Funleader XSLIM-M 28mm f/2.8 Pancake lens review

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
  • Nice nice nice! A GORGEOUS pancake lens arrived in my 'test lab' for evaluation...but can its image quality match is dinky beauty?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 78

  • @skazhenyj
    @skazhenyj 10 місяців тому +15

    Sharpness is probably greatly affected by testing this lens on a Sony sensor with thick filter stack though. Corners should (if the lens is any good) look much better on a Leica.

  • @qingyunwang3802
    @qingyunwang3802 10 місяців тому +11

    This lens can be seen as the mass production version of the hand-made 28mm f/2 Apoqualia from MS-Optics, both aesthetically and optically, down to the field curvature.

    • @BaldRavenHaired
      @BaldRavenHaired 10 місяців тому +5

      Underrated comment. Mr Miyasaki is truly a legend

  • @cameron-w
    @cameron-w 10 місяців тому +4

    It would be cool to see a re-test of some of the popular EF mount 100-400 lenses. Love the videos!

  • @PavlosPapageorgiou
    @PavlosPapageorgiou 10 місяців тому +1

    Your actual pictures with the lens look much better than the tests.

  • @blazerbarrel2
    @blazerbarrel2 10 місяців тому +9

    Be nice if a little sharper at 2.8 and corners . Rather spend on something else . Great build , look and function , just lacking optics .

    • @Eikenhorst
      @Eikenhorst 10 місяців тому +1

      It is a lens with 'character' to it as they say :P

    • @Durio_zibethinus
      @Durio_zibethinus 10 місяців тому +2

      Pancake lenses tends to get a glare and CA issue, but their sharpness is usually brilliant even the cheap one. Sadly this one is not.

  • @KingFiercer_zip
    @KingFiercer_zip 10 місяців тому +3

    The field curvature is strog, look at the corners at 0:47 and 5:42

  • @TheBEARofHIGHWAY1
    @TheBEARofHIGHWAY1 10 місяців тому +7

    I love 28mm focal length. Never did before 2023 but its grown on me that I now have about 13 of them. They really give a great look and I recommend everyone own and try one.

    • @professionalidiot07
      @professionalidiot07 10 місяців тому +9

      why do you need 13 of them? genuine question

    • @Durio_zibethinus
      @Durio_zibethinus 10 місяців тому +1

      28mm isn't my cup of tea. But I understand the charm behind it. Actually, many smartphones use 28mm EQ, due to the versatility of 28mm itself

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@professionalidiot07that's like asking a person why they have 13 dogs/cats. The usual answer : because they all are unique.

    • @benisboy2697
      @benisboy2697 10 місяців тому

      ​@@trym2121i love my 13 cats because of their smell

    • @anupew3276
      @anupew3276 10 місяців тому

      @@professionalidiot07 having 10 vintage lenses between 50-55mm I would guess collector and/or special optical characteristics/flaws of each of them :)

  • @SovietLensReviews
    @SovietLensReviews 10 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of my old Industar-50-2! Except with worse image quality in the corners. Still, a fun lens, you can't complain when modern lens companies do something like this.

  • @Mamo878
    @Mamo878 10 місяців тому +1

    Stick it on F8 on a small APS-C camera and zone focus for a compact street photography rig. That could be fun.

  • @StymyParsley
    @StymyParsley 10 місяців тому +4

    Appearance wise this would look really cool on the new Nikon Zf or on any Fuji camera

    • @kevc.2958
      @kevc.2958 10 місяців тому

      for zf I'd just get the z28 2.8

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 10 місяців тому

      Yeah you have native 28 compact for Nikon z or even the 26

  • @airdailyx
    @airdailyx 10 місяців тому +2

    Looking at this video, i'd have no trouble taking quality photos with this lens. It makes the leica pocketable and looks cool. When used at the right F#'s it's very reasonably sharp but i'd really like to use this on an M3 where it's shortcomings are not so noticeable on film. The deal breaker though is not having click stops on the aperture ring.

  • @colnagocowboy
    @colnagocowboy 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder how this would look on my lietz Minolta CL

  • @princeharbinger
    @princeharbinger 10 місяців тому +1

    Neat lens. I think for the price I'll go for the Viltrox 28mm F/1.8.

  • @thedarkslide
    @thedarkslide 10 місяців тому +31

    This is not a landscape lens. You put this lens on a Leica rangefinder for candid snapshots/documentary/street photography where sharpness does not matter.

    • @0M0rty
      @0M0rty 10 місяців тому +6

      What's also worth mentioning is that wide angle lenses designed for Leica cameras tend to perform especially poorly on Sony bodies, due to thick filter stack which introduces additional field curvature.
      Not that I think this lens would be corner sharp on Leica but it'd probably perform somewhat better.

