Mekkah's Top 8 "Bad" Units

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  • Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
  • Chill video where I talk about units I enjoy using even though they have no place in an efficient run. The units in this video range from garbage to mediocre tier for efficient play, but I like them all anyway.
    Music: • Chill Study Beats 4 • ...
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  • @jackgoncalvez7045
    @jackgoncalvez7045 5 років тому +1476

    Secret book doesn’t work on Gonzalez because he can’t read

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 років тому +108

      Gonzalez can read.
      Lilina taught him to.

    • @adamlozano3787
      @adamlozano3787 5 років тому +74

      What if Nino is only able to read until she has supports with Canas?

    • @adamlozano3787
      @adamlozano3787 5 років тому +13

      and use secret books

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt 5 років тому +190

      He eats the secret books

    • @jackgoncalvez7045
      @jackgoncalvez7045 5 років тому +11

      XxxJim_ the_ ReaperxxX only if they get a support and we all know Roy X Lilina is the way to go

  • @CyclonSilver
    @CyclonSilver 5 років тому +749

    Tatiana gets proper healer exp in Echoes. So she has a really easy time getting fortify and is thus pretty good.

    • @Tsakan2
      @Tsakan2 5 років тому +137

      Yeah seriously. She's a really solid option. And combined with silque she can be really good. In echoes I found her quite amazing so... must be a vanilla fe2 thing

    • @belbercike2344
      @belbercike2344 5 років тому +35

      Tatiana and Healer!Faye make an amazing duo for the team

    • @boser2562
      @boser2562 5 років тому +51

      I think mekkah is wrong about Tatiana unlike silk she doesn't have to be next to a unit she heals, she can be any were because of pysics whole map range making her a beter healer than silk.
      she unlocks fortify at level 4 at which point all you need to do is put silk next to her to heal her while she heals all your units.
      I admit that its a little bit of a pain geting her to level 4 but anyone with the patiance to play gaiden casualy probably wouldn't mind a couple more trips to the monster shrine.
      Silk is better in combat while tatiana is a better healer.

    • @tootsie_
      @tootsie_ 5 років тому +28

      Also isnt she prepromoted? I don't quite remember, I just remember using Tatiana more as a Saint then a Cleric

    • @MrEntinen
      @MrEntinen 5 років тому +27

      Tatiana is the easiest healer to train in original gaiden. She has a massive leg up on the other 2 because she is premote and can kill stuff with angel spell which is just so much more reliable than nosferatu

  • @ddshocktrooper5604
    @ddshocktrooper5604 5 років тому +309

    Ronan death was so sad. He was born from a miracle of RNG and to be taken away forcefully like that was heartbreaking because we knew we'd never see such an amazing Ronan ever again.

  • @gaiuswoltislovewoltislife6661
    @gaiuswoltislovewoltislife6661 5 років тому +443

    What is this?! Mekkkah actually likes Fire Emblem?!

  • @vanishingumbreon7615
    @vanishingumbreon7615 5 років тому +521

    #2: Danved
    #1: Devdan

  • @thelurker8169
    @thelurker8169 5 років тому +182

    In this video, Mekkah talks about pitfalls that are fun to fall into

  • @joshi9486
    @joshi9486 5 років тому +124

    8:33 Fun fact: you can use the enemy control glitch in the first part of the final map to get a wretched air from one of the two draco zombies. Infinite 1-2 range and stat boosts!
    Edit: Added an explanation on how to do it in the comments

    • @rpgrunaway8321
      @rpgrunaway8321 5 років тому +7

      I spent days trying to set it up. Is it frame-perfect? I know how to do it on Fog of War and other maps, but without Torch and effect tiles I'm at a loss.

    • @joshi9486
      @joshi9486 5 років тому +18

      If you open a door (doesn't matter how) the tile in the upper left corner becomes an effect tile. I used Cormag and Tana to lure one of the mogalls in there, had him attack from 2 range and then used the enemy control glitch. That way you don't have to rely on the frame perfect reset. It's also recommended to have no units in the range of the dracos since they tend to move first and waste their turn.

  • @genericanimepicture3559
    @genericanimepicture3559 5 років тому +289

    I agree with you the post game of fe8 is a little lonely

    • @robertkruger5744
      @robertkruger5744 5 років тому +11

      Coolman 9024 I agree, but if you didn’t boost, and you’re playing on hard, it’s a hell of a challenge. Dull for sure tho lol

  • @iLlamas1
    @iLlamas1 5 років тому +72

    1- Tormod from Path of Radience, common guys the lad is a revolutionary at that age! You have to respect that.
    2- Brom from Path of Radience, such a likeable fellow, it was so fun to watch him talking with Nephenee on how they weren't soldiers and that he didn't like to fight - even thought he was a general -, how he treated her like one of his daughters - it is really good to see a man and woman relationship that don't involve sex for once in a fire emblem game.
    3- Gilliam from Fire Emblem Sacred Stones, FE8 was my first Fire Emblem, I was 10 years old, never played any tactical game before and I didn't know english, Gilliam was basically my most important unit, just put him in front of every hit and finish everyone with the other units, I finished FE8 playing like this.
    4- Donnel from Fire Emblem Awakening, I think it is the same reason to why I like Brom, just a likeable and courageous lad. Also it's really satisfying to watch him become a Hero.
    5- Wil from Fire Emblem Blazing Sword, I really like archers and his dutiful personality just made me like him even more.
    6- Rebecca from Fire Emblem Blazing Sword, yes, I really like archers, and she is just so chill.
    7- Amelia from Fire Emblem Sacred Stones, I have fond memories of her, I think it was the first enemy character that I recruited and it was pure luck - I was about to kill her with Franz - and , even though I was a 10 years old, I made her a paladin.
    8- Roy from Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade, because he is our boy.

