it's like people forgot sanjis losing streak from fishmen island to whole cake island. and sanji doesn't use conquerors haki. so katakuri has a clear advantage, there is also the fact that like the heroes of the story. katakuri could also become stronger as well. crocodile did. by a completely insane difference from alabasta to marine ford. and the entire story from chapter 1 to marine ford was 3 months.
Yes, Queen did say that he would eventually stop when he loses his stamina, but losing his stamina is not a problem at all. Sanji would just keep hitting Katakuri with blinding speed so before Sanji loses his stamina, Kat is already done.
I love katakuri but isn't sanji the same man who dodge a bean kat send at him AND saw the future where sanji was supposed to get hit? I think that shows just how incredible sanji's observation is 🤔🤷🏾♀️
Sanji beats the breaks off that man. Speed is a weakness for observation haki and sanji surpassed g4 snakeman in wci. Mochi is weak to fire too i think. It's a bad match up for him
It's literally the opposite. Speeds weakness is observation. Kaido got annoyed by Luffy's speed, so Kaido countered with observation. Luffy only started hitting Kuri more after Luffy got better with his own observation.
@caelens1443 The boa sisters aren't great at observation. Just confirmed to read attacks right before it happens. Kaido and Katakuri mastered it to where they could see the future in general. In the story, future observation counters speed every time. To your point, it would only work both ways if Katakuri only had basic observation.
I want to know why you think kata has dura neg, and about the armament, haki thing, luffy adapted and matched with it after kat considered them equals. next, I dont even know where you got the idea that katakuri has conq coating when their fist are touching, and we've seen what 2 conq clashes look like. Peros pero was also compared to a heavily injured jack. Who took almost no damage fighting dog storm and cat viper for days.
@@caelens1443 1. During his fight with Luffy at one point he uses his spear, misses Luffy, hits the pillar behind him, although there wasn’t much surface damage to the pillar; it end up blowing up all the way through the other side 1.5. also, towards the end Kat. Said “I am stronger and faster than you” after adapting to snake man Luffy, then proceeding to blitz and hit him with the Buzzcut 2. After their conquers aura clash, their fists start having lighting come off of them which is a common effect of Conquers, and we’ve seen before in the Dressrosa colosseum fight with Chinjao they made direct contact, lightning effects and all, and both were stated to have used Conquers in that clash There’s a difference between conquers coating and advanced conquers coating, the advanced one is C. coating + Ryuo,(which so far Kat. Likely Does NOT have) 3. Perros actually did take damage from multiple sources before making it to cat viper and had been fighting for likely a few hours, and Jack wasn’t that injured before his fight with dog storm, he had already been recovering for about a week It wouldn’t make sense for Kat to have advanced form of one haki, and not proficiency in the others, (but still likely not A.C. Coating as that seems to be the peak of Haki levels) But considering his comparable growth rate to someone like luffy, it wouldn’t be too much to say he’d unlock it eventually
@@orion5565 pretty advance coc IS coating, and normal coc is projecting your will on to others, I don't it was ever stated the acoc is conquers + advance armament, also wdym comparable to sugar? Like from dressrosa?
@@boombastic7013i always get the names mixed up, I meant Smoothie comparable to Jack as the 2nd strongest commander in their respective crews Peros pero >=< jack Smoothie/ Cracker >=< Queen Katakuri >=< King
Sanji low diffs kat sorry he dosent have the ap dosent have the speed and have the durability to help him even his hax aren’t helping him he’s just not relevant power scaling wise he’s not top 30 no more
Sanji wasn’t that strong, Queen was freaking bad. And don’t forget that Katakuri became weak after hurting himself, but Luffy’s wounds healed after turned into snake man. Also, Sanji’s iron body is trash against Katakuri. Katakuri just gave his brother a single punch. It is just sound like Sanji is the strongest character in one piece. As you said he can even one tap Yonkos and They can’t see Sanji’s speed. Stay in reality.
