I use to struggle with this immensely!! When I heard my ex husband passed away. He.was a horrible, abusive husband, father, provider, and my kids and I were dealt severe emotional trauma from this man. He wrecked havoc upon our lives. He was the epitome of evil. Upon his passing, he told my daughter, Im going to meet Jesus now. That disturbed me greatly, I have to admit. Thinking.of him walking Pearly Gates because of his act of asking for forgiveness, and God welcoming him home with open arms. While we were still here in this realm dealing with the aftermath of his cruelty. Didnt seem fair at all to me. Im just being honest here with my feelings. This is the main focal point that sent me on my spiritual journey of who God really is. Im slowly coming to deal with my shadow work, ridding the hate and anger and unforgiveness for this man. Its not easy to do, but I am.. so thank you Logan, for there are many of us out here that needs this amazing word, and the study your putting forth. Your healing hearts!! I cant thank you enough.
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing that. I first want to say I'm sorry that you had to experience all of that pain and trauma. Secondly, the idea that someone can spend their entire lives inflicting misery and suffering onto others and then have a “deathbed conversion” where they accept Jesus and get to step into the pearly gates of heaven free from the consequences of a lifetime of harmful actions toward others has honestly NEVER sat well with me. Deep down, it didn't feel right. I'm all for mercy, grace, and forgiveness. Those are crucial elements of the spiritual journey. However, there is also a universal law of sowing and reaping that is unavoidable that says each of us will face the repercussions of our actions at some point, in this life or the next. This is not negative or punishment… it’s restorative and necessary for our development. It produces correction, healing, understanding, and an expansion of consciousness, resulting in a more loving and compassionate existence of a being (spiritual transformation & evolution). To me, that model of reality makes the most sense, and it deeply resonates with my conscience.
I have been reading Your Souls Gift, The life you planned before you were born by Robert Schwartz. It's an amazing book and also gives a better understanding as to why these things happen. It has helped me alot in my own shadow work. I highly recommend it and his previous book Your Soul's Plan.
All right, I want tell you a few things that will make you feel better first off. Congratulations on learning how to truly forgive this man and remember to forgive yourself for selling yourself out for someone who was never good enough for you. UNEQUALLY YOLKED I really hope that your healing is so complete that the first red flag that shows up with any man you learn to run the other way instantly. No second chances, be very careful narcissists package themselves up like a very pretty gift 🎁 When we die, we get what we call a life review and we are shown how others felt by our bad deeds and every other horrible thing we did to hurt others. You’re also shown the good things that you did. So, for every thing that they did that was never resolved. They’re going to FEEL all the PAIN that YOU felt so when HE died and he had his life review, he probably fell to his knees, feeling your pain and his children’s pain, and now he has to live with that , and try to FORGIVE HIMSELF in heaven!!! Yes it’s true!! WE JUDGE OURSELVES!!!!! You should have tremendous emotional release knowing this truth, knowing that he literally fell on his face, crying and wailing over how much pain he put you and the family though to feel it through the actual hurt party. Wow just think about that!!! I think often when people die they’re actually earthbound spirits because they don’t want to face that life review or they have such a strong emotional attachment to earth and their belongings or whatever it was that would definitely make them earthbound. I think that’s why a lot of people reincarnate because they keep trying to learn their life lesson and obviously he never did so. He probably had to reincarnate again and face the same challenges all over again there’s nothing new under the sun. There is a MASSIVE element of unconditional love in heaven, where everyone that looks at you knows everything that you’ve ever done to anybody, as there are NO secrets in heaven. BUT THEY LOVE YOU AND ACCEPT YOU UNCONDITIONALLY, BUT ….. you actually have to forgive yourself and it’s very difficult to do that when you realize the depth of the hurt that you inflicted onto a humans earth life experience. Everything is recorded in the Akashic records ( some call it the hall of records) EVERY THOUGHT WE HAVE, EVERY ACTION AND SOUL EXPRESSION EXPERIENCE and you have full access to those records when you are in the heavenly realms whether you’re really passed permanently into the realm or are a traveling Astro traveler passing through. So you could just look at someone you don’t have to look anything up in a computer you don’t need to run a background check, you know everything good and bad they’ve ever done, so what happens when you die you take your full consciousness with you. Your personality goes with you. I know that seems horrible to think but they have to feel your pain , I think something like that is profound and would change it a soul instantly. Apparently, there are healing centers in heaven, to actually heal somebody’s broken soul. Now the reason that I know this is because there are many people that have the ability to do something called astral traveling. They can actually leave their meat suit body laying on the bed and exit with their spiritual body into the heavenly realms or anywhere else you want to go in the entire world and universe and Multiverse. We all have the ability to do this!!! The ones that do this all come back saying the same descriptions of what they’ve seen and experienced in the heavenly realms. If you are a person that has ever experienced sleep paralysis, that is the final stage that you need to be in within your brainwave state to exit your physical body. All you have to do is think about leaving with your mind and do not move your body, body asleep 💤 brain awake, but in almost sleep state, move your spirit body you will know it’s happening. You will feel the vibrations. You might sink down in the bed. You might get the sleep paralysis or not or loud ringing in the ears. You may even see an entity ( Hatman or something else) come inside your bedroom just send love frequency feelings towards it and it will go away. It’s like a gatekeeper. Never fear…. Even Yeshua said fear not 365 times in the Bible. If you wish to learn more about this, you can look up the work of Darius J Wright, the Robert Monroe Institute. Those are two really great places to start best of luck if you are interested in that. I really hope that with what I’ve said, has given you a level of comfort that you’ve never experienced, knowing that he actually had to cry over what he did. I was also married to a very cruel man who had potential for a lot of love, but he had a lot of problems and although I don’t think he really loved me, I loved him with all of my heart unconditionally, and he was such a monster of a man sometimes I think about his life review and what it will be like for him to feel what I felt with everything that he did to me which included calling the police on me on a huge lie and putting me in jail for three weeks, cleaning out the bank accounts, empty the house of all of our belongings, and moving to Aruba and filing for divorce, and never speaking to me again when I loved him with all of my heart for 23 years. I never saw this coming, yet his betrayals were many during our marriage, he only said sorry to me about 5 times. 💔 The pain of that abandonment trauma almost killed me so I’m expecting his life review is not going to go very well and I have comfort knowing that . Much love to you, soul sister
@Golden-Haired-Sif Thank you for taking your.time out to share this with me. Yes, I have seen many testimonials on Darius's website and know.about the controlled OBE's. . They are phenomenal!! The testimonies are healing in themselves, I agree 100%. Thank you kindly
@LoganBarone // I just found you this morning and you without a doubt will be shared with all my friends and family who just don't get it. Thank you. You'll be getting millions of subscribers.
@Populous1 The exact quote is "“But thus I counsel you, my friends: Mistrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. They are people of a low sort and stock; the hangmen and the bloodhound look out of their faces. Mistrust all who talk much of their justice! Verily, their souls lack more than honey. And when they call themselves the good and the just, do not forget that they would be pharisees, if only they had-power.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche --- A primary point he was aiming at is this: For the further-evolved human, although limited in our moral development as we struggle to gradually overcome the limits and failings inherent to being a Great Ape, the best of us understand this: "Justice", in its' truest form, is an attempt to prevent and heal destructive imbalance. By this, it is meant: Any imbalance which separates people. from their social environment, ecosystem, and/or from themselves. In this way, we can prevent mutual sabotage of each other's individual and collective potential; potential for wellbeing, connection, and maturation. Justice, true justice, is an attempt to prevent and to heal ... ways of thinking and relating ... which separate us from each other and from the larger, living, breathing whole of the natural world. True justice is "restorative"; it is not destructive. It's not an outlet for revenge. Rather, it's a mechanism for healing which dissolves the need for any. It's teaching someone how to hold their own self accountable (both: to others, and to their own self), by requiring them to personally and directly participate in discovery and restoration for whatever they have unjustly done that has sabotaged and stolen from the journey of others. It is teaching people to "identify" WITH rather than "in contest against" others; so that they can understand how they were harming themselves when they were harming others. We must teach judges, juries, politicians, and the voting public, ... that very same wisdom. So that they can participate in harmony with that most necessary project. But for this, we must educate the general public into the equally necessary understanding that libertarian Free Will is not a real thing. Because only then can we help an entire society mature into social and judicial reform ... into a system which stops working against its own interests; switching over to a system which seeks to understand and resolve the true causal mechanisms which cause crime, in order to much more effectively prevent crime. And also to provide effective rehabilitation and restoration for all.
@Populous1 I think he means punishment for the sake of punishment is not a good motivation, rather punishment for the sake of learning and doing better is a good motivation.
@@ChrilimanI don’t think there should be punishment at all. Instead I think they should be love, education or whatever the wrongdoer needs. I know when my parents used to punish me as a kid thinking they were teaching me it never taught me anything other then I better not do this and have my parents find out, if anything it hardened me more. I think if our reason for being good is to win a reward or avoid a punishment it’s all for the wrong reasons. I love the idea that sin is an illness in need of healing not an evil in need of punishing and I believe in doing good because you genuinely care about others not to win a reward, avoid a punishment of appease God or anyone else. When I hear people say things like if there’s no hell and no punishment for sin why not just do whatever the heck you want I wanna say to them well because we care about our fellow humans ❤
Logan you’ve got it and communicate it so well. Thank you! I’ve read and watched thousands of NDE testimonies and you have synthesized perfectly “Spiritual truth needs no convincing “ as we intuitively know
Love this explanation, I've seen a lot of these Nde and I feel the same, you be surprised what you learn from those who have already experienced the other side. Much love❤
Thank you for this video. I am actively dying from cerebral systemic lupus at 48. I feel that I am a kind and loving person although at times life is hard, God Bless and love to you and everyone here, Amen.
Thanks for watching❤️🙏 I am deeply moved by your courage and strength in facing this challenging time. Remember, you are a spiritual being having a human experience, and your true essence is eternal and divine. Death is not the end but a continuation of the soul's journey. My thoughts and prayers are with you during this time of transition. You are a divine being of light, and your spirit will continue to shine brightly even beyond the physical realm. Blessings to you on your journey.
@@myraspringfield-reich2536 h was only talking about the external hell the Christian’s talk about. Hell is real you just don’t go there till you refuse to reincarnate then once your karma is burned up you go back to source.
The Totality, "The ALL", it's all God. There is only God. Nothing but God. The entire Universe is God's Dream. There is no good or evil. Only God IS. This Universe is God's imagining.
@@rupertbear9116 there is definitely good and evil there’s just two sides of the same coin. There’s also definitely consequences to our actions. If you don’t want to live another life hear on earth you’ll have to align with the light.
synonyms of God= MIND, The Absolute. All we see is "that". And we are "that" as well. God & "us" are indivisible. When i listen to NDEs, a recurring theme is that this world is not real; that what happens here is unreal. Make of it what you will...
