I definitely don't agree regarding the sound here, as it sounds like the SNES version is being played in an echo chamber or large canyon or something, but I agree with you on the rest. It certainly looks nicer and is even more graphically impressive in many places on SNES.
It's difficult to decide between either version. They're both good in their own right. Overall, I think I'd rate the SNES version a bit higher because it has slightly nicer graphics, its Pac-Man voice sounds more expressive and the music instrumentation is better in my opinion. Say what you will about the SNES music's reverb, I think I'm one of the few people who can actually tolerate it, if only because I'm used to it after having heard that same reverb effect in several other SNES soundtracks. Plus, I'm not a fan of that crackly drum sample they used in the Genesis/Mega Drive version's music. As much as it may be weird to admit, this is actually one of my favourite games in the whole series despite not playing like a traditional Pac-Man game. It had a unique spin on the point-and-click genre in that the main character is constantly moving around and interacting with things on their own without your input, and because of Pac-Man's wide range of emotions and the myriad of things you can make him interact with, several of the game's points of interest have different outcomes depending on how Pac-Man is feeling when his attention is turned towards them, so the possibilities are almost endless. Finally, this is, without a doubt, one of the _FUNNIEST_ games I have ever played. The Schadenfreude factor is through the roof! You don't have to clear each of the game's four missions straight away, you can just spend all your time using your slingshot to hit almost anything, even Pac-Man himself, with often hilarious results, and the best part is that you have infinite "lives". There are _so_ many ways to abuse and humiliate the poor guy that there's even a series of (very) old UA-cam videos called "Making Pac-Man Suffer!" that shows most of them. Definitely worth watching if you can handle the old video quality of the mid-2000s.
So people are making the general consensus that SNES looks better and Mega Drive sounds better. I can't disagree with that. I always thought the SNES version didn't sound that good. The composition and instrument choice is good, but amount of reverb applied is WAY over any SNES game I've heard. Very grating to the ears... However, it looks nice overall. Meanwhile, the Mega Drive version seems to be missing some details and stuff, but the sound is far more pleasant.
It's kind of crazy to me that people are trashing the SNES version a bit. I remember renting both a lot, and knowing that only the SNES version actually came out in Japan, it seems especially evident that the SNES version was the lead platform that the game was originally made for, and the Genesis version is a (very well done) port. Genesis is clearly missing some features here and there like the music tempo changes based on Pac-Man's mood, iris-in, iris-out on "deaths", Pac-Man's chatter being actual pitch-shifted voice samples instead of synthesizer-voice, and better-looking word balloons at the beginning. If you hadn't played both versions though, you'd never know you were missing anything, and I think they did a great job working within the boundaries of the Genesis' limitations. As far as I've ever played it, the SNES music always sounds like this -- in music as well as the game itself, they're aiming for a sort of wacky 1920s-30s "check us out, we can pair audio and performed music with our theatrical cartoons now", Silly Symphonies/Merrie Melodies-type of off-kilter old timey cartoon feel with this game. Steamboat Willie and so forth, the same stuff that Cuphead was riffing off of.
The music sounds way nicer on the SNES. Even though the SNES music has a lot of reverb, the Genesis sometimes sounds like some weird mess of instruments to me, and it also gives me the effect that some beats are missing
i think both versions are good but i gotta give the edge to genesis. he sounds more expressive in this version, and the music gives you more of a smooth village/town feel. its like he even has words in the sega ver like you can hear him saying stuff like "wanna go over there?" "i dont know what to do " and so on.
It isn't just because I grew up with the Genesis version, but the Genesis version sounds far better to me, especially for music. It also has Pac-Jr. as well. The music on SNES sounds really weird to me, especially the instrumentation. Pac-Man's voice also sounds really weird on SNES as well. I will say the SNES version is far more colourful though. The games run at the same resolution too, which is nice.
The snes reverb was overdone a little bit. Sounds like it emanates from a tin can. But it sounds different on a tv speaker vs proper captured stereo sound too.
