Australian NBN Comparison, FTTP Setup & Mate Communicate Review
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- NBN is Australia's National Broadband Network offering speeds of up to 100Mb/s, in this video we take you through all the different deals out there. How to setup a FTTP connection at home yourself using your own router, and most importantly, why we went with Mate Communicate and our experience with them.
DEALS
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WHERE TO BUY
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COMPARISON OVERVIEW
Telstra - Capped service
MyNetFone - Brand issues
SpinTel - Capped service
dodo - Poor reviews
TPG - Poor reviews
Mate Communicate - 4.4/5 star reviews
AusBBS - Good deal, but poor website and comms
MyRepublic - Great deal but average reviews
EXPERIENCES
Please note, all experiences listed below have been taken directly from the comments section below and have not been personally vetted. The only one I can speak for is my personal experience.
To help, I've included a ** in the questionable statements as they seem a bit dubious and may be from sponsored agents.
Mates FTTP - Getting 5-91Mb/s on the 100/40 plan - Cairoloves
iinet FTTN - Getting 65Mb/s on the 100/40 plan - Another Skywalker
Optus Cable - Getting 8/0.6Mb/s on the 100/2 plan - Mewth16
Spintel NBN - Getting 5.3Mb/s on the Basic plan - Doctor Thomas
Telstra Cable - Getting 35Mb/s on the 200gb plan - kolray25
**Telstra - Getting 99MB/s on FTTN - Paul Diaz
Optus - Getting 43.3/18.8 Mb/s on 50/20
**Aussie Broadband - Getting 90-100Mbs on the 100/40 HFC plan - Electronic Shaman
Aussie Broadband - Getting 97Mbs on the 100/40 plan - StoneyF1
MATE COMMUNICATE - INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
When signing up the only hidden charge was the $300 hit for installing NBN in a new build. I've heard that Telstra salespeople offer to waive the charge if you sign up for a 24 month deal with them, but with Mates, as their package is month to month, refused to compromise. Furthermore, as NBN hadn't been used in our flat before, setup was a bit confusing as we didn't realise that there was a router inside our apartment already, but after a bit of googling you just plugged the RJ45 cable into the NBN router and connected it to your own router. If you're going with a BYOM solution, you'll of course need your own RJ45 connector.
Once it was up and running we've been hitting a solid down and upstream, which was GREAT coming from an ADSL background.
MATE COMMUNICATE - AFTER 6 MONTHS
We've been using Mates for over 7 months now. Initially the service was super-fast, but after the 4 month mark, things started to feel slower. I've done some further testing and it seems that when pinging servers in the UK during peak hours I now get around 5MB/s, and servers in America get me 30MB/s, but servers in Australia are still 90+MB/s, so it's not all bad. The issue could be that perhaps more units in my block might have also upgraded to NBN or they too do the nasty on you and degrade your service after 4 months. But either way, they're still charging me $99 per month while my service has degraded. It's disappointing, but on the positives we're on a month by month contract so switching will be easy. Hey, I might even try the whole ADSL route to see how it compares to NBN, so if anyone has any recommendations please let me know.
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One tip
"iinet FTTN - Getting 65MB/s on the 100/40 plan - Another Skywalker
Mates FTTP - Getting 91MB/s on the 100/40 plan - Cairoloves
Spintel NBN - Getting 5.3MB/s on the Basic plan - Doctor Thomas
Telstra Cable - Getting 35MB/s on the 200gb plan - kolray25"
In computer data metrics when you are abbreviating mega bits per second the correct format is Mbps or Mb/s (M - Mega, lower case b - bits, and obviously ps or /s - per second) but in your chart you have used a capital B EG "65MB/s" which actually means mega bytes per second (M - Mega, upper case B - Bytes, and obviously ps or /s - per second).
There are 8 bits in 1 byte, byes being the official measurement of storage mediums and bits being the official measurement for a network or other data transfer connection, even though both megabytes per second and megabits per second can be and often are used to measure network speed depending on the application there is a significant difference between the two and should not be confused.
If you were actually getting 91 MB/s (megabytes per second) then your internet connection would have to be a minimum of 91MB/s x 8 = 728 Mb/s (megabits per second) in speed which is closer to 1gb/s (or 1000mb/s) internet like google fibre in the US.
It's a very common misconception made by people as lots of apps like for example steam and google chrome both use megabytes per second as the default download speed measurement and I often see people saying something like:
"well i have an adsl connection, speed tested it and my speed test says i have 8mbps download yet when i download a game on steam it says I'm only getting 1 mbps?"
What they don't pay attention to is that steam is actually measuring download speed in megabytes per second which once again is shown as a capital B in MB/s in steam which they don't take note of they just see the letters MB/s and assume it means megabits per second when in fact its not its megabits per second its megabytes per second. Hence the 8 bits in one byte simply multiply the 1 MB/s they see in steam by 8 times and this gives you the 8Mb/s megabit measurement that matches the speed test they did displayed in megabits.
So yeah sorry for the long winded reply but its very important to know the difference between the two and not to use a capital B when your referring to megabits per second. :3
No worries, and thanks for the correction. I have a first class honours degree in Computer Science, so I deserve a double down vote for the typo.
