I had a lot of discussion about Fritjof Capra's works, with my father who is a scientist and engineer himself. The one I remember the best is his "Tao of Physics" . Those were some of the best memories with my father, in my life.
Above comment is mine. Was logged in under partner. Ante so glad to see your comment. Faith and science are connected...this is an essential point of departure, as we humans seeks to unite and integrate...even within ourselves.
I have received the book from Amazon and I must laud it. It's the best what I ever could get my hands on about systems theory, very carefully researched and written, very comprehensive, very complete- and a fantastic bibliography on top of it. The authors have pulled all the registers to make a complex subject comprehensible even for graduate students. But the book is also an enrichment of any professional library! I will review it in my new book 'Fritjof Capra and the Systems View of Life' that I will publish on Amazon before the end of the year.
***** I read it in English, for I as much as I can avoid translations. It would astonish me that at this stage there are translations for the original version in English came out only in June this year, and there is so far only the hardcover edition. But if it's true, then it's most probably German (his mother tongue) and French.
Fritjof Capra accidentily stated that consciousness emerged 4 billion years ago with the Great Apes. Of course, this was likely an innocent mistake. Earth has been around approximately 4.5 billion years and the earliest ancestors of hominids evolved approximately 18 million years ago. I'm bringing this up so that anyone watching the video doesn't take that statement as fact. The evolutionary tree of the Hominoidea (emphasis on family Hominidae): after an initial separation from the main line by the Hylobatidae (gibbons) some 18 million years ago, the line of Pongidae broke away, leading to the orangutan; later, the Hominidae split into the tribes Hominini and Gorillini. Thus, his statement in this video that Great Apes evolved consciousness 4 billion years ago was clearly a mistake. Happy watching!
Very grateful for this lecture, especially as I am now reviewing the very book he is presenting and write a short biographical book about Fritjof Capra which contains a review of all his published books! Capra is one of the few scientists in the world who is able to think beyond the particular discipline that is his scientific specialization. In addition, he is able to explain complex realities in a language that every intelligent listener can understand, which is a sign of genius, in my view. For you can only explain something in easy words and a general language that you really have understood. I would never have understood the writings of Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela, was it not through the books of Fritjof Capra, especially his book 'The Web of Life (1997).'
Life as a process of cognition. Wow. What a wonderful notion, it helps a lot to understand more of evolution. It is indeed more efficient to look at life by this concept. Why do we need some peculiar random mutations, if there is much reliable instrument like cognition. I stopped @ 15:00 to reflect upon Fritjofs words. So, we can imagine how two different processes emerge in life and instead of seeing them through lens of struggle and survivor, we may look at them in the communication process, in the interaction process toward each other to coexist beneficially. But what are the causes of conflicts in the processes of cognition at any level? Why do conflicts arise and grow, if life is self-cognizant and self-fixing system or entity?
a great message of utmost importance which seriously needs to improve on delivery. We can't just rely on a few intellectual elites scattered around the globe to change the world. We need to connect to the masses to implement all these theories. How about some drawings, animations and infographics? Or hiring someone with a more compelling way to speak?
"Quantity of Mass" is in fact a Holographic System in that the Mass Inertia of a piece of "Matter" is dependent on the Mass Inertia of the whole Universe, Mach's Principle.
Wholes are ever greater than the sum of their constituents. Life is top down, not bottom up. Life functions consciously and unconsciously simultaneously. Therefore, consciousness is how something does something (adverb) - not what something is (noun). Reification is a logical fallacy.
The challenge is how to bridge the gap between academia and the masses? This systems view has to be taught from Kindergarten all the way thru Academia, which means it may take a generation to sink in. Without the help of our political leaders, UN, NGO's, IMF or World Bank, the process of convincing everyone could be too slow as we are in fact standing at a tipping point.