    • @thedarkslide
      @thedarkslide 10 місяців тому +4

      @@0M0rty I have the lens and it is pretty bad in the corners on my M10.

    • @cassiofonte8172
      @cassiofonte8172 4 місяці тому +2

      Maybe you can take the landscape photo through a window to frame it 😅

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen 5 місяців тому

    Trying to decide between this and the 55mm OTUS

  • @fintux
    @fintux 10 місяців тому

    Funny how I just thought if you have playlists for the different mounts when I started watching the video :D

  • @ArminHirmer
    @ArminHirmer 3 місяці тому

    I have it, it's nice. But yes for the IQ one can get out of it, it is a little on the pricey side of things

  • @ramongutierrez8249
    @ramongutierrez8249 9 місяців тому

    I was waiting for this review

  • @striderwhiston9897
    @striderwhiston9897 10 місяців тому

    Oh, also Chris, Have you considered doing a FAQ or QNA again? Would be interesting to do it again I think!

  • @Seapatico
    @Seapatico 10 місяців тому +3

    I'd be so curious to see results on an M10. I used the Leica 50mm 1.4 asph on my Sony cameras for 5-6 years as a full time wedding photographer, and I don't think I ever got a sharp corner, because the two just don't work great together.
    All the same, though, I think this might be a lens that is greater than the sum of its traits? Lol. Like someone else said in the comments, I think at f8 as a street lens, or wide open for interesting portraits, this could provide some serious interest for such a low price.

  • @sunlbx
    @sunlbx 10 місяців тому

    Please Chris, make a re-review of a classic legendary tamron 17-50! There are so many of them on ebay and people still use them a lot!

  • @AndreiDimaReviews
    @AndreiDimaReviews 10 місяців тому

    Can you please review the Fujifilm XF 14mm f2.8. Nice review!

  • @SlotCarNewsOfficial
    @SlotCarNewsOfficial 10 місяців тому

    even with the flaws I think it would be a fun lens to use.

  • @daniel635biturbo
    @daniel635biturbo 10 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of the Industar 50 f3,5 !
    But I think the 50 year old, 50mm are slightly better in image performance, and the "fiddlyness factor" is on par 😅

    • @anupew3276
      @anupew3276 10 місяців тому +1

      got Industar 50-2 too, fiddlyness factor is so high its almost unusable, this one seems to be way more usable :D Cant say much about image quality, I think its a bit worse than this little thing in center and midframe. Maybe not on the corner, but really bad anyway. Never tested it rigorously and its possible that horrible image quality is just an user error as working with it is quite a nightmare for me :)

  • @AardvarkAdventure
    @AardvarkAdventure 10 місяців тому +3

    It's a copy of the MS-Optics Apoqualia, at least externally.

    • @MarshallBananar
      @MarshallBananar 10 місяців тому +4

      My immediate thoughts, it's crazy that those designs are getting copied by chinese manufacturers
      But not too surprising, they're all using classic lens arrangements and are really compact and bright
      Exciting stuff

    • @beepboopboopbeepbeep
      @beepboopboopbeepbeep 10 місяців тому

      I wonder how it actually compares to MS-Optics equivalent.

  • @larsltj
    @larsltj 9 місяців тому

    Symmetrical RF wide angles doesn't work well on a Sony sensor with thick sensor filter stack. The camera need to be Kolari upgraded to be tested really, or get a Leica.

  • @friedeggsareawesome
    @friedeggsareawesome 10 місяців тому

    Quality looks pretty bad, but definitely agree it's a nice looking lens and I'm a huge believer in get what you can afford and go have some fun, I think those little instax cameras have brought that feeling back to many people.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 10 місяців тому

    Cool little lens!

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel7899 10 місяців тому

    Great and useful review as always!
    I will stick to my selection of 28s offering a wide variety in style and character:
    - Canon RF 28 2.8 pancake
    - Leica Summaron 28 5.6
    - Voigtländer 28 mm/1:2,0 Ultron asph.
    The field curvature of this lens is barely to be used in your preference with the Funleader.

  • @timothykieper
    @timothykieper 10 місяців тому +5

    Considering the price and manual shooting, I would rather buy 10 vintage lenses for about the same price.

    • @gerekappo
      @gerekappo 10 місяців тому

      Yup, the Industar should give a similar look/feel to use it, but is a fifty, not a 28.
      Either way, is pretty cool they are making lenses like this.

    • @peterebel7899
      @peterebel7899 10 місяців тому +1

      Can you share the source for 10 M-mount less for 300 Bucks?

    • @beepboopboopbeepbeep
      @beepboopboopbeepbeep 10 місяців тому

      you are not the target audience of this lens. its actually really decent option for a street photographer.

