Dark Souls 2 doesn't have chest chains to distinguish mimics? In Dark Souls Remaster and 3 I have never received an unexpected mimic since I found out about the chain(If the chain is forward, then it is a mimic, if the chain is hidden under the texture, then it is a mimic that Miyazaki disguised
@@BoneWalker Doesn't work. They have a big circular hitbox arounde their grab, so you'll get grabbed regardless of which position you stand near them.
@@memenazi7078 I don't think most use a bow and arrow out of Amana, besides spells ofc. The point is, if you use melee and don't know about that, you're dead.
@@angrymedic3803 yes, because "lvl adp" is saying "hey its not ur fault ur bad, just level a stat" while saying "git gud" is implying a skill issue. They have completely different implications. The main issues that people have with adp is that the bad hit boxes still exist even while leveling it. It is a stat that doesn't warrant its own existence because it's functionality is obtuse and only works as a fix SOME of the time.
See, this could have been avoided with only the slightest of effort, by just having it deal damage without activating the grab animation. No one would be complaining at the mere fact of you taking damage from standing behind a mimic while the limbs explode out from it, that would have made perfect sense.
@@Nitsua2841 No need to get defensive bro, I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't dissing you, but the developers of that terrible grab hit box. He was saying the devs should have made the fail safe a knock back attack from the limbs bursting out instead of a visually jarring 180° grab with its mouth.
The same thing happened to me back on release week. Also looking back I didn’t understand ADP thinking you just had s and this being my first souls games made me think I was just bad at dodging.
My agility is at 97/98, I have the “recommended” ADP leveling, but guess what? Those hit boxes are still a bitch, particularly The Imperfect’s dark orb ranged attack.
Personally, I had more fun before I knew about adp than after I leveled it up, which was after killing fume knight. I guess thats because I loved that I had to use every single dodge at the perfect timing
I would love for them to do something with the mimic bonfire concept. Throw in a few sites of grace that are actually mimics and will fight the player. Even better if they do it after a deathblight swamp area
I just love DS2 apologists trying to justify this in the comments. Flat earther levels of cope right there, when you see something happening right before your eyes, but still deny its reality. "You're in the Company of champions/didn't level ADP/have your hands touching the mimic, so this thing where you get teleported into a mimic's mouth from behind its ass didn't happen. Also it's your own fault for not dodging, it's a good thing that it happens because it adds challenge, and it happened in other Souls Games (trust me bro)".
@@bigslappy823 I thought teleporting DS3 dogs were a joke but here I am, trying a broken sword run and nearly throwing my controller out the window on my way to Pontiff before I got his shortcut... absolute hell. Still would do that again before dealing with DS2 jank haha
Literally don't know why ppl hate ds2 and think its hard, i had a blast. The mimics caught me off guard once like this but never made the same mistake again.
The more I'm watching these videos, the more I start thinking of diabolical intentions of whoever tf designed the Scholar. Like fr, I have NEVER had such issues in the original game. Maybe I just raised my ADP to 30 too quickly, but seriously, any time I got hit, it was my fault. A Pursuer NEVER had to miss me to stab me with his curse thrust attack. But then I am watching videos and realizing that people are not lying about shitboxes either. Which begs a question: why is that even happening in the first place?
lmao I feel you. Yeah I played the original without lving anything in adp and I bought sotfs recently and did the proper leveling in adp and you know what? I didn't really see much difference
Essentially, the player is getting hit by an active hitbox on some frame, but there's no animation for glancing blows or weird positioning, so it just locks into the grab animation and looks jank af.
i tried getting into ds2 on computer and the fact that you cant set your heavy attack to shift + m1 made me leave immediately. I don't want to fry all of my muscle memory from the 2 other games, and apparently ds2 isn't the greatest anyways (from what my friends told me )
@@theoneandonlykraken It is my least favourite by a mile but for some damn reason I keep going back to it. I want to hate it, and mostly I do, but I can't bring myself to stay away. Is this how a toxic relationship feels?
No, no, it doesn't. Showing that hitbox is, indeed, there, in no way addresses the criticism that it shouldn't be there. Nor does that video add any new information. Anyone can figure out that the player getting hit means there was a collision with a hitbox.