I think that the snes version is better since in snes there is a detail that changes a lot because the music speeds up or slows down depending on the mood of pac man, it gives it a touch, I also think it has better music but well no we can complain since the sega genesis was created to compete against the nes and was created before the snes.
I have to say, I think the Genesis is impressive for the use of the background scaling instead of mode seven, and for the instrumentation being fairy good given the limits of the Genesis sound chip.
Visual: I prefer the SNES version, so the cutcenes is a circle screen, SNES Point. Gameplay: Both, there's is the same gameplay, some changes in two versions. Both points Sound: Mmmm that's it's good in both, but if had to choose one, the Mega Drive is good. MD Point Snes Wins! (Sorry for my really bad english)
I had the SNES version, I was young and didnt know how to play it so it sucked as a kid, I went to play it again, its better than what I remember though Edit: also the SNES version has "better" sounding music, it sounds like a bunch of different metals being banged on to make the music
I got two things. 1. I added this game to my SNES Collection, but I only play Pac-Man and Ms Pac-Man on it. 2. Would you mind if you do Grobda Version Comparison video someday?
God knows what they did with the sound on the SNES version but it sounds like it's playing in an echo chamber or something. :-o The SNES version looks nicer all round (more colours on screen, better colour choices, not stretched, additional window/masking effects in interiors, some Mode 7 scaling on the intro, proper transparency on things like clouds and lasers in later levels, more background layers and extra parallax in some of later levels too, etc), but the Genesis version sounds much better (not like it's playing in some tunnel).
I at one point owned both a SNES and Genesis copies of this now I am on my second copy for the Genesis it only cost me 6 dollars for it at the used game store I like the sound quality of both but the images are more desirable on the SNES port
1 thing I like about the genesis is that it almost sounds close to an arcade! 1 thing I do not like about the genesis is the music it does not switch to fast or slow 1 thing i like about the snes it sounds like a cartoon 1 thing i do not like about the snes is that it has too much "reverb" or echoes Both are good but in my opinion is the snes
Hey, is anyone gonna talk about when the pac man gets mad the music goes faster and when hes sad the music goes slower in the SNES version and not in the Genesis version
SNES one was made more in mind for Surround Sound, and will sound much better on a TV that uses stereo surround sound. The voice effects on the Genesis though suffer from awful scratchiness, a problem few developers could overcome (Game Freak was one of those few with Pulse Man, but even that has a scratchy nature to it, but not of this degree).
I think you've got those backwards as the PC/Amiga pixel-art games of the time always tended to look visually more dated/limited than the arcades. But, whatever you meant, the SNES version definitely looks better, and in some of the later levels very noticeably so. The SNES version sounds terrible though.
@@inceptional I think he meant by the fact SNES features more vibrant colors and Mega Drive features simpler shading and more muted colors, since arcade games in the late 80s had a lot of games go with muted, simpler colors (Karnov, Forgotten Worlds, Gradius 2, and Twinbee come to mind)
@@solarflare9078 The Genesis has a 9-bit 512-colour master palette. The SNES has a 15-bit 32,768-colour master palette. That's a whopping 64x larger. The Genesis can display a max of 4 bits per pixel as a standard option (16 colours) and the SNES a max of 8 bits per pixel as a standard option (256 colours). That's 16x larger. The SNES not only has the ability to display more vibrant colours than Genesis but also simpler shading and more muted colours too; it just comes down to what the developer prefers to go with on SNES. That's pretty standard affair given the colour capabilities of these consoles compared to each other. It's also true of most arcades of that era too, which are generally able to display many more and nicer colours than Genesis and often more than SNES too. In this particular game, I think the SNES colours are generally warmer and nicer and gentler on the eyes while the Genesis colours are often somewhat dull yet harsh and garish, which is the typical result of the SNES being able to display more colours with a much larger colour gamut. Pause the video and jump back and forth between 2:53 and 2:58 or between 5:38 and 5:43 and I think you can clearly see the difference, particularly in things like the sky, the background hills/rocks, the grass and fence there. The SNES audio is indeed really terrible here though. Although it's certainly capable of far better sound that what they pulled off in this particular game.
