So to clear up some confusion. This a dream scenario of the Axis victory based on the plans the Axis had, not an accurate representation. I added a story to make these plans seem more real, but it wasn't meant to be all that realistic.
@@soulplexis no i dont think you understood the comment. rome was a mediterenean based empire hugging mostly its coast, there were only a few exeptions like england and nothern france that doesnt border the mediterenean. japan here is hugging the pacific and there a few exeptions of india and east turkestan
Yeah a far more realistic scenario would be that Japan would stop at China and just help Italy in the African front while they solidify their control of china maybe they could try to go for British raj after the British lost their empires but in the end the realistic scenario would be that Japan would just conquer China and everything east of British raj like laid and Vietnam but anything more that’s too far of a stretch Japan's chance at victory is none They never could have realistically won unless Hitler and Japan tag teamed Russia and America just did not care And if Britain was completely incompetent Basically, they would need a miracle in order to win
Why though geograpical genius as you can see almost all of the land got occupied is part from Asia not just geography but genetically also if we base to Thailand, Philippines,singapore,Brunei,Cambodia,Vietnam is no doubt that they have Chinese blooded majority.
@@fbn7075 the reason southeast asian have love/hate relationship with japan is because of genocide. Lot of em. To make this alt history work japan must not commit genocide, and southeast asian will be pretty semi-loyal to japan as they are liberator
It'd be possible, but you'd have to pass through several choke holds that could've been possible had they not known of the invasion of Tibet. It'd take months of espionage before it would be possible to cut communication between Tibet and other countries, however unlikely, but possible.
Drummer, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say? In what way is an emu racist? Not to mention Gay Marriage only became legal last year, (2017). I am not entirely sure how any of this is relevant though?
DA Group Education Italy was not National Socialist it was fascist (national socialism is racist fascism is not) and Japan was controlled by the military and the emperor was just a puppet they were not fascist
There was one primary ingredient missing for japan to be considered properly fascist; the lack of a charismatic leader. The closest japan came to fascism would be in the taisei yokusankai period, 1940-1945. Also, unity wasn‘t exactly great as the government was unable to force complete cooperation between the navy and the army, and constantly fell victim to low-level autonomy in the army. Plus fascism is usually reliant on "restoring" a lost national greatness, which obviously wasn't the case with japan given that it was a new colonial power. Japan during the later years was a military dictatorship with certain formalities still operating as a facade.
They were ran virtually through a militaristic-influenced government with a monarch as a figurehead, since the whole February 26th incident in 1936 happened which gave the military heads more power over Japanese society, nationalizing if not dictating what's acceptable and what's not. There's a scene in Letters from Iwo Jima that shows a Japanese kempetaii Reprimanding a Japanese lady for not having her Japanese flag up. So yeah, pretty fascist
Here’s an idea for you, how about a split allied victory. For instance if Britain fell in 41 but the Americans (being neutral at the time) simply inherited the majority of the British empire and claimed it as a vast protectorate from the axis. I imagine US statehood for some dominions would be a good insurance policy..
Communist Hukbalahap and American Ussafe preparing for endless ambush to the Japanese in the rest of the Philippine continent: *Loads Garand with ideological intent*
@@balkaba3927 Yeah japan holding that much of China alone would be impossible but if they somehow did hold that big of an empire they probably would have won
Japan: *goes over the Himalayas without an issue* Literally everyone: “What? Do they have helium in their tires or some shit?” Also literally everyone: “What in the hot crispy Kentucky-Fried fuck”
I'm sorry, but there's no way in hell Japan or the Axis in general would be able to invade and occupy the mainland United States. For one they would have to cross an entire ocean to do it, which would make supplying any army extremely difficult, and they would have to deal with the US navy, which would have an advantage due to being on the defensive. Even if we just say they magically manage to land on the United States, fighting will be impossible. They can win battles, and maybe even hyptothetically nuke some cities, but the insugrgency would be impossible to deal with. The Axis would have to deal with a MASSIVE area of land, which covers deserts, forests, mountains and canyons. Aswell as a disloyal, rebellious and armed population. Any WWII alternate history timeline that has the mainland United States occupied is ridiculous and unfeasable. On top of that, Japan had no interest in invading the mainland United States, infact they knew it would be an impossible task. Same would also go for India, it would be impossible to rule such a highly populated, varied area directly. If anything it would make more sense for Japan to encourage and arm local rebels.
You make some good points. This wasn't supposed to be an accurate alternate history. This was a "dream scenario" for the Axis' plans for the world. This was all their plan, I just added a story to it. I will clear that up in part 3.
+DA Group Education Even if that's the case, the Axis had no intention nor plans to invade America. If anything they wanted them out of the war with a white peace.
In reality, you are right. The Axis in whole wouldn't invade America, but part of the government wanted to, war plans were made, and America added to the GEACPS Land Disposal plan. I wanted to add the Americas into this series and this was the most accurate way to do it.
+Vlad Kovtun You're under the assumption that the Axis can just win some battles and as such win the war, that's not how it works, look at Vietnam. The United States is MASSIVE, it's the 4th largest country in the world and probably has the most varied terrain of any country in the world. The population would be extremely disloyal due to a 200 year old tradition of democracy and would be heavily armed to the teeth. Even if they magically manage to destroy the US navy, the US army and get enough supplies to transport massive armies across an entire ocean, they'll never win. The Americans would be willing to fight to the last man, the Axis would not, it's simple as that.
@@fayesshusband British Empore is the largest empire in history. Mongol Empire was the largest continuous land Empire (basically territory that was all connected to eachother).
