waaaaay more agressive and brutal. I love it!
와.. 송병구 선수 팬인데 이제동 선수 아쉬워하는 마음이 가슴에 꽂힌다 그냥
자존심 강한 두 천재들의 대결....혈투 그 자체
프로토스와 저그 최후의 전쟁을 보는 느낌
이제동도 진짜 잘한거다 저건
역사에 남을만한 명경기다
This match is so dope that when I wanted to rewatch it but didn't remember the name, I searched for Jaedong Sweat hoping it to pop up. So glad it did.
36:40 that sweat drip.. jaedong is the man
Real Man
@Strelok Audio Design i thought it is tears m.m
@Strelok Audio Design i heard that there was no air conditioner at that time
One of the best televised games of Brood War EVER.. that was absolutely amazing.. I watched it live, too.. ahh, good old times.
라이브로 봤을때 지릴뻔.. 땀흘리고 나오는 이제동 졌어도 멋있다고 느낀
진짜 뱅리건으로 살면서 가장 재밌었던 경기였음...
This one was so epic. I feel stork just defended too well, never really attacked.
Amauta good use of the storms and Archons won him the game
진짜 저프전 역대급이었다. 김택용의 저그전과는 또다른 묵직한 뱅의 저그전이네..
one of my all time favorite games.
can't believe this game was 11 and half years ago.
same now ..14yrs ago
thanks for bringing me back 😄@@Idiopathic_Scar
38:34 이제동이 팬이 많을수밖에 없는이유 정말 처절하게 싸우면서 독기있는 눈빛 근성 캬..
such an epic game from both players! really admire jaedongs commitment
Its ok Jaedong
I still love you more than anything
2021년에 봐도 잼있넹...ㅎㅎ 둘다 짱 잘한다
아... 이제동 끝나도 표정이 참 .....얼마나 처철한승부를 했으면....
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST GAME I'VE EVER SEEN !!!
Both played just incredibly!!
this game is so epic!
THE MOST BRUTAL, SCRAPPIEST STARCRAFT GAME.
EVERRRRR !!!!!!!!!!
played by Stork unbelievable gg, okay so I’ve got to be honest I’ve been watching old Starcraft games for the past year now & I haven’t given much credit or attention to stork, I’ve watched him play a couple of games here & there, especially with Bisu, but now I know why, & understand why, people have had so much respect for him these days, that was amazing.
Simply amazing this match, I think that Stork was dead, but he held really really well.
This was one of the best games I've ever seen.
best game of 2010 so far, amazing play by both players
송병구 김준영도 이기고 장기전에 엄청나게 강하네 진짜 택뱅리쌍답다
폭군을 땀 흘리게 하다니
The game is the most exciting that I've ever seen! (for Zerg VS P)
Good game!!
Two are excellent players!!
Poor Jaedong, he was sweatin like crazy
와 이 경기 클래스 지리네 ㄷㄷ
아진짜 너무재밌다ㅋㅋㅋㅋ제동이너무짠하고 뱅구 이기고 환하게웃는거 너무귀엽자너ㅋㅋ앜
소년가장 이제동....
스타리그 다시 하면 좋겠다 ㅜㅠ
This will never happen in SC2 game, a player sweating like JaeDong did in this match, after a 40 min game, with probably 400apm's constantly. This is what made this game so tough to play. Now this sad version of SC2 makes the game really easier, end even koreans with 250 apm's get to be real good it. When youll see a player sweating his ass off in SC2, then you could say that SC2 is as good as SC1!
GG JaeDong !
SC2 sucks
O my freaking god! what a game!
To titans clashing together in what must be one of the closest games ever. So happy for the winner. He truly is a hero.
경기수준이 다르다 그냥
멋있다 둘 다
Perfectly executed game by Stork. "stork just defended too well, never really attacked" He played from the very start of the game around this going 30+ minutes with a 50/50 map split. To win a long game on this map, Zerg probably needs to get 6 bases to Protosses 5, and it's a relatively easy map to split in half, even in PvZ. Even though Jaedong kills the Nexus at 12, Stork keeps long distance mining and that continues to be enough to outlast Jaedong.