He never said Sanji one taps a yonko where did you even get that Now first of all you can interpret Katakuri's "weakening himself" Against luffy in two ways 1:His AP is so good but his durability is so bad 2:his durability and endurance is so weak that his AP is strong enough to damage him(Same AP who's unable to keep Luffy down for 11 hours) Let's put this Fight into perspective If Sanji's attack's are enough to Damage Queen Something Marco couldn't do(same Marco who could hold his own against Big mom and Kizaru) What does that say about Sanji's AP? Base it sucks Awakened? Every hit from sanji is practically a death sentence for Katakuri You can't debate he's faster because when he's caught off guard you can still land a hit
The fact both Ulti AND Page 1 were beaten by NAMI AND USSOP makes the fight a lil one-sided, she's got one feet and that somewhat pushing base Luffy. She a Franky victim fr
@@thatsguy1111 Page 1 is fodder tbh i dont even concider him a factor in the fight. Dont forget that my girl Ulti got ganged up by everyone including Big mom. It wasnt a fair fight.
Even if it's not oda's intention for Katakuri to be weaker but based off feats and scaling Sanji low-mid diffs. Realisticially if they fought in the narrative it'd be high diff for sanji as both yc1 (oda could just buff kata via haki bloom as he never really struggled before luffy)
Bro was glazing sanji to the high heavens.. sanji’s blitzing speed is only temporary cus it drains his stamina, Queen was literally a punching bag and even with ifrit jambe it took him like 10 consecutive unguarded attacks to beat Queen..unless you think Kat will just stand and take attacks from sanji, then you just bugging..not taking into account future sight ..which you didn’t even talk about cus you just yapping
I just double checked the manga chapter itself and yes it was technically 11 attacks. But remember this was in a BARAGE. Queen the time to move or say anything before getting hit. Therefore theirs nothing implying that Sanji didn't just beat queen with the first, second or, if you want to be stingy, third hit. By Ur logic when Luffy blasted crocodile a metric crap ton of times using "gum-gum rain" their final fight, are you saying that croc is strong enough to survive the hundreds of hits before the final one. Of course not it's a combo.
And even if it DID take Sanji 11 hits to beat Queen. Katakuri was hit only around 14 times by the weakass WCI Luffy who got speedblitzed by Kaido, whereas even characters like Zoro (similar to Sanji) weren't done AS bad. All to say Katakuri doesn't have the greatest durability anyways.
Katakuri Couldnt beat wci luffy and sanji is a whole lot stronger than wci luffy so what in the hell is katakuri supposed to do when someone way stronger than a wci luffy runs his fade
@@GrassTouch-q9h no his not My God sanji tards are something Whole cake lyffy has better haki is stronger faster better ap and luffy needed to a break and unlock a new form to make it fair and still kata ket kuffy win
Sanji not beating Katakuri and yes the stab did actually weaken him so the fight could be fair after the cheap shot on luffy. Katakuri has strong haki on all fronts and it seems that conqueror haki is conveniently been overlooked. That's a whole different ball game. Sanji is just not there as yet
Good video zage.. the only thing is are you saying sanji vs whole cake katakuri then fair enough. If it's current day egghead then you'll need to upscale him because haki blooms and portrayal wise he would be more powerful now than before
When people talk about Katakuri they often Dont mention that He was Nerfed in his fight with Luffy. His endurance is actually fucking good. To call Katakuri's endurance "His weakest attribute" is definitely downplaying him imo. He didnt use his Spear and he stabbed himself to make the fight against Luffy fair. Honestly the fact he went 12 hours ith Luffy in a nerfed state speaks a lot about him.
He went 12 hours with an injured luffy dont forget that , kata wasnt the only one injured , also sanji’s body will def make him immune to most kata attacks and on the other hand sanji’s speed and observation haki which made him able to dodge kata attack before will def make him possible to win UNLESS ofc if kata was getting stronger as well then yeah maybe
Sanji never actually has to fight YC1 opponents he just beats YC2 and below and people just pretend he’s zoro or sum. Wish people used sanjis feats in the story to scale him
@@zagessj why wouldn’t he be just stronger than Queen? He got 2 power ups in his fight with queen then passed out. His final attack was in fact while queen was attacking Osome but somehow that justifies how he’ll hit and beat king or Kat 1v1 even tho king is supposedly more durable than kaido and Kat has future sight. He has just never shown feats of being that strong yet can’t just say he’s that strong cuz zoro is.