Thank you for sharing this very inspireing ideas. It seems that the "cognitive process" and the cognitive ability of human's mind are similar to the meaning of the soul. In Slavic languages "the soul" has a very wide meaning and represents the spiritual, emotional, psychical part of human's activity as well as the cognition. Anyway there are links between values, emotions, creativity, cognition, conscience, mind and soul. The net of this ideas participate in a cognitive process and constitutes dualistic concept of humans nature (body and soul). Is the soul replaced by cognition?
Great work ! network and simbiosis are the biggest force of evolution, that discribes a high stage of evolution in a win-win situation in a nature of cooperation of individual networks. That means optimum allocation of natural ressources. Darwinism is from this point of view a low stage of evolution in a win-loose situation of competition. That means a inefficient allocation of natural ressources. What i am missing in this theorie is the economic view of life, wich is very important to understand, because it has so massive impact of our life. We can choose between a economy wich is regulated by force of the state, party dictatorship, bureaucracy, parliamentarianism, tax extortion, regulation and privileges to the rulers and their friends, wich all based on coercion in win-loose situations and leads to a low stage of evolution. And on the other hand a free society of a network of individuals on a free market, free comunication and voluntary echange and win-win situations that leads to a high-stage of evolution. Not the thinking of a possible economic infinite growth is the problem, its the coercion exercised by goverments and politics, wich is in fact nothing else than masked violence. The austrian economics and scientist like Adam Smith, Murray Rothbard or Hans Herrman Hoppe have already discribed, but they never saw it in realation with the Nature on this level as Fritjof did in his "sistems view of life" i hope that Fritjof will add this important detail.
The talk was really good and the things mentioned are of crucial importance to our existence. One thing stands out as probably wrong though, he made too much of a strong link between consciousness and mammalian self-awareness. By many cognitive scientists this would be wrong. A bat, a snake, a frog and a shark are most probably conscious as well.
Dear Mr. Capra, I disagree with you in two aspects. 1. It is not systems per your conclusion, rather it should be nature view of life- makes more meaningful. 2. Please do a bit more investigation, who brought up "nature" in to the centre of the reality. You will get the better insights. That helps us getting the ultimate work from you. Your best is yet to come.
Nature will continue to sustain life...should mankind become a threat to that ability, mankind will be eliminated by those same sustainability mechanisms....time for mankind to let go of its self entitled, self appointing and self promoting Master of the Universe badge
We are in the fortunate position to observe the emergence of the next specie from us....although our ability to conceptualize the qualities of this new species is about the same as monkeys abilities to conceptualize human qualities
The Web of Life è disponibile in Italiano. Non sono sicuro del titolo in traduzione, ma ho letto anni fa in Italia. Un libro incredibile. Anche, The Tao of Physics è disponibile in Spagnolo e Italiano.
dr gustav Eckstein did nice reflection on the term brain verse mind, brain/rain mine/mind differential. bifurcation precipitates L-field . system symmetry y symmetry t electric magnetic waves cosmological constant cycles per second of letters y~t symmetry. ottffssent number theory sacred numbers 0~9
Unfortunately, yes. Because what Mr Capra proposes requires all of us to be on the same page. Take a look around you in the world today,.....are we even close.........?
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I had a lot of discussion about Fritjof Capra's works, with my father who is a scientist and engineer himself. The one I remember the best is his "Tao of Physics" . Those were some of the best memories with my father, in my life.
Every indigenous community knows this and has been trying to teach us this for decades, if only we'd listen.
Capra does know what is life much better than many others, because he connects faith and science.
Yes! Complementary and interdependent, such as they, such as we.
Above comment is mine. Was logged in under partner. Ante so glad to see your comment. Faith and science are connected...this is an essential point of departure, as we humans seeks to unite and integrate...even within ourselves.
Faith in what? I have faith, but not in anything supernatural though like the afterlife, heaven, hell, God, angels, demons etc.
Glad I found this. So admire and have affection for Fritjoff Capra since forever!
I have received the book from Amazon and I must laud it. It's the best what I ever could get my hands on about systems theory, very carefully researched and written, very comprehensive, very complete- and a fantastic bibliography on top of it. The authors have pulled all the registers to make a complex subject comprehensible even for graduate students. But the book is also an enrichment of any professional library! I will review it in my new book 'Fritjof Capra and the Systems View of Life' that I will publish on Amazon before the end of the year.