  • @kennethnielsen3864
    @kennethnielsen3864 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 10 місяців тому +1

    By all means not the best lens ever made, but it would perform a lot better on an M mount camera. Sony cameras are notorious for not getting on well with M mount lenses.

  • @AgnostosGnostos
    @AgnostosGnostos 10 місяців тому

    Maybe is time to buy a leica m mount camera even a used one.

  • @TidusGoh
    @TidusGoh 7 місяців тому

    How would you say this compares to the samyang 35mm f2.8?

  • @photog.prince
    @photog.prince 10 місяців тому

    Christopher please find us a tiny pancake lens we can wear as a necklace!! Lol

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 10 місяців тому

      Just make that disposable lens from disposable camera. It's just one piece tiny of plastic glued to body cap

  • @ganeshs2420
    @ganeshs2420 10 місяців тому

    why there are no review for Nikon lens ?

  • @piotrch0
    @piotrch0 10 місяців тому

    If I had the money, I'd rather just get myself a Ricoh GR III (APS-C, full-frame equivalent 28mm focal length, sharp wide open f/2.8 aperture lens and IBIS).

  • @JLEOY
    @JLEOY 10 місяців тому

    anyone know of a 25.5mm to 55mm step up ring? curious on putting this lens on an aps c camera then an anamorphic adapter

  • @striderwhiston9897
    @striderwhiston9897 10 місяців тому

    Always wondered, what does Leica offer that other companies don't? I don't mean this rhetorically, I do genuinely want to know, I feel the specs don't really tell the full story.

    • @trym2121
      @trym2121 10 місяців тому

      100% about micro contrast and rendering. They make everything else just at the right amount, in one word, nice. Nothing else.
      That Leica experience all can be replicated using other camera but all stupid snob would say you pay all for those tech but use it like 70s.
      Analogy is like cooking knife, you can cut anything with usual chef knife type or santoku or chinese cleaver (depend on the culture) but having boning knife just make life easier for that specific job.

  • @izelennkhan
    @izelennkhan 8 місяців тому

    Feels too expensive for the optical performance. If priced in the $100-150 range, it would be a cool lens to have, but... I mean, uncorrected field curvature? I expect better from the 7artisans 35 f/5.6 pancake lens, and *that* is priced $99...

  • @AyeBeAPirate
    @AyeBeAPirate 10 місяців тому

    What in the world is going on with that field curvature at 5:43? My goodness, it looks like someone just picked random parts of the image to be in focus.
    Could still be a fun lens, but that's quite the "quirk."

    • @peterebel7899
      @peterebel7899 10 місяців тому +1

      Well observed!
      You get a close subject in the center sharp while you gave infinity sharp in the edges.
      Great for framing a far subject behind close foreground.
      But less gras for an average center focussed composition.
      If the field curvature would be the other way around I would buy this lens instantly.

  • @sclogse1
    @sclogse1 8 місяців тому

    Buy a Russian turret viewfinder instead, Loads of personality, super clear glass, and you can actually use them.

  • @oohms88
    @oohms88 10 місяців тому

    It reminds me a lot of the Industar 69

  • @TheBEARofHIGHWAY1
    @TheBEARofHIGHWAY1 10 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if this lens gives Swirly Bokeh and that is why the corner sharpness is so bad?

  • @Penguins247
    @Penguins247 10 місяців тому

    This really needs to be tested on a Leica body; as the difference in the sensor stack thickness means that the corners will be badly off on E-mount.

    • @CableWrestler
      @CableWrestler 10 місяців тому

      I spent ages thinking: "What the fuck is this guy on about?"
      But then laying in bed and picturing it all, you're absolutely correct.

  • @JesusCorrea_
    @JesusCorrea_ 10 місяців тому

    This lens is perfect for APSC cameras and it is also perfect for street photography. In short, this lens does or does have to be used on Fujifilm cameras

  • @spectralcav
    @spectralcav 4 місяці тому

    It looks and performs like a lens from the 1940s.

  • @JaySilva88
    @JaySilva88 10 місяців тому +1

    This looks more like a toy than a lens, too small for usage in my opinion. Also zero corner quality...

  • @TheCount66
    @TheCount66 10 місяців тому

    First.

  • @Stop-All-War
    @Stop-All-War 8 місяців тому

    Awful corners, no thanks

  • @rock3times
    @rock3times 10 місяців тому

    Must be another chinese product...

  • @ritrattoaziendale
    @ritrattoaziendale 10 місяців тому +1

    Another useless junk lens on the market

    • @tommygallegos2230
      @tommygallegos2230 10 місяців тому +4

      Damn bro you need a hug?

    • @peterebel7899
      @peterebel7899 10 місяців тому

      So you prefer the average men's North Korean market experience?