@@lambtrash if I had a nickel for every ds2 player who can't defend his own position... I would be broke, because no one plays that shitty game anyway.
Sort of, but half the challenge is remembering to check. If you remember to try attacking it, then being penalised the same as just going up and opening it makes actually no sense. Literally 0 justification for this as a design output
Ds3 mimics didn't have this wake up grab bs hitbox issue and they still offered a passable challenge after you woke them, what kind of argument is this?
@@lordsoybo6727the hitboxes are fine, he just had his hands in its hit box which triggered the grab animation. Our argument would be the hitboxes are TOO good.
This has nothing to do with the hitbox, but rather behavior/collision related, the hitbox is fine, the problem however is that the mimic detects the player at the front (because his hitbox is there) and acts the way it was programmed, one possible solution here would be to make the arms unable to trigger the mimic, or add invisible collision behind or around the chest so that the hitbox never reaches the trigger area @@Dry-Turkey
this, the weird big mouth poop lizards, and the falconers are the only enemies in the game that I actually have major complaints about. the game is still better than ds1 by far (aside from adaptability)
You see stuff like this in DS3 and ER, too. It’s because a hitbox is actually a sphere in 3D games. I get hit while behind enemies in DS3/ER from time to time. 3D games don’t care about positioning, if you get hit by the sphere, it will trigger the damage, or in this case, reposition the actors for the grab animation.
And this is not true. I don't know what you mean by "a hitbox is actually a sphere in 3D games". A hitbox is an invisible detector that exists in both the enemy and the player, if the enemy's hitbox connects with the player's hitbox, they will take damage, the same around. When an attack happens, a hitbox is put around the part of the attack's animation that is supposed to be what deals damage, in most cases, a weapon. So if by attacking a mimic from behind it and he jumps forward, you are NOT supposed to be hit by it's hitbox, if it was correctly placed around what MAKES SENSE for it to be.
@@renanleandro5914 They're shaped like spheres in 3D games, it's not a box. There's plenty of videos on this very site that demonstrate this, so instead of writing all that you could have seen a vid or two. Look up "Dark Souls hitboxes visualized" and you'll find quite a few channels that demonstrate exactly what they look like. Hitbox is a term that just got carried over from 2D games, because the pixels were square shaped. In all the 3D visualizations of "hitboxes" they are all spherically or cylindrically shaped, with rounded ends. Domo3000 has been pumping out Dark Souls hitbox visualization vids every day the past couple weeks. They're all spheres or cylinders.
@@renanleandro5914 you are wrong, the r2 attack of that weapon leans the arm forward, the arm has hurtbox and the hitbox of the mimic´s attack touched the tip of the arm prompting the animation, the hitbox in this case is completely correct, what would be a fix for this is to create a logic to ask whether the body is behind the mimic or infront. But i dont think a dev would actually think of this , this is something so unique to happen , you have to time the r2 perfectly in sync with the mimic. This situation happens maybe once every 10000 times. Not worth the devs time
wym by is not true? he described exactly how 3d colliders work, only thing, that he is wrong is that he said that hitbox are spheres in 3d games, when they can be boxes, 3d cylindres(aka beans), but the hit box collision for the mimics grab is a 3d sphere, thats why you are grabbed when you are behind him, but it is like you said, if the hit box was placed correctly that would not happen, but it is a darksouls games, i guess it needs to hard/unfair/punishing. there is a channel, domo3000, he shows ds2/3/ER hit box, if the mod show correctly, most of enemies/bosses hitbox on the series, ds2 being the with less bs, aside from grabs, ex: hitbox activating before getting momentum, having hitbox where it should not have, hitbox being bigger than needed and others . ua-cam.com/video/zGGk8xS-y3g/v-deo.html this videos shows the hitbox for mimics grab
You imagine how janky and unfair it would feel if in ds3 the mimic grab attack they do after you wake them up still hit you while you're behind him even tho the attack animation is him specifically grabing someone that is directly in front of him? That's what this is my guy
Most people that complain a lot about ds2 hitboxes are only salty because of the adp mechanic ( that which is a bit off ). This is NOT one of this cases.