***** I read it in English, for I as much as I can avoid translations. It would astonish me that at this stage there are translations for the original version in English came out only in June this year, and there is so far only the hardcover edition. But if it's true, then it's most probably German (his mother tongue) and French.
There is an Italian edition - hardly surprising, as he co-wrote it with an Italian colleague.
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Randomness is complexity that has not yet been understood
Fritjof Capra accidentily stated that consciousness emerged 4 billion years ago with the Great Apes. Of course, this was likely an innocent mistake. Earth has been around approximately 4.5 billion years and the earliest ancestors of hominids evolved approximately 18 million years ago. I'm bringing this up so that anyone watching the video doesn't take that statement as fact. The evolutionary tree of the Hominoidea (emphasis on family Hominidae): after an initial separation from the main line by the Hylobatidae (gibbons) some 18 million years ago, the line of Pongidae broke away, leading to the orangutan; later, the Hominidae split into the tribes Hominini and Gorillini. Thus, his statement in this video that Great Apes evolved consciousness 4 billion years ago was clearly a mistake. Happy watching!
Just when i caught that error and was scrolling to see it someone too got it.
I half way through reading "Synergetics" by Buckminster Fuller it seems very similar to what Capra talks about here -
Very grateful for this lecture, especially as I am now reviewing the very book he is presenting and write a short biographical book about Fritjof Capra which contains a review of all his published books! Capra is one of the few scientists in the world who is able to think beyond the particular discipline that is his scientific specialization. In addition, he is able to explain complex realities in a language that every intelligent listener can understand, which is a sign of genius, in my view. For you can only explain something in easy words and a general language that you really have understood. I would never have understood the writings of Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela, was it not through the books of Fritjof Capra, especially his book 'The Web of Life (1997).'
Love this video. Thank you Fritjof. So rich, will listen again and again. : -)
Life as a process of cognition. Wow. What a wonderful notion, it helps a lot to understand more of evolution. It is indeed more efficient to look at life by this concept. Why do we need some peculiar random mutations, if there is much reliable instrument like cognition.
I stopped @ 15:00 to reflect upon Fritjofs words.
So, we can imagine how two different processes emerge in life and instead of seeing them through lens of struggle and survivor, we may look at them in the communication process, in the interaction process toward each other to coexist beneficially.
But what are the causes of conflicts in the processes of cognition at any level? Why do conflicts arise and grow, if life is self-cognizant and self-fixing system or entity?
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Necessary friction to change I assume. A necessary metamorphosis for a better emergence. Maybe it's only perceived by us as conflict.
What a great talk!! Just excellent!
a great message of utmost importance which seriously needs to improve on delivery. We can't just rely on a few intellectual elites scattered around the globe to change the world. We need to connect to the masses to implement all these theories. How about some drawings, animations and infographics? Or hiring someone with a more compelling way to speak?
Great lesson!
Thank you
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Absolutely my page speaks of something similar
"Quantity of Mass" is in fact a Holographic System in that the Mass Inertia of a piece of "Matter" is dependent on the Mass Inertia of the whole Universe, Mach's Principle.
Wholes are ever greater than the sum of their constituents.
Life is top down, not bottom up.
Life functions consciously and unconsciously simultaneously. Therefore, consciousness is how something does something (adverb) - not what something is (noun). Reification is a logical fallacy.
The challenge is how to bridge the gap between academia and the masses? This systems view has to be taught from Kindergarten all the way thru Academia, which means it may take a generation to sink in. Without the help of our political leaders, UN, NGO's, IMF or World Bank, the process of convincing everyone could be too slow as we are in fact standing at a tipping point.