Great video and a really good attempt at an alt history story, Although many of the reasoning and details for why this happened or didn't happened should be explained to better elaborate why you think this would've been likley. And it should be stated what the actual fact was in our timeline and why this alternate timeline is possible or probable if certain factors clicked into place. Such an example would be... Explaining that the Japanese military apparatus was split into two camps; Invading into china or invading through the European held South East Asian islands (explaining this point defiantly helps the argument for those who don't know). In our current timeline, japan did invade into China via Manchu (Manchukuo). However they pretty much stopped at Manchukuo and most of the coastal territory. However in our timeline, they decided to invade the islands and to this end needed to capture the Philippines which was currently owned by the United States (as a naval blockade from here would cut all supplies going in and out). This is doubly important as a supply route through the heavily jungle and mountainous South East Asia would've been at best heavily bottle necked and at worst unable to supply adequate supplies.
If you look back at my older videos, I don't do alternate history. This series was for fun as I only expected 50 or so views, but this ended up my most popular thing ever and now I'm stuck with my lazily written video. :)
The Japanese did as they did because they had the element of surprise working for them, plus the US provided most of their war-making materials, when this stopped they had to have a new source especially for oil and iron. The islands to their south provided this, though unwillingly!
Wunderwaffe doesn't actually means the A-bomb but any research ahead of their enemies time like jet fighters or assault rifles. It translates to wonder weapon
i understand this is basically supposed to be a story time thing. i can understand japan taking care of a lot of Asia (so long as they didn't anger the United States. that was their biggest... BIGGEST, mistake). as soon as you talked about them taking over main land America, all realism went out of the window. the main reason japan lost in the first place was because of pearl harbor. America was pissed to put it mildly. the reason the battle of midway alone was such a crushing blow to the Japanese, was because they lost the bulk of their naval fleet. all four carriers of the fleet were lost in a single battle. carriers were the bulk of naval forces. without them, defeat was inevitable. add to that, Americas industrial might. for every ship lost, America could produce 2 more. after the battle of the coral sea, a severely damaged Yorktown limped into dry dock. was was repaired and made battle ready in 3 days and sent off to fight at Midway with the USS Hornet and USS Enterprise. for every ship the Japanese lost, they couldn't replace it. the American war machine alone was enough to not just hold back japan, but push back as well. whilst we did that, we also helped the allies push back Germany. as for Italy... well they weren't much of a threat to begin with. after pearl harbor, Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, who planned the attack on Pearl Harbor, would reportedly write in his diary, “I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". in which they did. they did awaken a beast, and our resolve was nuclear. he would also go on to state that, "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". that is more troops, supplies and vehicles they simply couldn't supply, they couldn't afford to loose. there is no scenario in which japan would have been victorious over the united states, even with Germany's help. again Italy, basically useless. sorry for any Italians reading this. i believe it was Stalin who stated that "The three things that won WWII were British brains, American production, and Russian bodies". also with germany's "wunderwaffe", without Einstein and his team, they never would have got the nuke before the US. Einstein fled Germany so Hitler couldn't get his secret. the US would have got the bomb first. if not for an offensive strike, a defensive strike against the Germans or Japanese. the only way for an Axis victory, is to keep the US out of the war at all costs. they might defeat the Russians... MIGHT. but both Germany and Japans military power would be severely depleted by that point. they wouldn't have the man power to take on another giant like the US. let alone hold the territories they gained. japan declaring war on us was their worst mistake. Germany could have said "hey um buddy... im not getting in that mess. you fucked up big time". and not allied with japan. then Germany might have been a bit better off... not much, but a bit.
You gave me an inspiration to try this on Hearts of Iron II Wish me luck! And by the way, good video :) Japan is one of my favorite nations, you should try this with China too, I love Asia.
Just saying, the Japanese invasion of Australia is practically impossible because we could use ( and would ) use attacks in the outback, where none of the Japanese Military has experience in.
Nice video but one thing i believe you should know is that a prominent Indian freedom fighter by the name of Subhas Chandra Bose had a deal with Imperial Japan that the Japanese would help India gain independence and they started the Azad Hind Fauj or Indian National Army in Singapore. Bose knew that the Japanese would try to annex India like they did the Dutch East Indies, so he made a plan to stop a Japanese invasion if one was attempted.
Japan never had intentions on taking over Australia and don’t forget the Aussies beat the Japanese at the Kokoda trail. The Japanese were also good at fighting in tropical, more hilly and wetter climates, so the Japanese would have actually struggled to fight mainland Australia the further down they go (assuming they followed the east coast) except maybe for the North and north Queensland. Also the US would’ve stepped in to defend at the very least Australia and then New Zealand. The Japanese new attacking Australia is a bad idea because it would cost too much effort and likely wouldn’t do them any good.
the japanese actually did want to take australia, mainly just to stop them from being of use to the USA but also, in their words, "free the australian people from the shackles of the british empire" (aka they wouldve just enslaved and murdered like half of us).
@@giantcrayfish2866 Only one faction in the Imperial Navy seriously wanted to invade Australia, In an Imperial Headquarters Diary it said "so much gibberish" when told about an invasion of Australia, and the army had dismissed the idea as nothing but nonsense (Seeing as their supply lines were already overstreached, and they would've had to taken troops out of China and the Soviet border to fight in Australia). The Japanese favored a policy of cutting off Australia's supply lines and forcing it into submission in a seperate peace.