But Sanji and Queen weren't on the same level, Sanji essentially, literally low dip Queen. He had no difficulty fighting Queen, his only barrier was being offensively strong to heavily damage through Queen's Ancient Zoan defense, that was it. Even before his Germa awakening, he didn't struggle against Queen. So that does not mean he is at the same level as YC2, it makes him above.
Everybody underestimating future sight, Luffy only hit Kata when he was pissed off and after he started using it too to counter. It's not just about speed, if you want to talk about speed Kata was dodging Hydra! Not to mention Luffy BEEN a speed demon himself. He's been disappearing on cats using Gear 2nd all the way back in Enies Lobby, granted that was before Haki but Queen doesn't really have any Haki feats. Should I bring up the out of the back attack by none other than the man of 1000 plans Captain Kuro lol.. ok ok I'm trolling. I'm not saying Kata wins necessarily but this is why I hate One Piece power scaling, I feel like people constantly over AND under estimate abilities. It's so hard to gauge because Oda isn't very consistent with things and doesn't care to be. I think Sanji would probably rise to the occasion and surpass Kata but I personally think it would be a lot harder of a fight than you're implying. Seeing into the future is crazy, it almost negates speed all together if the other person isn't on the same lvl, not to mention his awakening. Sanji isn't going to be eating his way out of no mochi pile the way Luffy was. I know Sanji got a massive durability boost in Wano but once again Luffy is the durability chomp besides characters like Big Mom and Kaido. Kata has plenty of stamina, he kept up for 12 hours man, dodging shots, they were both teleporting all over the place. I also think a lot of power scalers in the community use feats that are silly/questionable. Lets use Sanji dodging the jelly bean for example, who's to say that Kata didn't just assume he had his guard down? all it even proves is that Sanji can dodge his weakest attack.. Or the Brachio bomber, are we really going to say oh Queen dmged Big Mom when it was a plot contrivance for her to get her memories back? Even if you say yes that attack was about his body mass/weight more than anything. I think if Sanji's speed is actually enough to get some shots in through future sight he's prob winning, plus his fire would prob be pretty effective against mochi but I'm not fully convinced he's able to hit Kata in the first place. All I'm trying to say is that it's hard to gauge, there are a lot of factors up in the air. Luffy had top tier speed and durability back in whole cake and it wasn't til he could see the future too that he stood any chance. Sanji probably Haki blooms in a similar way to Luffy and gets the win IMO, high dif.
It's mostly because of something Luffy said that completely changes the way future sight works In his fight with Kaido during the rooftop he states that "Even with future sight these guys are way too fast!" This changes everything for Katakuri's agenda as Luffy in g4 Bounceman was speed blitzed by Base Kaido BASE KAIDO Here's the reason why it's bad: That means Base rooftop Luffy>G4 Bounceman Start of wano Luffy Because now he's able to react to Kaido Dodge his attack's and is fast enough to counter yet he's struggling against this base Kaido Hybrid Kaido Gets stronger and faster Zoro was able to react clash and Damage Kaido Later on Zoro fights King and struggles Meanwhile earlier pre awakened Sanji was able to hold King and Queen By himself This just makes Katakuri's 12 hours endurance fight look like ass because outside advanced Observation what does he have to win?
I love how when we scale guys like king, zoro, marco and sanji, we compare apples and oranges to put them above kat and call it good powerscaling. But God forbid it when we compare kaidos feats against snakeman to katakuri because thats BAD scaling to compare identical feats . From a narrative perspective, kat continues to be potrayed as above the rest of these guys.
U dumbass the snakeman that fought kaido is significantly stronger and faster than the one that fought katakuri that’s like saying kaido fought the same g4 as doffy did in dressrosa 💀
The fight starts and...Sanji disappears...