Nah no down vote needed at all for a typo just many people dont know the difference between bits/bytes and is a common confusion for people :3
You're cool, have you considered doing some tech videos on UA-cam?
years ago i thought about it but it was too hard on adsl and now I finally have nbn I'm not sure if its worth it with the youtube space being so over crowded :P
Though there may be viewers interested in tech stuff like common misconceptions with general tech and more specifically nbnco tech.
Can you recommend some good tech channels to watch? I seem to always come across the same maybe 10-15 people. A lot of the reviewers are very sponsored and only go where the money is (it makes sense, doing it professional takes a lot of time and doesn't pay much on YT), so topics like this one are under-serviced.
I'm and I.T. Engineer
I'm about to go onto MATE COMMUNICATE, installation is happening 4th July 2017
i'll also be checking them out
and am happy to share my results with you guys
Nice one, can't wait to see your results.
Martin Kuliza I'm sure you being an it engineer somehow makes you adept at knowing every little thing about a technology company 😂
Martin Kuliza how did it go?
Thanks so much for demonstrating set up! The Optus instructions weren’t very clear that we had to open up the FTTP NBN box to find Uni-D1. Almost had to pay a technician call out fee! Bless!!
This might be the solution. No more waiting for game downloads and installations. No more Ping lag on US servers. Freedom.
I hate when people in games say, " OMG my ping is lagging OMG!" But actually, their ping is around 20 - 35.
So grateful I've found this video so my dad can stream Cricket and I can play games!
I am moving to a house where FTTP connection box is installed in a garage. If I place my router in the garage I don't think I will get the best access to the whole house.
The house does have built-in ethernet in all rooms and living room. could I connect my router to that?
Depends on how your house is setup, do you have a ethernet port patch panel from where the FTTP box is to an area closer to your computer? If so, then yes you can connect the relevant port from the FTTP box into the ethernet patch panel, then connect another cable from the out slot closer to your computer into a wifi router there.
Thanks. Will put update on 4th of March. Thats when im moving :D
Kite how’d it go? What are the speeds like
You missed the best - Aussie Broadband. Unlimited = congested. ABB is a bit more expensive for 1TB or higher if want 100/40 speed, but worth it. 50/20 1TB is around the right cost for most people - $85 for 1TB 50/40. I have a 3 person sharehouse with the other 2 being light users and me heavy, I use around 400GB a month and they use around 250 between them. So never more than 650GB generally. I pay $92 for 600GB 100/40 and then change plan if run out last few days to 1.4TB 50/20 for $91. They are worth the extra for great service and consistent good speeds/lack of congestion, great o.s. pings. You should have considered Optus as well - I hear they are bad/congested but the price is ok. There's also Skymesh but while they USED to be good a year ago, since they sold to overseas owner they have gone to balls.
I've heard good thing about Aussie Broadband, need to try them out next, do you know if they have an unlimited data plan?
I went with ausbb after previous provider increased their price. I now pay $65/month unlimited 25mbps. No set up fee. No contract. No new modem had to be purchased. No problems so far. I also have FTTP. I'm happy
Dammit, maybe I should of given them a try. Can you let me know what speeds your getting?
You can find out by going to speedtest.net
Not Speed test dot net use testmy.net
Cairoloves speeds always 23-25Mbps when I test. Had a couple of drop outs but a modem reset fixed the issue. Only issue is trying to contact them. Long wait time but they do offer call back service
my brother works for nbn so he can look at who is the best in what location.
Where can I buy the enclosure you have for this nbn router?
She's a keeper mate, she knows what she's talking about 👍
Since the router is near the nbn box, do you get strong signal throughout the house?
That is pretty good, Aus copper is really getting pushed to the limits 100Mbps over VDSL2?
Not really.
My NBN speed has recently increased and now runs at between 30 and 40 mps.
Trouble is it drops out most days sometimes intermittently sometimes completely.
I live in Murray Bridge. With Optus.
Thanks for the report Peter Pan
Ditch Optus since they oversubscribe their network. take a look at aussie broadband, they're aussie owned and run company who are transparent about their network, you can see daily stats about their national network to get an idea about congestgion
Can I pit the modem/router in my room or does it have to be near that nbn device ?
Mate. I need help with connecting the network ports that I got with the wall-mounted NBN box. I have 6 network ports in the NBN box that run all over the new house. I have only 4 ports in my router so should I use a switch. From the NBN modem to the router and from router to the switch and connect all the network port to the switch with network cables. After doing that I have run into a problem like I computer connect to the internet. but other ones are not on the switch per port you have two lights all of them there are only one light blinks. Help please much appreciated.
Let's see how good "Mates" will be after first 6 months, TPG and DODO both have this way of reducing speeds after first 6 months (Personal Experience with TPG and one of my mates working for DODO). Im not trying to say one connection is better than the other, I usually consider Internet speed, Continues Stability, customer service, Resolution time. Telstra sometimes sucks but it's the most reliable connection i ever used besides Mobile Broadband. Also would like to point out the fact that Telstra and Optus are the ones who maintain the main Network for rest of the Broadband providers. Also speed testing sites cannot be compared with realtime usage when you connect few devices to the same wifi or wired network.
I totally agree, it's been about 4 months with them so will hopefully remember to let you know after it hits 6. Speeds seem fine so far with Mates. Good thing is that it's a month to month contract so if it ever drops, I guess I can always switch. Which network would you recommend? The only one that tempts me is MyRepublic.net as their prices are very good.
So they did slow ya down at 5 !!
