SENTINEL DESERVED TO DIE! But I'm glad Optimus stopped Megatron after because he was out of control. All these comments saying the same thing like "awful take" to kill him. F*** Sentinel He's literally HITLER
yea i think with enough practice he can perfect it, Henry is the one that really bugs me for some reason, i do think by the end it’s a serviceable Meg voice but for the sequel i really hope they at least put some effect over it to make it closer to g1 if they’re not gonna get Welker or Cullen, Soundwave & Shockwave were the best voices for me but they’re pretty hard to mess up, good examples though of how effects make the voice sometimes.
43:14 this immediate shift from Sentinel getting his to Orion getting shot was such a similar reaction in the theater. The whole theater went silent for that scene. We knew that D would always become a Megatron, but to be able to create such a conflict despite knowing the outcome is the chefs kiss.
49:08 Wild detail that got confirmed by the director: you can see tear stains on Megatron's face that are almost identical to the energon blood marks that G1 Megatron had in the original movie. And they aren't there when he dropped Orion, so he probably cried as a response to killing and/or fighting his best friend. And his lip quivers a bit when he calls him Prime after the fight is over, making it look like he almost called him Pax but had to remind himself that his friend was gone.
@@erynnmurphy2996it’s from a key and peele episode where Key is a teachers sub and he does roll call and one of the students name is Aaron but he pronounced it A-A-ron
I think what Orion was trying to stop was D-16 going down a dark path even further. All the bots they killed previously was self defence, but what D was going to do to Sentinel was kill him in cold blood. In other words, murder. So he didn’t try to stop D because of that trope, he didn’t want his friend and brother to become a cold blooded killer. Especially when he use to be such a wholesome and loyal bot😢
Weren’t all the others just drones and no sparks? ( they are called death trackers in the movie and I noticed their voices are extremely robotic compared to others so my though is they are drones
This was also the first act of the new regime that would replace Sentinel’s government, and Orion didn’t want to start it off with an extrajudicial execution. I imagine that Orion had fully intended on having a fair trial to decide Sentinel’s fate, but D-16 let his hatred and anger blind him to the greater political ramifications of what would come *after* killing Sentinel. Optimus wanted long term justice that would lead to a free and fair society, Megatron wanted immediate punishment which would lead to a society dominated by force and “might-makes-right” ideology. This is what separates the Autobots from the Decepticons.
Murdering a defeated opponent on the ground who is actively begging for his life just because you really wanna is, in fact, a not good thing and would, in fact, not help Megatron NOT be crazy. Optimus never says they'll let him go, or even live - Megatron never asks, cares, or listens.
facts, if he just took some time to collect himself then they could come up with a compromise but Megatron and his rage blinded him to the dark side and he most likely will never come back to the light or see things how Optimus sees them
Agreed, Orion wanted Sentinel to face the judgment of everyone he hurt, megatron as you said just cares about what effects him personally, and he wasn't the only victim of sentinel. He even turned out to be worse than him, after he more or less planned to kill anyone who wasn't actively supporting his temper tantrum.
I love the detail at 48:47 where you can clearly see that Optimus deliberately changes the angle of his axe as soon as it has gone through Megatron's cannon, to make sure he doesn't his his head. It's such a tiny detail, but says so much about Optimus.
42:33 It’s a movie trope but it’s not wrong. He literally becomes the next Sentinel right after killing him, there’s 0 denying that. He goes from being a slave to being a fascist dictator that treats his people like slaves in the name of alleged “freedom.”
Optimus is very correct, if you kill someone out of hate, then you can never be something better, Cybertron needs peace, and peace can never begin with hate, as seen with D.
“No no no, pause!” Everyone is seriously missing the point. Everyone has been wrong. Orion knew that killing Sentinel would change D forever for the worse. He knew that there was no going back for him. He knew that he was mentally unstable and that that action alone would change him into something worse. He was horrified that by what he was changing into and didn’t want him to make that last tiny jump.
52:02... YES, we ABSOLUTELY need a sequel to this. More than one... Transformers ONE... the birth of Megatron and Optimus Prime Transformers RISE... the Autobots rebuild Cybertron and defend it from the Quintessons, while the Decepticons begin their plans for conquest Transformers FALL... with the repelling of the Quintessons, the Autobots are weakened and the Decepticons make their move. The start of all-out Cybertronian war Just a thought... 😁
So, apparently it only just hit the UK last week. Last I heard it was at a takeaway of 104 million on a 75 million dollar budget so it doesn't hit that "Double your budget" rule of profit. But rumor has it the cost was split between Paramount, Hasbro, and I forgot who else so assuming that accurate there's a chance it could be considered a success for a sequel if the costs were split.
"If we kill him we're no better than him" is pretty overused sometimes, but it makes sense in this case because Orion literally saw his best friend becoming an evil dictator. So. Yea. Megatron DID become like Sentinel. Orion was just trying to prevent it, and sadly he failed.
The symbolic dichotomy during the silent scene after D-16 drops Orion is heartbreaking. One of them is falling and the other is rising. Yet the one who is rising literally is the one who falls. And the one who is falling literally is the one to rise.
I watched this reaction video four times now. I need to timestamp my favourite part so I can rewatch this the fifth time 43:12 The glee 43:15 The shock 43:28 The regret 43:40 The resignation 44:00 The fall I love that even as a long time fan of transformers, you KNOW theyre going to be the worst of enemies. But it still comes of as a surprise.
This film is incredible. It's alright that the audience sympathizes with D 16. Once he becomes Megatron though there's no going back, he's the villain 100%. He's now going to become worse than Sentinel ever was, I'm ready. The Tyrant is here.