    • @samloyd9287
      @samloyd9287 4 роки тому +5

      Donnel isn’t even bad. Once you second seal him to mercenary, he’s broken af

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 4 роки тому +7

      @@samloyd9287 Donnel's pretty near the bottom of Awakening's barrel. He can barely survive on the higher difficulties, and even when he's out of the doldrums, he has barely any reclass options and none of them let him keep his Lance rank. Not to mention the very existence of Second Seals means that pretty much anyone can cap every stat if you're willing to grind them up. He can be good, sure... but it takes so much investment that you could throw into someone else.

    • @samloyd9287
      @samloyd9287 4 роки тому

      Mister Bad Guy I’d argue he takes less investment than most. If you need him to take a hit while he’s still a villager, you’re playing wrong. He should be fed kills until he can reclass to mercenary, where he gets such absurd reclass bonuses that he’s on par or better than most of your units. He generally caps all of it most of his stats without needing to be reclassed a bunch

    • @raisinking3889
      @raisinking3889 4 роки тому

      @@samloyd9287 also aptitude is a beast skill

    • @sammich6257
      @sammich6257 4 роки тому

      Sam Loyd It’s like once he hits a certain level, he just becomes good. Even before he Second Seals, as a villager, he has potential. His growths are probably the highest in Awakening, each level getting over 5 stats. It’s crazy.

  • @SilentDragonite149
    @SilentDragonite149 3 роки тому +59

    I was surprised to see Lute on the list, but I can completely understand why she might not be one of the best units. However, I still choose to use Lute because I love how she snowballs out of control into a dangerous magic throwing machine. I also agree that Mage Knight is much better than Sage in the long run, although I still love the idea of making Lute a Sage and do that for every run, even though I know that Mage Knight is better, mainly because I love the idea of having a unit that has the capability to use every type of magic (Factoring in Enemy Control Glitch, anyways.)

  • @ShinyZETER
    @ShinyZETER 5 років тому +36

    "I'm so sadistic to myself, I torture myself"
    It's called masochism

  • @MythrilZenith
    @MythrilZenith 5 років тому +90

    About Tatiana - In Echoes she starts as a higher level iirc (I think she starts either as a Saint or right at promotion level), and she is the only cleric who gets Fortify in the game. You also get exp for healing in Echoes which makes her MUCH better.

    • @krashboombang1898
      @krashboombang1898 5 років тому +11

      MythrilZenith She starts as a level 1 Saint in both games.

  • @salem1451
    @salem1451 5 років тому +355

    *Forde*
    Ford
    For
    Fo
    F

    • @Mekkkah
      @Mekkkah  5 років тому +136

      Forde is like the opposite: he's like units I use a lot, except bad.

    • @Scalpcollector
      @Scalpcollector 5 років тому +12

      F

    • @lessar2721
      @lessar2721 4 роки тому +4

      is this a joke vid ??

  • @LeDracodon
    @LeDracodon 5 років тому +103

    Ronan is our savior.

  • @gratedshtick
    @gratedshtick 5 років тому +84

    11:21 mekkah likes mangs as a character

  • @cobalt1089
    @cobalt1089 5 років тому +31

    I kinda feel the same with Lilina where I know she's not the best unit to try and train up to use but she's like the unofficial second lord of FE6 lol

    • @kennethguthrie180
      @kennethguthrie180 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, she has horrible stats and is basically made of paper, know matter how much she gets trained. Most characters begin to snowball and become effective units; but assuming that you want to train Lilina to 20/20 (as I always do) then you’re going to be doing A LOT of babying for her (all the way up the ladder). And what is the result of all of that babying? A unit that can be taken out by a level 1 archer with a steel bow.
      Screw her, I much prefer Cecilia to wield the Forblaze.

    • @cobalt1089
      @cobalt1089 2 роки тому +2

      @@kennethguthrie180 cool

    • @kennethguthrie180
      @kennethguthrie180 2 роки тому

      @@cobalt1089 👍🏻

  • @MageKnight404
    @MageKnight404 5 років тому +20

    I see Mekkah's taste in units is as stellar as my own. ' 3'

  • @Ragnamune
    @Ragnamune 5 років тому +85

    The #1 Bad Unit = Green Unit

  • @TheMadRedHatter
    @TheMadRedHatter 5 років тому +82

    I’m hoping and praying that Mangs will use Danved in Radiant Dawn

    • @hibiv8844
      @hibiv8844 5 років тому +7

      Doctor Anime It is very likely he will use him all the way up to 4-E5 and give him every stat booster for the lols

    • @farmingsim9813
      @farmingsim9813 5 років тому +19

      Doctor Anime Knowing Mangs, he'll probably end up losing Danved on the bridge.

    • @domc8089
      @domc8089 5 років тому +2

      @@farmingsim9813 Danved isn't in the Greil mercs...