I feel like at the very least Australian wouldn’t be directly annexed by Japan, in all likelihood they’d probably make a friendly austrasian state (New Zealand and Australia combined into one state dependent on Japan)
I haven't watched the associated Reich victory series, but I read a fascinating book several years ago that was I believe a yearly review out of topics for the US War College, pre-draft actually. A fascinating article in that volume looked at a systemic weakness of the Nazis and Imperial Japanese organizations. Logistics and supply were seen as backwaters, and third rate officers considered to have no future were relegated to this. Note we are talking the Nazis, who were promoting party members at roughly twice the speed of non-party officers. I've haven't seen the numbers for the Polish campaign, but after France the difference was marked, and this finally lead to the promotion of the non-entity Field Marshall Ernst Busch, the sycophant promoted to the command of Army Group Center, and the biggest disaster suffered by the Nazis in WW2 (Operation Bagration, or the Destruction of Army Group Center 1944). As my own aside, the Nazis had at least the tradition of the Imperial German Army to build on, which was were very logistically oriented. In fact the victory in France in 1940 made the Nazis and the Wehrmacht as overconfident as the Japanese. The reason the French Campaign had two periods of German offensive, was that the Wehrmacht was actually at its logistical limits right around Dunkirk. Their armored units needed to pause to regroup for maintenance and logistically, letting the bulk of the British troops escape. The Japanese on the other hand had no such tradition, they hadn't preceived the need since the Sino-Japanese and Russo-Japanese wars stressed short lightning fast conflicts. Yamamoto was justifiably concerned about this issue (his famous 6 months remark about how long he could guarantee victory), as there is probably nothing as resource intensive as Naval Aviation. In the British Army the Boer War had caused massive changes, and in the US in the interwar period the tradition begun after the Civil War (begun so officers didn't have local loyalties) lead to most US Army officers rotated to remote posts where logistics were a struggle due to US peacetime budgets. So while they made plenty of their own mistakes, logistics instead were something good the US and Imperial Britian were already painfully, if not prepared for, properly cautious. Besides the absurd idea of supply over the Himalayas, the author of this video ignores how the Imperial Japanese were fairing little better than the Nazis when it came to occupation policies. The Japanese were welcomed in many "colonies" (i.e. European conquered and exploited areas) and while welcomed initially, the areas discovered they had only switched masters, and that the Japanese were as exploitive but even more brutal than the European powers of 1940. Considering how the Dutch were hard in the East Indies, that is an impressive accomplishment. So you are stating that a brutal regime is going to do a total charge in its logistics out of thin air, and totally change its strategic and operational assumptions, while becoming the most enlightened colonial power of the time. When until 1944 the Japanese army and navy refused to even consider commonality of parts on aircaft engines like tubing (their aviation divisions were kept so totally seperate that visiting Nazis officials had to wait at the army side of a factory until they army officers turned them over via locked doors to the naval officers). That's like asking the Nazis to administer conquered areas in a way to win hearts and minds. After WW2 US Intelligence found a cautiously stated report in the Wehrmacht reports out of Russia, stating that many officers had found the civilian populations welcoming them (we are talking the Ukraine, Crimea, and the Baltic states that were brutally repressed by Stalin, google "The Great Terror USSR"). They noted that after the SS Special Operations Groups (Einsatzgruppen) moved in, the areas no longer could be relied on to draw supplies from and I stead required the diversion of troops for anti-partisan operations. The Nazis couldn't do it, even when Speer appealed for the SS to stop killing his workers. The Japanese military, especially the army, were no more capable of that change in the time being fantasized about.
THANK YOU! This video is MUCH better than the AltHistory version of this where the narrator says condescendingly “there’s NO way that Japan could have possibly won” in a video about if they had won smh.
At 2:29 you said, “broke Malaysia into two” and kingdom of Malaya is formed on the peninsular. You can’t break what something that hasn’t formed. Malaya (peninsular Malaysia) only became Malaysia in 1963 when Malaya, Singapore and British Borneo colonies (Sarawak and Sabah) merged. Cool alternate history though apart from the error.
Personally I think Afghanistan wouldn’t have been invade and the Americas wouldn’t have been invaded either. Hawaii would have been taken and the islands like Fiji, New Caledonia, and Polynesia would also have been taken. Madagascar probably would have been taken as well due to the Japanese wanting it as a submarine base and the other islands in the Indian ocean.
Well that's assuming they win every engagement, and they can just grab whatever they want, and that the local population of the countries they anxed wouldn't rebel.
I really think this is important because if it’s based on what Japanese leader Hirohito thought would be the perfect future. It’s like having a fun experiment and I think it’s very valid my think we should run these for each of our countries - including United States 🇺🇸 - right now I’d like to see what one can interpolate is Trump’s vision (for example).
Why people is hating on this. This is just an alternate history. Just watch another video if you didn't like this. This video is just for fun it is not real.
I loved how you highlighted the Philippines, during those they can’t invade immidiately or else all of their troops will be put in missery. I hope there an alternate history whereby the US paid the USAFE in full as promised by roosevelt. That would be great! rather than changing the promises after the war through congress.
Taking ANY part of the Americas would have been MUCH harder than Asia. Japan at the time was essentially the only Asian country with any worthwhile industrial capacity to utitilize. Latin America, Canada, and ESPECIALLY the US had strong industrial capabilities and it would be a stretch to think Japan could take any part of the Americas and it would be incredulous to think they could occupy any part of the continental United States. Although the Nazi nuke might be the one thing that makes this SLIGHTLY more realistic although I feel like an American surrender and retreat back into isolationism is more likely than an actual occupation by Germany and Japan-especially since the US was working on nuclear weapons themselves and actually got them by the end of WWII OTL.
Japan would ve needed amphibious assaults to defeat India. It was impossible to strike over the Himalaya at this time, there was no infastructure to support large armies. The route through Burma was also very difficult, Japan even had to build their own railroad there.
There's no way Japan would have chosen the Southern Plan if they successfully dominated China. The Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy were basically separate militaries vying for power over Japan's policies and direction. Historically, the IJA lost some of their prestige and influence because of their lack of progress in China and their failures fighting the Soviets at Khalkin Gol, so the IJN got to push their Southern Plan to take SEA and face the Western Allies. The IJA wanted the Northern Plan, which was to push into Soviet territory to take Siberia and the rest of Manchuria, and further push west. There was also the possibility that if the IJA continued to make sweeping victories, the IJN may have revolted in some fashion, or attempted to sabotage the IJA. The animosity between the two factions was that strong.