Yeah fs. He’s supposed to be the same as like Dooku- you’re supposed to sympathize w how they started as they had the right motives but understand that they went off the rails eventually
Even as D-16, once he learned the truth, he wasn’t seeking justice for his fellow Cybertronians. He was looking for vengeance because HE felt betrayed. Because HE was angry and felt wronged. And once he had that taste of power he went down the same path Sentinel did. Unlike Orion, he never looked at the bigger picture.
@StevenJG Yes, Megatron was always in it for himself. He even worshipped Megatronus Prime because he was told Megatronus was the STRONGEST, the BIGGEST, the BADDEST. No talk of his morals, his leadership skills. D and Megatron worshipped power above all else. While Optimus actually believes in his people. From the moment we see him, it's made clear. Orions' goal is to find the matrix to free the citizens of the system.
@@chozochiefxiii3298 Heck, the only way Orion was able to convince D to come was by saying he’d get recognition and glory if he found it for Sentinel. In the end, the king is dead, long live the king. And thank god Optimus stepped up when he did.
If “Babe” is my favorite Live-Action movie of all time. Then “Transformers ONE” is now my favorite animated movie of all time!! I have never instantly fall in love with a movie until now. Usually it takes a while for me to love and appreciate a movie, but this was different!! I have wanted a movie like this for a very long time!!!
Fun fact the main theme is a mix of many classic TF soundtracks like the first Bay films arrival on earth and Primes main theme. They really should have held off on relaasing this to streaming for a while longer. It was just stating to pick up steam and we need it to make money to guarantee a sequel. They released it at a bad time against Wild Robot
You know this is going to be good when Drav pulls out the generation 1 toy backstory trauma Also I'm so happy you actually saw the original show! I watched it for the first time just this year, so it's SO awesome being able to experience this movie soon afterwards! This is the BEST Transformer's movie for sure
nah i can't blame prime after what megatron did INSTANTLY after inserting the new cog into his chest, he literally went "ok i killed him and properly messed sentinel up, the prime i idolized is now been properly avenged, but i want more so i've gone from murdering sentinel, to just killing everyone related to him and or followed him, and destroying everything with his face on it." unfortunately, the entire city had lots of stuff, made in his theme and also with his face plastered all over the place, so yeah XD if megatron just stopped at killing sentinel and was like "yeah lets be better and rise up to be our own bot!" also as a side note, politics did play a major part in like why killing sentinel, imagine how future generations of bots would look back at megatron tearing em half, they would idolize his brutality, and it would inspire more people to be just as brutal, and influence em, to be just as brutal to your enemies.
You deserve more subs and credit brother. This is one of two reactions I’ve seen that are actually amazing. And the fact that you knew all 3 main decepticons of the high guard is just great. I look forward to your channel
Your reaction to the fight scenes was so hype 😭 the combat in this is NO JOKE. That final fight with OP and megs had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. And the way you stood up for OP's speech 😂 a true fan!
Out of all the origin interpretations, I genuinely believe this one is the best. It feels so grounded, real, emotional, relatable, like I actually rooted for Megatron. And even though I knew in the end, they'd be enemies, I desperately wanted them to stay together. Their friendship was so good, I loved how much they supported each other and to see it wither away was legitimately heartbreaking.
This movie was done dirty, from the marketing to some early reviews, such as IGN's, giving the inpression that this movie was lesser than it actually was. This is hands down, bar none, the best Transformers film to come out since the 80's. I am so aggrevated that most people were turned off from seeing be ause of the trailers and poor marketing, because I was one of them. It took a nonspoiler review to get me to say "Okay, I guess I'll go see it," and damn it it was awesome. This movie deserves better than it's getting and if we don't get a sequel we riot.
Bro watching this was like watching it with a friend, your energy is so awesome and you can tell you are such a fan of this franchise! Great channel, got a new sub from me bro!
It’s just sickening that the trailers pushed me away from wanting to watch this movie ever. Luckily the reviews after the movie released made me go to watch in theater and see if it really was the best transformers movie. Went 2 times to the theater with my younger sibling, bought the digital, and plan to buy the steelbook soon. 11/10 movie
@@centurynerdbr the movie had a serious tone that was never even hinted in the trailers. It really looked like a child friendly movie where i would watch and forget within the month which is the type of movie me and others usually pass on, but the fact that this movie had such a crazy build up and emotional moments proves that they could’ve done to better to further persuade the adult watchers to go and see an absolute unit of a movie. Trailers is what determines what kind of movie it will be and making it seem like your casual everyday kids movie was not the best choice to present it as.
@@centurynerdbr not really what i meant by that. More or less something to show that the movie is going somewhere and isn’t a one off origin story with outdated humor meant for kids. The majority of transformers fans have been fed more disappointing movies than good and it leads to us being less excited for whatever gets announced after. I know the trailer isn’t the only factor that played a role in the movie’s failure in the box office but first impressions is insanely important for any kind of audience.
@@centurynerdbr not even going to comment on the humor point. A serious tone could include the primes corpses or the state of cybertron not being too hot( neither are spoilers and it’s enough to show that it’s more than a go fun adventure).The TF fans was a mixed bag of good, bad, or mid. Personally it was funny and enjoyable but it was cut too short for the villains and the beasts themselves even though it’s called “rise of the beasts” it was by default an underwhelming movie but i don’t mind, just wished it had more.
@@centurynerdbr you haven’t really said anything else besides repeat yourself. There is absolutely no hate towards a go fun adventure movie, the biggest issue with it is that people will confidently pass on a movie because they believe they are not going to miss out on anything; The hate stems from the marketing misleading people from watching an awesome movie in the theater, case in point is this guy reacting feeling guilty for not watching it in theaters. So just keep this in your head, TF fans will always complain about something that’s just the fandom and the hate you see for the trailers was after people saw the movie and realized they were technically lied to as to what the movie was going to be, simple as that can be.