    • @roarak3406
      @roarak3406 5 років тому +9

      The Crimean Royal Knights join up with the Greil Mercs on the bridge chapter though, pretty sure you could use Danved

    • @farmingsim9813
      @farmingsim9813 5 років тому +4

      Matthew Kimmelman yep, the Crimean army joins Ike's army right before the bridge, although you likely wouldn't use them as they're all outclassed by Ike's army.

  • @neog8029
    @neog8029 5 років тому +492

    Wait, Lute is bad?
    Well, then again, everyone is bad when you only need Seth, sooo...

    • @bobchipman4473
      @bobchipman4473 5 років тому +91

      Neo G yeah FE8 is so utterly unbalanced that everyone pales in comparison of like 3 units

    • @kingbeerz7978
      @kingbeerz7978 5 років тому +48

      I think perhaps rather than 'bad' units this list should be defined as low move units.

    • @xravenx24fe
      @xravenx24fe 5 років тому +57

      Lute is just outclassed by Artur who joins in the same chapter. Pretty similar stats/purpose but Artur gets more Mag on average and a higher staff rank on promotion. Lute really only benefits from getting a mount on promotion, and even that's only 7 Mov in FE8 and not 8. Artur also gets Slayer as a Bishop and just absolutely destroys monster in end game and is the best warper in the game. She's still a 3-4 star unit, just inferior to Artur, that's all.

    • @mikejones1298
      @mikejones1298 5 років тому +100

      @@xravenx24fe Artur does not get more magic on average both have a base of 6 with Lute having a 65% growth and Artur a 50% growth.

    • @alpharabbit2353
      @alpharabbit2353 5 років тому +8

      Joshua... Joshua is god

  • @puffrexpuff293
    @puffrexpuff293 5 років тому +192

    Gonzales original barefoot waifu

    • @ZobmieRules
      @ZobmieRules 5 років тому +9

      omfg

    • @sonicboom126
      @sonicboom126 3 роки тому +2

      Not mine but he is of delicate taste. Unlike females which you'd guess least 1-2 are.

  • @josephcampbell7172
    @josephcampbell7172 5 років тому +73

    I love using sword masters. I know they're bad, but dodging and critting everything is just fun. Even when doubling and critting still isn't a kill.

    • @red5t653
      @red5t653 4 роки тому +13

      Rutger's one of the best units in FE6 since he's the best bosskiller in the entire game due to his high accuracy and crazy crit rate.
      Dude can get 100+ crit given correct set up (Double lightning support+Wo Dao+30 class Crit+current crit from Skl+Lck)

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +2

      @@xuanathan being swordlocked in “1-2 range: the game” doesn’t matter?

    • @xuanathan
      @xuanathan 3 роки тому +3

      @@Edgeperor oh man 2018 me was a completely different person... (No threatening lancers until Darin?? Huh??)

    • @xuanathan
      @xuanathan 3 роки тому +3

      Even worse, why did 15 people agree with me?!?

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +2

      @@xuanathan yeah, that’s understandable

  • @Aether776
    @Aether776 5 років тому +96

    One of the reasons why i like playing Fire Emblem is actualy using these bad units

    • @aleisshiki3649
      @aleisshiki3649 5 років тому +5

      Wellington Santos that explains your profile pic

    • @Aether776
      @Aether776 5 років тому +7

      Indeed, she's my favorite of all the bad units in FE.

    • @-lord1754
      @-lord1754 5 років тому

      Isnt wolt worse?

    • @Aether776
      @Aether776 5 років тому +1

      @@-lord1754 both a really bad

    • @PumpkinFox
      @PumpkinFox 5 років тому

      Well, not many units in 6 are bad because of it's difficulty. I absolutely loved using Dorothy in 6, she was just so reliable!

  • @Kryptnyt
    @Kryptnyt 5 років тому +9

    "Use Briggid as a wall"
    Welcome to the fold of Sniper Choking, Mekkah.

  • @goaway0001
    @goaway0001 5 років тому +174

    Play SoV if you ever get the chance

  • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
    @bigtimetimmyjim6486 5 років тому +13

    Glad Arden is finally getting his due: he is the MVP of my HTC runs.

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +1

      How do you even do a high turn count

  • @UnlockYourWellness
    @UnlockYourWellness 4 роки тому +10

    Gonzalez is the GOAT. Give him a secret book and he’ll take out everyone in his way

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +1

      Did you watch the full video?

  • @lordeliwood7320
    @lordeliwood7320 5 років тому +176

    "Worst characters list"
    *includes Arden and Gonzalez* yeah sure okay insult the gods like that

    • @cooperchamberlain196
      @cooperchamberlain196 5 років тому +19

      It's not the worst units, just units that are considered bad that Mekkah likes regardless.

    • @Logans_Login
      @Logans_Login 5 років тому +16

      Cooper Chamberlain woosh

  • @SurfingKyogreNL
    @SurfingKyogreNL 5 років тому +73

    Tatiana is actually really useful in Echoes

  • @MiniBlackWaltz
    @MiniBlackWaltz 5 років тому +46

    You like using Arden and Tailtiu too?
    ...did not think I'd ever hear that from you

  • @syntharus63
    @syntharus63 5 років тому +23

    Something that I never knew I wanted. I'm excited.