@@rupertbear9116all I’m saying don’t deny good or evil yes it’s one but don’t spread suffering and gain negative karma if you want enlightenment cause it will definitely hinder it. Take this as you will. Love ya
@@MrPitts-zf4qr In general the waters are muddied with good and evil because of another aspect of this world, which is relativity. Now, in theory that is supposed to work for us, but as a species, we've yet to bring ourselves to simply adhere to the golden rule that is just another word for karma or physics in this world. What you put out you will receive. What you look for, you will find. For better or worse. So be conscious creators, knowing that your sense of 'self' should be no smaller than planet wide. If it is smaller than that, it's still just a small shoot emerging, so be patient and hang in there and grow it. If all is God and you fall into the little morass of good and evil (little intending to mean, 'doing what's best for you and ignoring the greater good in situations'), you're still not wrong, just not as right as you could be. So again, a shoot still emerging from a darker environ. Not really blameworthy, just a measure of capacity at the moment, and who wants to ever be judged by a moment, they don't get to pick? No one, so the only solution isn't to render all judgment null and void, it's to raise your deeds to the level that such judgment doesn't matter. But the world is not a world of opposites, it's a world of degrees. Darkness doesn't contest with the Light, it's merely it's lack or absence. Otherwise God is not God but a half measure of its opposite.
Very nice video man. Quite long is the first impression, but immediately noticing it's rather easy to get immersed in the topic and follow you along, thanks to your narration quality.
I used to believe in the karma theory until I looked around and seen that I treat people really good and I never get it back My life is living hell as soon as I got my kids out of the house and could enjoy life without the stress of raising children My health went to hell. I've lost all belief in any good in this world. This is hell...
It's a loosh farm. Some people say it's a school but we're tricked into thinking there's progress in the same way crops need to be watered so they don't die before they're ready to be harvested. Hope that made sense. Detach and live life how you want to because none of this actually matters.
My young brother, you are a blessing to many with your videos! There are so many UA-cam channels that take something so pure & use it to their own purposes. I myself have had to follow those channels for a while, but finding some of their content contradictory to my own spiritual journey. It is so very beautiful to see our youth giving true thought to what & why they believe what they believe. To say “believe” with me I’d just trying to make a point to those that cherish that word, that definition of the word. To myself, I have come to a place where I perceive belief as something possessive (same as trust), which disconnects us from that which we shall call “God” here, in that it places walls in our own souls that need to be able to flow and allow for changes to be made in our perceptions as we continue each our own journey here in this realm. Anyway, I am blessed of you, my brother. Namaste!🙏
Logan, you have some great thoughts on the hell issue, as usual. As someone who has rejected the traditional notion of hell for 35 years (and of heaven for nearly 30 years), I agree completely that this is a shallow notion, and one that completely disregards true principles of justice, such as that the punishment should fit the crime. I wish many more would come to grasp this seemingly obvious conclusion. Well done. As I have said in other comments, I am a Biblical conditionalist. I would generally urge people to turn from Christian traditionalism to a true, Biblical view of our nature and destiny. To offer our answer to the above question, in contrast to the one you have given. The conditionalist's answer to the consequences of evil actions is simple: we believe that God graciously grants us life as a gift. He asks us then to use that life according to His standards, rules, and guidelines. If we refuse to do this and act in ways that He has proclaimed to be wicked and evil, He is under no obligation to give us another life after this one. We are free to seek life from another source, of course. Unfortunately for us, since God is the only true source of life, if we fail to satisfy Him that we deserve unending life, then our end will be death. The Bible's simple statement is, "The wages of sin is death." In a way we chose our own course: by rejecting the source of life, we embraced death. A conditionalist would say that this is consistent with reason and justice. The punishment fits the crime. While we do generally believe that God will raise the wicked back to life, if briefly, to put then on trial for their crimes, we ultimately believe that, whatever punishment He might enact prior to it, the ultimate end for the wicked is death and cessation of existence. In conclusion, as I've said before, I would urge people who are realizing the bankrupt nature of fundamentalist views on heaven and hell, not to give up on Jesus Christ and the Bible, but to turn from the errors of traditionalism to a true, Biblical view of these things and become a conditionalist, Biblical heretic. It is a path I've been following for decades. It avoids throwing the baby, Jesus Christ, out with the bath water. Thanks for your time, and for struggling over these issues. Nathan
Really enjoyed this! My take - “Justice” is a human construct/need. I don’t believe it is a spiritual construct. If our souls have many journeys/incarnations in this and other realities, we are bound to experience all sides of existence, and sometimes that may be one of non-alignment or very low vibration. I DO believe that immediately after crossing over from a low vibration/maybe even “evil” existence, souls may undergo a slower assention back to their natural state/higher self. Keep in mind, part of our souls ALWAYS remains in the higher realm, and we are just a projection from that, so a permanent separation from that wouldn’t really make sense.
Thank you so much, Logan, for all your insightful comments. As a fellow ex-fundamentalist Christian, it's great to hear someone else who's made the paradigm jump to unity consciousness! I have listened to so much good stuff from mystics and eastern gurus, but to hear these teachings expound in a way that fits into the teachings of Jesus and his mindset is rare. I was blown away when I first heard your podcasts on heaven and hell, because I was able to relate 100% to your experiences of leaving the 'church' after being enlightened by the true 'gospel'. I so much want my family, who are still on the fundamentalist path to see these truthsfor themselves, but I just hope that Jesus's own words will resonate with them enough to question the fallacies that the church continues to propagate. Much love to you, my brother and please keep sharing 🙏 ❤️
This is the first video I have seen of yours and it was incredibly inspiring... you see I was an atheist my whole life , or at lest I was up an till about 6 years ago. I have since concluded that there is a God, it was things like, mathematics seems too perfect, breakthroughs in the study of consciousness and most of all, Near Death Experiences as I have watched and read countless Interviews about them and it was always the same message, Love and Compassion for others, gratitude etc. and being an Aussie bloke that's not always easy. So I have been looking for guidance ever since I have been on this new journey. Nice work mate I'm really enjoying the channel, Cheers.
This explanation makes more sense than the religious one of burning in hell forever and another reason being that it's totally devoid of fear and control but full of taking responsibility and bearing the consequences of our actions. Thanks so much for this information and explanation. Hope this could be demonstrated to the people so they would realise fully and stop harming themselves. ❤️🙏🌹
Wow! Thanks Logan! I look forward to delving into this content with you! I appreciate how articulate you are and able to touch on each aspect in a way that makes it easy to understand. We have little excuse to hang onto our indoctrinations, when the truth is so apparent.
You are my twin in spirit, all which you shared is all which i share, my rock still needs polishing, the brain has to learn and accept new fundamentals, training in progress, thank you for the share, be good.
I study a book called A Course in Miracles scribed by a lady called Helen Shucman who was one of the head psychologists at Columbia university New York , she was athiest in belief at the start of scribing, the book took 7 years to write with the aid of her colleagues from 1967 , even though it uses names as Jesus and God , it emphasises it is a universal book and that it is just a supplement to other spiritual teachings and books
The concept of hell, sin and repentance stems from what humans believe, hate, want, and fear one of which is for their psychological security blanket/scapegoat to be worshipped alongside them so that it satisfies their overinflated self rightous religious ego and bias all without understanding what the Dunning-Kruger effect is, understanding analytical psychology, philosophy, determinism, free will, existentialism, therapy, enlightenment, etc.
I’ve had this question recently as well. And from all the NDE stories I’ve watched, mixed with hearing and reading all these teachers talking about unity consciousness and being one. I’ve come to about the same conclusion that the “punishment” is that fact that what you do to someone, you are doing to yourself. Have you read the book, “Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East”? This is touched on by one of the teachers written about in that book. I just finished the audio version, it is absolutely incredible! I look forward to your content every week Logan. Thank you!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes, I've heard of that book but haven't read it yet. It's definitely on my reading list. I've heard many great things about it. I appreciate the feedback and encouragement! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
The answer is karma or the universal law of cause and effect. Eternal torment is a punishment entirely disproportionate to any crime. Karma is proportionate as it allows the individual time to evaluate one's actions based on the negative or positive effects experienced.
My dear friend, thank you for your lovely show. I love stuff like this. You talk about heaven, it may be hell there is more than one level there are more than 10 levels there are more than 20 levels and this place. His. Wear We learn I am not saying that I know everything but I am a near death experience where I saw I saw and yes, I walked with Jesus Christ. Andy is for real no doubts about it and powerful.
It wasn't until man looked to the stars and thought, "Why are we here?" Then comes society and control. Man didn't know what good and evil was until knowledge. Thus, the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Society and Control are needed to keep the society functioning well so that maximum number of humans can be benefitted. And good and evil are not entirely objective or subjective.
The focus shifts from punishment to restoration and growth. The afterlife is seen as a realm for continued spiritual growth, learning, and development, helping souls to mature and reach their full potential. This journey may involve restorative justice, where individuals make amends and repair harm, as well as spiritual growth through purgation, re-education, and soul refinement. Souls may also undergo karmic resolution, resolving unfinished business and finding closure, leading to reconciliation with the Divine, oneself, and others. Through this process, souls are transformed, transmuting darkness into light, and evolving through spiritual stages. Ultimately, the purpose of life and the afterlife is not about avoiding punishment but about embracing growth, love, and unity, finding solace in the Divine embrace. This journey is not about reward or punishment but about becoming, unfolding like a lotus flower, petal by petal.
So grateful for stumbling across your teachings .. Absolutely everything you say resonates with my soul. People live their karma every moment, depending on their consciousness of the present moment. If that makes sense..lol Thank you so much!! ❤❤❤
I’ve had this same question to reflect upon. People that are just horrible or do things we judge on this earthly plane as evil. I do think in a round about way, these type of behaviors do give us a chance to experience hard things and learn from them. Like boundaries or resilience, adaptability forgiveness compassion etc. the duality we live in gives us experiences to either constrict or expand from as we learn the hindsight from the experiences. But what happens to the people that do the harm? Maybe next time around they receive the same harm. To balance things. But I would hope not. If I can forgive a heinous crime put upon my child or self, then why would I want them to go through the same experience? I wouldn’t wish them harm in this life or another. I do see we need duality and hard experiences to grow from. But some life’s are easier or harder than others. So I like these types of videos… they make me think. :)
Even before I started living from the heart when I used to have hatred for a lot of types of people (mainly abusive people), nothing in me ever wanted any one to suffer...FOREVER. It's so beyond unreasonable. I think every one no matter how much vengeance is in their heart, feels the same way, so how could God be so much more vengeful? Doesn't make sense. We all eventually come to understand how we hurt others. We can feel the emotion and some choose to truly feel it in the next life from what I understand. I don't think it's mandatory to learn lessons in the hardest possible way, but I can see how some people would choose that.
I don t know to love and I treated people not good. I was diagnosed as Narcisisst.I have shame and feel guilt and I have horrible pain physical and in psychically.Had an hell expierience some month ago. And a healer told me that I have no soul I would be an Annunaki. I would do everything to feel love in my heart... not feeling like a vampire who depends on the energy of others to feel alive. I beg god to show my heart the love I would like to show to others...😢
I agree with everything you said. The only question I still have is the evolution of really evil and cruel people. Where are they on the soul’s evolution journey? Is this their first incarnation and don’t know any better? How else could they be so cruel if they have evolved from even one previous life.