Orion wasn’t saying we won’t kill him, but Sentinel right then was defeated and defenseless. A proper trial was required, plus Orion knew D was so full of anger he couldn’t see beyond revenge and was trying reel him in
I heard a theory that there are actually two chromia in the movie one cogless and the other that won the race. The chromia that won the race was theorized to be mirage because when the race started you could his name in first place on the board
Yeah i agree w u on that trope. I think it would’ve been better if sentinel straight up surrendered to go to jail but megatron was like nah and tried to off him anyways. That would probably make optimus a bit more reasonable imo
I mean Optimus is also a history nerd, he knows full well off of his research that starting a new era off with a cold blooded execution or taking power into your own hands by becoming judge jury and executioner doesn't generally end well. Every other instance of them fighting or killing was in self defence. The guy is pretty reasonable for wanting his buddy to not become a cold-blooded murderer when sentinel could've faced justice through legal proceedings imo.
@@therealangelalexander1858 that’s 100% reasonable too, makes sense. Even with that, i think one or two additional lines on his perspective would’ve been good, but still as a whole i think optimus was more justified anyways
@hdudhehdhd2222 Maybe he could've said, "Don't let your rage blind you. It's not too late." Or something along those lines and it may have (well, probably not) eased his chances of getting D back.
I agree, hands down, this is the best Transformers movie. Period! Don't feel too bad about not seeing it in theaters homie, you got it on digital (I'm buying the physical 4k steelbook), this will contribute to it's sales. What is even more infuriating, is that it had such a long theater release window for international audiences after it released in North America. The Uk waited weeks, same with Japan, and France didn't get it until the same day as it went to digital release. Some regions complained about an awful dub, and the first trailer was terrible!! It made it seem like a kids cartoon full of non-stop jokes, which turned off a lot of people from seeing it. It's almost like Paramount wanted it to fail, wtf!
43:00 If only it was a mere trope mate. It really happens. In 2000 my country had a revolution against a vicious socialist regime, and after a 10 year long struggle those who toppled them said 'there will be no revenge, we're better than them'...and a mere decade later more or less all remnants of the regime regroup, rebrand and climb back on top, and we live in authoritarian cesspool once again. While the neighbouring Romania does the Megatron-style vengeful 'clean up' of their identical, vicious dictatorship, no mercy, and now flourishes...
The way you rated the live-action movies is actually not a hot take at all, but a general consensus on them the fandom's come to over the years from what I know.
Transformers g1 re-aired back in 2005. I was around 6 or 7 at the time, and that was my introduction into the Transformers Universe. I am so happy that that was my introduction into the series, the movies, the games, all of it. Transformers has been a huge part of my childhood, and I love how I haven't grown tired of it sense then
Way to make me feel old... I was 25 in 2005! 😂 I haven't grown tired of it either - despite some of Michael Bay's best efforts! - sometimes a franchise grabs you and you stick with it.
sameee, i watched G1 around that time, and i was around that age too! im so glad i grew up with g1 then bayverse, and now this movie sure feels like a love letter to the fans, shame for the marketing team being shitty at their job tho
@serbukmomogi it would've made the scene where Orion get blasted by D-16 so much more emotional if they played the Optimus Prime death scene music from the g1 movie though!
Alright and allow me to explain in the best of my ability why that "Don't kill him, we're better than this" trope is important. Lets explain it with Batman. Alright so Batman is a vigilante, stopping crime, punching bad guys and throwing them in jail right?. Now, imagine if instead he would stop pulling his punches and started to kill people left and right. Lets say he kills a criminal- a random thug robbing a bank. Sure, he stopped the crime and eliminated the problem permamently. However, it turns out that criminal was actually stealing money because he had mouths to feed and a family to support. A family that will deeply miss him and the child will grow to resent Batman, thus creating another criminal. Or as a result of that action, every citizen in Gotham will think that this is the proper way to exact justice, therefore people in Gotham will start killing each other whenever someone as much as mildly inconvinences, the killer being driven by strictly personal reasons rather than exacting justice. Now, if hypotheticaly Optimus joined in and killed Sentinel here, the people of Iacon would be terrified, afraid that history is repeating when the Primes were killed and Sentinel took over. Not to mention immidiately afterwards Megatron started blasting at the city. The reason this trope exists is because heroes are not about just punishing the bad guys but also saving people. And not just the good ones- EVERYONE . Because I think that everyone deserves a chance to be better and change. And if not, then at the very least punishment should be about rehabilitation- not straight up execution (or at least not in ALL cases). At that point Sentinel's lies had already seen the light of day. He was already exposed for the fraud he was. He lost all the power over Iacon and it's not like he could just go to the Quintessons for shelter and help- they would immidiately rip him to shreds so banishment- just like in Megatron's case would be more than a fitting punishment. Following the "kill all bad guys" logic, Optimus should have just killed Megatron there. Why didnt he do that then? Because he saw his friend still in there and hoped that one day, one faithfull day would come and he will be able to save his dear friend and redeem him. Killing isn't justice. I think people tend to forget that a lot.
Its kind of amazing how so many people completely miss the whole point of Orion stopping D in that moment. Especially after what happens just after he kills Sentinel.
who ever did the advertising of this movie should be fired because they did not do this movie justice, I've been a tf fan since i could SIT, and will continue until i die, this is my life and this movie deserves justice because i rate it 1000000000000/10
So I agree that the trope of "oh well if we execute the dictator how does that make us better than them?" is old and tired, but, I think here it was more of a "It won't stop at Sentinel, lest we go around and start executing everyone right now we need to take a moment to actually talk about this now that everyone knows the truth."
Trust me the fandom that’s actually seen this movie loves it, I feel like most hate is coming from g1 fans that won’t give it a chance at all; reason I think that being comments like it didn’t do enough for the older fans, like what?!?! This was made for fans idk what they are talking about
From TF fans who've actually seen it I've seen nothing but love. I'm a G1 fan, started watching TF when it first aired (yes, I'm old lol), and I loved it! There was plenty of fan service in the movie... But then, I'm always open to new interpretations of things I'm a fan of, some others unfortunately not so much. Some "fans" seem to want everything to stay exactly as they have it in their head, and they tend to be the most vocal who ruin franchises for everyone else.