Um Da Group Education I think you forgot that most of the countries that were annexed by the Japanese will fight tooth and Nail for their countries land and territories and How does Japan Have so many troops to Invade let alone successfully control most of them
You need to remember that germany failed to destroy the british air force and failed to invade britain. Even if germany waited to invade the ussr and defeated the uk, the ussr would probaly strike germany
Loved the video But in a realistic situation Japan and the axis if they where able to invade the US and Canada would face strong resistance when invading and after
Voraciousgnu I doubt they could even invade weaker nations like Argentina and Brazil. It would be a logistical nightmare. They would outnumbered in every front In a completely foreign land and morale would definitely not be in their side. Also if they sent there troops to the America’s Asia and Europe would just explode in revolts.
Even in their wildest dreams Japanese imperialists never considered annexing Canada and the US, I suppose. They’d be content if they could take Hawaii.
So to clear up some confusion. This a dream scenario of the Axis victory based on the plans the Axis had, not an accurate representation. I added a story to make these plans seem more real, but it wasn't meant to be all that realistic.
DA Group Education hence the A bombs?
DA Group Education I know its a dream scenario but even dreams have some reality
DA Group Education oh ok nvm then
DA Group Education you forgot Indian fought along with Japanese in India
Realistically speaking Germany and Japan could never invade America. Glad you cleared that up.
Are you sure this wasnt you HoI 4 run as Japan?
I'm not good enough at HoI4 to do this.
DA Group Education im sorry for you
@@DAGroupEducation lol just get bicycle batallions
@@EeliL artillery only should do it
@@AllOfMyWat *_-A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y !!!!!!!!!-_*
Roman Empire: **eats the Mediterranean sea**
Japanese Empire: **eats the Pacific Ocean**
Lol
*_C O N S O O M_*
*K Ü N S Ü M*
* K Ū N Ş Ó Ú M *
@@indonesianmapper9145 *K Ø Ň Ś Ö Ô M*
So it's basically Roman empire of the pasific
Yeah, I guess.
cr1mewave *pacific
Regardlex my redditor is such a spelling cop
its more like the mongol empire
@@soulplexis no i dont think you understood the comment. rome was a mediterenean based empire hugging mostly its coast, there were only a few exeptions like england and nothern france that doesnt border the mediterenean. japan here is hugging the pacific and there a few exeptions of india and east turkestan
Thailand:*allied win*
Thailand:Ok
Thailand:*axis win*
Thailand:ok
That's ture
true
Hehe
I’m playing both sides, so that I always come out on top.
I think Thailand should’ve annex lands from Malaysia, Cambodia, Laos, and Burma. I feel like it was unfair they got nothing.
they had power of god and anime on their side
and the power of hentai on they are side too
Guys, Anime and Hentai wouldn't exist in that timeline but I don't know
+Neo 96 Anime were already a thing in the 40's
Well technically you're right, but the Emperor surely won't allow Hentai to exist
Neo 96 Take that back!!!!
The man in the high castle anyone?
AH yes
The man in high castle is the most inaccurate axis victory scenario
Yep
Yeah a far more realistic scenario would be that Japan would stop at China and just help Italy in the African front while they solidify their control of china maybe they could try to go for British raj after the British lost their empires but in the end the realistic scenario would be that Japan would just conquer China and everything east of British raj like laid and Vietnam but anything more that’s too far of a stretch
Japan's chance at victory is none
They never could have realistically won unless Hitler and Japan tag teamed Russia and America just did not care
And if Britain was completely incompetent
Basically, they would need a miracle in order to win
HeCk YeAh
Count how many times he says Japan
72
@@DAGroupEducation what a mad lad
He could just control f his script
Then count how many times bill wurtz says Japan in his history of Japan video!
@@DAGroupEducation 72'd Like XDDD
let's call it the Pacific Empire.
The unpacifistic Pacific Empire
Conrado Javier
Japan liberated ASIA from western colonies and chenged the world
Why though geograpical genius as you can see almost all of the land got occupied is part from Asia not just geography but genetically also if we base to Thailand, Philippines,singapore,Brunei,Cambodia,Vietnam is no doubt that they have Chinese blooded majority.
how bout Pacific Rim?? xD
@@fbn7075 the reason southeast asian have love/hate relationship with japan is because of genocide. Lot of em.
To make this alt history work japan must not commit genocide, and southeast asian will be pretty semi-loyal to japan as they are liberator
lolwait what, invading through Himalayas?
Finally! Someone caught my hidden inaccuracy!
Hannibal would be proud.
If they did, anyway, welllll...... we Nepali fended off the British once before sooo.......
It'd be possible, but you'd have to pass through several choke holds that could've been possible had they not known of the invasion of Tibet. It'd take months of espionage before it would be possible to cut communication between Tibet and other countries, however unlikely, but possible.
Look up Anglo-Nepalese war.
Japanese empire: **exists**
Southeast Asia: *why do I hear boss music*
India: Im hearing it here too
No it reached near myanmar only
2:50 We should have just dropped emus with parachutes on them. Hah, they wouldn’t have lasted long.
No, your parliament would've called it racist to do so, and acknowledged LGBT to have power in your country.
Drummer, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say? In what way is an emu racist? Not to mention Gay Marriage only became legal last year, (2017). I am not entirely sure how any of this is relevant though?
Lachie Clements It's a joke to how your government is a cuck fantasy.
That isnt a funny nor good joke?
Heritage Hah true. Our government is quite useless.
Was japan fascist? I thought they were a monarchy
They were a monarchy, and while they may not have been national socialists like Germany and Italy, they were autocratic and imperial.
DA Group Education alright. thanks.
