The only content creator not curating their finest momemnts. Your gameplay is reflective of what actually happens in games. Most WT youtubers seem to fight hordes of enemies who spend the whole game looking through the gun sight.
Thank you. I try to be real with it. Spending too much time getting ridiculous kill streaks would make me go crazy. I want people to know how good these vehicles are, whether it's good or bad.
So many people don’t give enough credit to the stock APDS round. It is more than enough to pen a Maus’ cheeks, lower plate or sides. Not to mention an IS-6 at any angle. It’s a really enjoyable tank to play and from stock to spaded it’s an incredibly fun tank to play.
i have been using the m60 for a while now and i have noticed that even on long range maps the apds is better since it’s faster and easier to aim i only use the heat if i encounter a heavily armoured target and at long distance only if i know the range. oh and obviously you can fire through cover with apds.
@@Mountainlake1 HEAT is great for longrange maps. The APDS is good at medium ranged maps. The HEAT has enough postpen damage to kill a crew or trigger ammo. SInce most ammo on this BR are very packed beside the driver or behind the turret.
I feel like this mid tier US tanks (7.0 to 7.7ish) are pretty painful to play through. The M60 and the M103 are the only tanks with reliable guns fighting tanks head on. Doesn't help that so many people just hide in shadows and corners at this BR.. And you have to worry about damn helicopters too 🙄
yeah, at those BRs the US dont have any support vehicle, their vehicles are outclassed af ( M48 with a 90mm gun and 150mm of protection frontally ) against T-54s with 100mm guns capable of shooting sabots with 230mm of effective protection, i dont understand why they havent gave any kind of 7.0 ATGM launcher to the US, im sure there must be one, maybe even lowering the BR of the M551 Sheridan to 7.7, because at that BR the soviets have the Object 908 which is stabilized, has APHE, has HEAT that is more reliable than the 152mm one and reloads faster, only M551 sheridan advantage is the capabilitie of shooting the Shellilagh missile
Weird how the best vehicles at that BR are premiums like the T114 and the US Magach 3 with the 105mm gun. I can easily get plenty of kills with those vehicles, but as soon as I do a standard tech tree 7.3 BR setup, the stock grind with the M48 ACPR is painful. The T32 is a good heavy tank at that BR, though heat counters it pretty well and that classic american hull mg weak spot. Jet CAS options at 7.0 to .7 are limited, majority of the time your probably better off using a P47.
@@danko8983 yeah the Sheridan should be 7.7, the ATGM while decent from my experiences at 8.0+ the lack of thermals makes it not really full uptier competitive
@@Meowystery alternatively they could keep the Sheridan at 8.0 but change it to the one with the laser rangefinder, allowing it to use its HEAT at range
@@danko8983 Because it does not fit the narrative of Russian tanks were the best, on top of the insane amount of prototypes and "objects" that Russia produced. If they aren't doing historical accuracy, whether for time or stats, then they can flood every BR with options. Granted, Germany has alot of vehicles too, but it almost feels cramped and forced up to a certain BR. Then you get odd gaps, like kugelblitz to Wiesel, to Gepard, to Ozelot.
now that the M60 is 8.0 it feels like aids to play. and the 8.3 M551 M60A2 and T95E1 are all apocalyptic bad. Non FS heat doesnt have any post pen damage. and the M60 and 95E1 dont have stabalizers.. so getting constant 9.0 and 9.3 uptiers vs thermals and LRF enemies feels horrible. and these tanks have no chance. + you constantly fight T55AMs and T62Ms which are immune to heat and early ATGMs from the front and sides..
The thing I love about the M60 is the cupola. It is perfect for baiting emenimes. Most of the time they will shoot the cupola because it sticks out of cover and kill only commander. Then you can quickly peek and shoot them while they are still reloading.
I'm grinding Israel rn and I absolutely love the Magach 6 and 6A. I had fun in the earlier Magachs also and from what I hear I will begin to suffer as I go further up the Magach line
Stock vs spaded the m60 are 2 different vehicles and the higher br m60s suffer much from the lack of mobility lack of armor big silhouette and stock ammo untill you unlock the apfsds darts.
They are good. The 6m gets thermals at 8.7 and only weight 50 tons, The 6c has an amazing ammo for 9.0. The 6b is just the israeli version of us rise p. The gal batash has good hull down armor. All are good tank but just terrible stock grind
Every time i get into an M60 I get popped within the first minuet of spawn. I've made it to like the 6th Magach and just couldn't do it anymore, so much death and couldn't push into points.
its stock shell is the only shell id recomend exept for like 3 hesh shells for those pesky df105s. spaiding it doesnt really make a difference because its so good stock but spaiding does help with the grind
I'm pretty negative on the m60s. They just get worse the further you go, with the AOS being possibly the best one. This one suffers from the turret design, and the mobility being what they are. You don't have good armor, or good mobility, and a gun that's about as good as everyone else, so it doesn't stand out either. I really don't like them. the TTS is especially painful, being end of the line.