When the NBN is rolled out in my area next month, i will be getting the HFC connection instead of FTTP/FTTN. Do you think it's still worth it to pick Mate's highest speed package? I have no idea what speeds I would get with any of them. I just don't want to pick a speed package higher than their base one if I end up not getting speeds anywhere near close what's advertised. I don't know what connection type I have but I currently get about 6/0.8 with Optus.
I used to be on that speed at my last place which had ADSL only (that's why I was using an ADSL/VDSL router in the video). I personally went with the soulmates package as I'm a heavy internet user, and am getting around 90% of what's advertised with FTTP.
In your case as it's HFC, it'll depend on how many people will be sharing the connection, also the way the sharing algo works, it takes the speeds away from the most heavy users to even things out, so if you're on the top speed, when someone else starts using the internet, it'll take your speed away first, whereas if you're on the slower connection, you'd notice drops less, but of course never get the top speeds. In which case, if I was you I'd go for the 2nd cheapest option (25/5) and if you're not happy with the speeds, you can always bump up the package as it's a month to month contract. If you do, please let us know how fast you get too, to help other people out.
Optional Karma Points: If you sign up and mention "Ash 550746" in the sign up notes I'll get a refer a friend coupon.
Also, for the cheapest deal check out MyRepublic.net (I couldn't go for them as they didn't serve my area, but they might serve yours), the reviews online aren't as good as Mates, but they're not the worst.
It's really annoying they can get away with that! We should at least get a partial refund for the difference in speed they advertise vs deliver.
@Another Skywalker
"if you decide on the 100/40 top speed and just for argument sake are only getting a top speed of 25mb/sec, switching to the cheaper 25/mb plan may only yield speeds of 15mb/sec!?"
Nope wrong if your on the top plan (100/40) and can only get a max on 25mbps then you are being limited either by the length of copper cable in the case of FTTN (happens all the time not just in peak) or possibly limited by CVC or HFC congestion (usually only happens in peak times say when everyone comes home from work at around 5-9pm and uses bandwidth).
So it wouldn't matter if you were on 100/40, 50/20, 25/10 or 25/5 you would still get the same 25mbps download speed. Changing the plan speed down wont limit it further beyond the bottleneck that you already have.
The best way is try the top plan first and see what you get for both peak and offpeak times then if you are limited by sumthing choose the plan that matches the limit.
EG if your on FTTN and your line is long and you cant get any faster then say 40-50mbps download all the time then drop down to the 50/20 plan since the 100/40 plan is a bit of a waste though one thing to note you will probly get slower upload speeds so if upload speed is important then keep the bigger 100/40 plan. all kinda depends on the individual situation.
You should go with Mate Communicate I did 70 bucks but mine is ADSL even though 2 streets away it's FTTP fucking sucks my internet speed is a CONSISTENT 4mbps it doesn't drop down like OPTARSE does on optus the speed was 1.4mbps to 234bps which is FUCKED on ADSL
Go Aussie broadband they offer 250mbps download and 100mbps upload not many providers offer this speed tier
LOL
But not everyone NEEDS that type of speed
Thanks mate! I tried to set up using Archer VR300 with Mate on FTTP but couldn't get the internet set up. Key step missing was changing the operation mode to "Wireless Router Mode" instead of "DSL Modem Router Mode". Everything else was as described in the email.
I actually signed up to mates communicate after 1 year of dropouts from iinet, (I think the copper line is rooted) then I changed my mind and got a 4G wireless connection. I contacted Mates Communicate and the listened to my story and allowed me to cancel my order with them no penalty. So they are pretty good in my book. I don't know how good their internet is but they are better than the money grabbing scabs they are competing with.
True, True - At least they give a bit of a damn they told me how it sucked that I was on fttn
Wireless connection? What’s that
First of all thx for the video, very informative.
Now this may seem like an uneducated question but how do i get a NBN connection box?.
Sorry if this question has been ask before.
Cheers mate.
my internet is so slow i cant watch this video
I did exactly this with my uncle and found that mate was the best.
I used to work for Telstra, lots of people are still confused about FTTN and FTTP, when NBN places optic fibre to a DA, which is defined by what's called the distribution area labelled the DA, the cabled area is all the premises which are cabled from the same cabinets/pillars, those DA's are going to be taken out of service by Telstra on copper cables, you cannot have the 2 systems side by side, no company is going to service cables and equipment when not many people are left on it, once NBN takes over a DA there is a general time limit to be connected, there is no option 2, the government as per usual have not a clue about telecommunications and how the system works, its a complete waste of money and resources to keep the copper network which is obsolete, the only way to go is FTTP.
Thanks so much for this info!
Carioloves, pleasure, additional information is the DA also covers a particular area of normally up to 200 customers, so a person living in a suburb can have the NBN and his neighbour on the opposite side of the road is without, its due to that person being in a different DA, the DAs are cabled in blocks to suit the underground infrastructure, we had some excellent cable designers, the one I knew in Launceston was given a redundancy due to centralization, the telecommunications joke continues.
Yeah I have VDSL and it's super shit, not reliable at all cuts out all the time and I was told I would get around 80mbps and i get 30 best down FTTP is the way to go if you can get it (just another way people are trying to save money with FTTN)
You missed aussiebroadband? I'll take a cap over congestion every day. I'm only on HFC though, not fttp. That said, I'm getting 90-100/35-40 24/7 so I'm pretty happy. What's sad is that your fttp is crippled to the same speed.