    • @badcactus819
      @badcactus819 5 років тому +3

      Tatiana is a saint in echoes. Much better

  • @Zwei-II
    @Zwei-II 5 років тому +7

    I love the Dawn Brigade formers, Sothe Micaiah Leonardo Especially Nolan and Edward

  • @NoobyNoon
    @NoobyNoon Рік тому +1

    I’ve always loved Arden! Big silly lovable big guy! He was one of the only unit videos I ever made back when I played FEH

  • @lordtullus9942
    @lordtullus9942 5 років тому +165

    Is that arden? Anyway, what you described in the beginning are sometimes called, "Guilty Pleasure" Units.

    • @xuanathan
      @xuanathan 5 років тому +16

      Lord Tullus 9
      I know he's like, the shittest character, but Ewan is one of my favourite characters from fe8.

    • @lordtullus9942
      @lordtullus9942 5 років тому +9

      @@xuanathan I love Ewan too. Hes so cheerful and colorful

    • @geenobe9941
      @geenobe9941 5 років тому +14

      Wallace has like the best supports in fe7. He sucks though.

    • @josephpanno6816
      @josephpanno6816 4 роки тому +3

      A little late but I love using Rolf he's just so fun to use and ever since my first POR playthrough on hard he's been a staple when ever I play the Tellius games.

    • @awkwardcultism
      @awkwardcultism 4 роки тому +8

      Ewan is the best. He tries his heart out defending his big sister despite the fact that he's super weak and going up against literal monsters. He could have just stayed home and no one would have batted an eyelash, but if it means keeping his big sis safe and happy he'll go up against a spider the size of his house with a fire tome he can barely read.
      When I was a kid I thought Ewan was lame and wanted to be one of the big strong guys like Garcia or Seth. Now that I'm an adult, I want to be more like Ewan.

  • @unstablepc5913
    @unstablepc5913 5 років тому +5

    I've actually used Radd quite a lot, even before Mekkkah and Mangs ascended him into meme status. I usually reclass him to cavalier so he gets an insane 30% DEF growth and after a while he grows into a decent dracoknight. But the real reason I like Radd is because he is rad. Radd is a rad mad lad.

  • @mennomaman3399
    @mennomaman3399 5 років тому +9

    I love Edward from Radiant Dawn. I know he's meh at best but goddamn Wrath is so much fun to mess around with. I always end up giving him a wind edge and then let him be a better Leonardo. I'm even using him on hard mode right now. He literally gets 1shot by some of the Part 3/6 tigers, but fuck it. Crit machine Eddy is here to stay being the best wind(edge) mage ever.

  • @aleisshiki3649
    @aleisshiki3649 5 років тому +1

    I watched the Ronan death video right after this one.
    I wasn’t ready for actual feels, Mekkah
    i wasn’t ready

  • @Treasure_hunter_21
    @Treasure_hunter_21 5 років тому +126

    So can we consider this list as oficial W.A.I.F.U. material list?

    • @matthijscalje4143
      @matthijscalje4143 5 років тому +6

      @@Docaccino myrrh is legal I guess

    • @chainsawplayin
      @chainsawplayin 5 років тому +20

      Dragon age =/= human age

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +1

      @@chainsawplayin thank you

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 3 роки тому +1

      @@Docaccino I think only Gonzales might be worth one, but none of them are really overrated or underrated that much by the community

  • @shadedhydra6674
    @shadedhydra6674 5 років тому +3

    Nice list, some of mine are Dorcas and Bartre, Wallace, basically all trainees, Brom and Say’ri. They may not all be bad but I normally find them outclassed.

  • @brandondaniels1941
    @brandondaniels1941 4 роки тому +3

    I remember when playing Radiant Dawn for the first time when I was young on easy I think it was, I couldnt beat the first chapter of part 4, so on one Reset I dumped all of my BEXP into Fiona and Meg since I thought maybe leveling those two up would help me, and they did, so much so I think I actually kept Fiona on my squad since she actually did quite a bit in that chapter. And ever since I've been using Fiona on pretty much all of my hard mode runs, even though I know shes pretty bad

  • @shadowlightnign
    @shadowlightnign 5 років тому +7

    > sees Tailtyu in the list
    Who knew Mekkah had such good taste
    Also, I like using Lilina for the same reason people love Lute. High magic, but near non-existent durability. To her credit, Binding Blade is more PP oriented unlike Sacred Stones and Blazing Sword, which is more EP heavy. Unfortunately, she's kinda competing against Lugh, who joins much much earlier. Also Guiding Rings are scarce, just like all other promotion items in the game. But I still love using her despite all her issues cause player phase glass cannons are always fun to use.

  • @rage3100
    @rage3100 5 років тому +7

    Whenever Gonzalez crits the enemy gets Thanos'ed

  • @TheIxFa
    @TheIxFa 5 років тому +4

    I LOVE Amelia when I can make her a super recruit. I think her sprite is very cute. As a kid it was all about the coolest or cutest characters, same with what pokemon I liked using. Even now, though, I'll use the characters I think are cutest regardless of how good they are.

  • @lodestxr
    @lodestxr 5 років тому +4

    Do more lists like this! A few ideas include: your favorite/least favorite FE games and why, favorite/least favorite maps, most overrated units, least favorite units, and overrated classes.