Gambler school of thought I see
Restless gambler 🤔🤔
😂😂nice reference
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it's like people forgot sanjis losing streak from fishmen island to whole cake island.
and sanji doesn't use conquerors haki.
so katakuri has a clear advantage,
there is also the fact that like the heroes of the story. katakuri could also become stronger as well.
crocodile did. by a completely insane difference from alabasta to marine ford.
and the entire story from chapter 1 to marine ford was 3 months.
Yes, Queen did say that he would eventually stop when he loses his stamina, but losing his stamina is not a problem at all. Sanji would just keep hitting Katakuri with blinding speed so before Sanji loses his stamina, Kat is already done.
I love katakuri but isn't sanji the same man who dodge a bean kat send at him AND saw the future where sanji was supposed to get hit? I think that shows just how incredible sanji's observation is 🤔🤷🏾♀️
That's a lie. Katakuri didn't see Sanji getting hit. Katakuri just tried to anticipate Sanji dodging the gun shot
@@sisekodeyi6604 he anticipated and still missed 😂.
Bro doesn't that show even without future sight sanji's observation is strong🤨
Mate ridder
@@Kryss_collects I guess im a meat rider when i see facts 🤷🏾♀️
@@Kryss_collects
My man plz add an argument against that I'm begging U 😭😭
hey zage when you get more information about dragon shanks and many more youll do a verses like the one and many more
No doubt
Sanji low to- middiff. People really said Katakuri gave Luffy the advantage by stabbing himself? You must be trolling??
Sanji beats the breaks off that man. Speed is a weakness for observation haki and sanji surpassed g4 snakeman in wci. Mochi is weak to fire too i think. It's a bad match up for him
It's literally the opposite. Speeds weakness is observation. Kaido got annoyed by Luffy's speed, so Kaido countered with observation.
Luffy only started hitting Kuri more after Luffy got better with his own observation.
@@kagelynxnot really when the boa sisters were using advanced observation and got blitzed by luffy when he used g2 so it both ways
@caelens1443 The boa sisters aren't great at observation. Just confirmed to read attacks right before it happens.
Kaido and Katakuri mastered it to where they could see the future in general.
In the story, future observation counters speed every time.
To your point, it would only work both ways if Katakuri only had basic observation.
Peros Peros = Jack (lost to dog storm and cap viper who are equals)
Peros
I want to know why you think kata has dura neg, and about the armament, haki thing, luffy adapted and matched with it after kat considered them equals. next, I dont even know where you got the idea that katakuri has conq coating when their fist are touching, and we've seen what 2 conq clashes look like. Peros pero was also compared to a heavily injured jack. Who took almost no damage fighting dog storm and cat viper for days.
@@caelens1443
1. During his fight with Luffy at one point he uses his spear, misses Luffy, hits the pillar behind him, although there wasn’t much surface damage to the pillar; it end up blowing up all the way through the other side
1.5. also, towards the end Kat. Said “I am stronger and faster than you” after adapting to snake man Luffy, then proceeding to blitz and hit him with the Buzzcut
2. After their conquers aura clash, their fists start having lighting come off of them which is a common effect of Conquers, and we’ve seen before in the Dressrosa colosseum fight with Chinjao they made direct contact, lightning effects and all, and both were stated to have used Conquers in that clash
There’s a difference between conquers coating and advanced conquers coating, the advanced one is C. coating + Ryuo,(which so far Kat. Likely Does NOT have)
3. Perros actually did take damage from multiple sources before making it to cat viper and had been fighting for likely a few hours, and Jack wasn’t that injured before his fight with dog storm, he had already been recovering for about a week
It wouldn’t make sense for Kat to have advanced form of one haki, and not proficiency in the others, (but still likely not A.C. Coating as that seems to be the peak of Haki levels)
But considering his comparable growth rate to someone like luffy, it wouldn’t be too much to say he’d unlock it eventually
@@orion5565 pretty advance coc IS coating, and normal coc is projecting your will on to others, I don't it was ever stated the acoc is conquers + advance armament, also wdym comparable to sugar? Like from dressrosa?