Few could dare plan around lasting 30+ minutes against Jaedong for a delay victory, but Stork won that 80+ minute game against GGPlay on Andromeda so this was almost fast food for him.
I saw this live 3 years ago. I remember this vid, back when it had almost no views and everyone was thankful to nevake for uploading so much great stuff.
This match is one of the best and most memorable to me. I feel kinda sad seeing how much less SC2 is compared to Brood War. SC1 is far better entertainment in every way possible - the scale of the battles, all the small gimmick strategies, the animations - everything. And the Koreans had it nailed down perfectly too. I miss BW as it was.
Absolutely epic. Winner completely deserved it.
Epic match! Super Intense!
One of the best games of BW I have ever seen!
Thank you for the both palyers devotion to give such an epic game~!
This is great !!
I saw this game before i came to USA.
It was my last game that i saw in Korea. So that reminds me this game.
one of the main reasons why sc2 is no match to sc in terms of strategy and balance is because Bill Roper who was the head programmer for sc left Blizzard North a loooooooong time ago
I love watching Jaedong vs. Stork. The games are all great quality and fun to watch. Reminds me of the WCG 2009 finals, though Stork must feel really good now after beating his rival.
The extra micro required with zerg wore Jaedong down, still one of the most entertaining and epic SC:BW game 10+ years later
옛날생각난다 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ송병구나 이제동이나 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ클래스가
Showed up in recommendation in 2022.
such a game. i'm speechless. how Jaedong is dripping!! gosh...
What a biggggggg game !!! This is the best P v Z replay that I have ever seen.
This is crazy! One of the best pvz ever. And damn stork just retired. Watching this makes me sad. I knew he was good and he is good to this day making ASLs but I didn't realize until watching this game just how GOSU stork was... have a happy retirement stork!
Watch his game against GGPlay. The one that is 83 minutes long. He was really really good.
@@tugrulerturk8270 I'll have to check that out tonight!!
damn, jaedong seemed like he was under immense pressure, i never thought you can sweat like that playing starcraft
This is why I love the pro league.
Imagine how flash would fit into this...my mind will explode!
성큰 뽑아서 싸우고싶을껍니다.ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 해설이 절반은했다 ㅋㅋ
37:22 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 성큰 뽑아서 싸우고싶을거래 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Very good quality. Thanks!
Stork was like a boxer agains the ropes the whole match, takeing the hits barely on his feets until Jaedong got "exhausted"
졌지만 진짜 멋있었다.
Absurdly epic. If I was Jaedong I'd have nightmares about psy storms for months after this match...
That drop that didnt quite kill the 12 o clock was the turning point, surprised Jaedong didnt attack back up there for a while after the drop almost did it.
Creo que nunca vi perder a Jaedong muy buen partido de sc1 el mejor juego de todos los tiempos
O.M.F.G WHAT A GAME!!!!
I was on the top of my nerves 15 minutes into the game! GO STORK!
the best game in 2010 so far.. simply amazing :)
I think there is no game ever more fierce than this. I'd like to rate perfect game made by between zerg and protoss.
damn this match is monstrous, maybe the largest in terms of scale and number of simultaneous battles all around map, drops inside enemy base, psi storms and dark swarms. just wow.
이제동 땀범벅되가면서 아쉬워하는 모습이
인상적인 명경기
둘다 겁나 잘하네ㄷㄷ
A couple times now. Out of JD's last 25 ZvP, he's been beat 4 times. It was Stork every time.
Such a hard desicion: do you go for the only mining base or finish off the production? Poor Jaedong :( Such a good game.
my top two favorites players. awesome gg.
grats to the winner.
yea this is def one of the more epic games ive ever seen
Two of the most talented e-sporters of all time?
i highly encourage all people watching this match to watch it from start to finish.
this is one epic SHIT!!!!!111 ill be seeing this match in their top 10's perhaps.
im so happy for the winner, and lots of credits for the unfortunate one.