It's a hitbix problem, would be a spacing problem if after knowing the mimic does the bite grab attack once you hit him he stayed on front of the mimic, directly where the bite is supposed to land, insteas he stayed behind the mimic, and still got hit
While i love bashing on Dark Souls 2 hitboxes and this whole shit game done by the B-team, i'm more upset about the level design on this video. It's such an empty hallway with nothing in a castle filled with more nothing created by a japanese guy who have never ever seen Europe medieval in his life. To be fair, this game level's designs are the worst in the series, it's just a generic fantasy game instead of a medieval fantasy game.
I really dislike that in ds2. When you enter an area you have this majestic view of the area and then it's just basically a empty area with some enemies here and there, drangleic castle even has empty rooms, anor Londo in ds1 had a hunting room, bedrooms, a storage room, it even had a church in a room. It's a shame, because areas like heide's tower of flame could have been so much better than just some ruins and a couple of halls inside the tower.
@@JohnLucasV that’s your opinion. I think the gameplay is great and its way faster than ds1 and more engaging. I think it’s personally an amazing game, the best of the 3
@@ChadLeorio It's not my opinion. The game is way slower than the others and that's a fact. The character is slower in ds2 than ds1 from opening a chest to picking up an item and that's just a fact. That's one of the reasons why most people dislike the game so much.
@@JohnLucasV and I happen to like it, just because it’s a fact it’s slower doesn’t mean the game is objectively worse. It’s just a matter of opinion, there’s no such thing as an objectively bad game. As long as even one person enjoys it, it’s good in its own right.
@@leadfaun fall damage or lethality and what you can, can't and should jump on are often inconsistent and ranbow stones are unable to be used for falls that require jumping
(without having played DLC, which is usually the pinackle of any souls game),bosses are boring and uninteresting, healing system and dodging sucks. enemies are reptetive, and walks to the bosses sucked and were needlesly long@@bagredecartola1289
Anyone who complains of anything in a souls game, doesn't deseve to play a souls game they have not increased vigor, endurance, adaptability in real life. Even if the player character dies while seeing the menu page, i wouldn't complain.. that is the way it is.. Welcome to Dark Souls.
When your hit boxe touch the ennemi ‘s hitboxe, the 2 players are hit. It’s not a hitboxe issue, it s the same in all Souls games. You were too greedy here
If someone doesn't want to face a mimic, they should use a Lloyds Talisman and stop whining and/or looking for attention from other people who are also incapable of thinking their way through a game. Being a generic DS2 hating reddit using circle jerking zombie muppet is wilful delusion. I don't use a shield, how can I be defensive 🤔
Everyone knows you don't stand behind a mimic in ds2... hit boxes are easy to deal with.. I still think ds2 is an amazing game and will die on this hill
Everyone knows to play around the jank, doens't mean the jank goes away, i love ds2 despite it's flaws but excusing bad game design cause you like something is peak clown behaviour
ok but tbf almost every dark souls game has a fair amount of jank. you just kinda get used to it and forget it's there (except when the mimic grabs you from behind thats just kinda funny)
I have a fair few problems with some parts of DS2, but most of my issues are things that are present in every dark souls game most of the things I dislike about DS2 and things I dislike about DS1 and DS3 too
@@Mare_Man Nah magic builds were way cooler in 2 than you're giving them credit for. You had weapon and shield catalysts, proper hybrid builds that actually worked, attunement was a useful stat, there were good pure int and faith weapons, and it was viable in PvP. Definitely not a perfect game, but being a mage was a thousand times more fun compared to 3 where magic feels like a total afterthought and hits like a wet fart.
noone seems to realise that ds2 was made by fromsofts B-team. it was basically a side project. stop shitting on it because miyazaki wasn't involved. while we're at it, ds3 is not by any standards easy. just to stir up some more fromsoft-sexuals.
DS2 hitboxes are actually great, theres a video breakdown that proves it. What happened here was your hands clipped into its hit box, triggering the animation that plays when it surprise attacks and eats you. Its annoying, but doesnt mean the games hit boxes are bad.