  • @UrinalPissbert
    @UrinalPissbert 5 років тому

    I really enjoy when you talk about certain units, since it's not like "Rebecca is a great unit, she dodged everything for me!", but more like you really know what you're saying!

  • @theleftfootedsultan
    @theleftfootedsultan 3 роки тому +10

    Myrrh is considered bad? She can one-round anything that isn’t the final boss once you’ve burned less than half of that dragonstone.

    • @IschmarVI
      @IschmarVI Рік тому

      no, she is not bad, she is "bad", which means, she is not very useful in certain playstlyes, specifically speedrunning and LTCs. Although I am not actually sure if that is really true for myrrh as she doesn't need a lot of fights to turn into a solid bosskiller for certain chapters. She is definitely "weird" though when it comes to these kinds of runs due to her abysmal starting level. Also, her MOV isn't great and MOV is like the most important Stat ever for LTCs in a game where you can completely "design" your RNG anyways. At least, she has flier movement though.

  • @DaniDoyle
    @DaniDoyle 4 роки тому +1

    I usually don't like Ests but Pelleas is one of my favorites to use in radiant dawn. Elincia/Tibarn's sections of part 4 is basically made for training underleveled scrubs, betwy Mercy, the infinite laguz, and the fact tibarn doesn't need help to route maps, so it doesn't cost much, and it's an easier way to get fenrir than Lehran

  • @elijah7744s
    @elijah7744s 5 років тому +4

    I use Odin in Fates as a Dark Flier and I usually give him all of the stat boosters.

  • @MrCactuar13
    @MrCactuar13 5 років тому +2

    Gonzales + Treck is the best support
    Bad unit I love to use though, Tate. I arena train her in 11A because it's there and I take the chapter slowly after recruiting her and Klein anyway and I can promote her right after getting the Elysian Whip from her subordinates. Plus I love her HM bonuses, most recent play through I actually got S rank swords in Chapter 24 from spamming so much Wyvern Slayer. Falco Knights are my favorite class and her support with Alan is so cute, I don't care if she's considered bad she's my favorite FE unit period.

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 4 роки тому

      Tate is pretty upper-mid-tier, though, especially on Hard. She isn't great; her bases are trash and Shanna has a pretty hefty lead on her. But she's still a mobile flier in a game where that's a very good thing to be.

  • @nightsider2705
    @nightsider2705 5 років тому +13

    I was a bit scared when i saw the Title and the Thumbnail because Gonzi is my fav. Unit in the series.
    I like using him, I like his design and I like his Character.
    And I like him because on my last FE6 Playthrough (really slow one) leveled Skill 9 times so yeah...
    that was amazing.

  • @Xarjet
    @Xarjet 4 роки тому +1

    I like that in a regular run of Fire Emblem (aka not LTC, HHM 5-star or other highest difficulties), it doesn't really matter all that much which units you use and you can throw rankings out of the window and just have fun.
    I find rankings interesting because they can show me the potential a unit has, but they don't stop me from loving the feeling of holding off an approaching army with a wall of metal that generals tend to be.

  • @Langas_LVDC
    @Langas_LVDC 5 років тому

    As in Echoes healers got exp the exact same way all the other units, that becomes Tatyana a lot more efficient to use, but I know that in Gaiden healers are a pain to train and use.
    Also, I love Danved/Devdan, and Im' pretty sure he is based on a certain comedian/actor from Mexico, because they look VERY similar, even his ending in Radiant Dawn suggests that he becomes a some kind of traveling comedian that makes people laugh.
    And I think they are the same person and he's just playing a character, acting like he's just another person,like a comedy actor.
    Everytime I play FE4 I try to make Arden good, but it never turns out well, he could have a lot of potential.
    Really fun content Mekkkah, keep it up!

  • @Zemuzu22
    @Zemuzu22 5 років тому +3

    I'm a huge advocate for Wil and Rebecca. They were the stars of my first FE7 playthrough and they've been close to my heart ever since, especially Wil. I was such a noob back then that I had Rebecca solo the Dragon since she was the only one fast and strong enough (capped STR and SPD). That A support she had with Wil really helped.
    I also really love Patty (as you can see from my avi). Last playthrough I had I paired Noish with Briggid, and the result was incredible: i.imgur.com/vBBbLPy.png
    She's very useful for thief utility, but I enjoy raising her up and seeing her decimate everything she can reach in the lategame.

  • @xenocheeze6633
    @xenocheeze6633 5 років тому +3

    Aka, Mekkah's "I can have fun too" video. Great video though!

  • @gregster1016
    @gregster1016 5 років тому +30

    I wouldn't really say Tatiana is bad per say, because Fortify is pretty useful late in the game, as well as Thabes. I do enjoy using Tailtu, Myrhh, and Gonzales tho. My personal favorite "bad units" are Patty, Subaki, Olwen, and Python (in no particular order)

    • @MythrilZenith
      @MythrilZenith 5 років тому +10

      Gregster 101 in Echoes she’s good, but in Gaiden she struggles a lot, since she joins so late, healers get no exp, and there isn’t a difficult postgame you really need fortify for. Rings are broken OP in gaiden too so that reduces the need for healing.

    • @krashboombang1898
      @krashboombang1898 5 років тому +17

      Python has killer bow access, which instantly makes him a good unit.