Wow. I never considered the ghosts point of view before. Pac-Man is a pretty dark concept for a game. Even the original. Now the lore is explained I feel sorry for the ghosts. Also, this is one of the strangest games ever made. SNES wins as Genesis port borked the aspect, music is a bit too harsh and colours to primary. I think that was a choice though because Sega would encourage brighter colours and Nintendo the opposite. 512 (+dark and light variants) still have more subtle greens and yellows than that.
Okay I really don't know what's the matter with some of you guys ears LOL but it's obvious that the SUPER NINTENDO VERSION of Pac-Man2 is a lot better and his expression is more understanding and Funny. NOW the Sega GENESIS Version is just Plan annoying, I just don't understand how some people can't see that but everybody's different I guess though. Oh and the Graphics on SNES Is better 💯💯
@@ferhound I honestly think maybe there's a bug in the SNES version's sound code or something and the developer just didn't realise. Or maybe it sounds much worse via emulation than on a real TV or something, but that isn't a problem I've noticed with any other emulated SNES games. If that sound is intentional then it's honestly just terrible.
@@inceptional believeme me I was raised by the Genesis ver. played the game on both hardware and emulated, they are perfectly replicated. Snes sounds wrong.
@@elel. nah, they both have the same visible area, maybe if you watched the video you would notice that. that’s because they both run at the same resolution
![[TAS] SNES Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures in 22:17.36](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uO0_Ht_Xo0g/mqdefault.jpg)
As the current WR holder for both versions, Snes runs better and imo sounds better.
Respect
I also agree with SNES because Genesis has worse sound and easier to control. I got to get the edge to SNES.
but at least we must admit that in the sega Blinky if it is literally red
I definitely don't agree regarding the sound here, as it sounds like the SNES version is being played in an echo chamber or large canyon or something, but I agree with you on the rest. It certainly looks nicer and is even more graphically impressive in many places on SNES.
It's difficult to decide between either version. They're both good in their own right. Overall, I think I'd rate the SNES version a bit higher because it has slightly nicer graphics, its Pac-Man voice sounds more expressive and the music instrumentation is better in my opinion. Say what you will about the SNES music's reverb, I think I'm one of the few people who can actually tolerate it, if only because I'm used to it after having heard that same reverb effect in several other SNES soundtracks. Plus, I'm not a fan of that crackly drum sample they used in the Genesis/Mega Drive version's music.
As much as it may be weird to admit, this is actually one of my favourite games in the whole series despite not playing like a traditional Pac-Man game. It had a unique spin on the point-and-click genre in that the main character is constantly moving around and interacting with things on their own without your input, and because of Pac-Man's wide range of emotions and the myriad of things you can make him interact with, several of the game's points of interest have different outcomes depending on how Pac-Man is feeling when his attention is turned towards them, so the possibilities are almost endless. Finally, this is, without a doubt, one of the _FUNNIEST_ games I have ever played. The Schadenfreude factor is through the roof! You don't have to clear each of the game's four missions straight away, you can just spend all your time using your slingshot to hit almost anything, even Pac-Man himself, with often hilarious results, and the best part is that you have infinite "lives". There are _so_ many ways to abuse and humiliate the poor guy that there's even a series of (very) old UA-cam videos called "Making Pac-Man Suffer!" that shows most of them. Definitely worth watching if you can handle the old video quality of the mid-2000s.
I agree lol! And his voice is just too funny
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So people are making the general consensus that SNES looks better and Mega Drive sounds better.
I can't disagree with that. I always thought the SNES version didn't sound that good. The composition and instrument choice is good, but amount of reverb applied is WAY over any SNES game I've heard. Very grating to the ears... However, it looks nice overall.
Meanwhile, the Mega Drive version seems to be missing some details and stuff, but the sound is far more pleasant.