@@andresospina6596 This is what people mean when they say "bad hitboxes". They don't mean that the hitbox itself sometimes detects you and sometimes doesn't, they mean that it does not accurately reflect the animation. We can't see the hitbox. The animation serves as a proxy for it. If the hitbox does not match the animation, it is a bad hitbox.
Ds2 only having like 2 mimics gave me trust issues
U are so bad playing
it's always fun going into the next ng cycle and not being sure which chests got turned into mimics this time
Probably enough to make you question everything
Dark Souls 2 doesn't have chest chains to distinguish mimics? In Dark Souls Remaster and 3 I have never received an unexpected mimic since I found out about the chain(If the chain is forward, then it is a mimic, if the chain is hidden under the texture, then it is a mimic that Miyazaki disguised
There are a a dozen of them in DS2 SoftS
They give you a whole space to attack it from behind and the jank makes it so you get grabbed anyway. Bravo, B-team.
Hit the side.
@@BoneWalker Doesn't work. They have a big circular hitbox arounde their grab, so you'll get grabbed regardless of which position you stand near them.
There is no need to get greedy with mimics, hit them once and wait for them to jump then finish them off.@@user-qd5lb7qr8z
@@user-qd5lb7qr8zuse a longer ranged weapon.
@@memenazi7078 I don't think most use a bow and arrow out of Amana, besides spells ofc. The point is, if you use melee and don't know about that, you're dead.
This is the exact mimic I’ve had the most trouble with so far
I see a ds2 video with a mimic in the thumbnail. I know exactly where this is going.
Yes it is going to be about DS2 and have at least 1 mimic in it. Wow, you really are intuitive.
He became a crab just to shit on you more
"just lvl adp"
I've beat the game multiple times and still think adp is useless just time it
so when we say "lvl adp" thats bad, but when everyone said "get gud" that was cool and based? yikers.
@@angrymedic3803 yes, because "lvl adp" is saying "hey its not ur fault ur bad, just level a stat" while saying "git gud" is implying a skill issue. They have completely different implications. The main issues that people have with adp is that the bad hit boxes still exist even while leveling it. It is a stat that doesn't warrant its own existence because it's functionality is obtuse and only works as a fix SOME of the time.
@@Megazoic.I was able to pass Dark Souls 2 only with 10 adp points and never suffered from the so called "bad hit boxes" so....
Get gud
Ds2 doesn't have any more bad hitboxes than the other games, this myth is annoying and the game should be critized for legitimate shortcomings
Bro was literally hugging the chest and is still wondering why he got hit...
See, this could have been avoided with only the slightest of effort, by just having it deal damage without activating the grab animation. No one would be complaining at the mere fact of you taking damage from standing behind a mimic while the limbs explode out from it, that would have made perfect sense.
Hey, I dealt with it by doing it from the side and now i’m going through undead crypt rn
Bro what are u doing here 😂
Am a big fan of your projects btw
@@oldits4tea929 Hello! It's nice to be recognized even outside of my usual niche.
@@Nitsua2841 No need to get defensive bro, I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't dissing you, but the developers of that terrible grab hit box.
He was saying the devs should have made the fail safe a knock back attack from the limbs bursting out instead of a visually jarring 180° grab with its mouth.
@@sasaki999pro oh nono I was giving an update thats all. And I have also beaten the game now and starting a new run into DS3!
The main menu theme song though...
“You just have to level your ADP stat”🤓
should've leveled ADP smh
I died to this same one, the same way
Ds2 made its hit boxes almost like Miyazaki was absent.... oh wait.....
Exact same fucking thing happened to me on the exact same spot.
_ggs_
problem is that even the body parts are included in the catching hitbox... dont stay close fellas!
That is smt that i acually like, cus the first time you see a mimic you open it n die and when you go get revenge the game hits again
The same thing happened to me back on release week. Also looking back I didn’t understand ADP thinking you just had s and this being my first souls games made me think I was just bad at dodging.