@@boombastic7013i always get the names mixed up, I meant Smoothie comparable to Jack as the 2nd strongest commander in their respective crews
Peros pero >=< jack
Smoothie/ Cracker >=< Queen
Katakuri >=< King
Maybe a good video idea is going through your ranking of the flying six and their skillset.
Sanji low diffs kat sorry he dosent have the ap dosent have the speed and have the durability to help him even his hax aren’t helping him he’s just not relevant power scaling wise he’s not top 30 no more
Sanji wasn’t that strong, Queen was freaking bad. And don’t forget that Katakuri became weak after hurting himself, but Luffy’s wounds healed after turned into snake man. Also, Sanji’s iron body is trash against Katakuri. Katakuri just gave his brother a single punch. It is just sound like Sanji is the strongest character in one piece. As you said he can even one tap Yonkos and They can’t see Sanji’s speed. Stay in reality.
He never said Sanji one taps a yonko where did you even get that
Now first of all you can interpret Katakuri's "weakening himself" Against luffy in two ways
1:His AP is so good but his durability is so bad
2:his durability and endurance is so weak that his AP is strong enough to damage him(Same AP who's unable to keep Luffy down for 11 hours)
Let's put this Fight into perspective
If Sanji's attack's are enough to Damage Queen Something Marco couldn't do(same Marco who could hold his own against Big mom and Kizaru) What does that say about Sanji's AP? Base it sucks
Awakened? Every hit from sanji is practically a death sentence for Katakuri
You can't debate he's faster because when he's caught off guard you can still land a hit
Here come the Katakuri bots
please do Ulti vs Katakuri next.
The fact both Ulti AND Page 1 were beaten by NAMI AND USSOP makes the fight a lil one-sided, she's got one feet and that somewhat pushing base Luffy.
She a Franky victim fr
@@thatsguy1111 Page 1 is fodder tbh i dont even concider him a factor in the fight. Dont forget that my girl Ulti got ganged up by everyone including Big mom. It wasnt a fair fight.
@@thatsguy1111didn’t she take a fused homie attack from big mom as well?
Even if it's not oda's intention for Katakuri to be weaker but based off feats and scaling Sanji low-mid diffs. Realisticially if they fought in the narrative it'd be high diff for sanji as both yc1 (oda could just buff kata via haki bloom as he never really struggled before luffy)
Its no mid diff at best even the fliying six low diff katakuri katakuri got massivly power cliffed
@@Spongedbob-yh7wphow did Katakuri get power cliffed
Bro was glazing sanji to the high heavens.. sanji’s blitzing speed is only temporary cus it drains his stamina, Queen was literally a punching bag and even with ifrit jambe it took him like 10 consecutive unguarded attacks to beat Queen..unless you think Kat will just stand and take attacks from sanji, then you just bugging..not taking into account future sight ..which you didn’t even talk about cus you just yapping
I just double checked the manga chapter itself and yes it was technically 11 attacks. But remember this was in a BARAGE. Queen the time to move or say anything before getting hit. Therefore theirs nothing implying that Sanji didn't just beat queen with the first, second or, if you want to be stingy, third hit.
By Ur logic when Luffy blasted crocodile a metric crap ton of times using "gum-gum rain" their final fight, are you saying that croc is strong enough to survive the hundreds of hits before the final one. Of course not it's a combo.
And even if it DID take Sanji 11 hits to beat Queen. Katakuri was hit only around 14 times by the weakass WCI Luffy who got speedblitzed by Kaido, whereas even characters like Zoro (similar to Sanji) weren't done AS bad.
All to say Katakuri doesn't have the greatest durability anyways.
@@thatsguy1111 queen is an actual punching bag he could never react to sanji his ob was ass
Yall sanji d riders are something any one who thinks this fight is not anything besides extreme diff is a clown
He low-mid diff someone stronger than katakuri
Katakuri Couldnt beat wci luffy and sanji is a whole lot stronger than wci luffy so what in the hell is katakuri supposed to do when someone way stronger than a wci luffy runs his fade
@@GrassTouch-q9h no his not
My God sanji tards are something
Whole cake lyffy has better haki is stronger faster better ap and luffy needed to a break and unlock a new form to make it fair and still kata ket kuffy win
Katakuri wins
Nah
Never Cook Again.