Wow, if you couldn't hear how much better the Genesis' audio was before then you certainly can now!
SNES will always be the best in my opinion, Pac-Man’s voice sounds adorable and the music sounds better.
I prefer the SNES one. My brother is the one who first found this game on an emulator. And it was also nostalgic.
You got that right
It's kind of crazy to me that people are trashing the SNES version a bit. I remember renting both a lot, and knowing that only the SNES version actually came out in Japan, it seems especially evident that the SNES version was the lead platform that the game was originally made for, and the Genesis version is a (very well done) port.
Genesis is clearly missing some features here and there like the music tempo changes based on Pac-Man's mood, iris-in, iris-out on "deaths", Pac-Man's chatter being actual pitch-shifted voice samples instead of synthesizer-voice, and better-looking word balloons at the beginning. If you hadn't played both versions though, you'd never know you were missing anything, and I think they did a great job working within the boundaries of the Genesis' limitations.
As far as I've ever played it, the SNES music always sounds like this -- in music as well as the game itself, they're aiming for a sort of wacky 1920s-30s "check us out, we can pair audio and performed music with our theatrical cartoons now", Silly Symphonies/Merrie Melodies-type of off-kilter old timey cartoon feel with this game. Steamboat Willie and so forth, the same stuff that Cuphead was riffing off of.
STOP TYPING TOO MUCH!
@@NicolasBC2014 lol fair
SNES and Genesis! Wii U: Oh no! Wait for me!
The music sounds way nicer on the SNES. Even though the SNES music has a lot of reverb, the Genesis sometimes sounds like some weird mess of instruments to me, and it also gives me the effect that some beats are missing
i think both versions are good but i gotta give the edge to genesis. he sounds more expressive in this version, and the music gives you more of a smooth village/town feel. its like he even has words in the sega ver like you can hear him saying stuff like "wanna go over there?" "i dont know what to do " and so on.
It isn't just because I grew up with the Genesis version, but the Genesis version sounds far better to me, especially for music. It also has Pac-Jr. as well. The music on SNES sounds really weird to me, especially the instrumentation. Pac-Man's voice also sounds really weird on SNES as well.
I will say the SNES version is far more colourful though.
The games run at the same resolution too, which is nice.
The snes reverb was overdone a little bit. Sounds like it emanates from a tin can. But it sounds different on a tv speaker vs proper captured stereo sound too.
@@wishusknight3009 the sega version is funny every time pac man gets beaten up i lmao
The hard cuts definitely help with the comparison.
I think that the snes version is better since in snes there is a detail that changes a lot because the music speeds up or slows down depending on the mood of pac man, it gives it a touch, I also think it has better music but well no we can complain since the sega genesis was created to compete against the nes and was created before the snes.
I have to say, I think the Genesis is impressive for the use of the background scaling instead of mode seven, and for the instrumentation being fairy good given the limits of the Genesis sound chip.
Visual: I prefer the SNES version, so the cutcenes is a circle screen, SNES Point.
Gameplay: Both, there's is the same gameplay, some changes in two versions. Both points
Sound: Mmmm that's it's good in both, but if had to choose one, the Mega Drive is good. MD Point
Snes Wins!
(Sorry for my really bad english)
I Like The SNES Version!
I can tell bc it seems like you are a Mario fan for having your icon as Luigi
7:12 nah that transition was seamlessly smooth.
Snes has better colors. Genesis doesn't have that annoying reverb. Hard to pick a winner here.
Pac Man 2 Is my favorite pac Man game and u love both versions
I had the SNES version, I was young and didnt know how to play it so it sucked as a kid, I went to play it again, its better than what I remember though
Edit: also the SNES version has "better" sounding music, it sounds like a bunch of different metals being banged on to make the music
SNES version looks slightly better, but sounds like it was recorded in a cave.
In terms of sound, both are great! The SNES version is fitting for a cartoon, while the Genesis version is close to an actual arcade Pac-Man game.
fun pac-man 2 : the new adventures 1994 sega genesis - parallel gameplay !!!!