DA Group Education Italy was not National Socialist it was fascist (national socialism is racist fascism is not) and Japan was controlled by the military and the emperor was just a puppet they were not fascist
There was one primary ingredient missing for japan to be considered properly fascist; the lack of a charismatic leader. The closest japan came to fascism would be in the taisei yokusankai period, 1940-1945. Also, unity wasn‘t exactly great as the government was unable to force complete cooperation between the navy and the army, and constantly fell victim to low-level autonomy in the army. Plus fascism is usually reliant on "restoring" a lost national greatness, which obviously wasn't the case with japan given that it was a new colonial power. Japan during the later years was a military dictatorship with certain formalities still operating as a facade.
They were ran virtually through a militaristic-influenced government with a monarch as a figurehead, since the whole February 26th incident in 1936 happened which gave the military heads more power over Japanese society, nationalizing if not dictating what's acceptable and what's not. There's a scene in Letters from Iwo Jima that shows a Japanese kempetaii Reprimanding a Japanese lady for not having her Japanese flag up. So yeah, pretty fascist
Here’s an idea for you, how about a split allied victory. For instance if Britain fell in 41 but the Americans (being neutral at the time) simply inherited the majority of the British empire and claimed it as a vast protectorate from the axis.
I imagine US statehood for some dominions would be a good insurance policy..
Maybe an alternate history for another day.
So basically TNO
@@primal_guy1526 i suppose so
@@primal_guy1526 I like how most people here get it
Japan: *annexes phillipnes*
Japan:forgets palawan
Palawan: party time
Communist Hukbalahap and American Ussafe preparing for endless ambush to the Japanese in the rest of the Philippine continent: *Loads Garand with ideological intent*
This is a great chance to fight back🇵🇭
Doesn't make sense wouldn't the Philippines also get puppet by Japan
At first, I thought "was the Japanese empire really that big!?" But then I realized that that was an alternate history scenario.
Yeah Japan would have won if they controlled that much territory
@@joshvercekaites1804 it wouldve been impossible for that to happen
@@balkaba3927 Yeah japan holding that much of China alone would be impossible but if they somehow did hold that big of an empire they probably would have won
Bro fr i was thinking it was real the whole time and then when i saw japan invaded usa im like nahhh
Japan: *goes over the Himalayas without an issue*
Literally everyone: “What? Do they have helium in their tires or some shit?”
Also literally everyone: “What in the hot crispy Kentucky-Fried fuck”
WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP FORGETTING PALAWAN???????
hahahaha yeah i noticed it also in every youtube video with maps palawan is missing
Lex- Gaming and Tutorials what is Palawan
Gerber Jenkinson a Philippine province
Palawan becomes a planet only existing in other universe. Lol hhaha
and Obi-Wan
I'm sorry, but there's no way in hell Japan or the Axis in general would be able to invade and occupy the mainland United States. For one they would have to cross an entire ocean to do it, which would make supplying any army extremely difficult, and they would have to deal with the US navy, which would have an advantage due to being on the defensive.
Even if we just say they magically manage to land on the United States, fighting will be impossible. They can win battles, and maybe even hyptothetically nuke some cities, but the insugrgency would be impossible to deal with. The Axis would have to deal with a MASSIVE area of land, which covers deserts, forests, mountains and canyons. Aswell as a disloyal, rebellious and armed population.
Any WWII alternate history timeline that has the mainland United States occupied is ridiculous and unfeasable.
On top of that, Japan had no interest in invading the mainland United States, infact they knew it would be an impossible task.
Same would also go for India, it would be impossible to rule such a highly populated, varied area directly. If anything it would make more sense for Japan to encourage and arm local rebels.
You make some good points. This wasn't supposed to be an accurate alternate history. This was a "dream scenario" for the Axis' plans for the world. This was all their plan, I just added a story to it. I will clear that up in part 3.
+DA Group Education
Even if that's the case, the Axis had no intention nor plans to invade America. If anything they wanted them out of the war with a white peace.
In reality, you are right. The Axis in whole wouldn't invade America, but part of the government wanted to, war plans were made, and America added to the GEACPS Land Disposal plan. I wanted to add the Americas into this series and this was the most accurate way to do it.
That is actually how I modified it in part three, (though extremely more simplified). So... spoilers?
+Vlad Kovtun
You're under the assumption that the Axis can just win some battles and as such win the war, that's not how it works, look at Vietnam. The United States is MASSIVE, it's the 4th largest country in the world and probably has the most varied terrain of any country in the world. The population would be extremely disloyal due to a 200 year old tradition of democracy and would be heavily armed to the teeth.
Even if they magically manage to destroy the US navy, the US army and get enough supplies to transport massive armies across an entire ocean, they'll never win. The Americans would be willing to fight to the last man, the Axis would not, it's simple as that.
2:12 thailand joins the axphis
Why have you got confredracy flag
Thailand joined g-axpsisis
@@Jack-kd5hd yis wey
GEACPS*
get that filthy flag of your pp
If Japan looked like the one on the logo, that would be the largest empire in HISTORY
That is Japan back then in 1942,.......and the biggest empire in history is actually the British empire bruh
@@fayesshusband Mongol Empire was the biggest empire actually.
Brandon Banks oh yeah my bad
but this Wikipediasays its british empire idk whats going on ahh
@@fayesshusband British Empore is the largest empire in history. Mongol Empire was the largest continuous land Empire (basically territory that was all connected to eachother).
This is a great video! Keep it up!
Thank you!
meanwhile in an alternate universe:
Allied Victory / Alternate History / Episode 1: France
Great video and a really good attempt at an alt history story,
Although many of the reasoning and details for why this happened or didn't happened should be explained to better elaborate why you think this would've been likley. And it should be stated what the actual fact was in our timeline and why this alternate timeline is possible or probable if certain factors clicked into place.
Such an example would be...