Nice one, will add your experience to the description above. Will have to try them out and do an update video soon.
Aussie BB with FTTP and I am in love. No issues, no worries, great call centre staff and tech support and great pings. Can't ask for much more :)
What is rg45 cable , does it have to be that cable or it can be normal cat6 cable ?
Hey mate, RJ45 is the cable connector, Cat6 is the cable. So altogether it'd be RJ45 Cat6.
I had my republic. It is really bad for gaming, because it has a lot of packet loss so it makes it impossible to game on. When nobody is using the net it’s fine. But when somebody gets on the internet it goes to shit. And they never answer the phone, now I’m getting mate hopefully it’s good.
Thanks for letting me know, I was looking into MyRepublic. Mate was great for the first few months, but then it did start to slow down. I'm not sure if it's because they slow down users after a few months once you're comfortable and too lazy to switch or just more people started switching to NBN. The good thing is that it's at least a month to month contract so if they do slow you down you can always switch.
Ash and Nora as long as the ping stays low then I’m happy cos with my republic the ping is very high.
I looked at it because they were going to bring in / were testing a gigabit plan. Which sounds ace as they were trying to do it affordable for the residential users. But I heard not a great network.. and I need good pings and stability/ no jitter or packet loss. I think for smaller/newer companies like MyRepublic they start out good when not many people in your area are using it, then go to crap once they become popular/advertising spreads and they have more uptake.
Hey mate, what are you’re thoughts on iiNet nbn in Victoria ?
Ur one of the lucky ones to get FTTH. I have HFC which is no where near as bad as FTTN but not as good as FTTH
Is HFC at least cheaper? What kind of speeds are you getting?
You didn't explain if Mates gave you a modem and you went with a router instead, also the router doesn't give you a phone connection? on its ports, plus in Aussie we say router not rooooter :)
Home phones are pretty dead nowadays.
DAMN , I pay 39$ for a 500Mbit connection here in Germany...
Daymnnn son, party at your house!
does that get you fibre to your house
dylan Yes
That's nothing mate...What about 1gbps in Portugal for 38,9euros ;) ua-cam.com/video/cCcJOD02rEA/v-deo.html
I pay $80 for a full gigabit in Hong Kong lmao
I assume you have fiber to the premises correct?
Yep FTTP, what kind of connection do you have?
I will have to the Node if i decide to leave the safety of ADSL2
Unless there's some sort of financial incentive to switching, I'd just stick to ADSL2 as I hear there's lots of problems with Node.
In the description I've added the commenters who have reported their FTTN speeds.
iinet FTTN - Getting 65Mb/s on the 100/40 plan - Another Skywalker
Spintel NBN - Getting 5.3Mb/s on the Basic plan - Doctor Thomas
**Telstra - Getting 99MB/s on FTTN - Paul Diaz
I left in the comment by Paul Diaz, but I wouldn't trust it as it's a bit unbelievable, probably a sponsored actor. 65 Mb/s is more achievable, but I imagine this report was from off-peak usage, and when everyone in the neighbourhood is connected, I imagine it to not be so fast.
What kind of speeds are you getting with ADSL2 here? (You can check by going to speedtest.net)
A good ADSL2+ connection is probably exactly the same as FTTN .. considering you're using copper after the node anyway lol. So it means you have good connection to the exchange.. and then ADSL2+ level or worse from the exchange to anywhere in the world and back again heh
I am with myrepublic and I have 1.31Mbps down and 2.43Mbps up. They don't respond to emails and they are very slow
What did you expect?
MATE COMMUNICATE - AFTER 6 MONTHS
We've been using Mates for over 7 months now. Initially the service was super-fast, but after the 4 month mark, things started to feel slower. I've done some further testing and it seems that when pinging servers in the UK during peak hours I now get around 5MB/s, and servers in America get me 30MB/s, but servers in Australia are still 90+MB/s, so it's not all bad. The issue could be that perhaps more units in my block might have also upgraded to NBN or they too do the nasty on you and degrade your service after 4 months. But either way, they're still charging me $99 per month while my service has degraded. It's disappointing, but on the positives we're on a month by month contract so switching will be easy. Hey, I might even try the whole ADSL route to see how it compares to NBN, so if anyone has any recommendations please let me know.
I honestly say never cancel your plan until you sign up for a free month trial on another service, on port 2 or 3, in order to concurrently do speedtests at peak hour to 'prove' the ISP you were with is crap. Then you can ask for instant cancellation/no 30 day wait and/or possibly a refund for the month you've paid already etc. I had to do this with FTTP between TPG and Skymesh in 2013 (before Skymesh went to crap) and was pretty easy to prove how bad the TPG nbn network was. I highly suggest trying Aussie Broadband from personal experience, or Telstra from reports of good international pings and peering.
vpn router helps if the vpn has good speed to overseas link
and you cant go back to adsl once you take up nbn
I recommend AussieBroadband. Been with them for a while now, best ISP. They've got a special deal running right now that you can try it for a month, and you can run it along side your current MATE connection. forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2623849
After the nbn box do I need a modem or just a router?
Just a router mate, the one I used listed in the description is a bit overkill because it's both a modem and router.
Cairoloves - Ash & Nora Thanks.
I havent been able to get a definitive answer from my provider.
I've only just signed up and I get the feeling they just want me to buy their modem router combo.
I can get a lot better for the price though.