My agility is at 97/98, I have the “recommended” ADP leveling, but guess what? Those hit boxes are still a bitch, particularly The Imperfect’s dark orb ranged attack.
Try doing a no adp run. That shit was terrible
i didn't know what that did in my first play through played the entire game up until the dlcs without skilling it@@Nitsua2841
Personally, I had more fun before I knew about adp than after I leveled it up, which was after killing fume knight. I guess thats because I loved that I had to use every single dodge at the perfect timing
Recommended is 105/106
@@Nitsua2841that was my first playthrough, I didn't know about ADP back then.
This specific one gave me trouble too
mt top esse dakisouls 2gostei muito e marcou minhas ferias pra sempre!💙💙
Freren would never stand a chance.
My bullshit detector is off charts
I wonder if they bring thrm back for Shadow of the Erdtree
I hope! Or some crazy variant of them
I would love for them to do something with the mimic bonfire concept. Throw in a few sites of grace that are actually mimics and will fight the player. Even better if they do it after a deathblight swamp area
I once got grabbed from the side...
That thumbnail looks so fuckin terrifying for some reason damn man.
I just love DS2 apologists trying to justify this in the comments. Flat earther levels of cope right there, when you see something happening right before your eyes, but still deny its reality.
"You're in the Company of champions/didn't level ADP/have your hands touching the mimic, so this thing where you get teleported into a mimic's mouth from behind its ass didn't happen. Also it's your own fault for not dodging, it's a good thing that it happens because it adds challenge, and it happened in other Souls Games (trust me bro)".
mimic moment 😂
С рапирой против мимиков никаких проблем не было. Тут скорость атаки решает. Ну и у рапиры ещё и урон не маленький.
Not Great but Curved i'd say
This game's jank is unmatched ❤
Not even the teleporting DS3 dogs can hold a candle to the 2 arrow shooting, poop walking Falconers.
@@bigslappy823 I thought teleporting DS3 dogs were a joke but here I am, trying a broken sword run and nearly throwing my controller out the window on my way to Pontiff before I got his shortcut... absolute hell.
Still would do that again before dealing with DS2 jank haha
Literally don't know why ppl hate ds2 and think its hard, i had a blast. The mimics caught me off guard once like this but never made the same mistake again.
Same thing happened to me
Haha the same happened to me 😂😅
I had the same thing 🙃
the only game where you gotta actually have to roll to get away or die
lmao
And people still think this game is actually good. smdh.
The more I'm watching these videos, the more I start thinking of diabolical intentions of whoever tf designed the Scholar.
Like fr, I have NEVER had such issues in the original game. Maybe I just raised my ADP to 30 too quickly, but seriously, any time I got hit, it was my fault. A Pursuer NEVER had to miss me to stab me with his curse thrust attack.
But then I am watching videos and realizing that people are not lying about shitboxes either. Which begs a question: why is that even happening in the first place?
lmao I feel you. Yeah I played the original without lving anything in adp and I bought sotfs recently and did the proper leveling in adp and you know what? I didn't really see much difference
Essentially, the player is getting hit by an active hitbox on some frame, but there's no animation for glancing blows or weird positioning, so it just locks into the grab animation and looks jank af.
@@MBGrothAnd it essentialy is a problem of grab animations. From what i saw, it happens mostly with the stab grabs and the mimic grab.
i tried getting into ds2 on computer and the fact that you cant set your heavy attack to shift + m1 made me leave immediately.
I don't want to fry all of my muscle memory from the 2 other games, and apparently ds2 isn't the greatest anyways (from what my friends told me )
@@theoneandonlykraken It is my least favourite by a mile but for some damn reason I keep going back to it. I want to hate it, and mostly I do, but I can't bring myself to stay away. Is this how a toxic relationship feels?
Lol, just level up ADP
XD yeah, that shit happens, learned not to do that.
I thought that item you picked up said amber heard
If you watch the youtube video that visualizes the hitbox it makes absolute sense sorry to say
No, no, it doesn't. Showing that hitbox is, indeed, there, in no way addresses the criticism that it shouldn't be there. Nor does that video add any new information. Anyone can figure out that the player getting hit means there was a collision with a hitbox.