I disagree. I've used the AOS and RISE in the US line and whatever the regular M60 is in the Isreali tree (Magach 6?). The M60s still have great reaction time present in most American tanks, great gun depression, and the armor is pretty reliable for me but maybe I'm lucky. The M60/AOS have a good heat round and the RISE gets the M1's low tier sabot almost a full BR lower.
@@rexxmen The problem with the base m60 is the fat turret, and the missing extra plate behind the gun shield, so there is always something weak for the enemy to shoot at that's easy to pen for any contemporary gun, without having the mobility to compensate for it. The AOS fixes that issue, even if the turret can still be kind of weak. As for the TTS, while spading that, on volokolamsk, the T10M would outspeed it with a similar amount of modifications, and even the is-4m could keep up with the speed (all about half-spaded, with the same mobility upgrades at the time and I happened to get that same map with the same spawns multiple times in a row). The rise is basically just the tts without thermals and m774 at 8.7, so it's alright, but I'd rather be in a type 74 any day.
@@danko8983 I'm sure they will. There's already stuff like the AMBT in the game, not to mention about half the Israeli tree, so I wouldn't be surprised if they added another US m60 variant since they wouldn't have to make a fully new model for it.
I just spaded the AOS and for me it's very nice too. I usually open my battles with it and the back up will be the T95E1. I felt that the regular M60 is not worth that much with the AOS so close and that has a stabilizer - which you'd want over .3 BR less. At least in my opinion. I suffered too much in the mid-tier USA and now it seems it's coming back somehow.
Who loves this thing?I thought people hated the m60s cuz they’re super slow and have mid armor. At least that’s how I feel about it when playing it, constant up tiers and you get dunked on at close range by aphe cuz of the fat turret cupola- instant 1 shot I can’t tell how many times I’ve gotten frontally killed by ZSU-57s who just aim for the cupola
I honestly enjoy this tank, even stock! The stock APDS is amazing really good… in fact, I use it over the HEAT-FS. At this tier, HESH is still useful. I find that no stabilizer is a downside, but you can manage quite well. The armour is good, not great, with average mobility. Is this tank great or good… eh? But is it fun for some reason? Absolutely. I really enjoy all the M60s, but the original is my favorite!
@@Optimusprime56241 true but high angle pen is good because of ufp. They are almost always at least 50° so having a round that cleaves through the ufp is the best thing to have
12:35 You can skip the M60 line, as the M60 itself is foldered with the M48 and rank 6 is so large that you can progress to rank 7 without the upgraded M60s. The advice a friend gave me was to just rush the Abrams line and ignore the M60s (in regards to XM-1 grinding), and that advice has served me well, but I do regret not being able to play such iconic vehicles.
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The only content creator not curating their finest momemnts. Your gameplay is reflective of what actually happens in games. Most WT youtubers seem to fight hordes of enemies who spend the whole game looking through the gun sight.
Thank you. I try to be real with it. Spending too much time getting ridiculous kill streaks would make me go crazy. I want people to know how good these vehicles are, whether it's good or bad.
So many people don’t give enough credit to the stock APDS round. It is more than enough to pen a Maus’ cheeks, lower plate or sides. Not to mention an IS-6 at any angle. It’s a really enjoyable tank to play and from stock to spaded it’s an incredibly fun tank to play.
i have been using the m60 for a while now and i have noticed that even on long range maps the apds is better since it’s faster and easier to aim i only use the heat if i encounter a heavily armoured target and at long distance only if i know the range. oh and obviously you can fire through cover with apds.
I just about never used heat unless it stock,
@@Mountainlake1 HEAT is great for longrange maps. The APDS is good at medium ranged maps. The HEAT has enough postpen damage to kill a crew or trigger ammo. SInce most ammo on this BR are very packed beside the driver or behind the turret.
I feel like this mid tier US tanks (7.0 to 7.7ish) are pretty painful to play through. The M60 and the M103 are the only tanks with reliable guns fighting tanks head on. Doesn't help that so many people just hide in shadows and corners at this BR.. And you have to worry about damn helicopters too 🙄
yeah, at those BRs the US dont have any support vehicle, their vehicles are outclassed af ( M48 with a 90mm gun and 150mm of protection frontally ) against T-54s with 100mm guns capable of shooting sabots with 230mm of effective protection, i dont understand why they havent gave any kind of 7.0 ATGM launcher to the US, im sure there must be one, maybe even lowering the BR of the M551 Sheridan to 7.7, because at that BR the soviets have the Object 908 which is stabilized, has APHE, has HEAT that is more reliable than the 152mm one and reloads faster, only M551 sheridan advantage is the capabilitie of shooting the Shellilagh missile
Weird how the best vehicles at that BR are premiums like the T114 and the US Magach 3 with the 105mm gun.