    • @Zwei-II
      @Zwei-II 5 років тому

      Subaki is bad? Because every single time i train him he comes out with high hp skill def and res seems pretty use ful to me

    • @alejandrofernandez6004
      @alejandrofernandez6004 5 років тому +1

      Zwei Mine always needs 6 levels to level str once

    • @gregster1016
      @gregster1016 5 років тому +1

      Zwei Subaki has major competition

  • @thecker99
    @thecker99 5 років тому +2

    Tailtiu has some fun things to play with.
    I accept that as a fanboy I have an extremely biased view but thank you, so many people just throw her to the mother farm and not recognize how fun she is

  • @litteralpleb9687
    @litteralpleb9687 5 років тому +1

    My favorite ”Bad” unit to ise is probably Rolf from the Tellius games. He just kept getting really good stat levelups and ended up capping his speed in the final chapters of PoR

  • @user-unos111
    @user-unos111 5 років тому +1

    Gonzalaes efectiveness depends a lot in which route you get him. If he joins your army with lvl 5 he has a lot of room to grow. Also, his bad skill is compensated by his other atributes. In my playthrough he managed to kill 7 enemies (1 of them a promoted) in a row with an iron axe in a specilly epic moment.
    By they way, anyone else think there should a firearm user class in a future game?

  • @demonicgamerazazel9866
    @demonicgamerazazel9866 5 років тому +5

    My favorite bad unit is Jamke; being able to one-round nearly every enemy is one hell of a drug, and Midir was very soft-spoken, didn't deal as much damage, and overall felt less satisfying.
    Of course, being a footlocked Archer in Genealogy is also one hell of a drug; the kind that gives you horrific hallucinations. But he's still someone I love to use.

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 5 років тому +1

      Demonic Gamer Azazel How about Briggid and Faval, lol. Briggid is probably one of the few characters that can survive a Mjonlir, and Faval can one round Ishtar in all of her appearances.

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 років тому +4

      Just give Midir the killer bow and he will be about as good in combat and mounted

    • @salem1451
      @salem1451 5 років тому

      Demonic Gamer Azazel Jamke isn't even bad though.

    • @kentknightofcaelin4537
      @kentknightofcaelin4537 5 років тому +3

      @@salem1451 not really bad but infantry is pretty trash in that game

    • @azelofvelthomer
      @azelofvelthomer 3 роки тому

      Midayle is overrated imo

  • @Hambs23
    @Hambs23 5 років тому

    Yeah, I discovered that the hit calculation happened before the crit in Conquest, where I had a 100% crit Charlotte with 40~50% hit rate. The crit animation would only start if it would hit, otherwise it would just do a regular attack animation and miss. idk how the other FEs work, but I would guess it's the same for most, if not all of them.

  • @dryzalizer
    @dryzalizer 5 років тому

    Nice list, I often use these units as well because of fun niches they fill (except Danved, he's quirky but pretty useless). I'll add in that Lilina on normal mode of FE6 is pretty easy to train up quickly, has a quick Roy support, and can nuke hordes of wyverns while standing on a mountain with Gonzo support from a peak near her in Chapter 21, so she's my pick and maybe shouldn't even be called bad.

  • @alexnuzlocker12
    @alexnuzlocker12 5 років тому +1

    I really like using Nyx in Fates. Even though I normally hate using units with accuracy issues, I also like having a fast mage on the team, and Nyx is one of the few early options you have.

  • @weepingdalek2568
    @weepingdalek2568 5 років тому +2

    I like using Lilina when I play FE6 and Delthea when I play Echoes
    I also do like using Myrmidons, and a lot of the FE4 foot units

  • @expio4257
    @expio4257 4 роки тому +5

    I really like using Lute and Lilina, and other similar units. Sure, they need babying you need to feed them kills at first, but they quickly snowball into an atomic bomb that can one-shot nearly everything. It's super fun.

  • @invenblocker
    @invenblocker 4 роки тому

    I like using Odin Dark because as Owain he was one of my favorite Awakening characters. But it's really a rock and a hard place with him. His Mag isn't really all that good, so keeping him as a dark mage is gonna make him fall behind hard (especially since Nyx joins only 1 chapter later on Conquest). He is fairly good as a Samurai, but then you have to first use a heart seal to reclass him and then he doesn't really start to bare fangs before his swords go to rank D since his personal skill is crit based and bronze weapons can't crit for stupid reasons, and at that point it's just too much investment to be practical since you have to babysit him to keep him alive until that point (heck, for all it's worth, Mozu is easier to train since you can make her an archer and the map she joins on is a really good spot to train her as that class and babysitting her gives a way larger payoff than babysitting Odin does).
    But even though he's kinda bad, I like using him anyways.

  • @DrGreen-ob6eb
    @DrGreen-ob6eb 5 років тому +1

    I've had fun with Dolph in FE11.
    In my FE11 H2 Run, Est was the key to beating Medeus because he's nearly as strong as H5 Medeus (29 Str/Spd in H2 vs 30 Str/Spd in H5)
    I used Abel and Roshea together in my most recent FE12 run.
    I want to use Vyland some time.
    Man Archanea has so many bad but fun units.

  • @doc6161
    @doc6161 4 роки тому

    A little late to the party but i'd like to mention Lilina has carried multiple runs of binding blade for me. She always becomes a dodge tanking powerhouse after a little bit of archer farming on the chapter she joins. So satisfying to use.