@@Spellweaver5 git gud
@@lambtrash if I had a nickel for every ds2 player who can't defend his own position... I would be broke, because no one plays that shitty game anyway.
wow amber herd is in this?
I mean mimics wouldn't be an issue at all if you could just kill it before it can even turn around
Sort of, but half the challenge is remembering to check. If you remember to try attacking it, then being penalised the same as just going up and opening it makes actually no sense. Literally 0 justification for this as a design output
@@poopsmith890 that makes no sense
@@krod4278 poo poo poo
Just put them to sleep first.
Ds3 mimics didn't have this wake up grab bs hitbox issue and they still offered a passable challenge after you woke them, what kind of argument is this?
The moment you join the Company of Champions is the moment you lose your right to complain about the game.
NGL you have a point \_(ツ)¯\
Eh, it doesn't change hitboxes.
Based argument. I hate DS2 haters. Problem is its become popular to just hate the game so people find any reason to.
@@lordsoybo6727the hitboxes are fine, he just had his hands in its hit box which triggered the grab animation. Our argument would be the hitboxes are TOO good.
This has nothing to do with the hitbox, but rather behavior/collision related, the hitbox is fine, the problem however is that the mimic detects the player at the front (because his hitbox is there) and acts the way it was programmed, one possible solution here would be to make the arms unable to trigger the mimic, or add invisible collision behind or around the chest so that the hitbox never reaches the trigger area @@Dry-Turkey
this, the weird big mouth poop lizards, and the falconers are the only enemies in the game that I actually have major complaints about. the game is still better than ds1 by far (aside from adaptability)
Skill issue
You see stuff like this in DS3 and ER, too. It’s because a hitbox is actually a sphere in 3D games. I get hit while behind enemies in DS3/ER from time to time. 3D games don’t care about positioning, if you get hit by the sphere, it will trigger the damage, or in this case, reposition the actors for the grab animation.
And this is not true. I don't know what you mean by "a hitbox is actually a sphere in 3D games". A hitbox is an invisible detector that exists in both the enemy and the player, if the enemy's hitbox connects with the player's hitbox, they will take damage, the same around. When an attack happens, a hitbox is put around the part of the attack's animation that is supposed to be what deals damage, in most cases, a weapon. So if by attacking a mimic from behind it and he jumps forward, you are NOT supposed to be hit by it's hitbox, if it was correctly placed around what MAKES SENSE for it to be.
@@renanleandro5914 They're shaped like spheres in 3D games, it's not a box. There's plenty of videos on this very site that demonstrate this, so instead of writing all that you could have seen a vid or two. Look up "Dark Souls hitboxes visualized" and you'll find quite a few channels that demonstrate exactly what they look like. Hitbox is a term that just got carried over from 2D games, because the pixels were square shaped. In all the 3D visualizations of "hitboxes" they are all spherically or cylindrically shaped, with rounded ends. Domo3000 has been pumping out Dark Souls hitbox visualization vids every day the past couple weeks. They're all spheres or cylinders.
@@renanleandro5914 you are wrong, the r2 attack of that weapon leans the arm forward, the arm has hurtbox and the hitbox of the mimic´s attack touched the tip of the arm prompting the animation, the hitbox in this case is completely correct, what would be a fix for this is to create a logic to ask whether the body is behind the mimic or infront. But i dont think a dev would actually think of this , this is something so unique to happen , you have to time the r2 perfectly in sync with the mimic. This situation happens maybe once every 10000 times. Not worth the devs time
wym by is not true? he described exactly how 3d colliders work, only thing, that he is wrong is that he said that hitbox are spheres in 3d games, when they can be boxes, 3d cylindres(aka beans), but the hit box collision for the mimics grab is a 3d sphere, thats why you are grabbed when you are behind him, but it is like you said, if the hit box was placed correctly that would not happen, but it is a darksouls games, i guess it needs to hard/unfair/punishing. there is a channel, domo3000, he shows ds2/3/ER hit box, if the mod show correctly, most of enemies/bosses hitbox on the series, ds2 being the with less bs, aside from grabs, ex: hitbox activating before getting momentum, having hitbox where it should not have, hitbox being bigger than needed and others .
ua-cam.com/video/zGGk8xS-y3g/v-deo.html
this videos shows the hitbox for mimics grab
A mimic never grabbed me while i am directly behind him in ds3, tf you on about? Straight up lying
Well deserved, guy was basically at the Mimic's ass, what did he expect!?