@@DiscoRaptor exactly! There’s jokes you’d only get if you know g1! I had a older gentlemen at my first showing that definitly grew up with g1 and he loved it too like you did. Hopefully more of the fandom comes around this was totally made with love
I did not just see you say Megatron was in the right for killing Sentinel Like, he absolutely deserves death, but I think the whole idea with the movie is that seeking death is NOT the way to go
"If we kill him were no better..." So many shows and movies use it, that's what I was getting at. Plus yeah this is megatron so he's absolutely right. I definitely do not have a Batman mindset so I'm all for revenge and killing him. IDGAF ABOUT SENTINEL PRIME
I was just wondering if Orion Pax didn't say those words to D16 and said something else and say you just like Sentiment Prime? No One wants to be compared to a monster or a corrupted leader.
It’s a shame that those now discovering that this is a good movie didn’t trust those of us who saw it in theaters enough when we told them it was very good and to go support this movie at the box office.
BEST .... TRANSFORMERS .... MOVIE .... EVER!!!!!!! The 86 movie was top of my list, all the way through til this one. Bumblebee up there too. I do not like the disrespect that Bay has towards the actual Transformers as characters, so, none of them I would consider as true transformers movies. They're human and US military movies, with some transforming robots thrown in. But I agree about this one, peak movie. I saw it twice in the cinema, I've never done that before. I want to see this movie over, and over, and over again.
Orion wasn't exactly against killing Sentinel. He was thinking more in the long term about the ramifications of a public execution delivered to an already defeated and powerless enemy. He was trying to save D from himself here, not say that killing is wrong. I don't understand how so many people didn't realize that.
Megatron must have the right for revenge with that intense emotion and sentinel really do deserve that death and that's everyone will do. What Optimus did before dying was what everyone wouldn't do for the sake of good. That's why most people relates to villains than heroes.
I'm guessing that the scene where the autobots in the end of Optimus prime's speech are in the surface because they are going to war with the quintessons.
Everyone who sees this, please go see the movie in theaters, if it doesnt make more in theaters they wont make a sequel and i need a sequel. How we let this peak bomb at the box office i dont know
SENTINEL DESERVED TO DIE! But I'm glad Optimus stopped Megatron after because he was out of control. All these comments saying the same thing like "awful take" to kill him. F*** Sentinel He's literally HITLER
He's more like Trump selling out to the Russians.
I mean not 'literally' as he didn't kill an entire race. However he was an awful person.
I heard/read that Chris hemsworth actually consulted with Peter Cullen for the role, so that he could do the role justice.
I did doubt him but oh boyyyy did he deliver. Amazing work
yea i think with enough practice he can perfect it, Henry is the one that really bugs me for some reason, i do think by the end it’s a serviceable Meg voice but for the sequel i really hope they at least put some effect over it to make it closer to g1 if they’re not gonna get Welker or Cullen, Soundwave & Shockwave were the best voices for me but they’re pretty hard to mess up, good examples though of how effects make the voice sometimes.
I had a lot of faith in him from the start, but man, he surprised me
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43:14 this immediate shift from Sentinel getting his to Orion getting shot was such a similar reaction in the theater. The whole theater went silent for that scene. We knew that D would always become a Megatron, but to be able to create such a conflict despite knowing the outcome is the chefs kiss.
49:08 Wild detail that got confirmed by the director: you can see tear stains on Megatron's face that are almost identical to the energon blood marks that G1 Megatron had in the original movie. And they aren't there when he dropped Orion, so he probably cried as a response to killing and/or fighting his best friend. And his lip quivers a bit when he calls him Prime after the fight is over, making it look like he almost called him Pax but had to remind himself that his friend was gone.
I'm glad other people got the a-a-tron joke 😂
What's the joke?
@@erynnmurphy2996it’s from a key and peele episode where Key is a teachers sub and he does roll call and one of the students name is Aaron but he pronounced it A-A-ron
I lost my mind when k heard it in the theatre.
YESSS, had know idea he was bumblebee until then. PERFECT
I let that one slide me 😂 until now
I think what Orion was trying to stop was D-16 going down a dark path even further. All the bots they killed previously was self defence, but what D was going to do to Sentinel was kill him in cold blood. In other words, murder. So he didn’t try to stop D because of that trope, he didn’t want his friend and brother to become a cold blooded killer. Especially when he use to be such a wholesome and loyal bot😢
That's exactly what it was. Orion was trying to save his brother from himself.
And they already won. All of them know the truth about the whole thing. But yeah it was not enough for D16
Weren’t all the others just drones and no sparks? ( they are called death trackers in the movie and I noticed their voices are extremely robotic compared to others so my though is they are drones
They were drones just like the tfp Steve vehicons. They even look extremely similar
This was also the first act of the new regime that would replace Sentinel’s government, and Orion didn’t want to start it off with an extrajudicial execution.
I imagine that Orion had fully intended on having a fair trial to decide Sentinel’s fate, but D-16 let his hatred and anger blind him to the greater political ramifications of what would come *after* killing Sentinel.
Optimus wanted long term justice that would lead to a free and fair society, Megatron wanted immediate punishment which would lead to a society dominated by force and “might-makes-right” ideology. This is what separates the Autobots from the Decepticons.
Murdering a defeated opponent on the ground who is actively begging for his life just because you really wanna is, in fact, a not good thing and would, in fact, not help Megatron NOT be crazy. Optimus never says they'll let him go, or even live - Megatron never asks, cares, or listens.
facts, if he just took some time to collect himself then they could come up with a compromise but Megatron and his rage blinded him to the dark side and he most likely will never come back to the light or see things how Optimus sees them
Fr they couldve gave him a execution by justice not murder.