Is AusBBS Yeah the Bleep one) the company that is trying to copy AussieBB ?
hi i have no idea how will be work with (fiber to node )fttp is the best end off line only with optus ,dodo it is SH.....T
hell yeah that first test at 93mps... congratulations you're 1% of the 10% that got good internet in australia.
We went with Vodafone, mainly due to the bundle and save deal...so far so good, and the speed is what we're paying for...
Can't believe this video was 7 years ago and ppl are still only getting FTTP if available
Dude, your video is very misleading - when you opened the cupboard you showed us that you have FTTP
not FTTN which is the technology that most Australians are complaining about.
In other words you have a full blooded fibre optic connection not the half baked crap fibre/copper
network that the rest of us have to put up with for many years to come.
Am I right? Do you have FTTP?
Thanks for the tip, I've added FTTP to the title to help. Which provider are you with and would you recommend them?
Dude I am on Telstra Naked Cable right now have been since June 2013 35 MB/S
I want to transfer to the NBN but in my area which is Glenfield NSW it is FTTN only
and I am shit scared of signing up with any ISP and getting crap download speeds
worse than I have now. I am worried that if I leave Telstra cable I may not be able to get it back
you know what I mean.
I'm with you there, if I was you I'd just stick to the 35 MBs (unless you're getting bad speeds or the price is extortionate) as even with the 100 MBs package on FTTN you might loose up 50% of the speeds (there's some horror stories on whirlpool.net.au). At my last place I was on ADSL 5 MBs, so the jump to 100 MBs has been amazing, but I'd imagine 35 MBs to 100 MBs wouldn't really be as noticeable.
Yep I pay $69.95 per month for 200gb and the download speed never wavers from 35mbs.
When the NBN notified us in our area that the suburb was NBN ready which was in March
they told us we had 18 months to sign up to the NBN. After that our old connections (ADSL/Cable etc)will be disconnected. So I have until September 2018 on cable.
With some luck by that time the technology may have improved somewhat.
Better cabling? perhaps who knows.
Thanks for that info, that's a really good price you got there, I'm paying 50% extra for mine, so I'd definitely hold out till they force you off it. Apparently they're rolling out FTTC now to replace FTTN, which is in-between FTTN and FTTH/P, so next year will be a safer time.
You forgot about Aussie broadband
and iprimus
Thank you so much for this!
Thanks so much for the support
Optus is pre good in north queensland, may be different in other areas though
Nice one, could you let us know which package you're using and the actual speeds you're getting (you can find this out at speedtest.net)?
like 43.3mbps down/18.86mbps up on 50down/20up plan, which the test was on wifi standing next to router, might be even better on Ethernet maybe
Thanks so much!
I wish I had parents that cared this much about wifi
What does your parents use?
You should have gone with Belong (owned by Telstra) and month by month (also have contract option) and unlimited (no caps or peak times) on the fastest speed - for $100 a month and if you want a landline as well including national calls for $10 per month more. Offer includes modem but does not support 802.11ac, and only has 10/100 ethernet (no Gigabit ethernet) but you can use any Telstra modem instead of Belong's - just enter the username and password.
Thanks for the tip, will definitely consider them in future
I hear belong are terrible
Great video
Funny 😂 and Thank you Mate 😅
I'm using the best internet provider in Australia n that is Aussie broadband
Malcolm Turnbull promised 25/5. I am on Fixed Wireless and am getting 25/5. What is your problem???
Im with Optus on a 100/40 HFC NBN plan and im getting the speed promised. I dont care about online reviews as they don't consider that different areas will have different experiences with speeds as well as areas using different nbn technologies such as fttp, fttn, hfc etc. People with FTTN technology will have bad internet speeds regardless of provider and i do feel sorry for them..
Keep in mind if people are happy then they are much less likely to review something like this compared to if they are unhappy. And a lot of positive reviews especially for smaller providers could be fake. I haven't had any problem with TPG on FTTN.
100% agree, any chance you can let us know which package you picked with them and your real up and down speeds (you can find out using speedtest.net)?
No Testmy.net
I just signed up with Belong Internet in the Carlingford area. Heard gd things so we'll see how it goes. I'll let u know once its connected.
Nice one! Can't wait to see how it goes for you.
your getting 80mbps download? we get 980--1000mbps in NZ...yerrrrrrr baby..now thats fast.
you guys got any room for one more ? i'll live in christchurch!
Yeah don't rub it in arsehole!
ive been with aussie BB since having nbn
iinet? internode?
I think that $300 is charged by nbnco not the ISP
LETS BE MATES is a sponsor for product review . just saying...
How did you find that out?
if you look up internet service providers on Product review, the first choice is Mate and a yellow banner advising that it is sponsored. I love Product review and it was the first place i checked out. and it still doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of people very happy with the Lets be Mates service.However there appears to be a lot of other companies sneaking up in the ratings as well. All small Australian companies with Australian call centres and much better customer service. That is the key. We should all vote with our feet and march away from Optus and Telstra and try something different.
Thanks so much, I didn't realise, I hope they don't pay people to post reviews. I'm going to try out another service soon to give a personal comparison.
i look forward to your review.
Why are you comparing NBN? It's not the #1 provider of Internet. You'd best use TPG's Fibre-To-The-Building FTTB or TPG's Fibre 400 or Fibre 1000 service as they're pure fibre optic without any copper connections to the building. No one would use NBN when they have another choice lol.