Explaining that the Japanese military apparatus was split into two camps; Invading into china or invading through the European held South East Asian islands (explaining this point defiantly helps the argument for those who don't know). In our current timeline, japan did invade into China via Manchu (Manchukuo). However they pretty much stopped at Manchukuo and most of the coastal territory. However in our timeline, they decided to invade the islands and to this end needed to capture the Philippines which was currently owned by the United States (as a naval blockade from here would cut all supplies going in and out). This is doubly important as a supply route through the heavily jungle and mountainous South East Asia would've been at best heavily bottle necked and at worst unable to supply adequate supplies.
If you look back at my older videos, I don't do alternate history. This series was for fun as I only expected 50 or so views, but this ended up my most popular thing ever and now I'm stuck with my lazily written video. :)
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The Japanese did as they did because they had the element of surprise working for them, plus the US provided most of their war-making materials, when this stopped they had to have a new source especially for oil and iron. The islands to their south provided this, though unwillingly!
Wunderwaffe doesn't actually means the A-bomb but any research ahead of their enemies time like jet fighters or assault rifles. It translates to wonder weapon
Yeah no wonder Gobbels kept saying Germany would get super weapons from Providence
i understand this is basically supposed to be a story time thing. i can understand japan taking care of a lot of Asia (so long as they didn't anger the United States. that was their biggest... BIGGEST, mistake). as soon as you talked about them taking over main land America, all realism went out of the window. the main reason japan lost in the first place was because of pearl harbor. America was pissed to put it mildly. the reason the battle of midway alone was such a crushing blow to the Japanese, was because they lost the bulk of their naval fleet. all four carriers of the fleet were lost in a single battle. carriers were the bulk of naval forces. without them, defeat was inevitable. add to that, Americas industrial might. for every ship lost, America could produce 2 more. after the battle of the coral sea, a severely damaged Yorktown limped into dry dock. was was repaired and made battle ready in 3 days and sent off to fight at Midway with the USS Hornet and USS Enterprise. for every ship the Japanese lost, they couldn't replace it. the American war machine alone was enough to not just hold back japan, but push back as well. whilst we did that, we also helped the allies push back Germany. as for Italy... well they weren't much of a threat to begin with. after pearl harbor, Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, who planned the attack on Pearl Harbor, would reportedly write in his diary, “I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". in which they did. they did awaken a beast, and our resolve was nuclear. he would also go on to state that, "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass". that is more troops, supplies and vehicles they simply couldn't supply, they couldn't afford to loose. there is no scenario in which japan would have been victorious over the united states, even with Germany's help. again Italy, basically useless. sorry for any Italians reading this. i believe it was Stalin who stated that "The three things that won WWII were British brains, American production, and Russian bodies". also with germany's "wunderwaffe", without Einstein and his team, they never would have got the nuke before the US. Einstein fled Germany so Hitler couldn't get his secret. the US would have got the bomb first. if not for an offensive strike, a defensive strike against the Germans or Japanese. the only way for an Axis victory, is to keep the US out of the war at all costs. they might defeat the Russians... MIGHT. but both Germany and Japans military power would be severely depleted by that point. they wouldn't have the man power to take on another giant like the US. let alone hold the territories they gained. japan declaring war on us was their worst mistake. Germany could have said "hey um buddy... im not getting in that mess. you fucked up big time". and not allied with japan. then Germany might have been a bit better off... not much, but a bit.
This is an alt history vid, not a ted talk -_- (Respect for writing that much though)
This is pretty cool
You have lots of potential, keep on going!
Thanks for the support! I really appreciate it!
Japan and big army
Indeed
Japan and big army
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I want my land at indochina back that why i join axis :]
South america: *panik*
Japan: dont worry i wil only take coastal provinces
Chile: *ULTRA PANIK*
You gave me an inspiration to try this on Hearts of Iron II Wish me luck! And by the way, good video :) Japan is one of my favorite nations, you should try this with China too, I love Asia.
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Just saying, the Japanese invasion of Australia is practically impossible because we could use ( and would ) use attacks in the outback, where none of the Japanese Military has experience in.
Agree plus it's so far away from anything else
THANK FUCK I FOUND THIS!, even before i saw the first five seconds, i subbed.
OH MY GOD thank you for the support, it means a lot!
Wow this is really good! Why don't you at least have 100k+?! Keep it up, subbed!
Thanks man! I wasn't sure how well a change to alternate history would go so I appreciate the support.
30 subs definitely seems a bit small for this quality
I am pretty new at this. First regular video was in August.
Colonial Mapper -wait you’re not supposed to praise people what’s going on here-
Nice video but one thing i believe you should know is that a prominent Indian freedom fighter by the name of Subhas Chandra Bose had a deal with Imperial Japan that the Japanese would help India gain independence and they started the Azad Hind Fauj or Indian National Army in Singapore. Bose knew that the Japanese would try to annex India like they did the Dutch East Indies, so he made a plan to stop a Japanese invasion if one was attempted.
5:14 Yakko's World but it's countries annexed by Japan.
LOL
This channel is underrated. Great and fun contents
This is some quality content, how do you not have more subscribers?
Japan never had intentions on taking over Australia and don’t forget the Aussies beat the Japanese at the Kokoda trail. The Japanese were also good at fighting in tropical, more hilly and wetter climates, so the Japanese would have actually struggled to fight mainland Australia the further down they go (assuming they followed the east coast) except maybe for the North and north Queensland. Also the US would’ve stepped in to defend at the very least Australia and then New Zealand. The Japanese new attacking Australia is a bad idea because it would cost too much effort and likely wouldn’t do them any good.
the japanese actually did want to take australia, mainly just to stop them from being of use to the USA but also, in their words, "free the australian people from the shackles of the british empire" (aka they wouldve just enslaved and murdered like half of us).