D-16 was in the wrong, he only thought for himself, not thinking about others.
Agreed, Orion wanted Sentinel to face the judgment of everyone he hurt, megatron as you said just cares about what effects him personally, and he wasn't the only victim of sentinel.
He even turned out to be worse than him, after he more or less planned to kill anyone who wasn't actively supporting his temper tantrum.
I love the detail at 48:47 where you can clearly see that Optimus deliberately changes the angle of his axe as soon as it has gone through Megatron's cannon, to make sure he doesn't his his head. It's such a tiny detail, but says so much about Optimus.
42:33 It’s a movie trope but it’s not wrong. He literally becomes the next Sentinel right after killing him, there’s 0 denying that. He goes from being a slave to being a fascist dictator that treats his people like slaves in the name of alleged “freedom.”
Yes, and Orion's actions gave D 16 a choice to not do it.
Optimus is very correct, if you kill someone out of hate, then you can never be something better, Cybertron needs peace, and peace can never begin with hate, as seen with D.
“No no no, pause!” Everyone is seriously missing the point. Everyone has been wrong. Orion knew that killing Sentinel would change D forever for the worse. He knew that there was no going back for him. He knew that he was mentally unstable and that that action alone would change him into something worse. He was horrified that by what he was changing into and didn’t want him to make that last tiny jump.
Watching most reactors really does worry me you know..
@@izzymania92 Yes definitely, makes you wonder what they would do in similar circumstances that give them power 😬😵💫
52:02... YES, we ABSOLUTELY need a sequel to this. More than one...
Transformers ONE... the birth of Megatron and Optimus Prime
Transformers RISE... the Autobots rebuild Cybertron and defend it from the Quintessons, while the Decepticons begin their plans for conquest
Transformers FALL... with the repelling of the Quintessons, the Autobots are weakened and the Decepticons make their move. The start of all-out Cybertronian war
Just a thought... 😁
Transformers: Rise of DiscoRaptor
The movie titles sounds really good
So, apparently it only just hit the UK last week. Last I heard it was at a takeaway of 104 million on a 75 million dollar budget so it doesn't hit that "Double your budget" rule of profit.
But rumor has it the cost was split between Paramount, Hasbro, and I forgot who else so assuming that accurate there's a chance it could be considered a success for a sequel if the costs were split.
"If we kill him we're no better than him" is pretty overused sometimes, but it makes sense in this case because Orion literally saw his best friend becoming an evil dictator.
So. Yea. Megatron DID become like Sentinel. Orion was just trying to prevent it, and sadly he failed.
When normal people get angry, they pop a vein
When megatron getd angry he pops out a fucking fusion cannon
The symbolic dichotomy during the silent scene after D-16 drops Orion is heartbreaking. One of them is falling and the other is rising. Yet the one who is rising literally is the one who falls. And the one who is falling literally is the one to rise.
I saw this in theaters twice. It was an amazing experience. And yes, whoever was in charge of marketing should not be employed there anymore
I watched this reaction video four times now. I need to timestamp my favourite part so I can rewatch this the fifth time
43:12 The glee
43:15 The shock
43:28 The regret
43:40 The resignation
44:00 The fall
I love that even as a long time fan of transformers, you KNOW theyre going to be the worst of enemies. But it still comes of as a surprise.
Thanks for the love, I recently watched it again with some family.
Convincing people to buy the movie is now my job.
48:00 Bro is actually dying bro 💀
The last 30 mins of the movie were rough 😅
I THOUGHT YOU WERE CASEOH FOR A SECOND, HOMIE 💀💀💀 (but fr tho, TF One is a peak film and the film of the year!!)
🎉Shout out all the Transformers fans, y’all my people frfr ❤
This film is incredible. It's alright that the audience sympathizes with D 16. Once he becomes Megatron though there's no going back, he's the villain 100%. He's now going to become worse than Sentinel ever was, I'm ready. The Tyrant is here.
Yeah fs. He’s supposed to be the same as like Dooku- you’re supposed to sympathize w how they started as they had the right motives but understand that they went off the rails eventually
Even as D-16, once he learned the truth, he wasn’t seeking justice for his fellow Cybertronians.
He was looking for vengeance because HE felt betrayed. Because HE was angry and felt wronged.
And once he had that taste of power he went down the same path Sentinel did.
Unlike Orion, he never looked at the bigger picture.
@StevenJG Yes, Megatron was always in it for himself. He even worshipped Megatronus Prime because he was told Megatronus was the STRONGEST, the BIGGEST, the BADDEST. No talk of his morals, his leadership skills. D and Megatron worshipped power above all else. While Optimus actually believes in his people. From the moment we see him, it's made clear. Orions' goal is to find the matrix to free the citizens of the system.
@@chozochiefxiii3298 Heck, the only way Orion was able to convince D to come was by saying he’d get recognition and glory if he found it for Sentinel.
In the end, the king is dead, long live the king.
And thank god Optimus stepped up when he did.
@@StevenJG If Optimus didn't rise when he did, I'm sure Iacon would have turned into the site of a mass massacre.
If “Babe” is my favorite Live-Action movie of all time.
Then “Transformers ONE” is now my favorite animated movie of all time!! I have never instantly fall in love with a movie until now. Usually it takes a while for me to love and appreciate a movie, but this was different!! I have wanted a movie like this for a very long time!!!
Fun fact the main theme is a mix of many classic TF soundtracks like the first Bay films arrival on earth and Primes main theme.
They really should have held off on relaasing this to streaming for a while longer. It was just stating to pick up steam and we need it to make money to guarantee a sequel. They released it at a bad time against Wild Robot
Not only these. "The Fall" (The theme which plays when D-16 kills Sentinel) also has a part from Fall of Cybertron final duel.