Never cook again
Never cook again
Only one who can cook is Wanji
W vid
The fight starts and Sanji disappears.... Restless gambler is that you? 🤔🤣
Sanji not beating Katakuri and yes the stab did actually weaken him so the fight could be fair after the cheap shot on luffy. Katakuri has strong haki on all fronts and it seems that conqueror haki is conveniently been overlooked. That's a whole different ball game. Sanji is just not there as yet
neegga, are u ok 💀
conquers haki is not a proper debate For a fight unless it's awakened so shut up
😢kat a mega fraud even chopper beating this fraud 😅
This not even fair
He got power creep in wano and u know who got a power up in wano 😂😂 wanji wins low -mid diff
Sanji till this day has faced 0 haki attacks
in his most recent main fight we see Queen use haki against sanji lol
Queen literally used haki what are u on
The spider girl used haki punches too, catch up to one piece before you start talking.
Another wage cooking session
I disagree, Simply because the idea of Sanji beating the number 2 of the Big Mum pirates doesnt go well to me.
Sanji low diffs
Low-mid diffs
@@Sinsmoke_ he low diffs.
@@Mochii01 no-low diffs
@@Sinsmoke_real
Sanji oneshots
Restless said the cart off a lil caus luffy hit him 17 times he still ass by the way
The way I see the fight is Sanji blitz and oneshots.
In film red katakuri was portrayed to fight on par with ifrit jambe sanji, unless I interpreted it wrong or film red feats completely aren’t canon
Film Red isn’t canon
Tho some general points of it are canon like the existence of Uta. The movie itself isn't.
luffy vs sanji
Good video zage.. the only thing is are you saying sanji vs whole cake katakuri then fair enough.
If it's current day egghead then you'll need to upscale him because haki blooms and portrayal wise he would be more powerful now than before
Winsmoke 😮
When people talk about Katakuri they often Dont mention that He was Nerfed in his fight with Luffy.
His endurance is actually fucking good. To call Katakuri's endurance "His weakest attribute" is definitely downplaying him imo.
He didnt use his Spear and he stabbed himself to make the fight against Luffy fair. Honestly the fact he went 12 hours ith Luffy in a nerfed state speaks a lot about him.
He went 12 hours with an injured luffy dont forget that , kata wasnt the only one injured , also sanji’s body will def make him immune to most kata attacks and on the other hand sanji’s speed and observation haki which made him able to dodge kata attack before will def make him possible to win UNLESS ofc if kata was getting stronger as well then yeah maybe
Kat got mad at Flampe for giving him an unfair advantage
Luffy was also nerfed
Love sanji… but Kat a problem
Claiming it's not a fair fight in the title is a stretch tbh. Sanji wins, but it's a mid diff fight at best, realistically high diff.
How realistically enough does katakuri stand a chance
Sanji win mid diff
bounceman
Sanji no diffs kat cant even beat ulti or x drake lmfao
You’re going too far with Ulti and Drake lol
Sanji never actually has to fight YC1 opponents he just beats YC2 and below and people just pretend he’s zoro or sum. Wish people used sanjis feats in the story to scale him
You say this like Sanji is only on Queens level lol
@@zagessjit's not sure whether Sanji could've landed IFJ on Queen in the first place if it weren't for Osome.
@@zagessj why wouldn’t he be just stronger than Queen? He got 2 power ups in his fight with queen then passed out. His final attack was in fact while queen was attacking Osome but somehow that justifies how he’ll hit and beat king or Kat 1v1 even tho king is supposedly more durable than kaido and Kat has future sight. He has just never shown feats of being that strong yet can’t just say he’s that strong cuz zoro is.