@@giantcrayfish2866 Only one faction in the Imperial Navy seriously wanted to invade Australia, In an Imperial Headquarters Diary it said "so much gibberish" when told about an invasion of Australia, and the army had dismissed the idea as nothing but nonsense (Seeing as their supply lines were already overstreached, and they would've had to taken troops out of China and the Soviet border to fight in Australia). The Japanese favored a policy of cutting off Australia's supply lines and forcing it into submission in a seperate peace.
@@aaa-gq9yi also true, but it’s more interesting this way
I feel like at the very least Australian wouldn’t be directly annexed by Japan, in all likelihood they’d probably make a friendly austrasian state (New Zealand and Australia combined into one state dependent on Japan)
I haven't watched the associated Reich victory series, but I read a fascinating book several years ago that was I believe a yearly review out of topics for the US War College, pre-draft actually.
A fascinating article in that volume looked at a systemic weakness of the Nazis and Imperial Japanese organizations. Logistics and supply were seen as backwaters, and third rate officers considered to have no future were relegated to this. Note we are talking the Nazis, who were promoting party members at roughly twice the speed of non-party officers. I've haven't seen the numbers for the Polish campaign, but after France the difference was marked, and this finally lead to the promotion of the non-entity Field Marshall Ernst Busch, the sycophant promoted to the command of Army Group Center, and the biggest disaster suffered by the Nazis in WW2 (Operation Bagration, or the Destruction of Army Group Center 1944).
As my own aside, the Nazis had at least the tradition of the Imperial German Army to build on, which was were very logistically oriented. In fact the victory in France in 1940 made the Nazis and the Wehrmacht as overconfident as the Japanese. The reason the French Campaign had two periods of German offensive, was that the Wehrmacht was actually at its logistical limits right around Dunkirk. Their armored units needed to pause to regroup for maintenance and logistically, letting the bulk of the British troops escape. The Japanese on the other hand had no such tradition, they hadn't preceived the need since the Sino-Japanese and Russo-Japanese wars stressed short lightning fast conflicts. Yamamoto was justifiably concerned about this issue (his famous 6 months remark about how long he could guarantee victory), as there is probably nothing as resource intensive as Naval Aviation.
In the British Army the Boer War had caused massive changes, and in the US in the interwar period the tradition begun after the Civil War (begun so officers didn't have local loyalties) lead to most US Army officers rotated to remote posts where logistics were a struggle due to US peacetime budgets. So while they made plenty of their own mistakes, logistics instead were something good the US and Imperial Britian were already painfully, if not prepared for, properly cautious.
Besides the absurd idea of supply over the Himalayas, the author of this video ignores how the Imperial Japanese were fairing little better than the Nazis when it came to occupation policies. The Japanese were welcomed in many "colonies" (i.e. European conquered and exploited areas) and while welcomed initially, the areas discovered they had only switched masters, and that the Japanese were as exploitive but even more brutal than the European powers of 1940. Considering how the Dutch were hard in the East Indies, that is an impressive accomplishment.
So you are stating that a brutal regime is going to do a total charge in its logistics out of thin air, and totally change its strategic and operational assumptions, while becoming the most enlightened colonial power of the time. When until 1944 the Japanese army and navy refused to even consider commonality of parts on aircaft engines like tubing (their aviation divisions were kept so totally seperate that visiting Nazis officials had to wait at the army side of a factory until they army officers turned them over via locked doors to the naval officers).
That's like asking the Nazis to administer conquered areas in a way to win hearts and minds. After WW2 US Intelligence found a cautiously stated report in the Wehrmacht reports out of Russia, stating that many officers had found the civilian populations welcoming them (we are talking the Ukraine, Crimea, and the Baltic states that were brutally repressed by Stalin, google "The Great Terror USSR"). They noted that after the SS Special Operations Groups (Einsatzgruppen) moved in, the areas no longer could be relied on to draw supplies from and I stead required the diversion of troops for anti-partisan operations.
The Nazis couldn't do it, even when Speer appealed for the SS to stop killing his workers. The Japanese military, especially the army, were no more capable of that change in the time being fantasized about.
yeah i definitely agree, especially where you talked about that thing that uh germany did, yeah really cool.
WOW, Good video you deserve more subs!!
Thank you!
this sounds like an epic hoi4 run you got there
Did Chile or Peru or other South American country joined the WW2?
noone:
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Germany does a sealion, Japan goes over himalayas, Sinkiang flips. WTF is this bruh
3:32 that’s impossible they had the bob semple tank no one can stop the bob semple
It would be cool if japanese won, won’t that be neat to see a japanese afghanistan? or a japanese peru?
@@zhengjiwangii9777 Like the British did?
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@@mikuhatsune8121 am i gonna be wooshed, because you have an anime avatar, but idk if this is a joke
Just letting you know that youtube is recommending your videos even though you have under 1k subs. Dropped a sub too.
3:40 Japan did not just annex an entire continent💀💀💀
If there is some detail that is unrealistic:
Straya being taken
Imagine going back in time and showing this to japan
S h o w I t to h I r o h I t o
This empire would collapse within a year you cants occupy all of that at once
What happened to Thailand when Axis win the war ????
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THANK YOU! This video is MUCH better than the AltHistory version of this where the narrator says condescendingly “there’s NO way that Japan could have possibly won” in a video about if they had won smh.
Ironuniverse 1230 It’s been up for a few months. He basically says that Japan would never win.
This is good
Thanks for the support!
Hirohito as a ghost :
*what did i miss*
You're an amazing alternate historian and your videos are very realistic! I'm subbing!
Dude you should be making a mapping video everyday you’re too good for this
0:25:
hoi4 players:
hey, ive seen this one!