So this is how Jaedong's insane ZvP win streak ended... Fucking epic game in every way.
수고했어요 제동 형...그래도 잘하셨음...!!!
Best game I've seen in a while.
한타이기고 멀티치면 자원없어서 이길줄알고그리했던거같은데 닥템영웅...본진쳤으면이겼을듯
The game is the most exciting that I've ever seen! (for Zerg VS P)
Good game!!
he was sooooooo close to win the game
Fantastic game! Jaedong sweating like crazy in the end ^^
프로리그의 총사령관, 개인리그의 폭군
Still wondering why he didn’t use Zerg Queen. It could snipe the High Templars and use the Ensnare to good effect when combined with Dark Swarm from the Defilers.
이제동진짜울겠다ㅜ
remembers me of the good old times...
Jaedong certainly disliked losing this one O.o Held out far longer than what's usual.
확실히 2보단 1이 재밌다 ㅇㅇ..2도 잘 만든것 같긴 한데 뭔가 2%부족함
Both you are great!
damn jaedong is sweating and stork is wearing heavy duty jacket......
ㅋㅋㅋ 헤비듀티자켓 ㅋㅋ
9 years later, Jaedong still lost to Stork 3-0 in KSL season 3....
You can't even compare both Jaedongs. In 2010 Jaedong was the best player in the world after Flash and Bisu. Now he is just old. Huge respect for him still fighting but, it's time to let go honestly.
@@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard But even at his prime he didn't defeat Stork... and now his games.... he's struggling, its hard to be a Jaedong fan.
@@CheeKiatTeo Indeed. Jaedong had the best ZvP and almost every Protoss struggles at the matchup because of the huge level of micro required (storms, use of reavers, etc) but Bisu has a winning record vs Jaedong and Stork is tied with Jaedong. That's how good they were. I wouldn't find it hard to be a JD fan honestly.
@@CheeKiatTeo Take a look at the finals of WCG 2009 casted by Tastosis back in the day. Jaedong 2-1 Stork. Amazing series and JD came out on top. If Stork hadn't lost so many finals in his career he would have been better than Flash even. He just was The King of Silver.
Total Respect...What a game!
they were thinking so much they were sweating... especially jaedong..
i dont even think i can sweat that much from a workout lol
AMAZING!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU!!! :):)
Man Stork is a fighter! XD He stayed in so long haha
I was actually one of the best in America when the WCG first started. But I didn't have a job so I couldn't travel to the various locations where the prelims were held.
I believe Stork deservers the win. BW is not all about APM , but strategy. High Templar was actually best choice , in the case minerals were running out since you can use storm that could kill many zerg units and even after that you still can make archon to fight.
And each game has its own style , so its hard in its way. Never compare what game's harder than others coz its just simple as if you spend more and more time to pratice , you will be pro , otherwise , you stay noob. that's it
병구 홧팅 ~
Music: Saosin - Is This Real
*spoilers*
Amazing game by stork. JD definitely underestimated stork after stork made sooooo many mistakes (ling run by, zealots getting picked off, losing corsair, losing two early battles)
Stork was on his 4th game that night so of course he's all warmed up (he even said so in the post game interview) so once game got to management, he started catching up.
Pimpest moment goes not only to his 8zealot drop, but to his EXPANDING as well. JD was so distracted he didnt kill it in time.
starcraft players old day play with such incredible high skill. WOW
WOW... Simply amazing.
Thanks Nevake!
Man, JD is sweating like a beast. Stork is so stoic.
Holy shit this game was awesome. I only played a campaign as a kid on this game so i have never watched a top tier starcraft 1 game like this. Im wondering why stork only used zealot, high templar and archon late game though. Why didn't he get reavers, dragoons, dark archons and possibly air?
Linus Thunell I dont know that much about it but i think it had something to do with low resources on the map, also that high templars are too good against zerg, and you need to support them.