Wow, that'd be a dream setup, but the minimum cost is $17,999.40... Happy to accept donations.
Where Optus they are 2nd biggest telco in Australia
Nice one, do you have any experience you have with them you can share?
Optus are fucking HORRIBLE FUCK OPTUS and FUCK SINGTEL which is OPTUS!
faizan joyia he is from NT NO OPTUS THERE lol
I have been with optus for my home phone and net service for years !! As they have always been best all up value for money !! And have just connected to hfc nbn with them and still the same !! I called to connect 1 week later all up and running !! Next door connected threw telstra and it ended up taking 8 weeks for them to even get connected !!! My optus plan is unlimited calls and unlimited data on 50/20 speed pack witch is way more than i need for now !! All for $100 a month
I hear optus *can* be good depending on the congestion at your exchange. If you live in a small area they are probably great, inner city, probably not so much
ROOTER.... Seriously
Mate......... say it with me ok
ROW...TER ok Router
Rhymes with BOW.. TER
ROW.... BOW.... COW ... got it... ROUTER
Gratsi for the free English lesson
Bow and Row don't even rhyme with Cow what the fuck.
Jander Games
ok, it's people like you that seriously make me question my faith in humanity.. seriously..
i mean.. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING
i guess not..
OK let me be clearer
Now.. let me also say, i should not have to go to this level
YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING
so...
1. Bow and Cow.... DO ACTUALLY RHYME what the fuck are you on about ?
you can BOW to someone to show respect
you can milk a COW
they both used the ending OW which is like saying... OWWW I HIT MY FUCKING FINGER WITH A HAMMER
GET IT...
now... ROW sure... does not rhyme with COW
because you ROW a boat
but, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE SOUND ASSOCIATION THAT I PUT IN PLACE WOULD BE REALLY REALLY REALLY FUCKING KINDERGARTEN LEVEL OBVIOUS
so.. let's do this again
it's spelt as
ROUTER
when we split the word up into 2 it's like this
ROU TER
NOW if it was called a Bouter
it would be pronounded
BOW TER
so. it should be obvious that pronounce it correctly
you can say
ROW TER
and ROW (in this context is pronounced phonetically as
ROW.. as in to rhyme with WOW and HOW and POW
get it....
ROW TER
seriously..... was all this necessary
let me know if anything is still unclear
but,
COW does Rhyme with BOW mate
what drugs are
actually it also rhymes with ROW
but you could also pronounce it as ROW as in row row row your boat
so, i'll give you that one
but Cow and Bow Rhyme
WTF
Cairoloves
PREGO :P
Martin Kuliza yeah you should of been more clear as bow can also rhyme with row as in a bow and arrow you fucking degenerate
If you have a new home and never connected NBN before, the $300 exists for all service providers looking to provide you an NBN service.
with Telstra and love them FTTN 99Mbps Speed your FTTP ? what the hell why is it slower then FTTN >
99Mb/s at FTTN.... which package are you on?
how did you miss all the other providers? so your review is invalid
you missed at a minimum (and even i will miss some)
adam
westnet
internode
iinet
nuskope
skymesh
optus
belong
Nice one, I just listed the top rated ones, not all.
alright mates, if you want to join up on the high speed bandwagon, first you need to move to Australia ~GL!
Serious I would be fkn pissed with those costs, I currently have 1Gbit FD (Full Duplex) from Telia (Swedish ISP) and I pay $45/mo, we're a bit spoiled I guess...
We don't have any data limits either.
They also cap our mobile data bandwidth too over here, so you can't get unlimited plans. The deals are alright, I'm paying around $30 p/m for 10GB.
Our internet is F*cking garbage!
anyone have hfc coz i’m not sure if i should wait or get it. god i hope it’s better than fttn
I'm going to be using Telstra cause their max gb are 4000
Nice one, if you let us know how it goes when it's connected I'll add you into the description section to help out others.
im getting 23.8mbps on a 25/5 plan with iiNet FTTN
Aussie Broadband all the way
Hello to all who have great internet speed.I live in Iraq and pay $35 and get like 100Kb/s these days.The speed I suppose to get is 3Mb/s for $35 but due to issues as our internet services are facing so many problems we get only around 100Kb/s, lol the fastest speed you can find in Iraq cannot pass 10Mb/s for 24hrs as you can barely get around 2-10Mb/s and usually end up with 1Mb/s or 2Mb/s and less.But now in 2018 from Jan till now we have 100Kb/s due to the issues I mentioned early and we as gamers we are not having a great life here :D
im with myrepublic. paying for the 100/40 plan and getting 80mpbs peak hour and about 90-100 normal time and 26-34 up. everyones experience is different dont just go with reviews. also if you get higher speed plans you need to make sure you dont have FTTN. with fttn you most likely wont get 100/40 maybe like 70/20.
Thanks for the tip mate
haha omg some isp is still using pppoe? :D
Which protocol do you use?
the other one probably lol
a lot do tho
So, data caps count the upload too?
In Germany it only counts the download.
Seems like Australia really fucked up.
At least the weather here is nice
The rooter???