I can easily get plenty of kills with those vehicles, but as soon as I do a standard tech tree 7.3 BR setup, the stock grind with the M48 ACPR is painful. The T32 is a good heavy tank at that BR, though heat counters it pretty well and that classic american hull mg weak spot. Jet CAS options at 7.0 to .7 are limited, majority of the time your probably better off using a P47.
@@danko8983 yeah the Sheridan should be 7.7, the ATGM while decent from my experiences at 8.0+ the lack of thermals makes it not really full uptier competitive
@@Meowystery alternatively they could keep the Sheridan at 8.0 but change it to the one with the laser rangefinder, allowing it to use its HEAT at range
@@danko8983 Because it does not fit the narrative of Russian tanks were the best, on top of the insane amount of prototypes and "objects" that Russia produced. If they aren't doing historical accuracy, whether for time or stats, then they can flood every BR with options. Granted, Germany has alot of vehicles too, but it almost feels cramped and forced up to a certain BR. Then you get odd gaps, like kugelblitz to Wiesel, to Gepard, to Ozelot.
This tank has sentimental value for me since there’s a decommissioned one at my local park. It’s the only tank in WT I’ve touched IRL
In South Africa they had a military parade, about 4 or 5 years ago. I got to climb inside one of the older olifant tank models
I think the no stabilizer is insane
now that the M60 is 8.0 it feels like aids to play. and the 8.3 M551 M60A2 and T95E1 are all apocalyptic bad.
Non FS heat doesnt have any post pen damage. and the M60 and 95E1 dont have stabalizers.. so getting constant 9.0 and 9.3 uptiers vs thermals and LRF enemies feels horrible.
and these tanks have no chance.
+ you constantly fight T55AMs and T62Ms which are immune to heat and early ATGMs from the front and sides..
The thing I love about the M60 is the cupola. It is perfect for baiting emenimes. Most of the time they will shoot the cupola because it sticks out of cover and kill only commander. Then you can quickly peek and shoot them while they are still reloading.
yeah its gonna be real funny when they shoot you with aphe and you get knocked out lmfao
Or you get killed by spaa through it
I'm grinding Israel rn and I absolutely love the Magach 6 and 6A. I had fun in the earlier Magachs also and from what I hear I will begin to suffer as I go further up the Magach line
Stock vs spaded the m60 are 2 different vehicles and the higher br m60s suffer much from the lack of mobility lack of armor big silhouette and stock ammo untill you unlock the apfsds darts.
They are good. The 6m gets thermals at 8.7 and only weight 50 tons, The 6c has an amazing ammo for 9.0. The 6b is just the israeli version of us rise p. The gal batash has good hull down armor.
All are good tank but just terrible stock grind
Every time i get into an M60 I get popped within the first minuet of spawn. I've made it to like the 6th Magach and just couldn't do it anymore, so much death and couldn't push into points.
its stock shell is the only shell id recomend exept for like 3 hesh shells for those pesky df105s. spaiding it doesnt really make a difference because its so good stock but spaiding does help with the grind
My father commanded these tanks in Germany in the 70s.
I'm quite far away from Mid- or Top Tier (5.3 with Germany, 2.7 with USA) but I still love this series!
Keep at it, my guy! The grind is rough but, if you enjoy it as you go, its worth it
@@tedparkinson2033it’s not worth it but definitely rewarding.
@@josislost The funny bar going up makes my brain release the fun chemicals
👍 Thanks! 😍
Please include low tier (beginner) ground forces, aircraft, and naval in this series. TiA! ✌
I'm pretty negative on the m60s. They just get worse the further you go, with the AOS being possibly the best one. This one suffers from the turret design, and the mobility being what they are. You don't have good armor, or good mobility, and a gun that's about as good as everyone else, so it doesn't stand out either. I really don't like them. the TTS is especially painful, being end of the line.
i really hope gaijin adds the M60 SLEP in 9.7 to counter the Leopard 2K of germany, that line is just useless right now
I disagree. I've used the AOS and RISE in the US line and whatever the regular M60 is in the Isreali tree (Magach 6?). The M60s still have great reaction time present in most American tanks, great gun depression, and the armor is pretty reliable for me but maybe I'm lucky. The M60/AOS have a good heat round and the RISE gets the M1's low tier sabot almost a full BR lower.