The original meaning of the word sin is to miss the mark. The mark we are aiming for is unconditional love, the Christ, Unity Consciousness we truly are. However, as humans, we are conditioned to judge, believing there is right and wrong or good and bad. In that sense, sinning is a human condition based on duality consciousness. I also believe there is not a destination of hell. Heaven and hell are states of being we bring into our experience of life based on the choices we make. I believe that the choices we make in this lifetime determine the experience we have in the next aspect of eternal life.
This incarnation we live on earth, could conceivably be considered hell. Generally the reason for being a "bad" person is that it is in response to bad things happening in this incarnation. Nobody is born a bad person IMO.
I always ask as first question. Who defines sin? If I wear mixed fabric clothes 2000 years ago I could be punished possibly by death. So, it depends on who is defining sin.
Thank you, fellow seeker. You speak definitively. I ask, respectfully, whereof do you speak? How do you know (italicized) that this existence is a 'school'---rather than a 'prison', for instance, or a series of images generated and recirculated, with variations, endlessly, by Mind of which we are a part? Or . . . . Back to the question. But what authority do you select one of any number of imaginable possibilities definitively?
Logan, I've been scratched in the supernatural several times. The first time it was deep and long. If there aren't evil spirits, do you have any opinion on what or who would do that? Plus I feel that I follow signs given me and then I miss the blessing intended. Then I start feeling inadequate. Now I think those supernatural signs were sinnister and cunning and masquerading as something else. Strange because when it all began I was believing in there's only one all that is and that love and intelligence would lead me to blessings. The completely opposite happened.
Do you have any good reading material to help start one journey? I have started thinking for myself and not simply believing something just because that is what we are told. Thanks
Yes, but I would recommend going for a while without reading books. Just meditate. When the time is right, you can go back to reading books after you have spent time unlearning and letting go of dogmatic conditioning. So, after all of that, some reading material I would recommend for the journey are the works of Alan Watts, Ken Wilber, Ram Dass, Yogananda, the Upanishads, A Course in Miracles, Law of One, Eckhart Tolle, and Rupert Spira.
I believe the people who have had NDE's. They say no one judges you. But you will judge yourself and experiece/become painfully aware of your actions that brought intentional harm to others. This is where you are naturally forced to repent of all wrong doings. But then you are also shown the benefits of your kind actions. Their is no place fir condemnation outside of the flesh only spiritusl cirrection of self by self. Hou have to purify yourself to ho to higher levels.
Good afternoon, Logan. If Christians actually took the time to research things for themselves, they would lea whole lot, and one thing they would definitely learn is that once the body has ceased to exist (death) and is returned to the dust (burial or cremation), then the spirit--the real part of us, moves on and never experiences any of the feelings that we had in our earthly bodies, because unlike the body, the spirit has no nerves, bones, skin or muscle mass. Therefore, it's impossible for anyone to burn, because after death, we return to spirit form, and spirits can't be destroyed. Science proves this, but oh yeah, that's right! Churches don't believe in science. 😂
This is an Energy Universe. You get what you give. Jesus Taught Forgiveness. Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Peace through Forgiveness. This will stop the bad consequences coming. Hell is Here 😊❤
We in these human bodies can never truly know or understand the effects on others our careless words or deeds can have. The life review is to reveal to us the ripple effects of our actions. So I imagine that the rapist, child molester, murderer will be devastated and deconstructed by this review actually feeling the pain, fear, anger and horror that they inflicted upon another and not allowed to integrate back into the higher realms until they have cleared their souls and truly repent and remember who and what they really are. In these bodies, with no memory of our divinity we can get lost but we are always loved ❤
Hello, I am a well documented NDE survivor. I wonder still how we should come to terms with the hellish NDE's some have faced. Often in such cases they are given a second chance by Jesus or an angel who meets them there. If this hellscape they visit is not real, then I wonder if it's a false fabrication by YAHWEH as a scare tactic to set us on the right course when they return to earth. Your thoughts?
When it comes to negative or "hellish" near-death experiences (NDEs), I think it's important to approach these with a balanced and compassionate perspective. While most NDEs are overwhelmingly positive, we must acknowledge that a small percentage of individuals report experiences that are frightening or distressing. First, it's crucial to understand that negative NDEs are relatively rare. When they do occur, they manifest in diverse forms. Some people might feel a profound sense of isolation, encounter darkness, or even perceive hostile or frightening beings. Others may feel as though they are being punished or trapped in terrifying situations. The variety in these experiences suggests that there isn't a one-size-fits-all explanation, and each case must be examined in its unique context. Second, the interpretation of these experiences can be highly subjective. What someone perceives as a "hellish" NDE might reflect their inner fears, unresolved psychological issues, or personal beliefs. These experiences are often colored by the individual's own mindset and worldview. It's important to remember that the mind is powerful, and it can project fears and anxieties into a movie-like experience (for example: dreams). Third, despite the distressing nature of these NDEs, many people find that they lead to profound personal transformation. In fact, those who experience these kinds of NDEs often report significant positive changes in their lives afterward. They may reevaluate their priorities, adopt a more compassionate outlook, or seek deeper spiritual understanding. These experiences can serve as a catalyst for growth, prompting individuals to make meaningful changes in how they live their lives. Fourth, I want to emphasize that a negative NDE should not be viewed as a final judgment or a permanent state.These experiences are not indicative of eternal damnation or punishment. Instead, they can be seen as part of a broader, ongoing journey of consciousness. Many who have gone through such experiences come to view them as a wake-up call, an opportunity to reassess and redirect their lives in a more positive direction. Finally, it's worth considering that some negative NDEs may be influenced by psychological or physiological factors. Fear of death, unresolved trauma, or deep subconscious indoctrinated religious beliefs could contribute to the nature of the experience. While these factors don't diminish the reality of the experience for the person who goes through it, they do suggest that we should approach these accounts with an open mind and avoid jumping to conclusions about their meaning.
In John 5:21-25, there is a passage that says we will be judged not by the Father but by the Son. This is a very important distinction. The Son-Christ-is within every human being. It represents the universal true human self.
isn't hell having to live this life over and over again until you realise that you are making wrong decisions . Life only moves forward when you open your eyes and see the reality of your actions and try to correct the path you follow. Heven will come to you only if you attract it and the only way is love and compassion .
On what basis do you conclude there is a life review in the afterlife? Is there a study or a source? The presupposition in this worldview has nothing to do with hell or heaven. It is that we are part of the same soup of “God”. But God in name only. This God is not a monotheistic notion of God. A god with will. A god with power. A god of mercy. A god of punishment. You took all those attributes and only made a God of love. But on what basis? We only know the unseen based on what is revealed. The founders of this Law of One state they conversed with “Ra”. Who is Ra and how is that different than traditional belief in God? Bottom line, this does sound good. I had these same thoughts. But I really think it boils down to “do as thou wilt” as we are all God.
Logan it took a while but I came to the conclusion that if God is pure love and we are all part of God then we can only be love. And if you ever heard my testimony it would blow your mind.
I regret so many things that I did when I was younger. I see it now but they have since passed away and I one day I will have a chance to sincerely apologize to them and beg their forgiveness 😢
I know this is hard to accept because human empathy makes us want to believe in some kind of cosmic or karmic justice for people who act contrary to that innate sense of human empathy, but the fact is that there is no empirical evidence that any such justice exists. The universe doesn't care about anyone's morals or feelings. The best we can do as humans is create laws and societies that hold people responsible for acting contrary to innate human empathy.
This makes so much more sense. I'm still trying to purge the idea of hell from my mind. just the idea of people going to hell just for not believing hasd always bothered me. I wonder what else is in the bible people just accept without question ? I feel a lot. Sadly. What about things like being LGBT ? I'm gay but people always say it's a sin is that true ?
Have you seen my videos on hell? I think they would help you get over the fear of hell. And no, being gay is not a sin. To label it as a sin is to limit the vast potential of human connection and intimacy. The idea of sin is a man-made construct that serves to control and suppress natural human desires and expressions. True spiritual growth comes from embracing all aspects of ourselves and others with love, acceptance, and understanding.
IMO the controversy regarding homosexuality stems from a cultural misappropriation of the teachings of Paul in the book of Romans. In his day this was a source of revenue for many of the pagan religions, both male and female prostitution became a serious issue for the early Christians because if a pagan converted, it was incompatible with working as a pagan prostitute and also call oneself a Christian. Later these texts were used to condemn the practice of same sex in order to solidify church membership.
Society will tell homosexial and lesibian beings they are evil because they are not producing children for their slave factories as future generations of workers😮😮😮😮Peace to All 💘
How do you cope with the fact that billions and billions of sentient beings are tearing each other apart and eating each other? How would you integrate this into your understanding of being? This is something I can't rationalize away. A very difficult topic for me. We are connected. 👍
It depends on what you are focusing on. I would say that in some areas, we've experienced immense evolution. In other areas, not so much. The journey of evolution can sometimes feel like two steps forward one step back.
@@LoganBarone But why should we evolve from a state of imperfection, only to return to the Absolute that we should never have left? Why did the Absolute step out of itself to play this macabre game of becoming and perishing?
Here is my response to this comment: It is true that there is suffering and violence in the world, but it is important to remember that at the core of all beings is a shared essence of consciousness and love. While the actions of individuals may cause harm and suffering, it is ultimately a reflection of their own ignorance and misunderstanding of their true nature. In my understanding of being, I see that all sentient beings are interconnected and ultimately one with the Source of all existence. By recognizing the inherent divinity within each being, we can begin to see past their actions and behaviors and instead focus on the shared essence that unites us all. Therefore, while it may be difficult to witness the suffering and violence in the world, I cope with it by holding onto the understanding that at the core of all beings is a radiant and loving consciousness, waiting to be recognized and embraced. It is through this recognition of our shared essence that we can begin to heal and transform the world into a more peaceful and harmonious place.
Purifying fire that will cleanse the unrepentant sinner till his/her spirit reaches righteousness he/she has not managed to form during his/her earthly life. Suffering from resisting a sin/temptation a believer can experience during his earthly life is a constant, continual pain, and for an unrepentant sinner, such an experience may be an amplified, concentrated hell his/her spirit is expected to undergo during the afterlife.
U r right...karma works until rupture happens...just know...belief is not easy...and mostly cruel one in heaven not acceptable...if I have thr power I will rock the hearts of evil doers for gaining hell...they are harassing other souls and Illtreated others...I don't want them as God's child...the one precious thing to be god child is don't harming others peace of life and don't backing blind paths. Creator is one not many...If I die who are my saviour from get out of hell...I need one god only that one is sacred life taker to give rest of my soul...
What do you think about hellish NDE’s? There are a lot of good NDE’s but I’m curious as to what you think about those because you don’t believe in a hell.
its apokatastasis which is universal reconciliation which is what the early christian church taught. meaning the lake of fire is a place of purification and correction to restore one to ones true nature Godlike...
Just because you want the universe to have a built-in system of justice doesn't mean that it does. Feeling this need deeply doesn't make it so. Our strong intuitive feelings are often wrong. People created the concepts of "evil" and "justice", and they are very important but very subjective.