ROO ARGH 🏴☠️
You can't compare Telstra to other lower tiered companies. Telstra has the best offshore links they are consistent. They don't use sucky vocus as a backbone nor are they affected as much as others when it comes down to congestion during peak times as they don't offer "unlimited". Due to the pricing for the cvc no company should offer unlimited and if they do it's suspect. Many many many caveats when it comes down to the nbn. From the avaible technology to the actual rsp that handles the connection. Cheaper isps might not have a pop in all major cities. So your traffic for instance may need to go from Sydney to melbourne (where the pop is located) back to Sydney before it travels its destination.
Honestly if Telstra ran a smear complain explaining the nuances of their network and the advantages over the other players people won't write it off like they have done so in the past
Mate uses M2 as their backend which uses both Telstra and Vocus. When I had a connection that used Vocus my overseas traffic was abysmal and proved impossible to stream overseas live tv. Also my Facebook videos stuttered. UA-cam was great though. Every isp has little caveats like that. If all you do is access national data then I'll say go with whomever you want. If you want to use the actual internet then I'll say you need to do your research
Thanks for the commentary. I haven't had any problems with Mates yet, but its interesting to know about the Vocus backend. The main reason why I had to discount Telstra is that they capped their internet bandwidth at 1TB.
Cairoloves so does every other isp that isn't on unlimited. Sky mesh has a bigger cap and Aussiebroadband are going to bring bigger ones. The cvc pricing necessitates it (every Mbit of the service costs the isp $17.50). Now tell me how an unlimited service deals with that burden. I'll tell you. It oversells itself and the service goes to literal shit when more and more people use it. The current model is unsustainable. Either you pay peanuts and get monkeys or you pay through the nose for a decent connection.
It's always been polly greed and red tape in this country. Even the way they handled the handover of the network is suspect. Nbn bought the network from Telstra for billions and now Telstra are the maintainers of their previous network. Win win triple win for Telstra.
m.imgur.com/a/pEsoZ
That's good to know, I guess if Mates ever do get overcrowded, its just a month-to-month contract so I can always jump ship. Are there any other providers other than Telstra you can recommend? I'm particularly looking for something that doesn't cap the bandwidth.
Cairoloves that's a hard one. How about I recommend ones to *avoid*
My Republic
AusBBS
Possibly dodo
Optus would be good but people seem to not like it (people never liked it)
Tpg - they own iinet, internode, aapt and westnet - people don't like them. But my neighbours are with iinet and when my Internet goes down, there's is still up
If you are looking for local support fast support then I wouldn't recommend the tpg or optus route. Smaller ISPs are better in that regard. If you are just looking for speed during off peak then you can go with any isp. If you want stability then avoid those first two
It depends on what you want
For instance I'm with a company called Aussie broadband. They have great local support all in Australia. They are pricey at $100 1tb 100/40. They're international links are good but they're UA-cam streams can be slow (they are from what I gather peering and don't have a direct UA-cam link)
They get about 70mbps when it's peak time. At my exchange I do notice drops during the wee hours of the morning at around 2am. My friend has a optus connection and he also says he experiences frequent drops. Maybe it's my area.
Best would be to ask technically inclined neighbours if they are happy and what they recommend as the service can vary drastically from place to place
sometimes you pay for what you get
nice video james franco ...
Thanks mate
you do realise that all NBN services use the same network. all services should be the same providing its not congested.
I think the NBN is a big scam because I've been using ADSL for 15 years in the outback and was extremely happy with the speed and their services and after moving to a new residence in town I find the NBN is the same speed as the ADSL.
You're right mate, a lot of NBN doesn't use the faster FTTC or FTTP connection, but FTTN - which depending on how far away you are from the node can be very similar in speed to ADSL.
Please don't blindly follow this video, unlimited plans are more often than not the worst option as they are abused, this causes problems for everyone, also don't go for cheap plans as the provider can't afford to buy enough bandwidth causing congestion, also all new lines connected will incur a ~$300 fee, but if you have FTTP/HFC or are replacing an existing ADSL connection you won't be charged the new development fee, if you want some real advise let me know
Nice tips mate, which provider do you recommend?
Cairoloves the 2 we keep coming back to are Aussie broadband and skymesh, the nbn is a seriously complex network and there are soo many costs involved for the isp, but most of the costs are public, for example if we look at my republic which is $59 for unlimited 100/40, the cost to just have the connection is $38, then they have to buy something called CVC, this is the bandwidth from your area(or Point of interconnect) to the isp, the cost for this is just over $15 per megabit and is shared between the users, so they need to buy $1500 of CVC for a single person to achieve full speed, now not everyone uses full speed at the same time so sharing that cost is fine but they do need to keep a under a certain ratio or users will experience congestion, if the isp buys 1mbit per user that would be a 100:1 ratio, this would be a bad ratio to have, if they buy 2mbit it would drop it down to 50:1 which might be enough for companies with lower data limits, in general the more they buy the better the service will be, but it is up to the isp how much or how little they buy, with companies like myrepublic once you factor in the service fee plus 1mbit of CVC is $53 which leaves $6, then they still have to pay for their POI inter connects and their internet backhaul, so for these companies to make any money hey have to cut costs by purchasing minimal CVC, and for unlimited plans they would need to purchase more CVC to compensate. Sorry for the info dump, I have been wading through the back end of the nbn for the last few months, hope this helps anyone who is interested
ABB +1 - Skymesh stopped buying enough CVC a year ago when international buyout, from my experience - was great from 2013 to start of 2016. Don't think going to change from ABB anytime soon :)
Almost every service in aus is amongst the worst, you should see the internationals when they use our internet, they just get confused at the cost to performance and wonder if we pay a percentage of the bill for the short fall....