Thank you for sharing this very inspireing ideas. It seems that the "cognitive process" and the cognitive ability of human's mind are similar to the meaning of the soul. In Slavic languages "the soul" has a very wide meaning and represents the spiritual, emotional, psychical part of human's activity as well as the cognition. Anyway there are links between values, emotions, creativity, cognition, conscience, mind and soul. The net of this ideas participate in a cognitive process and constitutes dualistic concept of humans nature (body and soul). Is the soul replaced by cognition?
Terrific!
Great work ! network and simbiosis are the biggest force of evolution, that discribes a high stage of evolution in a win-win situation in a nature of cooperation of individual networks. That means optimum allocation of natural ressources. Darwinism is from this point of view a low stage of evolution in a win-loose situation of competition. That means a inefficient allocation of natural ressources. What i am missing in this theorie is the economic view of life, wich is very important to understand, because it has so massive impact of our life. We can choose between a economy wich is regulated by force of the state, party dictatorship, bureaucracy, parliamentarianism, tax extortion, regulation and privileges to the rulers and their friends, wich all based on coercion in win-loose situations and leads to a low stage of evolution. And on the other hand a free society of a network of individuals on a free market, free comunication and voluntary echange and win-win situations that leads to a high-stage of evolution. Not the thinking of a possible economic infinite growth is the problem, its the coercion exercised by goverments and politics, wich is in fact nothing else than masked violence. The austrian economics and scientist like Adam Smith, Murray Rothbard or Hans Herrman Hoppe have already discribed, but they never saw it in realation with the Nature on this level as Fritjof did in his "sistems view of life" i hope that Fritjof will add this important detail.
The talk was really good and the things mentioned are of crucial importance to our existence. One thing stands out as probably wrong though, he made too much of a strong link between consciousness and mammalian self-awareness. By many cognitive scientists this would be wrong. A bat, a snake, a frog and a shark are most probably conscious as well.
Dear Mr. Capra, I disagree with you in two aspects. 1. It is not systems per your conclusion, rather it should be nature view of life- makes more meaningful. 2. Please do a bit more investigation, who brought up "nature" in to the centre of the reality. You will get the better insights. That helps us getting the ultimate work from you. Your best is yet to come.
Some basics of systemic thinking - the web of life.
A great palate cleanser.
Great talk.
why kindle version is not available? please, do that if it is possible
is this book available in german?
Nature will continue to sustain life...should mankind become a threat to that ability, mankind will be eliminated by those same sustainability mechanisms....time for mankind to let go of its self entitled, self appointing and self promoting Master of the Universe badge
We are in the fortunate position to observe the emergence of the next specie from us....although our ability to conceptualize the qualities of this new species is about the same as monkeys abilities to conceptualize human qualities
Refer to the definition of evolution put forward here by Capra...forever increasing levels of complexity
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Ho bisogno da leggere su Capra ma in lingua italiana o spagnola.
The Web of Life è disponibile in Italiano. Non sono sicuro del titolo in traduzione, ma ho letto anni fa in Italia. Un libro incredibile. Anche, The Tao of Physics è disponibile in Spagnolo e Italiano.
"...and what we need now is political will an political leadership". Just here is what we do do not have. So... what, dear Mr Capra?
But isn't this Sanity!
dr gustav Eckstein did nice reflection on the term brain verse mind, brain/rain mine/mind differential. bifurcation precipitates L-field . system symmetry y symmetry t electric magnetic waves cosmological constant cycles per second of letters y~t symmetry. ottffssent number theory sacred numbers 0~9
Fritjof Capra - The Systems View of Life
a Utopian dream
A Utopian dream - to survive?
Unfortunately, yes. Because what Mr Capra proposes requires all of us to be on the same page. Take a look around you in the world today,.....are we even close.........?
All right I have no idea what's going on lol
I am a man but they won’t let me in
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MACRON* BORIS JHONSON/ the pension of the old 🧓 as wisdom by experience rejuvenates the minds 🤔 Older people are wisdom on a society😥 A perception of facts that experience has giving to the elders 👵🧓👴👩🦳👨🦳🤔🎨🖼🎭🩰🍑📲😉 RENAISANCE 🍾🍾🍷🍮🍯🍼