@sorokabeloboka8818 and part of the death of optimus prime from the '86 movie right?
Dude the transformers prime music got me tearing up
YES!!! I didn't think anybody else noticed that! ❤
@@healeychantel this movie was tf perfection
You know this is going to be good when Drav pulls out the generation 1 toy backstory trauma
Also I'm so happy you actually saw the original show! I watched it for the first time just this year, so it's SO awesome being able to experience this movie soon afterwards! This is the BEST Transformer's movie for sure
☠️ Yeah a rewatch might be in order
nah i can't blame prime after what megatron did INSTANTLY after inserting the new cog into his chest, he literally went "ok i killed him and properly messed sentinel up, the prime i idolized is now been properly avenged, but i want more so i've gone from murdering sentinel, to just killing everyone related to him and or followed him, and destroying everything with his face on it."
unfortunately, the entire city had lots of stuff, made in his theme and also with his face plastered all over the place, so yeah XD if megatron just stopped at killing sentinel and was like "yeah lets be better and rise up to be our own bot!" also as a side note, politics did play a major part in like why killing sentinel, imagine how future generations of bots would look back at megatron tearing em half, they would idolize his brutality, and it would inspire more people to be just as brutal, and influence em, to be just as brutal to your enemies.
You deserve more subs and credit brother. This is one of two reactions I’ve seen that are actually amazing. And the fact that you knew all 3 main decepticons of the high guard is just great. I look forward to your channel
I loved this movie so much that I somehow ended up watching a bunch of these reactions and I gotta say, yours is by far the best
Thanks 🙏 for the love
Your reaction to the fight scenes was so hype 😭 the combat in this is NO JOKE. That final fight with OP and megs had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. And the way you stood up for OP's speech 😂 a true fan!
Out of all the origin interpretations, I genuinely believe this one is the best. It feels so grounded, real, emotional, relatable, like I actually rooted for Megatron. And even though I knew in the end, they'd be enemies, I desperately wanted them to stay together. Their friendship was so good, I loved how much they supported each other and to see it wither away was legitimately heartbreaking.
This movie was done dirty, from the marketing to some early reviews, such as IGN's, giving the inpression that this movie was lesser than it actually was. This is hands down, bar none, the best Transformers film to come out since the 80's. I am so aggrevated that most people were turned off from seeing be ause of the trailers and poor marketing, because I was one of them. It took a nonspoiler review to get me to say "Okay, I guess I'll go see it," and damn it it was awesome. This movie deserves better than it's getting and if we don't get a sequel we riot.
Bro watching this was like watching it with a friend, your energy is so awesome and you can tell you are such a fan of this franchise! Great channel, got a new sub from me bro!
Much love 😁
So many little things that will go over people's heads (and that's ok) but if you're a Transformers fan you will absolutely love.
makes watching the movie again worth it too
If orion sided with d-16 he will not earn the matrix of leadership and becoming optimus prime.
That's the reaction video I was looking for!!! I watched about five of them and Your's satisfied me the most🔥👌
Glad you enjoyed! 😎
Its awesome to see you get all hyped up like a kid 😁
It’s just sickening that the trailers pushed me away from wanting to watch this movie ever. Luckily the reviews after the movie released made me go to watch in theater and see if it really was the best transformers movie. Went 2 times to the theater with my younger sibling, bought the digital, and plan to buy the steelbook soon. 11/10 movie
Same exact story here brother 😂 12/10 movie and already got the steelbook pre ordered. My new favorite transformers movie for sure
@@centurynerdbr the movie had a serious tone that was never even hinted in the trailers. It really looked like a child friendly movie where i would watch and forget within the month which is the type of movie me and others usually pass on, but the fact that this movie had such a crazy build up and emotional moments proves that they could’ve done to better to further persuade the adult watchers to go and see an absolute unit of a movie. Trailers is what determines what kind of movie it will be and making it seem like your casual everyday kids movie was not the best choice to present it as.
@@centurynerdbr not really what i meant by that. More or less something to show that the movie is going somewhere and isn’t a one off origin story with outdated humor meant for kids. The majority of transformers fans have been fed more disappointing movies than good and it leads to us being less excited for whatever gets announced after. I know the trailer isn’t the only factor that played a role in the movie’s failure in the box office but first impressions is insanely important for any kind of audience.
@@centurynerdbr not even going to comment on the humor point. A serious tone could include the primes corpses or the state of cybertron not being too hot( neither are spoilers and it’s enough to show that it’s more than a go fun adventure).The TF fans was a mixed bag of good, bad, or mid. Personally it was funny and enjoyable but it was cut too short for the villains and the beasts themselves even though it’s called “rise of the beasts” it was by default an underwhelming movie but i don’t mind, just wished it had more.
@@centurynerdbr you haven’t really said anything else besides repeat yourself. There is absolutely no hate towards a go fun adventure movie, the biggest issue with it is that people will confidently pass on a movie because they believe they are not going to miss out on anything; The hate stems from the marketing misleading people from watching an awesome movie in the theater, case in point is this guy reacting feeling guilty for not watching it in theaters. So just keep this in your head, TF fans will always complain about something that’s just the fandom and the hate you see for the trailers was after people saw the movie and realized they were technically lied to as to what the movie was going to be, simple as that can be.
Megatronus is the fallen incase you didn't know, but in this continuity he is a prime and didn't fall
Megatronus did fall in this movie dingus
He got decapitated
@@spin_master ....... You know I never thought of that 😅
Orion wasn’t saying we won’t kill him, but Sentinel right then was defeated and defenseless. A proper trial was required, plus Orion knew D was so full of anger he couldn’t see beyond revenge and was trying reel him in
That lore at the start is crazy lmao
Actually almost being killed by megatron 💀
@ 43:49 - "...I'm done saving you..." 😱😱😱
And you can see Megatron's hand still hanging there after he lets go of Orion, as if he's still processing what he did.
