Love the editing on this video. It could have gotten real confusing with the different ball and grit combos, but you made the info clear throughout. Great concept and execution overall!
I kept my Subzero at 2000, and my Primal Rage I had to bring down to 3000 for the house I bowl in. Primal Rage has a beautiful shape! I'm really starting to like that ball a lot!
Love it! I left the 2K on it and polished it to both give me more length and a bit more angularity into the pocket. The result is such a good ball! The ability to change the surface on the ball makes it so damn versatile.
Great video. You pretty much show you could use any one of those balls for that condition and it will work with the right surface. I want a Primal Rage real bad.
Thank you so much! Yes, Jeff did a fantastic job with showcasing the different pieces with surface. It’s incredible to see that Primal Rage Evolution have the most drastic change in motion overall. Ball is MONEY.
Love this video. Maintenance your balls! Get em spun up at the pro shop every month or two, and lightly hand surface your stuff before league! So many people let their equipment lane shine, and wonder why their ball dies.
@hoth3875 especially with Motiv and how quickly things can lane shine, if you're dependent on consistency it's a must-do before practice starts every time for me
@yasukebowling and as for usage of each ball.... I mean thats 6 surfaces per each ball so that can get lengthy explaining... overall the more oil volume and or length, the stronger your grit. As you can see, each grit necessitates about a 3 board difference in angles. So it becomes a question of what entry path are you wanting? This is why I have multiples of each of these balls aside from the Evolution. This way I can keep the same shape and pocket path, with a difference in length & angularity that inherently is predictable based on prior use. Look at what pattern you're playing on and choose accordingly.
Great video. I just wanted to identify if there were any constants besides the same surfaces. Since the layouts are the same, it's easier to identify when and where. Thanks for the feedback, you got my sub
@yasukebowling As for constants, I think I keep everyone informed if I'm adding more tilt with my hand or changing lines. I always stay in the same zone from the prior surface to show how much difference it's providing. The Forge and Raptor were both set at 2K polish and the Evolution was Factory Finish (5500 polish). What I wanted to show was every ball reacts different to surfacing and the amount of surface you're putting on it. I encourage everyone to find a ball and try it out, especially a ball that is pesky and not working right. 99 times out of a hundred it comes down to needing a different surface to get a ball to work.
@Toine822 if you're adding compound and creating a polished finish, a strong grit like the one you're mentioning is fine, but I'd heavy suggest going 500-2K because 360 on reactive resin can be a lot. It always will come down to the conditions you're in and how long you want to be able to theoretically use that ball during some form of transition. The more extreme you go, the less likely it'll have a long usage. But again it is dependent on the conditions. I usually go to 500 at the lowest when surfacing my resin balls. MCP is a TOTALLY different scenario haha.
What grit is it when you have it 2000 + polish? Is it somewhere between 5000 to 5500? Were Subzero and Rush Gold have same surface grit at 2000+polish?
It's definitely higher for example the polish with grit that Motiv makes sets your ball at 5000 if I remember correctly. I like very strong grits on polished balls to even out the arc and gain more entry angle.
Wow,great video. I bought a Max Thrill Pearl, and had to hit it with a 2000 pad to get it to read. It was skidding too much. I’ve had some good games with it afterwards. I’m really thinking about getting the Rush, but after seeing the Red Primal, it really takes to adjustment. Do you hit two or four sides when you use the pad?
@butchcoolidge3261 all areas of the ball should be evenly scuffed. It's vital for numerous reasons to evenly scrub across all areas of your ball. I heavy suggest a lighter pad like 4000 to take the Thrill down. I have too much friction at my house's THS and thus I can't smooth that ball out too much or it'll start rolling past the pocket
@@HebrewHammerBowling I initially hit it with 4000, but it still needed more. I also have the leverage drilling on it, so it rolls early and needs some speed. Thanks
Thanks for the video. I always enjoy videos about surface changes. I always hit my balls with surface. A very well done video.
Glad you enjoyed it! Changing up surfaces is key for the right ball reaction! 🙏
Super appreciate the kind words! Lots more to come!
Such a good vid; thanks for sharing, Jeff! Resurfacing my Pure Envy again tonight. 👏🏻
@@monicaj7518 super welcome 🙏
Love the editing on this video. It could have gotten real confusing with the different ball and grit combos, but you made the info clear throughout. Great concept and execution overall!
Thank you so much! We appreciate your feedback on the video! ⭐️⭐️
@@ToolHead44 glad to hear you enjoyed!
I kept my Subzero at 2000, and my Primal Rage I had to bring down to 3000 for the house I bowl in. Primal Rage has a beautiful shape! I'm really starting to like that ball a lot!