Wait if China Surrendered dosen't mean that Japan will have Better Supply lines
Roman empire: *Dominated the Mediterranean sea*
Alternate japanese empire: *Dominates the pacific ocean*
At 2:29 you said, “broke Malaysia into two” and kingdom of Malaya is formed on the peninsular. You can’t break what something that hasn’t formed. Malaya (peninsular Malaysia) only became Malaysia in 1963 when Malaya, Singapore and British Borneo colonies (Sarawak and Sabah) merged. Cool alternate history though apart from the error.
so in this japan toke forever to attack the Philepins but in real life Japan attacked them faster then my dad left me
Personally I think Afghanistan wouldn’t have been invade and the Americas wouldn’t have been invaded either. Hawaii would have been taken and the islands like Fiji, New Caledonia, and Polynesia would also have been taken. Madagascar probably would have been taken as well due to the Japanese wanting it as a submarine base and the other islands in the Indian ocean.
Japan: *OMAI WA MOU SHINDEIRU*
Philippines: Ano? (What?)
Edit: m8 u forgot palawan 😂😂😭
何 ？
NANI
Philippines: OMAI WA MOU SHINDEIRU "REVERSE"
Well that's assuming they win every engagement, and they can just grab whatever they want, and that the local population of the countries they anxed wouldn't rebel.
I really think this is important because if it’s based on what Japanese leader Hirohito thought would be the perfect future. It’s like having a fun experiment and I think it’s very valid my think we should run these for each of our countries - including United States 🇺🇸 - right now I’d like to see what one can interpolate is Trump’s vision (for example).
I feel a bit off due to the fact that The Puerto Princesa Island is not included in the Philippine Map
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put this in russian
the best ive got
ITS ABOUT FREAKING TIME SOMEONE DID THIS VID
What would the population be?
No idea. The population of everywhere minus war casualties but I never thought about it.
i would tell you the jewish population but you already know
Why people is hating on this. This is just an alternate history. Just watch another video if you didn't like this. This video is just for fun it is not real.
Japan were actually pissing themselves with fear over the thought of trying to invade Australia
What if this happened? Woah my mind is blown. Cool video
Japan was not fascist just nationalist militarism
I forgot I was watching alternate history and wondered why they anenexed Australia
This is 1 year ago okay imma just say this you forgot Palawan in the Philippines
Japan outright annex’s Australia? Southern India? Why?
I loved how you highlighted the Philippines, during those they can’t invade immidiately or else all of their troops will be put in missery.
I hope there an alternate history whereby the US paid the USAFE in full as promised by roosevelt. That would be great! rather than changing the promises after the war through congress.
Taking ANY part of the Americas would have been MUCH harder than Asia. Japan at the time was essentially the only Asian country with any worthwhile industrial capacity to utitilize. Latin America, Canada, and ESPECIALLY the US had strong industrial capabilities and it would be a stretch to think Japan could take any part of the Americas and it would be incredulous to think they could occupy any part of the continental United States. Although the Nazi nuke might be the one thing that makes this SLIGHTLY more realistic although I feel like an American surrender and retreat back into isolationism is more likely than an actual occupation by Germany and Japan-especially since the US was working on nuclear weapons themselves and actually got them by the end of WWII OTL.
I love this
Japan would ve needed amphibious assaults to defeat India. It was impossible to strike over the Himalaya at this time, there was no infastructure to support large armies. The route through Burma was also very difficult, Japan even had to build their own railroad there.
Awesome!
All right, we know what they do, but the question is how do we destroy it?
万歳!!🙌
日本人誰もいなくて寂しい(´･ω･｀)
大日本帝国万歳！！
わしもいるぞ
There's no way Japan would have chosen the Southern Plan if they successfully dominated China. The Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy were basically separate militaries vying for power over Japan's policies and direction. Historically, the IJA lost some of their prestige and influence because of their lack of progress in China and their failures fighting the Soviets at Khalkin Gol, so the IJN got to push their Southern Plan to take SEA and face the Western Allies. The IJA wanted the Northern Plan, which was to push into Soviet territory to take Siberia and the rest of Manchuria, and further push west.
There was also the possibility that if the IJA continued to make sweeping victories, the IJN may have revolted in some fashion, or attempted to sabotage the IJA. The animosity between the two factions was that strong.
1:18 W R O N G !
No
Is there any deep reason why the island of Palawan got left out in the Philippines map
Wow!
Thanks!
Um Da Group Education I think you forgot that most of the countries that were annexed by the Japanese will fight tooth and Nail for their countries land and territories and How does Japan Have so many troops to Invade let alone successfully control most of them
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You need to remember that germany failed to destroy the british air force and failed to invade britain. Even if germany waited to invade the ussr and defeated the uk, the ussr would probaly strike germany
When you turn on infinite resources be like...
Tell me you didn’t take inspiration from Man in the high castle without telling me you took inspiration from man in the high castle.
Loved the video
But in a realistic situation
Japan and the axis if they where able to invade the US and Canada would face strong resistance when invading and after
Voraciousgnu I doubt they could even invade weaker nations like Argentina and Brazil. It would be a logistical nightmare. They would outnumbered in every front In a completely foreign land and morale would definitely not be in their side. Also if they sent there troops to the America’s Asia and Europe would just explode in revolts.
Yes.
Even in their wildest dreams Japanese imperialists never considered annexing Canada and the US, I suppose. They’d be content if they could take Hawaii.
soooo what happened to Thailand? are we just going to sit their and eat popcorn while everyone's fighting?
Man i glad that the allies won
Same
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everybody is if axis won the ww2 this was not a world it could be a complete hell
Basically... you are explaining the history behind the man in the high castle?
Gaespcs :D Nice pronouncation.
Isn't it?
Yes, it is. I watched whole video because of that :D
I do think that Australia would likely be made a puppet, not fully annexed, as Japan couldn’t have controlled the whole of Australia.