You can't square a 1 all loving god; 2 all just god ; guardian/advocate for his chosen people; 3 god who created reality as it exists and 4 transcendent perfection. that's 4 contradictory entities So they can't be describing it right. I love and forgive everyone, I punish the wicked, i give special treatment to my ingroup, AND i leave every one alone,
You need to stoically temper your mettle with the harshness of reality. Adam was born a hedonist (all babies are) He was punished with the adversarial force of the serpent. Adam is the first job. He was better off after leaving the garden of being coddled like a child in the twilight zone episode a nice place to visit. He now had a purpose in life Instead of chasing goals of fleeting happiness that only bring catharsis he had a system of using his problem solving machine mind to its potential and becoming a ripped chad like Marcus Aurelius
I used to struggle with this even when I witnessed and had Bible studies. In my heart I never shake off that this is complete BS! Yet totally know there are consequences, but more geared towards refining and pain comes with the learning. Like a baby keeps falling into it finally learns how to walk. That's where reincarnation comes in, honestly thinking "Hell" was used as a control tool. I think what Jesus taught is for you to bypass the fires of refinement and get on the expressway to the creator and who you are part of.
Your soul will send you to a certain realm in a certain place ''that for the sake of simplicity I won't name the location'' from that point your ''true self'' will judge you according to your actions and then as you go back towards the Earth you'll be drawn based on your vibration to a plain that resonates at said vibration. This plain could end up being a grosser plane ''a hell as it were'' or a subtler plane '' a heaven as most people call it. These planes are indeed physical to a certain extent, but they are a matter of a higher or lower vibration. You will stay on these plains for whatever is considered a ''lifetime'' there and then you either come back to this plane and see if you can do better or if you're enlightened enough you graduate to higher spheres only coming back as a teacher or Avatar once you evolve enough. I'm not going to be popular saying this but our evolution back to God isn't as straight forward and simple as most people would like to believe.
The Aramaic word LA-Ạ-LAM & the Heḅrew equivalent LE'O-LAM don't just mean: "forever" or "everlasting." They both also mean: "FOR AN AGE (age-long)," "for an era" & "for a lifetime." So don't press the English Translation; which may not be accurate.
I have a question, in Luke 16, the parable about the beggar and rich man, the rich man is tormented in Hades "in agony by fire". This parable was told by Jesus not the 3rd..5th century church, so Jesus did talk about the place of (everlasting ?) punishment at least once.
When it comes to negative or "hellish" near-death experiences (NDEs), I think it's important to approach these with a balanced and compassionate perspective. While most NDEs are overwhelmingly positive, we must acknowledge that a small percentage of individuals report experiences that are frightening or distressing. First, it's crucial to understand that negative NDEs are relatively rare. When they do occur, they manifest in diverse forms. Some people might feel a profound sense of isolation, encounter darkness, or even perceive hostile or frightening beings. Others may feel as though they are being punished or trapped in terrifying situations. The variety in these experiences suggests that there isn't a one-size-fits-all explanation, and each case must be examined in its unique context. Second, the interpretation of these experiences can be highly subjective. What someone perceives as a "hellish" NDE might reflect their inner fears, unresolved psychological issues, or personal beliefs. These experiences are often colored by the individual's own mindset and worldview. It's important to remember that the mind is powerful, and it can project fears and anxieties into a movie-like experience (for example: dreams). Third, despite the distressing nature of these NDEs, many people find that they lead to profound personal transformation. In fact, those who experience these kinds of NDEs often report significant positive changes in their lives afterward. They may reevaluate their priorities, adopt a more compassionate outlook, or seek deeper spiritual understanding. These experiences can serve as a catalyst for growth, prompting individuals to make meaningful changes in how they live their lives. Fourth, I want to emphasize that a negative NDE should not be viewed as a final judgment or a permanent state.These experiences are not indicative of eternal damnation or punishment. Instead, they can be seen as part of a broader, ongoing journey of consciousness. Many who have gone through such experiences come to view them as a wake-up call, an opportunity to reassess and redirect their lives in a more positive direction. Finally, it's worth considering that some negative NDEs may be influenced by psychological or physiological factors. Fear of death, unresolved trauma, or deep subconscious indoctrinated religious beliefs could contribute to the nature of the experience. While these factors don't diminish the reality of the experience for the person who goes through it, they do suggest that we should approach these accounts with an open mind and avoid jumping to conclusions about their meaning.
If God is everything and we are God experiencing itself. Does that mean God is judging himself for wrong doings? I don't think so. Humans have a need to judge. I think there is no Judgement only love. Everything just is. Karma comes when we can't forgive ourselves for being human and need to make amends for past actions.
and what about the theory that the archons use the life review to guilt trip you into comming back and feeding them what think about that one is the devil able to be that deceptive? and that the love is used as a drug basicaly.
In your "end-of-life-review" you will see the consequences, ALL of them, of ALL your actions....even some you thought were "good" have likely had some ill effects......in this COMPLETE accounting and witnessing, you will be ripped asunder at beholding it, then made whole again before moving on to either dissipate or return, whichever mode is operating when you enter fordado......good luck, malwinkle!...
Ever since the Ukrainian -Russian war I feel the shed blood of the innocents. Can the collective sin and evil action of many multiply and affect us all due to interconnectedness? The karmic burden must be incredible. Nearly a million dead and a willingness of world leaders to perpetuate this. What is your take?
I'm not Logan, and I understand you're asking for his input, but I've often thought the same as you lately. For me it is the African American experience going back through time that I carry in my soul (in various ways). And more recently, the Palestinian/Israeli conflicts; I've even felt myself trying to block it out or shield myself, as the emotional pain is great. I'm not sure we could function daily, if we carried the totality of our atrocities here in this space. But I do think we are all complicit, in some way, and held back from our growth, as a result. Just my thoughts/understanding, at this point, in my learning/evolution. This also leads to another topic of empaths (those who experience the physical and/or emotional experiences of others, in varying degrees). A book that shares the experience of empaths that I've read, that has been seared in my mind, is Parable of the Sowers by Octavia Butler. The book is futuristic fiction, but I believe empaths are among us today, and each of us may exhibit or operate as an empath, in varying degrees. Though, I realize, some human beings are definitely not empaths.
@@tkaeu thank you for your sharing and reaching out. The collective evil of world leaders is beyond my comprehension. They dress in uniforms, give propaganda speeches and seem bereft of the spiritual.
Yes, it absolutely affects all of us because we are all interconnected. One of the main things that starts to happen as we transcend the ego (sense of a separate self) and realize the True Self (Unity Consciousness) is we begin feeling the suffering of others. This is also why awakening is so important. As each one of us starts to awaken, it impacts the collective. As we shift from separation consciousness to unity consciousness, I believe there will be less suffering and more peace. Evil actions stem from separation consciousness.
So what you’re saying is that we keep coming back to this world every time we come back, we come back more wiser and smarter than the previous lifetime so every time we come back, we come back at a higher level
Firstly - souls who belong to bodily religions, such as Christianity, Islam, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu and so on do not go to heaven. Why? The founders of those religions began in the Copper Age, approximately 2500 years ago. Their first birth is after heaven on earth, the Golden and Silver Ages. The Copper Age is after the fall of "man", hence why religions and the worship of God commenced. Heaven on earth is in Bharat (India) where the pure vice-less all virtuous deities, ruled the globe, the reformed ones. These pure divine beings have been worshiped by most civilisations since their fall from purity. At the end of the Iron Age, which is now, these ancestor souls are destined to take their first birth in the Golden Age once again, and thus this cycle of the Ages repeats eternally every 5000 years. The soul has become impure by taking many births of indulging with the vices and so the power of the intellect has become weak. The intellect's primary role decides, discerns, discriminates, understands, processes and calculates. By understanding the soul, the law of karma and rebirth within a cycle of time - 90% of these discussions wouldn’t exist.
If you saying this,why doing good,why don't we all be bad?I didn't see bad human who is sick,didn't see any karma,didn't see any good on this world from 2019..
Human Consequences are a here thing-not a there thing! We all have a soul contract. We all came here to experience what we judge as evil or good, right or wrong. These labels are created by us. No one is hurt here in Spirit. However, God's justice is through reconciliation and restoration. I leave that to God's business and focus on my business. People who had an afterlife experience reported a hellish experience but came out of this experience before entering the light. There are NO eternal consequences. The Old and New Covenant scriptures knew nothing about a place of everlasting punishment from the perspective of ancient Israel. Greek methodology taught this ideology in Rome. This became the center doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church in the fourth century.
Hell doesn't make any sense. Worked that out when I was about 12 years old. It's a twisted sick way of thinking. For a start we don't all start with an even playing field. Some are emersed in crime and awful situations from no fault of their own. Of course some choose to be evil. They will feel all the pain they caused plus some when they pass. That will be their hell. They will punish themselves. One thing I do know from my experiences is that like it or not we are all in this together. Harm someone and you harm yourself.
I use to struggle with this immensely!! When I heard my ex husband passed away. He.was a horrible, abusive husband, father, provider, and my kids and I were dealt severe emotional trauma from this man. He wrecked havoc upon our lives. He was the epitome of evil. Upon his passing, he told my daughter, Im going to meet Jesus now. That disturbed me greatly, I have to admit. Thinking.of him walking Pearly Gates because of his act of asking for forgiveness, and God welcoming him home with open arms. While we were still here in this realm dealing with the aftermath of his cruelty. Didnt seem fair at all to me. Im just being honest here with my feelings. This is the main focal point that sent me on my spiritual journey of who God really is. Im slowly coming to deal with my shadow work, ridding the hate and anger and unforgiveness for this man. Its not easy to do, but I am.. so thank you Logan, for there are many of us out here that needs this amazing word, and the study your putting forth. Your healing hearts!! I cant thank you enough.
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing that. I first want to say I'm sorry that you had to experience all of that pain and trauma. Secondly, the idea that someone can spend their entire lives inflicting misery and suffering onto others and then have a “deathbed conversion” where they accept Jesus and get to step into the pearly gates of heaven free from the consequences of a lifetime of harmful actions toward others has honestly NEVER sat well with me. Deep down, it didn't feel right. I'm all for mercy, grace, and forgiveness. Those are crucial elements of the spiritual journey. However, there is also a universal law of sowing and reaping that is unavoidable that says each of us will face the repercussions of our actions at some point, in this life or the next. This is not negative or punishment… it’s restorative and necessary for our development. It produces correction, healing, understanding, and an expansion of consciousness, resulting in a more loving and compassionate existence of a being (spiritual transformation & evolution). To me, that model of reality makes the most sense, and it deeply resonates with my conscience.
I have been reading Your Souls Gift, The life you planned before you were born by Robert Schwartz. It's an amazing book and also gives a better understanding as to why these things happen. It has helped me alot in my own shadow work. I highly recommend it and his previous book Your Soul's Plan.
@@rebeccathompson5054I have too! Loved it!!
All right, I want tell you a few things that will make you feel better first off.
Congratulations on learning how to truly forgive this man and remember to forgive yourself for selling yourself out for someone who was never good enough for you. UNEQUALLY YOLKED
I really hope that your healing is so complete that the first red flag that shows up with any man you learn to run the other way instantly. No second chances, be very careful narcissists package themselves up like a very pretty gift 🎁
When we die, we get what we call a life review and we are shown how others felt by our bad deeds and every other horrible thing we did to hurt others.
You’re also shown the good things that you did.