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 5 років тому

    Ronan also got a movement level up in his first level when I did chapter 2 Thracia the very first time. I guess I’ll have to use him now for Mekkah.

  • @sandroja8998
    @sandroja8998 5 років тому +1

    I love to use Rolf in Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. Ever since my first PoR run I grew really fond of him. One time for example he had more defense than Gatrie in PoR and in Radiant Dawn I tend to sometimes beat up the Black Knight with him, which I think is just damn hillarious. 😂😂

    • @eldizo_
      @eldizo_ 5 років тому

      I tried out Rolf once, killing Dhegnisea with him was hilarious.

  • @SnowfurOfAwesomeness
    @SnowfurOfAwesomeness 5 років тому

    I agree with you on the post games, with fe13 and fe8 whenever I reopen the save file I feel like I’m not supposed to be there

  • @hecatia666
    @hecatia666 5 років тому +8

    I always use Lute on SS as a Sage, I may be stubburn, but I love her. It also applies to Ilyana and I would like to watch a video about why is she not that good

    • @icecoldnut5152
      @icecoldnut5152 4 роки тому

      1% Critical Hit Illyana is ok, there’s just so many mages that have more useful skills, she can’t double as consistently as say Soren when she joins, and he has higher magic as well, the only starts with higher lightning weapon level for bolting later but you could just use Callil and not waste exp on her, tormod also has fire magic which tends to be better against beast laguz which are more prominent, he also has celerity which gives him more of a niche, that being said you can use whoever you want especially in path of radiance and Illyana really isn’t bad at all, in fact you could use all mages if you really wanted, I can’t judge because I always use Mia, put gamble on her and forge a high hit high crit sword for her because it’s fun

    • @soulflaya2271
      @soulflaya2271 4 роки тому

      theAnarch I put gamble on Rolf in path of radiance and gave him a killer bow towards the end of the game. His crit was 54, so when I gambled it’d be over 100, so I was like, “sick! Infinite Crits!” So I gambled against an enemy....and missed. Whuuuut? I guess percentages don’t mean much haha

    • @icecoldnut5152
      @icecoldnut5152 4 роки тому

      John Meinhardt the game calculates if you hit or miss the shot first, so if Rolf has a 50% hit rate and 100% crit rate it’s a 100% chance to crit IF you hit, so it’s really effectively 50% chance to land a crit

    • @soulflaya2271
      @soulflaya2271 4 роки тому

      theAnarch lame haha

  • @JRodMason1
    @JRodMason1 5 років тому +4

    I always use barth no matter what, I'll only stop using him if he naturally caps res

  • @Ethan-nl2wg
    @Ethan-nl2wg 5 років тому +1

    Even though I don’t think he’s as bad as people say he is I love using Boey in echoes he always turns amazing whenever I use not to mention I love his character so that’s probably my favorite “bad unit”
    And Nino of course

  • @slanax97
    @slanax97 5 років тому

    On my so far unfinished first Thracia run Dashin got two Mov levels. I'm fairly certain that now makes him the most mobile indoor unit in the game, and he's not too terrible at capturing people (especially big fat armors indoors). So yeah, Imma keep using him now.

  • @Devionkurasao
    @Devionkurasao 5 років тому

    the only ones that immediately come to mind are rinkah and rhys, i just like them so much that i overlook their flaws in comparison to other units and will use them regardless

  • @user-pp3tn2lt3q
    @user-pp3tn2lt3q 5 років тому +1

    I recognize that Lance! All of Devdan’s Characteristics are good!

  • @acsu96
    @acsu96 5 років тому +3

    Ilyana, forever and always. A shiny blue Rexbolt on dragons is very satisfying for me lol.

    • @goldencyclone4984
      @goldencyclone4984 5 років тому

      Yes! She was so good for me on my PoR playthrough. I didn't know about the Thunder nerf going into RD initially, and I was so sad that she was seriously dragging behind until I found out about it. Still BS.

  • @tacosir
    @tacosir 3 роки тому

    I really love your point of view in this video, many scrubs see you as this cold blooded elitist, but this video shows that you, like the rest of us enjoy bad units.

  • @BumroyV2
    @BumroyV2 5 років тому +1

    My biggest guilty pleasure unit is Noish. He's not terrible, but he's pretty unspectacular. But he's my favorite father for Larcei and Ulster and he's actually a surprisingly good dad for Fee and Ced. On top of that, with either the Brave Sword or the Pursuit Band, he goes from being a stocky, but ineffectual unit to a pretty good unit.

  • @earlybird3723
    @earlybird3723 4 роки тому

    As somebody who literally only does bad character runs, this list is decent. Your Arden gen 1 solo story made my head hurt. That's dedication bro.
    Some of my masochistic favourites (one per game played) to get to the end game are: Lewyn< Coirpre in fe4 (1 of 3 children that can inherit the best magic in the game, but he shows up Hella late, underleveled and unable to use said magic before promotion), any axe fighter in fe6 (Lot, Geese or Gonzalez are the best of the bunch, good luck getting Bartre, Ward or Garret enough skill to hit literally anything), not really any bad characters in fe7 casual, Super recruit Ewan in sacred stones, that Silver tongued philanderer Bastian in Path of Radiance (just used all my resources capping him for a Radiant Dawn transfer...why am I like this?), Fiona in Radiant Dawn ( Magic wielding paladin is certainly novel enough, and Meg is too masochistic even for me). Fates with reclassing means there are no real duds, and awakening masochism basically comes down to not using Frederick on Maniac.