But Sanji and Queen weren't on the same level, Sanji essentially, literally low dip Queen. He had no difficulty fighting Queen, his only barrier was being offensively strong to heavily damage through Queen's Ancient Zoan defense, that was it. Even before his Germa awakening, he didn't struggle against Queen. So that does not mean he is at the same level as YC2, it makes him above.
@@SirDave Did you forget Queen broke literally all of Sanji's bones in CH1028? If not for his Germa Awakening, Sanji would've died by then.
Everybody underestimating future sight, Luffy only hit Kata when he was pissed off and after he started using it too to counter. It's not just about speed, if you want to talk about speed Kata was dodging Hydra! Not to mention Luffy BEEN a speed demon himself. He's been disappearing on cats using Gear 2nd all the way back in Enies Lobby, granted that was before Haki but Queen doesn't really have any Haki feats. Should I bring up the out of the back attack by none other than the man of 1000 plans Captain Kuro lol.. ok ok I'm trolling. I'm not saying Kata wins necessarily but this is why I hate One Piece power scaling, I feel like people constantly over AND under estimate abilities. It's so hard to gauge because Oda isn't very consistent with things and doesn't care to be. I think Sanji would probably rise to the occasion and surpass Kata but I personally think it would be a lot harder of a fight than you're implying. Seeing into the future is crazy, it almost negates speed all together if the other person isn't on the same lvl, not to mention his awakening. Sanji isn't going to be eating his way out of no mochi pile the way Luffy was. I know Sanji got a massive durability boost in Wano but once again Luffy is the durability chomp besides characters like Big Mom and Kaido. Kata has plenty of stamina, he kept up for 12 hours man, dodging shots, they were both teleporting all over the place. I also think a lot of power scalers in the community use feats that are silly/questionable. Lets use Sanji dodging the jelly bean for example, who's to say that Kata didn't just assume he had his guard down? all it even proves is that Sanji can dodge his weakest attack.. Or the Brachio bomber, are we really going to say oh Queen dmged Big Mom when it was a plot contrivance for her to get her memories back? Even if you say yes that attack was about his body mass/weight more than anything. I think if Sanji's speed is actually enough to get some shots in through future sight he's prob winning, plus his fire would prob be pretty effective against mochi but I'm not fully convinced he's able to hit Kata in the first place. All I'm trying to say is that it's hard to gauge, there are a lot of factors up in the air. Luffy had top tier speed and durability back in whole cake and it wasn't til he could see the future too that he stood any chance. Sanji probably Haki blooms in a similar way to Luffy and gets the win IMO, high dif.
It's mostly because of something Luffy said that completely changes the way future sight works
In his fight with Kaido during the rooftop he states that "Even with future sight these guys are way too fast!"
This changes everything for Katakuri's agenda as Luffy in g4 Bounceman was speed blitzed by Base Kaido
BASE KAIDO Here's the reason why it's bad:
That means Base rooftop Luffy>G4 Bounceman Start of wano Luffy
Because now he's able to react to Kaido
Dodge his attack's and is fast enough to counter yet he's struggling against this base Kaido
Hybrid Kaido Gets stronger and faster
Zoro was able to react clash and Damage Kaido
Later on Zoro fights King and struggles
Meanwhile earlier pre awakened Sanji was able to hold King and Queen By himself
This just makes Katakuri's 12 hours endurance fight look like ass because outside advanced Observation what does he have to win?
I love how when we scale guys like king, zoro, marco and sanji, we compare apples and oranges to put them above kat and call it good powerscaling. But God forbid it when we compare kaidos feats against snakeman to katakuri because thats BAD scaling to compare identical feats . From a narrative perspective, kat continues to be potrayed as above the rest of these guys.
You can’t be serious lol
U dumbass the snakeman that fought kaido is significantly stronger and faster than the one that fought katakuri that’s like saying kaido fought the same g4 as doffy did in dressrosa 💀
I guess Full Power Frieza from the Namek Arc could give Perfect Cell a good fight then since both fought SSJ Goku…..
Sanji high diff. Would be extreme if katakuri had higher durability
Ifrit jambe Sanji no diffs