So, for every thing that they did that was never resolved. They’re going to FEEL all the PAIN that YOU felt so when HE died and he had his life review, he probably fell to his knees, feeling your pain and his children’s pain, and now he has to live with that , and try to FORGIVE HIMSELF in heaven!!! Yes it’s true!!
WE JUDGE OURSELVES!!!!!
You should have tremendous emotional release knowing this truth, knowing that he literally fell on his face, crying and wailing over how much pain he put you and the family though to feel it through the actual hurt party.
Wow just think about that!!!
I think often when people die they’re actually earthbound spirits because they don’t want to face that life review or they have such a strong emotional attachment to earth and their belongings or whatever it was that would definitely make them earthbound.
I think that’s why a lot of people reincarnate because they keep trying to learn their life lesson and obviously he never did so. He probably had to reincarnate again and face the same challenges all over again there’s nothing new under the sun.
There is a MASSIVE element of unconditional love in heaven, where everyone that looks at you knows everything that you’ve ever done to anybody, as there are NO secrets in heaven. BUT THEY LOVE YOU AND ACCEPT YOU UNCONDITIONALLY, BUT ….. you actually have to forgive yourself and it’s very difficult to do that when you realize the depth of the hurt that you inflicted onto a humans earth life experience.
Everything is recorded in the Akashic records ( some call it the hall of records) EVERY THOUGHT WE HAVE, EVERY ACTION AND SOUL EXPRESSION EXPERIENCE and you have full access to those records when you are in the heavenly realms whether you’re really passed permanently into the realm or are a traveling Astro traveler passing through.
So you could just look at someone you don’t have to look anything up in a computer you don’t need to run a background check, you know everything good and bad they’ve ever done, so what happens when you die you take your full consciousness with you. Your personality goes with you. I know that seems horrible to think but they have to feel your pain , I think something like that is profound and would change it a soul instantly.
Apparently, there are healing centers in heaven, to actually heal somebody’s broken soul.
Now the reason that I know this is because there are many people that have the ability to do something called astral traveling. They can actually leave their meat suit body laying on the bed and exit with their spiritual body into the heavenly realms or anywhere else you want to go in the entire world and universe and Multiverse. We all have the ability to do this!!! The ones that do this all come back saying the same descriptions of what they’ve seen and experienced in the heavenly realms.
If you are a person that has ever experienced sleep paralysis, that is the final stage that you need to be in within your brainwave state to exit your physical body.
All you have to do is think about leaving with your mind and do not move your body, body asleep 💤 brain awake, but in almost sleep state, move your spirit body you will know it’s happening. You will feel the vibrations. You might sink down in the bed. You might get the sleep paralysis or not or loud ringing in the ears. You may even see an entity ( Hatman or something else) come inside your bedroom just send love frequency feelings towards it and it will go away. It’s like a gatekeeper.
Never fear…. Even Yeshua said fear not 365 times in the Bible.
If you wish to learn more about this, you can look up the work of Darius J Wright, the Robert Monroe Institute. Those are two really great places to start best of luck if you are interested in that.
I really hope that with what I’ve said, has given you a level of comfort that you’ve never experienced, knowing that he actually had to cry over what he did.
I was also married to a very cruel man who had potential for a lot of love, but he had a lot of problems and although I don’t think he really loved me, I loved him with all of my heart unconditionally, and he was such a monster of a man sometimes I think about his life review and what it will be like for him to feel what I felt with everything that he did to me which included calling the police on me on a huge lie and putting me in jail for three weeks, cleaning out the bank accounts, empty the house of all of our belongings, and moving to Aruba and filing for divorce, and never speaking to me again when I loved him with all of my heart for 23 years. I never saw this coming, yet his betrayals were many during our marriage, he only said sorry to me about 5 times. 💔
The pain of that abandonment trauma almost killed me so I’m expecting his life review is not going to go very well and I have comfort knowing that .
Much love to you, soul sister
@Golden-Haired-Sif Thank you for taking your.time out to share this with me. Yes, I have seen many testimonials on Darius's website and know.about the controlled OBE's. . They are phenomenal!! The testimonies are healing in themselves, I agree 100%. Thank you kindly
Loved this one brother. 👏🏼
You truly have a gift in communicating and teaching.
Then you, Ben! I really appreciate the feedback and encouragement❤️🙏
@LoganBarone // I just found you this morning and you without a doubt will be shared with all my friends and family who just don't get it. Thank you. You'll be getting millions of subscribers.
"Distrust all
in whom the urge to punish
is powerful".
Exactly.
@Populous1
The exact quote is "“But thus I counsel you, my friends: Mistrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful. They are people of a low sort and stock; the hangmen and the bloodhound look out of their faces. Mistrust all who talk much of their justice! Verily, their souls lack more than honey. And when they call themselves the good and the just, do not forget that they would be pharisees, if only they had-power.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
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A primary point he was aiming at is this:
For the further-evolved human, although limited in our moral development as we struggle to gradually overcome the limits and failings inherent to being a Great Ape,
the best of us understand this:
"Justice", in its' truest form, is an attempt to prevent and heal destructive imbalance.
By this, it is meant:
Any imbalance which separates people. from their social environment, ecosystem, and/or from themselves.
In this way, we can prevent mutual sabotage of each other's individual and collective potential;
potential for wellbeing, connection, and
maturation.
Justice, true justice, is an attempt to prevent and to heal ... ways of thinking and relating ... which separate us
from each other
and
from the larger, living, breathing whole of the natural world.
True justice is "restorative"; it is not destructive.
It's not an outlet for revenge.
Rather, it's a mechanism for healing which dissolves the need for any.
It's teaching someone how to hold their own self accountable (both: to others, and to their own self), by requiring them to personally and directly participate in discovery and restoration for whatever they have unjustly done that has sabotaged and stolen from the journey of others.
It is teaching people to "identify" WITH rather than "in contest against" others; so that they can understand how they were harming themselves when they were harming others.
We must teach judges, juries, politicians, and the voting public, ... that very same wisdom. So that they can participate in harmony with that most necessary project.
But for this, we must educate the general public into the equally necessary understanding that libertarian Free Will is not a real thing.
Because only then can we help an entire society mature into social and judicial reform ...
into a system which stops working against its own interests;
switching over to a system which seeks to understand and resolve the true causal mechanisms which cause crime,
in order to much more effectively prevent crime.
And also to provide effective rehabilitation and restoration for all.
That was the little motto at the front of an amazing book I read called Havoc In Its Third Year.
@Populous1 I think he means punishment for the sake of punishment is not a good motivation, rather punishment for the sake of learning and doing better is a good motivation.
@@ChrilimanI don’t think there should be punishment at all. Instead I think they should be love, education or whatever the wrongdoer needs. I know when my parents used to punish me as a kid thinking they were teaching me it never taught me anything other then I better not do this and have my parents find out, if anything it hardened me more. I think if our reason for being good is to win a reward or avoid a punishment it’s all for the wrong reasons. I love the idea that sin is an illness in need of healing not an evil in need of punishing and I believe in doing good because you genuinely care about others not to win a reward, avoid a punishment of appease God or anyone else. When I hear people say things like if there’s no hell and no punishment for sin why not just do whatever the heck you want I wanna say to them well because we care about our fellow humans ❤
Logan you’ve got it and communicate it so well. Thank you!
I’ve read and watched thousands of NDE testimonies and you have synthesized perfectly
“Spiritual truth needs no convincing “ as we intuitively know
Thank you! I really appreciate that. Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Your ''SERMONS'' always inspire me! Thank you.
Thank you! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
You explained this very well and good to see you have done your homework and given it logical thought.
Thank you! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
What you say so resonates with me. I have seen a lot of NDE on UA-cam. Most have mentioned they felt so much love and did have a life review.
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Love this explanation, I've seen a lot of these Nde and I feel the same, you be surprised what you learn from those who have already experienced the other side. Much love❤
Yes, I agree! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Thank you for this video. I am actively dying from cerebral systemic lupus at 48. I feel that I am a kind and loving person although at times life is hard, God Bless and love to you and everyone here, Amen.
Thanks for watching❤️🙏 I am deeply moved by your courage and strength in facing this challenging time. Remember, you are a spiritual being having a human experience, and your true essence is eternal and divine. Death is not the end but a continuation of the soul's journey. My thoughts and prayers are with you during this time of transition. You are a divine being of light, and your spirit will continue to shine brightly even beyond the physical realm. Blessings to you on your journey.
Thank you so much for the kindness 🙏
Look into Joe dispenza lots of people who do his meditations heal themselves
Thank you for bringing clarity and understanding to my evolution Logan. This is invaluable 😊
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
@@myraspringfield-reich2536 h was only talking about the external hell the Christian’s talk about. Hell is real you just don’t go there till you refuse to reincarnate then once your karma is burned up you go back to source.
The Totality, "The ALL", it's all God. There is only God. Nothing but God. The entire Universe is God's Dream. There is no good or evil. Only God IS. This Universe is God's imagining.
@@rupertbear9116 there is definitely good and evil there’s just two sides of the same coin. There’s also definitely consequences to our actions. If you don’t want to live another life hear on earth you’ll have to align with the light.
synonyms of God= MIND, The Absolute. All we see is "that". And we are "that" as well. God & "us" are indivisible. When i listen to NDEs, a recurring theme is that this world is not real; that what happens here is unreal. Make of it what you will...
@@rupertbear9116all I’m saying don’t deny good or evil yes it’s one but don’t spread suffering and gain negative karma if you want enlightenment cause it will definitely hinder it. Take this as you will. Love ya
@@MrPitts-zf4qr In general the waters are muddied with good and evil because of another aspect of this world, which is relativity. Now, in theory that is supposed to work for us, but as a species, we've yet to bring ourselves to simply adhere to the golden rule that is just another word for karma or physics in this world. What you put out you will receive. What you look for, you will find. For better or worse. So be conscious creators, knowing that your sense of 'self' should be no smaller than planet wide. If it is smaller than that, it's still just a small shoot emerging, so be patient and hang in there and grow it. If all is God and you fall into the little morass of good and evil (little intending to mean, 'doing what's best for you and ignoring the greater good in situations'), you're still not wrong, just not as right as you could be. So again, a shoot still emerging from a darker environ. Not really blameworthy, just a measure of capacity at the moment, and who wants to ever be judged by a moment, they don't get to pick? No one, so the only solution isn't to render all judgment null and void, it's to raise your deeds to the level that such judgment doesn't matter. But the world is not a world of opposites, it's a world of degrees. Darkness doesn't contest with the Light, it's merely it's lack or absence. Otherwise God is not God but a half measure of its opposite.
All is Brahman.
Very nice video man. Quite long is the first impression, but immediately noticing it's rather easy to get immersed in the topic and follow you along, thanks to your narration quality.
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I used to believe in the karma theory until I looked around and seen that I treat people really good and I never get it back My life is living hell as soon as I got my kids out of the house and could enjoy life without the stress of raising children My health went to hell. I've lost all belief in any good in this world. This is hell...
It's a loosh farm. Some people say it's a school but we're tricked into thinking there's progress in the same way crops need to be watered so they don't die before they're ready to be harvested. Hope that made sense. Detach and live life how you want to because none of this actually matters.