I heard a theory that there are actually two chromia in the movie one cogless and the other that won the race. The chromia that won the race was theorized to be mirage because when the race started you could his name in first place on the board
I was always Team Optimus - To kill in combat or after a trial is justifiable - to kill a defeated person on their knees is murder ( in this context)
Aaayyoooo you just showed me the A-A tron joke 😂😂😂 never noticed that
UNREAL reaction bro you are awesome! This is a goated react to a goated movie. Pure peak.
45:23 fun fact: this music was composed by the same guy who composed the music for Transformers Prime
Yeah i agree w u on that trope. I think it would’ve been better if sentinel straight up surrendered to go to jail but megatron was like nah and tried to off him anyways. That would probably make optimus a bit more reasonable imo
I mean Optimus is also a history nerd, he knows full well off of his research that starting a new era off with a cold blooded execution or taking power into your own hands by becoming judge jury and executioner doesn't generally end well. Every other instance of them fighting or killing was in self defence. The guy is pretty reasonable for wanting his buddy to not become a cold-blooded murderer when sentinel could've faced justice through legal proceedings imo.
I love how basically everything is a reference to other transformers media and Sentinel’s death was a reference to Jazz’s death in the Bayverse 2007.
@@therealangelalexander1858 that’s 100% reasonable too, makes sense. Even with that, i think one or two additional lines on his perspective would’ve been good, but still as a whole i think optimus was more justified anyways
@hdudhehdhd2222 Maybe he could've said, "Don't let your rage blind you. It's not too late." Or something along those lines and it may have (well, probably not) eased his chances of getting D back.
I dont think it was just killing Sentinal, Megatron wanted to destroy the city and kill anybody in his way. That's not okay.
what a great reaction! i loved how passionate you were, keep it up bro!!
I agree, hands down, this is the best Transformers movie. Period! Don't feel too bad about not seeing it in theaters homie, you got it on digital (I'm buying the physical 4k steelbook), this will contribute to it's sales. What is even more infuriating, is that it had such a long theater release window for international audiences after it released in North America. The Uk waited weeks, same with Japan, and France didn't get it until the same day as it went to digital release. Some regions complained about an awful dub, and the first trailer was terrible!! It made it seem like a kids cartoon full of non-stop jokes, which turned off a lot of people from seeing it. It's almost like Paramount wanted it to fail, wtf!
Bro’s acting like it’s controversial to like DOTM. It’s literally the best Bayverse film lol. 2:35
Hahaha 😂 idk what the fandom agrees on but I think Michael Bay receives too much hate sometimes. Definitely has some stinkers but it’s not all bad.
Massive W to this film🔥🔥🔥
43:00 If only it was a mere trope mate. It really happens. In 2000 my country had a revolution against a vicious socialist regime, and after a 10 year long struggle those who toppled them said 'there will be no revenge, we're better than them'...and a mere decade later more or less all remnants of the regime regroup, rebrand and climb back on top, and we live in authoritarian cesspool once again. While the neighbouring Romania does the Megatron-style vengeful 'clean up' of their identical, vicious dictatorship, no mercy, and now flourishes...
The way you rated the live-action movies is actually not a hot take at all, but a general consensus on them the fandom's come to over the years from what I know.
Thee Laurence Fishburne saying "Protect the Matrix" gave me chills! 😤⚔🛡🌪
Transformers g1 re-aired back in 2005. I was around 6 or 7 at the time, and that was my introduction into the Transformers Universe. I am so happy that that was my introduction into the series, the movies, the games, all of it. Transformers has been a huge part of my childhood, and I love how I haven't grown tired of it sense then
Way to make me feel old... I was 25 in 2005! 😂
I haven't grown tired of it either - despite some of Michael Bay's best efforts! - sometimes a franchise grabs you and you stick with it.
sameee, i watched G1 around that time, and i was around that age too!
im so glad i grew up with g1 then bayverse, and now this movie sure feels like a love letter to the fans, shame for the marketing team being shitty at their job tho
@serbukmomogi it would've made the scene where Orion get blasted by D-16 so much more emotional if they played the Optimus Prime death scene music from the g1 movie though!
12:21 "Yes i found something!" And then you missed like the bots on that leader board (just pointing it out)
Yeah it was too quick and I didn't pause
My Fellow Autobots And Decepticons We Must Continue To Support This Movie Till The Day We See A Sequel No Matter The Cost.
This is a true reaction!
Bro that’s a hilarious origin story
Alright and allow me to explain in the best of my ability why that "Don't kill him, we're better than this" trope is important. Lets explain it with Batman. Alright so Batman is a vigilante, stopping crime, punching bad guys and throwing them in jail right?. Now, imagine if instead he would stop pulling his punches and started to kill people left and right. Lets say he kills a criminal- a random thug robbing a bank. Sure, he stopped the crime and eliminated the problem permamently. However, it turns out that criminal was actually stealing money because he had mouths to feed and a family to support. A family that will deeply miss him and the child will grow to resent Batman, thus creating another criminal. Or as a result of that action, every citizen in Gotham will think that this is the proper way to exact justice, therefore people in Gotham will start killing each other whenever someone as much as mildly inconvinences, the killer being driven by strictly personal reasons rather than exacting justice. Now, if hypotheticaly Optimus joined in and killed Sentinel here, the people of Iacon would be terrified, afraid that history is repeating when the Primes were killed and Sentinel took over. Not to mention immidiately afterwards Megatron started blasting at the city. The reason this trope exists is because heroes are not about just punishing the bad guys but also saving people. And not just the good ones- EVERYONE . Because I think that everyone deserves a chance to be better and change. And if not, then at the very least punishment should be about rehabilitation- not straight up execution (or at least not in ALL cases). At that point Sentinel's lies had already seen the light of day. He was already exposed for the fraud he was. He lost all the power over Iacon and it's not like he could just go to the Quintessons for shelter and help- they would immidiately rip him to shreds so banishment- just like in Megatron's case would be more than a fitting punishment. Following the "kill all bad guys" logic, Optimus should have just killed Megatron there. Why didnt he do that then? Because he saw his friend still in there and hoped that one day, one faithfull day would come and he will be able to save his dear friend and redeem him.