Linus Thunell also that late game protoss units take way too much time to build and develop, Jaedong never let him catch a breath
dragoons suck vs zerg. late game zerg army is lings which counters goons. Dark archons are situational. Costs alot of money. 250min 200gas just for one and 100/100 for resesarch. Reavers are even more expensive. 400 mins 200 gas and 15min for each scarab. as well as shuttle 200 mins. And shuttle speed which is 200/150. Thats alota money for just 2 reavers. Archons are economical. 2 high temps can storm 6 times total then merge and still be useful in a fight.
It's hard to say because your unit composition can change over the course of the game. Kind of a long explanation, but here goes.
Reavers can be good against Zerg but are very specalized, requiring a lot of control and protection to use effectively. They also require shuttles (preferably with speed), which is more research/tech. Stork could throw a few in here in this composition and they would have been potentially useful, but obviously not super necessary as he still won.
Dragoons are overall pretty weak against Zerg. Zerglings, Hydras, Mutas, Defilers... a bunch of the Zerg army destroys Dragoons. Dragoons can be good with support and are decent against Lurkers, but once Dark Swarm comes into play they fall off pretty hard. Dragoons CAN be good in the early/mid before Dark Swarm becomes a problem and when they have back-up, but they do have issues in the late-game (mainly due to Dark Swarm).
Dark Archons are super specialized and are VERY rare in high level play. They are very expensive and their skills are pretty gimmicky. Mind Control is just not very useful in a real match (stealing one unit but losing all your shields and energy is meh, not to mentioning WAITING for the energy to even cast). Feedback... A good Zerg won't expose their Defilers. Maelstrom seems good in theory, but why disable when you can just kill with Psi Storm/Archon attack. Protoss is a gas hungry race, so it's not worth dumping gas into Dark Archons when you can just get more High Templars/Archons.
Protoss air is pretty weak against Zerg. Corsairs are great, but they are made specifically to hunt overlords and kill Mutas. Once the Zerg covers their overlords with anti-air and doesn't build Mutas, Corsairs are pretty useless. Scouts are WAY too expensive for their lackluster anti-ground abilities. Even if Zerg goes air... Protoss would still go Storm/Dragoon/Corsair over Scouts. Carriers are very rare in PvZ due to Dark Swarm and the mobile Zerg Army.
On the other hand:
Zealots are incredibly good against Zerg overall. Lurkers are really their only counter on the ground (Mutas are usually kept in check by Corsairs), which is why the Zealots need support like Psi Storm/Dragoons/Archons. But Zealots are a mineral only unit (super important since Protoss wants to spend gas elsewhere) that have a ton of hp, high attack, fast movement speed (with leg enhancement). Zealots (especially with Archon support) absolutely melt through Zerglings. They aren't punished by Dark Swarm. They are VERY good against Hydras (It takes ~26 Hydra shots to kill ONE Zealot while the Zealot only takes 5 hits to kill a Hydra. The only exception is if the Zealots can't get a surround; then Hydras kill them.). While they do low damage against Ultras (the Ultra's armor bonus is twice as effective against Zealots), they can also tank the shit out of Ultras while your other units kill them. And multiple Zealots can surround one Ultra, so that helps with the damage reduction.
High Templar... Psi Storm is just TOOO good against the high number/low hp Zerg army. Protoss can only hang with Zerg with AoE, and Psi Storm is the premiere AoE.
And of course, once the HTs run outta energy, Archons are also very useful. HTs rarely will survive after storming due to their low hp and slow movement speed, so merging into Archons is smart. Not to mention Archons are great. Their high HP, high damage output (that is an AoE) trades well with Ultras/Lurker and absolutely melts Zerglings. +3 Archons 1 shot Zerglings and damage others nearby. With Zealots in front to do damage and absorb hits, Archons just absolutely melt through Lings. They also do decent damage under Dark Swarm (and are relatively immune to Plague).
Now I figure most people wont't read all this, but whatever, it was fun writing. Hope this helps.
Hawffensive Thx nice explanation.