My young brother, you are a blessing to many with your videos! There are so many UA-cam channels that take something so pure & use it to their own purposes. I myself have had to follow those channels for a while, but finding some of their content contradictory to my own spiritual journey. It is so very beautiful to see our youth giving true thought to what & why they believe what they believe. To say “believe” with me I’d just trying to make a point to those that cherish that word, that definition of the word. To myself, I have come to a place where I perceive belief as something possessive (same as trust), which disconnects us from that which we shall call “God” here, in that it places walls in our own souls that need to be able to flow and allow for changes to be made in our perceptions as we continue each our own journey here in this realm. Anyway, I am blessed of you, my brother. Namaste!🙏
Thank you for sharing that! And thanks for watching❤️ Namaste🙏
I totally agree with you. Thanks for sharing.
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Logan, you have some great thoughts on the hell issue, as usual. As someone who has rejected the traditional notion of hell for 35 years (and of heaven for nearly 30 years), I agree completely that this is a shallow notion, and one that completely disregards true principles of justice, such as that the punishment should fit the crime. I wish many more would come to grasp this seemingly obvious conclusion. Well done.
As I have said in other comments, I am a Biblical conditionalist. I would generally urge people to turn from Christian traditionalism to a true, Biblical view of our nature and destiny.
To offer our answer to the above question, in contrast to the one you have given. The conditionalist's answer to the consequences of evil actions is simple: we believe that God graciously grants us life as a gift. He asks us then to use that life according to His standards, rules, and guidelines. If we refuse to do this and act in ways that He has proclaimed to be wicked and evil, He is under no obligation to give us another life after this one. We are free to seek life from another source, of course. Unfortunately for us, since God is the only true source of life, if we fail to satisfy Him that we deserve unending life, then our end will be death. The Bible's simple statement is, "The wages of sin is death." In a way we chose our own course: by rejecting the source of life, we embraced death. A conditionalist would say that this is consistent with reason and justice. The punishment fits the crime. While we do generally believe that God will raise the wicked back to life, if briefly, to put then on trial for their crimes, we ultimately believe that, whatever punishment He might enact prior to it, the ultimate end for the wicked is death and cessation of existence.
In conclusion, as I've said before, I would urge people who are realizing the bankrupt nature of fundamentalist views on heaven and hell, not to give up on Jesus Christ and the Bible, but to turn from the errors of traditionalism to a true, Biblical view of these things and become a conditionalist, Biblical heretic. It is a path I've been following for decades. It avoids throwing the baby, Jesus Christ, out with the bath water.
Thanks for your time, and for struggling over these issues.
Nathan
Love your video!!! Thank you!
Thank you! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Really enjoyed this!
My take - “Justice” is a human construct/need. I don’t believe it is a spiritual construct. If our souls have many journeys/incarnations in this and other realities, we are bound to experience all sides of existence, and sometimes that may be one of non-alignment or very low vibration. I DO believe that immediately after crossing over from a low vibration/maybe even “evil” existence, souls may undergo a slower assention back to their natural state/higher self. Keep in mind, part of our souls ALWAYS remains in the higher realm, and we are just a projection from that, so a permanent separation from that wouldn’t really make sense.
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Thank you so much, Logan, for all your insightful comments. As a fellow ex-fundamentalist Christian, it's great to hear someone else who's made the paradigm jump to unity consciousness! I have listened to so much good stuff from mystics and eastern gurus, but to hear these teachings expound in a way that fits into the teachings of Jesus and his mindset is rare. I was blown away when I first heard your podcasts on heaven and hell, because I was able to relate 100% to your experiences of leaving the 'church' after being enlightened by the true 'gospel'. I so much want my family, who are still on the fundamentalist path to see these truthsfor themselves, but I just hope that Jesus's own words will resonate with them enough to question the fallacies that the church continues to propagate. Much love to you, my brother and please keep sharing 🙏 ❤️
Wow! Thank you for sharing that. I really appreciate your kind words and encouragement! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
This is the first video I have seen of yours and it was incredibly inspiring... you see I was an atheist my whole life , or at lest I was up an till about 6 years ago. I have since concluded that there is a God, it was things like, mathematics seems too perfect, breakthroughs in the study of consciousness and most of all, Near Death Experiences as I have watched and read countless Interviews about them and it was always the same message, Love and Compassion for others, gratitude etc. and being an Aussie bloke that's not always easy. So I have been looking for guidance ever since I have been on this new journey. Nice work mate I'm really enjoying the channel, Cheers.
Wow! Thank you for sharing that. I’m glad what I’m saying resonates with you. Thanks for watching❤️🙏
This explanation makes more sense than the religious one of burning in hell forever and another reason being that it's totally devoid of fear and control but full of taking responsibility and bearing the consequences of our actions. Thanks so much for this information and explanation. Hope this could be demonstrated to the people so they would realise fully and stop harming themselves. ❤️🙏🌹
Very good video Logan🙏
Thank you! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Wow! Thanks Logan! I look forward to delving into this content with you!
I appreciate how articulate you are and able to touch on each aspect in a way that makes it easy to understand. We have little excuse to hang onto our indoctrinations, when the truth is so apparent.
I agree. Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Hey Logan me again, love your videos man! So well spoken and I truly like what you tell us. Wonderful way of saying things
Just discovered your channel. Loving your vids 🙏
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Wow! Love this! ❤
Thank you!!!!
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I gave up on religion and dogma 7 years ago. I got tired of being lied by those I was raised to trust the most.
Glad to hear you have move passed religion and dogmatic conditioning! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
You are my twin in spirit, all which you shared is all which i share, my rock still needs polishing, the brain has to learn and accept new fundamentals, training in progress, thank you for the share, be good.
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Nice video
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I study a book called A Course in Miracles scribed by a lady called Helen Shucman who was one of the head psychologists at Columbia university New York , she was athiest in belief at the start of scribing, the book took 7 years to write with the aid of her colleagues from 1967 , even though it uses names as Jesus and God , it emphasises it is a universal book and that it is just a supplement to other spiritual teachings and books
Yes, I’m very familiar with A Course in Miracles. It's awesome!
Yes I researched the NDEs and when I seen that commonly they had life reviews . That shot my awareness up . I want to view a good one
Yes! NDEs are fascinating, and many contain the “life review.” What an incredible learning experience that will be!
The concept of hell, sin and repentance stems from what humans believe, hate, want, and fear one of which is for their psychological security blanket/scapegoat to be worshipped alongside them so that it satisfies their overinflated self rightous religious ego and bias all without understanding what the Dunning-Kruger effect is, understanding analytical psychology, philosophy, determinism, free will, existentialism, therapy, enlightenment, etc.
I’ve had this question recently as well. And from all the NDE stories I’ve watched, mixed with hearing and reading all these teachers talking about unity consciousness and being one. I’ve come to about the same conclusion that the “punishment” is that fact that what you do to someone, you are doing to yourself.
Have you read the book, “Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East”?
This is touched on by one of the teachers written about in that book. I just finished the audio version, it is absolutely incredible!
I look forward to your content every week Logan. Thank you!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes, I've heard of that book but haven't read it yet. It's definitely on my reading list. I've heard many great things about it. I appreciate the feedback and encouragement! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
The answer is karma or the universal law of cause and effect. Eternal torment is a punishment entirely disproportionate to any crime. Karma is proportionate as it allows the individual time to evaluate one's actions based on the negative or positive effects experienced.
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My dear friend, thank you for your lovely show. I love stuff like this. You talk about heaven, it may be hell there is more than one level there are more than 10 levels there are more than 20 levels and this place. His.
Wear We learn I am not saying that I know everything but I am a near death experience where I saw I saw and yes, I walked with Jesus Christ. Andy is for real no doubts about it and powerful.
It wasn't until man looked to the stars and thought, "Why are we here?" Then comes society and control. Man didn't know what good and evil was until knowledge. Thus, the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Society and Control are needed to keep the society functioning well so that maximum number of humans can be benefitted.
And good and evil are not entirely objective or subjective.
The focus shifts from punishment to restoration and growth. The afterlife is seen as a realm for continued spiritual growth, learning, and development, helping souls to mature and reach their full potential. This journey may involve restorative justice, where individuals make amends and repair harm, as well as spiritual growth through purgation, re-education, and soul refinement. Souls may also undergo karmic resolution, resolving unfinished business and finding closure, leading to reconciliation with the Divine, oneself, and others. Through this process, souls are transformed, transmuting darkness into light, and evolving through spiritual stages. Ultimately, the purpose of life and the afterlife is not about avoiding punishment but about embracing growth, love, and unity, finding solace in the Divine embrace. This journey is not about reward or punishment but about becoming, unfolding like a lotus flower, petal by petal.
Yes! Thank you for sharing that. Thanks for watching❤️🙏
So grateful for stumbling across your teachings ..
Absolutely everything you say resonates with my soul. People live their karma every moment, depending on their consciousness of the present moment. If that makes sense..lol
Thank you so much!! ❤❤❤
Yes! Thank you! Thanks for watching❤️ Namaste🙏
Sometimes people abuse us, to teach us to say NO. They have chosen that role for our evolution.
This is how we learn to reject evil.
I’ve had this same question to reflect upon. People that are just horrible or do things we judge on this earthly plane as evil. I do think in a round about way, these type of behaviors do give us a chance to experience hard things and learn from them. Like boundaries or resilience, adaptability forgiveness compassion etc. the duality we live in gives us experiences to either constrict or expand from as we learn the hindsight from the experiences. But what happens to the people that do the harm? Maybe next time around they receive the same harm. To balance things. But I would hope not. If I can forgive a heinous crime put upon my child or self, then why would I want them to go through the same experience? I wouldn’t wish them harm in this life or another. I do see we need duality and hard experiences to grow from. But some life’s are easier or harder than others. So I like these types of videos… they make me think. :)
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Even before I started living from the heart when I used to have hatred for a lot of types of people (mainly abusive people), nothing in me ever wanted any one to suffer...FOREVER. It's so beyond unreasonable. I think every one no matter how much vengeance is in their heart, feels the same way, so how could God be so much more vengeful? Doesn't make sense. We all eventually come to understand how we hurt others. We can feel the emotion and some choose to truly feel it in the next life from what I understand. I don't think it's mandatory to learn lessons in the hardest possible way, but I can see how some people would choose that.
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I don t know to love and I treated people not good. I was diagnosed as Narcisisst.I have shame and feel guilt and I have horrible pain physical and in psychically.Had an hell expierience some month ago.
And a healer told me that I have no soul I would be an Annunaki.
I would do everything to feel love in my heart...
not feeling like a vampire who depends on the energy of others to feel alive.
I beg god to show my heart the love I would like to show to others...😢
The love you seek is already within you. It's actually the deepest truth of your being. Have you tried meditation?
I agree with everything you said. The only question I still have is the evolution of really evil and cruel people. Where are they on the soul’s evolution journey? Is this their first incarnation and don’t know any better? How else could they be so cruel if they have evolved from even one previous life.