I got two things.
1. I added this game to my SNES Collection, but I only play Pac-Man and Ms Pac-Man on it.
2. Would you mind if you do Grobda Version Comparison video someday?
God knows what they did with the sound on the SNES version but it sounds like it's playing in an echo chamber or something. :-o
The SNES version looks nicer all round (more colours on screen, better colour choices, not stretched, additional window/masking effects in interiors, some Mode 7 scaling on the intro, proper transparency on things like clouds and lasers in later levels, more background layers and extra parallax in some of later levels too, etc), but the Genesis version sounds much better (not like it's playing in some tunnel).
Genesis is the Best in My Opinion!!👍👌
When I was younger I preferred SNES but now Genesis seems way better to me
Something that I don't understand why the Sega port wasn't released in Japan or Europe
my guess is they couldn’t get
a distributor and/or publisher
My son loved pac man 2 on snes
I at one point owned both a SNES and Genesis copies of this now I am on my second copy for the Genesis it only cost me 6 dollars for it at the used game store I like the sound quality of both but the images are more desirable on the SNES port
In the sega génesis emulators the music Is a little glitched there's some music forgetted in the game
In the snes, Blinky is more pink than red. But we dunno why
0:16 Did you see that?
in Sega Genesis version, Super Pacman turned into Pacman in a Frame
No
U lie!
Can't you see? Just play at 0.25x speed!
@@phauloriquelme2657 I tried it but I never saw it
I like the genesis version
What's your favorite?
Snes
@@Kenneth_Loves_his_pet Alright
W opinion
1 thing I like about the genesis is that it almost sounds close to an arcade!
1 thing I do not like about the genesis is the music it does not switch to fast or slow
1 thing i like about the snes it sounds like a cartoon
1 thing i do not like about the snes is that it has too much "reverb" or echoes
Both are good but in my opinion is the snes
I like Genesis and SNES the same
I dunno which one sounds better
and GENESIS gives me Sonic vibes
In the sega génesis emulators the music Is a little glitched there's some music forgotten in the game
Hey, is anyone gonna talk about when the pac man gets mad the music goes faster and when hes sad the music goes slower in the SNES version and not in the Genesis version
I Choose The Genesis! Because I Love Voice Clip Of Genesis! But This SNES Audio? None, Because This Voice Clip Of SNES Is Neutral
Me I'll just say both versions are good. only that each one has the best and the worst
NES version is better than the Genesis version
El sonido es mejor en sega y el juego tanbien es mejor
Nombre el SNES es mas mejor
Pero si es el mismo nombre 🤦♂️🤦♂️
SNES vs Sega Genesis rematch? Or SNES/Sega Genesis vs. ???
Wow the sound from the SNES one is pretty bad. The Genesis version sounds way more polished.
I Agree with you
SNES one was made more in mind for Surround Sound, and will sound much better on a TV that uses stereo surround sound. The voice effects on the Genesis though suffer from awful scratchiness, a problem few developers could overcome (Game Freak was one of those few with Pulse Man, but even that has a scratchy nature to it, but not of this degree).
@@Bloodreign1 why you don't want to upload any video on your channel your last are 9 years old uploaded?!
I love the reverb
Also if you start an argument in the replies I'm gonna ban ya'll. No cap.
no
Imo genesis sounds better. The snes but way too much reverb.
5:07
AVGN says that the sega genesis version was made by namco and accolade
0:18
Megadrive has a more arcade look whereas the snes has a more pc/amiga feel. Snes music is terrible
I think you've got those backwards as the PC/Amiga pixel-art games of the time always tended to look visually more dated/limited than the arcades. But, whatever you meant, the SNES version definitely looks better, and in some of the later levels very noticeably so. The SNES version sounds terrible though.