To not be eaten because the mouth is in front and not behind the mimic, basic logic.
You imagine how janky and unfair it would feel if in ds3 the mimic grab attack they do after you wake them up still hit you while you're behind him even tho the attack animation is him specifically grabing someone that is directly in front of him?
That's what this is my guy
Most people that complain a lot about ds2 hitboxes are only salty because of the adp mechanic ( that which is a bit off ). This is NOT one of this cases.
With so many videos featuring this exact same scenarios, I'm surprised people still make this mistake lmao
That's not a hitbox problem, thats a spacing problem...
It's a hitbox problem.
It's a hitbix problem, would be a spacing problem if after knowing the mimic does the bite grab attack once you hit him he stayed on front of the mimic, directly where the bite is supposed to land, insteas he stayed behind the mimic, and still got hit
While i love bashing on Dark Souls 2 hitboxes and this whole shit game done by the B-team, i'm more upset about the level design on this video.
It's such an empty hallway with nothing in a castle filled with more nothing created by a japanese guy who have never ever seen Europe medieval in his life.
To be fair, this game level's designs are the worst in the series, it's just a generic fantasy game instead of a medieval fantasy game.
I really dislike that in ds2. When you enter an area you have this majestic view of the area and then it's just basically a empty area with some enemies here and there, drangleic castle even has empty rooms, anor Londo in ds1 had a hunting room, bedrooms, a storage room, it even had a church in a room. It's a shame, because areas like heide's tower of flame could have been so much better than just some ruins and a couple of halls inside the tower.
Looks like a skill issue. Git gud.
Dark souls players trying to understand concept of spacing and hurtboxes [impossible].
And there's people who try to defend this game...
Cause it’s a great game. The hit boxes aren’t the issue, it’s the janky animations that make it look like a hit box issue
@@ChadLeorio And the slow af boring gameplay. It's a bad game.
@@JohnLucasV that’s your opinion. I think the gameplay is great and its way faster than ds1 and more engaging. I think it’s personally an amazing game, the best of the 3
@@ChadLeorio It's not my opinion. The game is way slower than the others and that's a fact. The character is slower in ds2 than ds1 from opening a chest to picking up an item and that's just a fact. That's one of the reasons why most people dislike the game so much.
@@JohnLucasV and I happen to like it, just because it’s a fact it’s slower doesn’t mean the game is objectively worse. It’s just a matter of opinion, there’s no such thing as an objectively bad game. As long as even one person enjoys it, it’s good in its own right.
It's something you can learn unlike eldan ring kill boxes
Kill boxes?
@@leadfaun death pits, eldan ring doesn't know what it wants to be and never adjust to what it is
@@asherroodcreel640 still have no idea what you mean.
@@leadfaun fall damage or lethality and what you can, can't and should jump on are often inconsistent and ranbow stones are unable to be used for falls that require jumping
@@asherroodcreel640 do you have an example?
Dark souls 2 is actually better than bloodborne imo
You've lost your marbles, it's overhated but saying it's better than bloodborne is headscratching
@@bagredecartola1289 bloodborne is overrated
@@ILoveLuhaidan elaborate.
(without having played DLC, which is usually the pinackle of any souls game),bosses are boring and uninteresting, healing system and dodging sucks. enemies are reptetive, and walks to the bosses sucked and were needlesly long@@bagredecartola1289
Anyone who complains of anything in a souls game, doesn't deseve to play a souls game they have not increased vigor, endurance, adaptability in real life. Even if the player character dies while seeing the menu page, i wouldn't complain.. that is the way it is.. Welcome to Dark Souls.
I wish you were my spirit animal
That's the dumbest thing i've ever read
Lmao ok buddy
woke + based + not biased + wisecel + cool + persecuted madmen
This game is pure trash.