They might have been through severe trauma in this life or a parallel life
The original meaning of the word sin is to miss the mark. The mark we are aiming for is unconditional love, the Christ, Unity Consciousness we truly are. However, as humans, we are conditioned to judge, believing there is right and wrong or good and bad. In that sense, sinning is a human condition based on duality consciousness. I also believe there is not a destination of hell. Heaven and hell are states of being we bring into our experience of life based on the choices we make. I believe that the choices we make in this lifetime determine the experience we have in the next aspect of eternal life.
That's a great perspective. Thanks for sharing and watching❤️🙏
Exactly , we never see near death experiences from killers….
This incarnation we live on earth, could conceivably be considered hell. Generally the reason for being a "bad" person is that it is in response to bad things happening in this incarnation. Nobody is born a bad person IMO.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree, no one is born bad or “sinful.” Thanks for watching❤️🙏
I always ask as first question. Who defines sin? If I wear mixed fabric clothes 2000 years ago I could be punished possibly by death. So, it depends on who is defining sin.
Thank you, fellow seeker. You speak definitively. I ask, respectfully, whereof do you speak? How do you know (italicized) that this existence is a 'school'---rather than a 'prison', for instance, or a series of images generated and recirculated, with variations, endlessly, by Mind of which we are a part? Or . . . . Back to the question. But what authority do you select one of any number of imaginable possibilities definitively?
suffering
Logan, I've been scratched in the supernatural several times. The first time it was deep and long. If there aren't evil spirits, do you have any opinion on what or who would do that? Plus I feel that I follow signs given me and then I miss the blessing intended. Then I start feeling inadequate. Now I think those supernatural signs were sinnister and cunning and masquerading as something else. Strange because when it all began I was believing in there's only one all that is and that love and intelligence would lead me to blessings. The completely opposite happened.
Do you have any good reading material to help start one journey? I have started thinking for myself and not simply believing something just because that is what we are told. Thanks
Yes, but I would recommend going for a while without reading books. Just meditate. When the time is right, you can go back to reading books after you have spent time unlearning and letting go of dogmatic conditioning. So, after all of that, some reading material I would recommend for the journey are the works of Alan Watts, Ken Wilber, Ram Dass, Yogananda, the Upanishads, A Course in Miracles, Law of One, Eckhart Tolle, and Rupert Spira.
@@LoganBarone Thanks
I believe the people who have had NDE's. They say no one judges you. But you will judge yourself and experiece/become painfully aware of your actions that brought intentional harm to others. This is where you are naturally forced to repent of all wrong doings. But then you are also shown the benefits of your kind actions.
Their is no place fir condemnation outside of the flesh only spiritusl cirrection of self by self. Hou have to purify yourself to ho to higher levels.
Good afternoon, Logan. If Christians actually took the time to research things for themselves, they would lea whole lot, and one thing they would definitely learn is that once the body has ceased to exist (death) and is returned to the dust (burial or cremation), then the spirit--the real part of us, moves on and never experiences any of the feelings that we had in our earthly bodies, because unlike the body, the spirit has no nerves, bones, skin or muscle mass. Therefore, it's impossible for anyone to burn, because after death, we return to spirit form, and spirits can't be destroyed. Science proves this, but oh yeah, that's right! Churches don't believe in science. 😂
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This is an Energy Universe. You get what you give. Jesus Taught Forgiveness. Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Peace through Forgiveness. This will stop the bad consequences coming. Hell is Here 😊❤
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We in these human bodies can never truly know or understand the effects on others our careless words or deeds can have. The life review is to reveal to us the ripple effects of our actions. So I imagine that the rapist, child molester, murderer will be devastated and deconstructed by this review actually feeling the pain, fear, anger and horror that they inflicted upon another and not allowed to integrate back into the higher realms until they have cleared their souls and truly repent and remember who and what they really are. In these bodies, with no memory of our divinity we can get lost but we are always loved ❤
No punishment in afterlife. Punishment or karma is here thru reincarnation. Actually it’s a learning lesson
I don’t view karma as “punishment.”
We have more than one life I'm on my last one before I go to heaven 😊
Hello, I am a well documented NDE survivor. I wonder still how we should come to terms with the hellish NDE's some have faced. Often in such cases they are given a second chance by Jesus or an angel who meets them there. If this hellscape they visit is not real, then I wonder if it's a false fabrication by YAHWEH as a scare tactic to set us on the right course when they return to earth. Your thoughts?
When it comes to negative or "hellish" near-death experiences (NDEs), I think it's important to approach these with a balanced and compassionate perspective. While most NDEs are overwhelmingly positive, we must acknowledge that a small percentage of individuals report experiences that are frightening or distressing.
First, it's crucial to understand that negative NDEs are relatively rare. When they do occur, they manifest in diverse forms. Some people might feel a profound sense of isolation, encounter darkness, or even perceive hostile or frightening beings. Others may feel as though they are being punished or trapped in terrifying situations. The variety in these experiences suggests that there isn't a one-size-fits-all explanation, and each case must be examined in its unique context.
Second, the interpretation of these experiences can be highly subjective. What someone perceives as a "hellish" NDE might reflect their inner fears, unresolved psychological issues, or personal beliefs. These experiences are often colored by the individual's own mindset and worldview. It's important to remember that the mind is powerful, and it can project fears and anxieties into a movie-like experience (for example: dreams).
Third, despite the distressing nature of these NDEs, many people find that they lead to profound personal transformation. In fact, those who experience these kinds of NDEs often report significant positive changes in their lives afterward. They may reevaluate their priorities, adopt a more compassionate outlook, or seek deeper spiritual understanding. These experiences can serve as a catalyst for growth, prompting individuals to make meaningful changes in how they live their lives.
Fourth, I want to emphasize that a negative NDE should not be viewed as a final judgment or a permanent state.These experiences are not indicative of eternal damnation or punishment. Instead, they can be seen as part of a broader, ongoing journey of consciousness. Many who have gone through such experiences come to view them as a wake-up call, an opportunity to reassess and redirect their lives in a more positive direction.
Finally, it's worth considering that some negative NDEs may be influenced by psychological or physiological factors. Fear of death, unresolved trauma, or deep subconscious indoctrinated religious beliefs could contribute to the nature of the experience. While these factors don't diminish the reality of the experience for the person who goes through it, they do suggest that we should approach these accounts with an open mind and avoid jumping to conclusions about their meaning.
@@LoganBaroneExcellent explanation!
Some NDEers HAVE been in hell and were taken out of there by Jesus. So what is that then?
In John 5:21-25, there is a passage that says we will be judged not by the Father but by the Son. This is a very important distinction. The Son-Christ-is within every human being. It represents the universal true human self.
Yes, the only one judging us is ourselves.
isn't hell having to live this life over and over again until you realise that you are making wrong decisions . Life only moves forward when you open your eyes and see the reality of your actions and try to correct the path you follow. Heven will come to you only if you attract it and the only way is love and compassion .
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Agree and as we grow we become more Happier and more Loving ❤💗💕💖💓
On what basis do you conclude there is a life review in the afterlife? Is there a study or a source?
The presupposition in this worldview has nothing to do with hell or heaven. It is that we are part of the same soup of “God”. But God in name only. This God is not a monotheistic notion of God. A god with will. A god with power. A god of mercy. A god of punishment. You took all those attributes and only made a God of love. But on what basis?
We only know the unseen based on what is revealed. The founders of this Law of One state they conversed with “Ra”. Who is Ra and how is that different than traditional belief in God?
Bottom line, this does sound good. I had these same thoughts. But I really think it boils down to “do as thou wilt” as we are all God.
Logan it took a while but I came to the conclusion that if God is pure love and we are all part of God then we can only be love. And if you ever heard my testimony it would blow your mind.
Yes, we are infinite love. That is the deepest truth of our being! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
Wise.
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I regret so many things that I did when I was younger. I see it now but they have since passed away and I one day I will have a chance to sincerely apologize to them and beg their forgiveness 😢
I know this is hard to accept because human empathy makes us want to believe in some kind of cosmic or karmic justice for people who act contrary to that innate sense of human empathy, but the fact is that there is no empirical evidence that any such justice exists. The universe doesn't care about anyone's morals or feelings. The best we can do as humans is create laws and societies that hold people responsible for acting contrary to innate human empathy.
Who is the measure of the innate?
@@robertulrich3964 I'm not sure what you're asking. "Innate" means something that occurs naturally in one. There is no "measure". It just is.
This makes so much more sense. I'm still trying to purge the idea of hell from my mind. just the idea of people going to hell just for not believing hasd always bothered me. I wonder what else is in the bible people just accept without question ? I feel a lot. Sadly. What about things like being LGBT ? I'm gay but people always say it's a sin is that true ?
Have you seen my videos on hell? I think they would help you get over the fear of hell. And no, being gay is not a sin. To label it as a sin is to limit the vast potential of human connection and intimacy. The idea of sin is a man-made construct that serves to control and suppress natural human desires and expressions. True spiritual growth comes from embracing all aspects of ourselves and others with love, acceptance, and understanding.
IMO the controversy regarding homosexuality stems from a cultural misappropriation of the teachings of Paul in the book of Romans. In his day this was a source of revenue for many of the pagan religions, both male and female prostitution became a serious issue for the early Christians because if a pagan converted, it was incompatible with working as a pagan prostitute and also call oneself a Christian. Later these texts were used to condemn the practice of same sex in order to solidify church membership.
Society will tell homosexial and lesibian beings they are evil because they are not producing children for their slave factories as future generations of workers😮😮😮😮Peace to All 💘
How do you cope with the fact that billions and billions of sentient beings are tearing each other apart and eating each other? How would you integrate this into your understanding of being? This is something I can't rationalize away. A very difficult topic for me. We are connected. 👍
It depends on what you are focusing on. I would say that in some areas, we've experienced immense evolution. In other areas, not so much. The journey of evolution can sometimes feel like two steps forward one step back.
@@LoganBarone But why should we evolve from a state of imperfection, only to return to the Absolute that we should never have left? Why did the Absolute step out of itself to play this macabre game of becoming and perishing?
Sorry, this response of mine was in response to your other question (your other comment), not this one.
Here is my response to this comment:
It is true that there is suffering and violence in the world, but it is important to remember that at the core of all beings is a shared essence of consciousness and love. While the actions of individuals may cause harm and suffering, it is ultimately a reflection of their own ignorance and misunderstanding of their true nature.
In my understanding of being, I see that all sentient beings are interconnected and ultimately one with the Source of all existence. By recognizing the inherent divinity within each being, we can begin to see past their actions and behaviors and instead focus on the shared essence that unites us all.
Therefore, while it may be difficult to witness the suffering and violence in the world, I cope with it by holding onto the understanding that at the core of all beings is a radiant and loving consciousness, waiting to be recognized and embraced. It is through this recognition of our shared essence that we can begin to heal and transform the world into a more peaceful and harmonious place.
Purifying fire that will cleanse the unrepentant sinner till his/her spirit reaches righteousness he/she has not managed to form during his/her earthly life. Suffering from resisting a sin/temptation a believer can experience during his earthly life is a constant, continual pain, and for an unrepentant sinner, such an experience may be an amplified, concentrated hell his/her spirit is expected to undergo during the afterlife.
EVIL IS STRICLY A HUMAN CONCEPT.