Is there any service which you can slightly recommend? For me, it hasn't been that bad really, as in the UK I had ADSL, and it was cheap but very slow. At work we had BT Business Premium Super Fast Internet which cost a small fortune, but it was not suitable for business, every 8 weeks it'd cut out for a few hours due to unforeseen repairs. In Australia, so far FTTP has been pretty reliable, while too slow for 4K streaming, or 480p streaming international sites, Mates have only been down on me once for half an hour at around 5am.
Or you can come to South Africa 🙃 surfing on a 1000Mbps down 20bps up line
And it’s uncontended 🙃
Only 20Mbps up? Here in the UK you can get 1000Mbps down (or apparently 1124 - 1145 Mbps) and 52 Mbps up on Cable broadband and the best part is, congestion doesn't exist here (at least where I'm at)!
I am getting MyRepublic.
Nice one, please let us know how it goes once you have it up and running.
Good luck. Have read bad things. How is it going now?
Hello, have not got it yet due to usual NBN delays but should get it within 1-2 months. Just FYI I am getting FTTN and I am going with MyRepublic's 'Gamer plan'. Will tell speed, and about customer support if I end up needing it.
Ok, So recently I got switched over to MyRepublic NBN, I am on FTTN and I am getting 22-24 Down and 11 upload and I am pretty sure that NBNCO put me on the 25 plan because they are cheapskates, and at the moment I think I might be one of the only houses on the node I am connected to, when purchasing over the phone they only took a few minutes to pick up and the first guy was the usual indian but then he put us through to a good clear understanding person. Once I have contacted them saying it seems I am not on the 100/40 plan and the fix it, I will wait for more people to get on then I shall tell you the speed. Note: They switched me over on like Wednesday and it is Monday and their Modem hasn't arrived which would suck for others who don't have a compatible router, luckily I have Negear D7000 which worked straight away with MyRepublic. Also my ping is higher then ADSL2+ but the speeds have tripled. I also think my IP is a NZ not AUS one.
You shouldnt say something is bad unless you’ve actually tested it yourself
The whole system is fucked as once data from the fibre hits the node and goes into copper, the entire speed you can get is not only bottle necked but left up to varibles. How far are you from the node? What is the state of the copper from the node to your house? What is the state of your phone line within your house? You would have none of these problems with FTTH. You will never get 100MPBS with FTTN as the Libs promised us. I am flat out getting 30. We got a dud from what could have been a world leading service.
1 - MATE - What the hell is a ROOTER?...... :)
2 - MATE - Here In Australia we pronounce the word ROU -TER.......As......ROW -TER.........‘ROUT’ rhymes with ‘DOUBT :)
3 - MATE - If you are sponsored by Mate communications - then please say so in your introduction :)
4 - MATE - I have had Fibre To The Premises for nearly 2yrs , I had been with Internode (now unfortunately part of the mongrel TPG group) since 2007 when I was on ADSL which was great, but I got sick of the slowdown/congestion on the internet after 6pm since getting FTTP so I ditched them .
5 - MATE - There is only one ISP in Australia that makes special mention of maintaining decent CVC capacity - Australian-based Support - Australian Owned Infrastructure - Congestion-Free Network - and that ISP is Aussie Broadband.
Aussie Broadband $80 per month 100/40 Mbps... 500 GB and they have been true to their word I'm very happy with them so far, I'm getting a constant 97 Mbps + 24/7 no problems, no congestion at all... (And no I don't work for them or anything )
6 - Thanks MAAAATE :)
Nice one mate, I'll deffo consider switching to them as they're cheaper, please let me know how they go after a few months (I hear most services slow down after a few months). Will add your experience to the description.
Nice review hahahah
I have just signed up with Letsbemates for the Adsl2+ service based on their reviews. I hope they can provide better speeds than Iprimus with whom I was getting 8mbps max speed and averaging around 5-6 mbps which is a joke in 2017, Even back in 2012 i was getting 15mbps with Dodo but then year after year its been goin downhill. I think by the time I receive NBN at my place it's going to become out of date.
Hope it works good for you, I recently left Mates NBN for a Hotel Wifi provider called freedominternet.org and its actually pretty damn fast.
Rooter Baaahaa
watching hong kong man lol we are 1G download speed lol
Makes me miss Hong Kong man :)
MyRepublic were testing a gigabit plan but I don't think it panned out.. one decade maybe.. with so few people over a country the size of the USA it is hard to justify the costs to offer such a plan for a price residential consumers can afford/will pay
it was only one town and it was feasible only because nbn gave them huge concessions
James you can get 10G if you are willing to pay 3 grand HKD per month btw lmao
¥
How is it going bro long time! Are you still making games? It's Eddie remember when you came over to Leicester to talk about games :D Taaime World lol hit me up aeturay on Instagram
TPG best them all
log on to the rooter? hmmmmmmmm..
It's usually 192.168.1.1
What? I get unlimited data through Telstra with a phone line for $99
Checkout Exetel and Barefoot
Thanks!
exetel lmao they are a joke
Exetel was good before the owner died.
DCSI is the best ISP in Oz. 👌👈
Getting the best help from Optus now.
i gett 262 mbps and upload 241 mbps;)
RESPECT
Wtf did I just watch lol
At 2:36 i thought you said, lesbian mates...
lucky bastard!