Killing isn't justice. I think people tend to forget that a lot.
I love how Soundwave doesn't react to his brother getting punched in the eye lol
I'm with Orion...let Sentinal live. Death is too quick. He deserves to suffer.
Your reaction to Megatron dropping Orion was absolutely golden.
Why did i get caseoh 2 in my recommendation
They say you are what you eat well I guess your Megatron😂
I wish it had done better in the theater. I hope it does better now that it's out. I need a sequel! ❤
LOOKS LIKE PEAK'S BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!
epic reaction brother, its a top tier film
Its kind of amazing how so many people completely miss the whole point of Orion stopping D in that moment. Especially after what happens just after he kills Sentinel.
who ever did the advertising of this movie should be fired because they did not do this movie justice, I've been a tf fan since i could SIT, and will continue until i die, this is my life and this movie deserves justice because i rate it 1000000000000/10
Yess I know I wasn’t the only one who felt like it watching my toys fight in my head as a kid
DECEPTICONS, RISE UP!
So I agree that the trope of "oh well if we execute the dictator how does that make us better than them?" is old and tired, but, I think here it was more of a "It won't stop at Sentinel, lest we go around and start executing everyone right now we need to take a moment to actually talk about this now that everyone knows the truth."
Absolute cinema of the year
Great reaction.
Trust me the fandom that’s actually seen this movie loves it, I feel like most hate is coming from g1 fans that won’t give it a chance at all; reason I think that being comments like it didn’t do enough for the older fans, like what?!?! This was made for fans idk what they are talking about
From TF fans who've actually seen it I've seen nothing but love.
I'm a G1 fan, started watching TF when it first aired (yes, I'm old lol), and I loved it! There was plenty of fan service in the movie...
But then, I'm always open to new interpretations of things I'm a fan of, some others unfortunately not so much. Some "fans" seem to want everything to stay exactly as they have it in their head, and they tend to be the most vocal who ruin franchises for everyone else.
@@DiscoRaptor exactly! There’s jokes you’d only get if you know g1! I had a older gentlemen at my first showing that definitly grew up with g1 and he loved it too like you did. Hopefully more of the fandom comes around this was totally made with love
@@terogates1 "You don't have the touch or the power" genuinely made me LOL 😂
There is a difference between killing in battle and executing a defenseless defeated enemy
I did not just see you say Megatron was in the right for killing Sentinel
Like, he absolutely deserves death, but I think the whole idea with the movie is that seeking death is NOT the way to go
"If we kill him were no better..."
So many shows and movies use it, that's what I was getting at. Plus yeah this is megatron so he's absolutely right. I definitely do not have a Batman mindset so I'm all for revenge and killing him. IDGAF ABOUT SENTINEL PRIME
BEST TRANSFORMERS MOVIE EVER!!!!!!!! SAW THIS MOVIE TWICE IN THEATERS!!!!!!!! MY NEW FAVORITE TRANSFORMERS MOVIE!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately probably isn't a new beginning for transformers, since people didn't bother to see it in cinemas
First time viewer here, I don't know why but the title made me howl
I was just wondering if Orion Pax didn't say
those words to D16 and said something else
and say you just like Sentiment Prime?
No One wants to be compared to a monster or a corrupted leader.
It’s a shame that those now discovering that this is a good movie didn’t trust those of us who saw it in theaters enough when we told them it was very good and to go support this movie at the box office.
BEST .... TRANSFORMERS .... MOVIE .... EVER!!!!!!!
The 86 movie was top of my list, all the way through til this one. Bumblebee up there too. I do not like the disrespect that Bay has towards the actual Transformers as characters, so, none of them I would consider as true transformers movies. They're human and US military movies, with some transforming robots thrown in.
But I agree about this one, peak movie. I saw it twice in the cinema, I've never done that before. I want to see this movie over, and over, and over again.
This should've came out 20 years in the 2000s
Watching it in theaters was peak ❤ saw it 4 times🍿
No it's not even that we can't kill the bad guy but we can totally murder every one of his soldiers😂
Do you know your voice sounds so great.
1:00 W Lore
It seems like he was having much better time than sex (which I can relate).
Anyone else thought that was case oh on the thumbnail?
Dark of the Moon is 100% the best out of the Michael Bay Five
42:38 As much as I disagree with Orion, he is right too! I mean Sentinel did KILLED Alpha in cold blood!
Orion wasn't exactly against killing Sentinel. He was thinking more in the long term about the ramifications of a public execution delivered to an already defeated and powerless enemy. He was trying to save D from himself here, not say that killing is wrong. I don't understand how so many people didn't realize that.
Megatron must have the right for revenge with that intense emotion and sentinel really do deserve that death and that's everyone will do. What Optimus did before dying was what everyone wouldn't do for the sake of good. That's why most people relates to villains than heroes.
Alpha is Indeed Fishburne
I'm guessing that the scene where the autobots in the end of Optimus prime's speech are in the surface because they are going to war with the quintessons.
Hopefully they green light a sequel that focuses on the Cybertronians fighting the quintessons
Everyone who sees this, please go see the movie in theaters, if it doesnt make more in theaters they wont make a sequel and i need a sequel. How we let this peak bomb at the box office i dont know
i love sentinel in this movie and i love that line he use like the truh is what i make it sucks a badass line