  • @tinchosabala
    @tinchosabala 5 років тому

    Honestly, my Tatiana on Gaiden just died in one of the Dragon Assaults on Alm. And Silque died a bit later, I think. So I had to go through the final chapter just with Jenny. Or Genny, whatever. Man, that last chapter was really good. I remember my Baron Gray doubled the stupid eyeballs (I cycled through the Merc line, back to villager and to Baron and he had 22 speed) , Celica had JUST learned Ragnarok and was struggling to hit Duma, along with Zeke and Gradivius, it was so freaking good.

  • @polecats6922
    @polecats6922 5 років тому

    I love using nieme her bases are as close to garbage as it can be, but with a few levels and the early promotion she is a lot of fun to use

  • @SJtheMFZB
    @SJtheMFZB 6 місяців тому +1

    Magic-based Cecille in FE12. She's not very optimal for LTC, but she's useful backup to Marisha and Yumina, since she joins earlier and has a better Speed and Magic growth than Linde. Usually, all you have to do is tech to Cavalier on occasion to get her HP and Def to move, and you can lady Sage trio all through endgame.

  • @XLuxtra
    @XLuxtra 5 років тому

    Well my Tatianna grew so amazing, that she could heal the whole field on any maps and packed quite the punch

  • @OwinBlazer
    @OwinBlazer 5 років тому

    Aww, I wanted to see a highlight reel for Ronan!

  • @theguardlorenzo5898
    @theguardlorenzo5898 5 років тому +5

    "i like this unit because it grows nice" wait, what

  • @Brazen992
    @Brazen992 5 років тому +63

    Aka, meme units

  • @underhillbiggies5536
    @underhillbiggies5536 5 років тому

    On Sacred stones, the only two bad units that I enjoy using and having on my team are Ross and L'arachel.
    Ross: At first when I start playing Sacred stones, I thought he was trash and had no place on my team, but then when I learn more about him and class, he got potential in my eyes. Not only that, but his personally remains me one of the anime characters with great determination and will power which I like to see in characters. Still not good and needs investment, but he's worth it and I feel very satisfied using him as my main axe user.
    L'arachel: Great supports, good personally, funny, and should had been the main character instead of Eirika even though I like her. Pain to train up, but worth it and like to make her busted because it feels so good to use her.

  • @darkknolls
    @darkknolls 4 роки тому

    The characters I use that are typically considered bad are Knoll, Oswin, Donnel, Ewan, Azama, Wil, Kellam, and Xane

  • @michaelyuen1250
    @michaelyuen1250 5 років тому

    Tatianna in Gaiden/Echoes is the only character with Fortify, which I think makes her a really good unit even though she joins really late. I like Lute a lot as well and I think she is a good unit as well because Mage Knight exist. Mage Knight is so good and even makes L'Arachel easily usable despite her late join time.
    Elincia in PoR is one of my favorite characters and units even though her base stats are low and late join time but I always field her. In RD, her strength falls off so she is basically useless but I always bring her to the tower just because I really like her and she is a good enough staff user.~

  • @lordtullus9942
    @lordtullus9942 5 років тому

    Units I like to use include boey, edward, sigrun, Hicks, Radd, fe 15 est, Marisa, Garret, Ricken, Tiki, Kagero, and Macellan, just to name a few.

  • @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799
    @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799 4 роки тому +1

    for me, I like using Leonardo in FE10, even though his speed is garbage I can usually rig him enough to make him worth using.
    Edward is my other, I know he's considered a good unit stuck in shitty chapters but I go out of my way to feed him the most EXP, and he's gotten MVP on 2/3 of my playthroughs (Haar is the other of course).

  • @lazykatie42069
    @lazykatie42069 3 роки тому

    I also love using Arden and Tailtiu, as well as Marisa and Amelia in FE8, Nino in FE7, and Sophia in FE6.

  • @tacosir
    @tacosir 3 роки тому

    Ah, still remember how much Danved carried me in the fe10 chapters that he was in.

  • @ganonpork301
    @ganonpork301 2 роки тому +1

    gonzales is good even with his low skill i still remember in chapter 13 at level 8 he just murdered one of the two reinforcements alone with a halberd and like 39 hit

  • @Luninareph
    @Luninareph Рік тому

    YEEEEAAAAH, Ronan FTW

  • @cairocopper3238
    @cairocopper3238 5 років тому +2

    I use Setsuna in Birthright. I find her antics adorable and her design cute..... She's weird and I love it. Just makes me smile.
    I'm not sure she's actually bad, just far outclassed, but hey

  • @piratekrook1183
    @piratekrook1183 5 років тому +1

    I use to always upgrade my Mathew into an assassin and it felt good

  • @nuclearkingares5679
    @nuclearkingares5679 5 років тому +11

    Mekkah why are you on the list?

  • @exquisiteaquariummusic1871
    @exquisiteaquariummusic1871 4 роки тому +9

    I love using bad units, there's nothing more satisfying to me than having Gwendolyn smash through a map with the awesome general animations