@@rexxmen The problem with the base m60 is the fat turret, and the missing extra plate behind the gun shield, so there is always something weak for the enemy to shoot at that's easy to pen for any contemporary gun, without having the mobility to compensate for it. The AOS fixes that issue, even if the turret can still be kind of weak. As for the TTS, while spading that, on volokolamsk, the T10M would outspeed it with a similar amount of modifications, and even the is-4m could keep up with the speed (all about half-spaded, with the same mobility upgrades at the time and I happened to get that same map with the same spawns multiple times in a row). The rise is basically just the tts without thermals and m774 at 8.7, so it's alright, but I'd rather be in a type 74 any day.
What about the 60mbt
@@danko8983 I'm sure they will. There's already stuff like the AMBT in the game, not to mention about half the Israeli tree, so I wouldn't be surprised if they added another US m60 variant since they wouldn't have to make a fully new model for it.
next do the m48
The m60aos is the sweet spot for the m60. At 8.0 it’s super strong but I don’t think op. Especially compared to the Russians
I just spaded the AOS and for me it's very nice too. I usually open my battles with it and the back up will be the T95E1. I felt that the regular M60 is not worth that much with the AOS so close and that has a stabilizer - which you'd want over .3 BR less. At least in my opinion. I suffered too much in the mid-tier USA and now it seems it's coming back somehow.
Who loves this thing?I thought people hated the m60s cuz they’re super slow and have mid armor. At least that’s how I feel about it when playing it, constant up tiers and you get dunked on at close range by aphe cuz of the fat turret cupola- instant 1 shot I can’t tell how many times I’ve gotten frontally killed by ZSU-57s who just aim for the cupola
I honestly enjoy this tank, even stock! The stock APDS is amazing really good… in fact, I use it over the HEAT-FS. At this tier, HESH is still useful. I find that no stabilizer is a downside, but you can manage quite well. The armour is good, not great, with average mobility. Is this tank great or good… eh? But is it fun for some reason? Absolutely. I really enjoy all the M60s, but the original is my favorite!
I don't care what anyone says, I fucking love the M60s. Especially the M60A1 AOS and the Magach 6b.
im only using the apds on the m60 even when spaded and take like 5 heatfs only against some very heavy tanks like is 6
Likin the series, T.👍
imo the m60 is just kinda sad
The only M60 I would ever touch is the CM11
Please do the m48 next
Can you do a Stock to Spaded on the British Vampire?
Also! Love the content!
how could you still shoot at 3:39? Your gunner was down.
His commander was still up and even in early NATO tanks ur commander can shoot if ur gunner is down
I quit grinding this line after the m60 AOS, i would rather jump to 9.0 with a good vehicle than jump to 8.7 with a bad vehicle (rise)
The first M60 is the best. The later models are trash. I just recently unlocked the the later ones. I still the m60 as my main through 8.0 to 9.0
despite not being a very remarkable vehicle, it's the only one I've ever gotten a nuke in.
Isn’t there a tank like this with stock apcr?
The (AOS) is WAY better for only .3 br increase. Better round,armor, stabilized.
love you
Interesting puma kill while your gunner was killed..
the M60 is okay, but the M60A1 is way better. and still Looks hella cool.
I dare you to try magach 6A and 6R
the m60 is awful for its BR imo it should not be 7.7
i dont know why this tank is same performance as leopard 1 but little high br
Yes
its 8.0 now its the saddest tank at its br and if its even a .3 up tier your gonna face alot of stabilised tanks
My question is why does the regular M60 the M392A2 shell with 303mm pen but the M60 (AOS) has M728 with 260mm pen ?
The latter has better angled performance.
Yeah the aos shell is honestly better because it’s angled pen is higher and that’s more important than flat pen in 9 out of 10 situations
@@Doge-tk4pp slightly better at 60 degrees but worse by alot in the other 2 departments
@@lancehamlett3054 it has worse 30 degree performance as well
@@Optimusprime56241 true but high angle pen is good because of ufp. They are almost always at least 50° so having a round that cleaves through the ufp is the best thing to have
The AOS is far better at only one br spot up.
12:35 You can skip the M60 line, as the M60 itself is foldered with the M48 and rank 6 is so large that you can progress to rank 7 without the upgraded M60s.
The advice a friend gave me was to just rush the Abrams line and ignore the M60s (in regards to XM-1 grinding), and that advice has served me well, but I do regret not being able to play such iconic vehicles.
Luv the M60 the things a monster very good medium tank for America at this BR
One of the worst tanks in war thunder
7.0 in german tree
2:39 its actually pretty decent stock. lmfao you're fighting tanks 15 years younger than it, of course its pretty decent