When your hit boxe touch the ennemi ‘s hitboxe, the 2 players are hit. It’s not a hitboxe issue, it s the same in all Souls games.
You were too greedy here
In ds3 the mimic grab attack doens't land if you're behind the mimic even tho you're touching his hitbox, stop lying to excuse janky hitboxes
@@sator2766Did you seriously go through and reply to 80% of the comments on this video just to shit on ds2?
@@BoneWalker yes.
Funny thing is i like this piece of shit, play it at least once every 2 months
@@sator2766 Lol
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Mimics are mimics, there are no rules.
This is not just a Dark Souls 2 issue regardless of generic people hating on the game.
This is absolutely just a Dark Souls 2 issue, this is the only game where this happens
@@renanleandro5914 yeah, mimics are perfectly normal in DS1 and DS3 because reddit says DS2 has ganks and wasn't directed by daddy foot fetish
Least delusional Ds2 fan
least defensive ds2 fan
If someone doesn't want to face a mimic, they should use a Lloyds Talisman and stop whining and/or looking for attention from other people who are also incapable of thinking their way through a game. Being a generic DS2 hating reddit using circle jerking zombie muppet is wilful delusion. I don't use a shield, how can I be defensive 🤔
skill issue
On the dev's part
Everyone knows you don't stand behind a mimic in ds2... hit boxes are easy to deal with.. I still think ds2 is an amazing game and will die on this hill
Not everyone knows the game is terrible and that you can't stand behind the mimic even though the mouth is in front.
Everyone knows to play around the jank, doens't mean the jank goes away, i love ds2 despite it's flaws but excusing bad game design cause you like something is peak clown behaviour
ok but tbf almost every dark souls game has a fair amount of jank. you just kinda get used to it and forget it's there (except when the mimic grabs you from behind thats just kinda funny)
I have a fair few problems with some parts of DS2, but most of my issues are things that are present in every dark souls game
most of the things I dislike about DS2 and things I dislike about DS1 and DS3 too
You didn't even dodge 💀
Dodge?????? Where to?????? In what reaction time????
Of course my reaction to a thing launching a attack in front of it while i am directly behind it it's to dodge expecting i will somehow get hit
Still better than DS3
Looks like a skill issue
It's janky sure, but I still enjoyed ds2 for It's own original take on dark souls. And the magic in ds2 is superior to any of the other games.
The only decent thing DS2 magic has going for it is catalysts that cast multiple kinds.
@@Mare_Man Nah magic builds were way cooler in 2 than you're giving them credit for. You had weapon and shield catalysts, proper hybrid builds that actually worked, attunement was a useful stat, there were good pure int and faith weapons, and it was viable in PvP. Definitely not a perfect game, but being a mage was a thousand times more fun compared to 3 where magic feels like a total afterthought and hits like a wet fart.
Nope dark souls 2 is great actually you're just bad of you get hit actually the other dark souls games are worse because dark souls 2 is good
noone seems to realise that ds2 was made by fromsofts B-team. it was basically a side project. stop shitting on it because miyazaki wasn't involved. while we're at it, ds3 is not by any standards easy. just to stir up some more fromsoft-sexuals.
DS2 hitboxes are actually great, theres a video breakdown that proves it. What happened here was your hands clipped into its hit box, triggering the animation that plays when it surprise attacks and eats you. Its annoying, but doesnt mean the games hit boxes are bad.
Getting grabbed simply because your hand or whatever clipped through while you're standing directly behind it sounds like a BAD thing.
seethe fanboy
The hitbox itself is working fine. Is more a design flaw, that should not be a radial hitbox that extends behind the mimic.
@@andresospina6596 This is what people mean when they say "bad hitboxes". They don't mean that the hitbox itself sometimes detects you and sometimes doesn't, they mean that it does not accurately reflect the animation. We can't see the hitbox. The animation serves as a proxy for it. If the hitbox does not match the animation, it is a bad hitbox.
@@batrachian149 oh I know, it's just that some people don't realize that little detail so I pointed that out.
Skill issue
Skill issue