Love it! I left the 2K on it and polished it to both give me more length and a bit more angularity into the pocket. The result is such a good ball! The ability to change the surface on the ball makes it so damn versatile.
Thanks
Is a good video ❤
The motive cover is very strong
Thank you so much!
Great video. You pretty much show you could use any one of those balls for that condition and it will work with the right surface. I want a Primal Rage real bad.
Thank you so much! Yes, Jeff did a fantastic job with showcasing the different pieces with surface. It’s incredible to see that Primal Rage Evolution have the most drastic change in motion overall. Ball is MONEY.
Surface is king 🤴 haha thanks for watching!
Love it. Great video #purplefire
Thank you!!!
Super glad to hear you dug the vid!
Surfaced my Raptor rush and evoke and got a victory in the clash with my partner 🙌 #purplefire
Amazing! Great bowling!
So excited for this one fam!
Let’s go!!!
What's with all the spell casting after releasing the ball?
It's just my follow through and posting at the line..been doing it since I first started.
Love this video. Maintenance your balls! Get em spun up at the pro shop every month or two, and lightly hand surface your stuff before league! So many people let their equipment lane shine, and wonder why their ball dies.
Thank you so much! Definitely agree on the surfaces and the changes they can make to your equipment!
@hoth3875 especially with Motiv and how quickly things can lane shine, if you're dependent on consistency it's a must-do before practice starts every time for me
What are the layouts and when would you use each ball? I think that information is a key factor to deciding a surface.
@@yasukebowling each ball is the same: 40 X 5.5 X 20 as recommended by our touring Ball Rep!
@yasukebowling and as for usage of each ball.... I mean thats 6 surfaces per each ball so that can get lengthy explaining... overall the more oil volume and or length, the stronger your grit. As you can see, each grit necessitates about a 3 board difference in angles. So it becomes a question of what entry path are you wanting? This is why I have multiples of each of these balls aside from the Evolution. This way I can keep the same shape and pocket path, with a difference in length & angularity that inherently is predictable based on prior use. Look at what pattern you're playing on and choose accordingly.
Great video. I just wanted to identify if there were any constants besides the same surfaces. Since the layouts are the same, it's easier to identify when and where. Thanks for the feedback, you got my sub
@yasukebowling As for constants, I think I keep everyone informed if I'm adding more tilt with my hand or changing lines. I always stay in the same zone from the prior surface to show how much difference it's providing. The Forge and Raptor were both set at 2K polish and the Evolution was Factory Finish (5500 polish). What I wanted to show was every ball reacts different to surfacing and the amount of surface you're putting on it. I encourage everyone to find a ball and try it out, especially a ball that is pesky and not working right. 99 times out of a hundred it comes down to needing a different surface to get a ball to work.
@@yasukebowling and glad you subbed! I'm about to drop a ton more content so glad to hear.
What do you think about the Subzero 360 / 2000 grit plus compound ?
@Toine822 if you're adding compound and creating a polished finish, a strong grit like the one you're mentioning is fine, but I'd heavy suggest going 500-2K because 360 on reactive resin can be a lot. It always will come down to the conditions you're in and how long you want to be able to theoretically use that ball during some form of transition. The more extreme you go, the less likely it'll have a long usage. But again it is dependent on the conditions. I usually go to 500 at the lowest when surfacing my resin balls. MCP is a TOTALLY different scenario haha.
What grit is it when you have it 2000 + polish? Is it somewhere between 5000 to 5500? Were Subzero and Rush Gold have same surface grit at 2000+polish?
@Stylebender1318 the Evolution was OOB: 5500 polished.. the Subzero and Raptor both were at 2K polished to start.
It's definitely higher for example the polish with grit that Motiv makes sets your ball at 5000 if I remember correctly. I like very strong grits on polished balls to even out the arc and gain more entry angle.
Wow,great video. I bought a Max Thrill Pearl, and had to hit it with a 2000 pad to get it to read. It was skidding too much. I’ve had some good games with it afterwards. I’m really thinking about getting the Rush, but after seeing the Red Primal, it really takes to adjustment. Do you hit two or four sides when you use the pad?
@butchcoolidge3261 all areas of the ball should be evenly scuffed. It's vital for numerous reasons to evenly scrub across all areas of your ball. I heavy suggest a lighter pad like 4000 to take the Thrill down. I have too much friction at my house's THS and thus I can't smooth that ball out too much or it'll start rolling past the pocket
@@HebrewHammerBowling I initially hit it with 4000, but it still needed more. I also have the leverage drilling on it, so it rolls early and needs some speed. Thanks