U r right...karma works until rupture happens...just know...belief is not easy...and mostly cruel one in heaven not acceptable...if I have thr power I will rock the hearts of evil doers for gaining hell...they are harassing other souls and Illtreated others...I don't want them as God's child...the one precious thing to be god child is don't harming others peace of life and don't backing blind paths. Creator is one not many...If I die who are my saviour from get out of hell...I need one god only that one is sacred life taker to give rest of my soul...
Bad behavior in the form of using others results in the antithesis of spiritual ascension.
What do you think about hellish NDE’s? There are a lot of good NDE’s but I’m curious as to what you think about those because you don’t believe in a hell.
In my opinion if there was no hell then Reincarnation would probably be a second option living a horrible lifestyle to make it up.
its apokatastasis which is universal reconciliation which is what the early christian church taught. meaning the lake of fire is a place of purification and correction to restore one to ones true nature Godlike...
The devil makes people you know what it's all his fault not humans fault.
Just because you want the universe to have a built-in system of justice doesn't mean that it does. Feeling this need deeply doesn't make it so. Our strong intuitive feelings are often wrong. People created the concepts of "evil" and "justice", and they are very important but very subjective.
You can't square a
1 all loving god; 2 all just god ; guardian/advocate for his chosen people; 3 god who created reality as it exists and 4 transcendent perfection.
that's 4 contradictory entities
So they can't be describing it right.
I love and forgive everyone, I punish the wicked, i give special treatment to my ingroup, AND i leave every one alone,
Are we going to listen to Yeshoua from the Kingdom of God or to man made ideas rooted in selfmade ideas?
Don't let your heart deceive you .....
Can you make on on babies who passed?
You need to stoically temper your mettle with the harshness of reality.
Adam was born a hedonist (all babies are)
He was punished with the adversarial force of the serpent.
Adam is the first job.
He was better off after leaving the garden of being coddled like a child in the twilight zone episode a nice place to visit.
He now had a purpose in life
Instead of chasing goals of fleeting happiness that only bring catharsis he had a system of using his problem solving machine mind to its potential and becoming a ripped chad like Marcus Aurelius
I used to struggle with this even when I witnessed and had Bible studies. In my heart I never shake off that this is complete BS! Yet totally know there are consequences, but more geared towards refining and pain comes with the learning. Like a baby keeps falling into it finally learns how to walk. That's where reincarnation comes in, honestly thinking "Hell" was used as a control tool. I think what Jesus taught is for you to bypass the fires of refinement and get on the expressway to the creator and who you are part of.
Yes, the doctrine of hell was created as a control mechanism and scare tactic. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! And thanks for watching❤️🙏
Your soul will send you to a certain realm in a certain place ''that for the sake of simplicity I won't name the location'' from that point your ''true self'' will judge you according to your actions and then as you go back towards the Earth you'll be drawn based on your vibration to a plain that resonates at said vibration. This plain could end up being a grosser plane ''a hell as it were'' or a subtler plane '' a heaven as most people call it. These planes are indeed physical to a certain extent, but they are a matter of a higher or lower vibration. You will stay on these plains for whatever is considered a ''lifetime'' there and then you either come back to this plane and see if you can do better or if you're enlightened enough you graduate to higher spheres only coming back as a teacher or Avatar once you evolve enough. I'm not going to be popular saying this but our evolution back to God isn't as straight forward and simple as most people would like to believe.
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The Aramaic word LA-Ạ-LAM & the Heḅrew equivalent LE'O-LAM don't just mean: "forever" or "everlasting." They both also mean: "FOR AN AGE (age-long)," "for an era" & "for a lifetime."
So don't press the English Translation; which may not be accurate.
I have a question, in Luke 16, the parable about the beggar and rich man, the rich man is tormented in Hades "in agony by fire". This parable was told by Jesus not the 3rd..5th century church, so Jesus did talk about the place of (everlasting ?) punishment at least once.
Majority of NDE's is indeed heavenly, but there's minority of hellish NDE's. How would you explain them?
When it comes to negative or "hellish" near-death experiences (NDEs), I think it's important to approach these with a balanced and compassionate perspective. While most NDEs are overwhelmingly positive, we must acknowledge that a small percentage of individuals report experiences that are frightening or distressing.
First, it's crucial to understand that negative NDEs are relatively rare. When they do occur, they manifest in diverse forms. Some people might feel a profound sense of isolation, encounter darkness, or even perceive hostile or frightening beings. Others may feel as though they are being punished or trapped in terrifying situations. The variety in these experiences suggests that there isn't a one-size-fits-all explanation, and each case must be examined in its unique context.
Second, the interpretation of these experiences can be highly subjective. What someone perceives as a "hellish" NDE might reflect their inner fears, unresolved psychological issues, or personal beliefs. These experiences are often colored by the individual's own mindset and worldview. It's important to remember that the mind is powerful, and it can project fears and anxieties into a movie-like experience (for example: dreams).
Third, despite the distressing nature of these NDEs, many people find that they lead to profound personal transformation. In fact, those who experience these kinds of NDEs often report significant positive changes in their lives afterward. They may reevaluate their priorities, adopt a more compassionate outlook, or seek deeper spiritual understanding. These experiences can serve as a catalyst for growth, prompting individuals to make meaningful changes in how they live their lives.
Fourth, I want to emphasize that a negative NDE should not be viewed as a final judgment or a permanent state.These experiences are not indicative of eternal damnation or punishment. Instead, they can be seen as part of a broader, ongoing journey of consciousness. Many who have gone through such experiences come to view them as a wake-up call, an opportunity to reassess and redirect their lives in a more positive direction.
Finally, it's worth considering that some negative NDEs may be influenced by psychological or physiological factors. Fear of death, unresolved trauma, or deep subconscious indoctrinated religious beliefs could contribute to the nature of the experience. While these factors don't diminish the reality of the experience for the person who goes through it, they do suggest that we should approach these accounts with an open mind and avoid jumping to conclusions about their meaning.
Hell, that sounds more like a control system!!
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What do you think is the end of the game? Is there an "end", or we are going to reincarnate ever and ever?
God's waiting with patience to rescue souls meaning soul have a chance to know truth
If God is everything and we are God experiencing itself. Does that mean God is judging himself for wrong doings? I don't think so. Humans have a need to judge. I think there is no Judgement only love. Everything just is. Karma comes when we can't forgive ourselves for being human and need to make amends for past actions.
So what you're saying is Gehenna is an actual smoldering garbage dump outside of old Jerusalem. Nice!
Have you watched my videos on hell?
@@LoganBarone Not yet, but I will.
and what about the theory that the archons use the life review to guilt trip you into comming back and feeding them what think about that one is the devil able to be that deceptive? and that the love is used as a drug basicaly.
In your "end-of-life-review" you will see the consequences, ALL of them, of ALL your actions....even some you thought were "good" have likely had some ill effects......in this COMPLETE accounting and witnessing, you will be ripped asunder at beholding it, then made whole again before moving on to either dissipate or return, whichever mode is operating when you enter fordado......good luck, malwinkle!...
Ever since the Ukrainian -Russian war I feel the shed blood of the innocents. Can the collective sin and evil action of many multiply and affect us all due to interconnectedness? The karmic burden must be incredible. Nearly a million dead and a willingness of world leaders to perpetuate this. What is your take?
I'm not Logan, and I understand you're asking for his input, but I've often thought the same as you lately.
For me it is the African American experience going back through time that I carry in my soul (in various ways). And more recently, the Palestinian/Israeli conflicts; I've even felt myself trying to block it out or shield myself, as the emotional pain is great.
I'm not sure we could function daily, if we carried the totality of our atrocities here in this space. But I do think we are all complicit, in some way, and held back from our growth, as a result. Just my thoughts/understanding, at this point, in my learning/evolution.
This also leads to another topic of empaths (those who experience the physical and/or emotional experiences of others, in varying degrees). A book that shares the experience of empaths that I've read, that has been seared in my mind, is Parable of the Sowers by Octavia Butler. The book is futuristic fiction, but I believe empaths are among us today, and each of us may exhibit or operate as an empath, in varying degrees. Though, I realize, some human beings are definitely not empaths.
@@tkaeu thank you for your sharing and reaching out. The collective evil of world leaders is beyond my comprehension. They dress in uniforms, give propaganda speeches and seem bereft of the spiritual.
Yes, it absolutely affects all of us because we are all interconnected. One of the main things that starts to happen as we transcend the ego (sense of a separate self) and realize the True Self (Unity Consciousness) is we begin feeling the suffering of others.
This is also why awakening is so important. As each one of us starts to awaken, it impacts the collective. As we shift from separation consciousness to unity consciousness, I believe there will be less suffering and more peace. Evil actions stem from separation consciousness.
So what you’re saying is that we keep coming back to this world every time we come back, we come back more wiser and smarter than the previous lifetime so every time we come back, we come back at a higher level
Firstly - souls who belong to bodily religions, such as Christianity, Islam, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu and so on do not go to heaven. Why? The founders of those religions began in the Copper Age, approximately 2500 years ago. Their first birth is after heaven on earth, the Golden and Silver Ages. The Copper Age is after the fall of "man", hence why religions and the worship of God commenced. Heaven on earth is in Bharat (India) where the pure vice-less all virtuous deities, ruled the globe, the reformed ones. These pure divine beings have been worshiped by most civilisations since their fall from purity. At the end of the Iron Age, which is now, these ancestor souls are destined to take their first birth in the Golden Age once again, and thus this cycle of the Ages repeats eternally every 5000 years. The soul has become impure by taking many births of indulging with the vices and so the power of the intellect has become weak. The intellect's primary role decides, discerns, discriminates, understands, processes and calculates.
By understanding the soul, the law of karma and rebirth within a cycle of time - 90% of these discussions wouldn’t exist.
What about The Bible and book life and morals
What is the consequences ? There may be no consequences. Why does there need to be a consequence ?
I know a guy who uses the Hebrew pictographs to interpret scripture. Says the English translations are so so wrong
Yes, the English translations are often inaccurate.
Hell is beneath volcanoes and inside them inside the earth
If you saying this,why doing good,why don't we all be bad?I didn't see bad human who is sick,didn't see any karma,didn't see any good on this world from 2019..
Human Consequences are a here thing-not a there thing! We all have a soul contract. We all came here to experience what we judge as evil or good, right or wrong. These labels are created by us. No one is hurt here in Spirit. However, God's justice is through reconciliation and restoration. I leave that to God's business and focus on my business. People who had an afterlife experience reported a hellish experience but came out of this experience before entering the light. There are NO eternal consequences. The Old and New Covenant scriptures knew nothing about a place of everlasting punishment from the perspective of ancient Israel. Greek methodology taught this ideology in Rome. This became the center doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church in the fourth century.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! And thanks for watching❤️🙏
Hell doesn't make any sense. Worked that out when I was about 12 years old. It's a twisted sick way of thinking. For a start we don't all start with an even playing field. Some are emersed in crime and awful situations from no fault of their own. Of course some choose to be evil. They will feel all the pain they caused plus some when they pass. That will be their hell. They will punish themselves. One thing I do know from my experiences is that like it or not we are all in this together. Harm someone and you harm yourself.
I've heard someone say, “We are punished by our sins, not for them.” Thanks for watching❤️🙏