I Agree Megadrive/Genesis is Better
@@inceptional I think he meant by the fact SNES features more vibrant colors and Mega Drive features simpler shading and more muted colors, since arcade games in the late 80s had a lot of games go with muted, simpler colors (Karnov, Forgotten Worlds, Gradius 2, and Twinbee come to mind)
@@solarflare9078 The Genesis has a 9-bit 512-colour master palette. The SNES has a 15-bit 32,768-colour master palette. That's a whopping 64x larger. The Genesis can display a max of 4 bits per pixel as a standard option (16 colours) and the SNES a max of 8 bits per pixel as a standard option (256 colours). That's 16x larger.
The SNES not only has the ability to display more vibrant colours than Genesis but also simpler shading and more muted colours too; it just comes down to what the developer prefers to go with on SNES. That's pretty standard affair given the colour capabilities of these consoles compared to each other. It's also true of most arcades of that era too, which are generally able to display many more and nicer colours than Genesis and often more than SNES too.
In this particular game, I think the SNES colours are generally warmer and nicer and gentler on the eyes while the Genesis colours are often somewhat dull yet harsh and garish, which is the typical result of the SNES being able to display more colours with a much larger colour gamut. Pause the video and jump back and forth between 2:53 and 2:58 or between 5:38 and 5:43 and I think you can clearly see the difference, particularly in things like the sky, the background hills/rocks, the grass and fence there.
The SNES audio is indeed really terrible here though. Although it's certainly capable of far better sound that what they pulled off in this particular game.
Wow. I never considered the ghosts point of view before. Pac-Man is a pretty dark concept for a game. Even the original. Now the lore is explained I feel sorry for the ghosts. Also, this is one of the strangest games ever made.
SNES wins as Genesis port borked the aspect, music is a bit too harsh and colours to primary. I think that was a choice though because Sega would encourage brighter colours and Nintendo the opposite. 512 (+dark and light variants) still have more subtle greens and yellows than that.
Both look fine but SNES sounds WAY better
Actually Genesis sounds better
Definitely MegaDrive\Genesis
SNES btw.
Sega® genesis is better It Sounds good 👍
snes is more better cause music
Arguable.
And better graphics.
snes is my favorate version
Okay I really don't know what's the matter with some of you guys ears LOL but it's obvious that the SUPER NINTENDO VERSION of Pac-Man2 is a lot better and his expression is more understanding and Funny. NOW the Sega GENESIS Version is just Plan annoying, I just don't understand how some people can't see that but everybody's different I guess though. Oh and the Graphics on SNES Is better 💯💯
Sorry bud but i like the sega version more and i have great ears.
Me gusta pero mi juego esta en frances
Genesis vision
Toth
I play Sens on my phone
Genesis wins by far
Music on snes version is glitched.
So it's not supposed to sound like this then? Because it honestly sounds terrible.
@@inceptional Exactly just after hearing the Sega version its noticeable snes version sound off tone.
@@ferhound I honestly think maybe there's a bug in the SNES version's sound code or something and the developer just didn't realise. Or maybe it sounds much worse via emulation than on a real TV or something, but that isn't a problem I've noticed with any other emulated SNES games. If that sound is intentional then it's honestly just terrible.
@@inceptional believeme me I was raised by the Genesis ver. played the game on both hardware and emulated, they are perfectly replicated. Snes sounds wrong.
@@ferhound Yeah, the developer messed up on SNES.
era broma es snes
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sega is more fastes sprite. fast game
They play the same speed, I know because I own a copy for both consoles.
If you weren't blind you actually notice it's not faster.
no snes es sega genesis
cool
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Genesis for sure
@@Kenneth_Loves_his_pet I own both and Genesis is definitely better.
the pac man 2 new adventures for super nintendo everone is god buth of the genesis is ugly
Resolution snes sucks!
theres a lot more color variation tho, i still prefer the snes for being colorful.
@@antarcticpenguin1151 I prefer genesis, you see more!
@@elel. its alright if you like the genesis, i respect that, but i have a softer spot for the snes port.
@@elel. nah, they both have the same visible area, maybe if you watched the video you would notice that. that’s because they both run at the same resolution
Nonsense.
On a real CRT, there was no such differences