Thanks! It was me. Funny, today i was playing with my friends from squadron. And friend ask me on discord in pm what is the name of my squadron, then he send me this video. I'm in shock, i didint know i got DEFYN in a battle i'm even more surprised i was his wingman xD im never paying attention who is in my battle. Thanks for kind words DEFYN and SMIGOL. EDTIT: OH! AND BTW YOU STOLE MY FRAG ON A6M5! xD
Doing God's work, dishing out L's to airfield campers. Also thanks for "sunken cost fallacy", I've learnt a handful of logical fallacies but that specific one is more psychological and I'm guilty of it, nice to know there's a noun out there to refer to it.
Just in time. I think we're finally about to make SAPI an actual SAPI: I've sent 3 or 4 reports on it already, and as of now (2.18 DEV) it finally got the AP damage model (proper penetration and kinetic damage). Now I'm forcing Gaijin to finish tuning it by getting rid of fuse latency and make it harder to trigger. (irl API had no fuse and ignited upon impact with armour/modules) Wish me luck with that. P.S. - I'm really a fan of F Mk.IX exactly for it meeting stronger opposition than Mk.I-V (people around 3.0-4.0 are easier targets than 4.3-5.3), while not having actually outstanding performance (like LF's absolute climb or Griffon's climb/speed/turn combo). And it's more engaging to fly than 109s (although not as ball-twisting as 190). And LF/Griffons also face the 288 spam, which is cringe to be frank.
Not sure if this is a good thing gameplay wise. As inaccurate as it was, this round acting like weak HEI was probably better, than fancy weak AP that it should be.
@@CRL_One Trust me, it will be more useful as an AP. As of now, most of its damage as "weaker HE" is only to skin and occasionally radiators, even in direct hits. Check it yourself - a direct hit on the engine won't even colour it orange. Meanwhile on the DEV it already has better kinetic damage than (for example) ShVAK's APIs: Hispano's SAPI weighs 130-134g and its muzzle velocity is above average at 840 m/s. What does it mean? Guaranteed pilot snipes and engine kills, not to mention the incendiary effect provided by 12g of S.R.379 inside it. The only thing at which it loses to ShVAK API is penetration (26mm against 28) due to basically being an HE shell with empty space inside.
@@MDzmitry My concern is primarily with AP doing jack shit (pardon my french) unless it hits something vital. And "something vital" is usually less than 50% of plane's projection.
@@CRL_One On the other hand current SAPI does jack shit *even* if it hits anything vital (once again, check it in protection analysis). And no, as a doomed soul with 2+k battles in shvak-having soviet fighters alone I guarantee - hitting vital components is easy because most of them are centered around the frontal half of a fighter. But APs (or SAPIs) will also have better chances to cut wing spars, tail controls and kill the pilot from straight six. Current SAPIs are completely useless from straight six and are as useful as plain APs from bigger angles (skin damage can be achieved as effectively with 7,7mm bursts)
The videos where team-mates are actually using their brains are my favourite, it shows you how much of a difference it can make if more people know what they're doing.
The F mk IX is one of my favourite irl planes. In war thunder I find it a very difficult plane to use because 4.3 is such a competitive BR bracket, and I feel like I am often the only plane on my team at altitude facing 3-4 109Gs, J2ms etc and I just get mobbed and 3rd partied.
14:47 It happend to me yesterday, i was phaving fun with my mates until we were in a match with the last guy camping his airfield. He said ''you guys have the energy advantage, so i use the airfield advantage'' lmao i check his profile and its not even a new player but a veteran one. He won the match just because of tickets, we stopped playing right after that.
Man, i picked up this plane when the coupon was re released and the price hit like 20$. Very fun plane to run around with. I bring it with my 4.7 Brit lineup in GRB, and play an air superiority role.
The people who faceplant the ground to avoid giving you the kill are somewhat pathetic Imagine being so bad at the game that you consider that as a sort of win
they die anyway and now Gaijin keeters towards noobs and gives them RP and SL for dying so it's actually beneficial to die to a player than crash but those people are too... narcisstic? to understand that
@@GewelReal yes they are, even those who apparently are superior to me but know my schizoposting often crash when they find me in advantage. Last guy literally ruined his ace prospect game because "he didn't want to die to the og KamikazeRico", I was a J5n1 and he was a P51D30. Lame ahh.
Managed to get this in the event. Kept it. Somehow I just never have good games in it. I just don't have that much fun in the spits and just keep thinking "I could be flying a zero right now instead".
Bro i actually have this thing. I don't even remember which tournament i got it, and when i got the coupon i was like "yeah i have a premium plane to grind british tree now" and consumed it... If i knew it would cost 500$ now, i wouldn't have done that.
I just get this plane coupon in a dragon loot box :D now its 70$ but maybe in future will cost more, my most luckiest day in war thunder after 3 years playing
I hardly ever play spitfires anymore. You will hardly find anyone willing to fight you unless they have a large numbers advantage, they usually just run away until you are out numbered (because you team refused to climb and/or took head-ons and are now all dead) and they just try and drag you low and swarm you. It's not very fun to play them right now, because even the German teams don't know how to energy fight and that spitfires energy retention isn't very good making it not that hard to fight a spitfire if they don't have a large energy advantage, instead everyone just runs from zeros and spitfires cause they can't out-turn them.
Whenever I tried to energy fight a spitfire they just never stalled and pulled straight up in ways that a 109/190 can only do if you put a rocket engine under the nose. So yeah, fuck fighting them fairly.
@@reinbeers5322 pitching straight up isn't energy fighting, use veritcle scissors and spirals to drain their energy while staying out of their guns. while slow they don't turn well so you can loop over them in a plane with better retention like a 109, while they don't have the authority to pull into you.
@@fulgrimventris8506 it's not fun if it's easy, a challenge can get your heart racing and your hands shaking. If you know you'll get a tough fight why run away, it's such a waste.
@@TinyBearTim yeah they can turn but with literally no energy because the plane performs horribly at low alt so if anyone notices your low energy state you'd be screwed
Your spot on ..7 years ago when I first flew the spit it was great then one day it was horrible after an update..forget which one but I hate flying it out.
I own it, got 3 for me and my friends from this battle royale event when you just kept going head ons. I reallly regret keeping it, back then it was worth about 20gjn…
Good video and kills. It also features a lot of what WT players seem to be like these days. I don't think players have ever been so passive, so short-sighted and just either not knowing or not caring how to play and win the match. It's a toss up if they even bother to climb, and all they do if they aren't behind you with a massive energy advantage is try to run/dive away and/or airfield camp. Inevitably when they get caught out somewhere they have no skills to fall back on and die easily.
DEFYN the seafire mk17 carried me to jets because i was too bad to cope with the repair costs of the other planes so long ago. so i think you should try it, yeah the 7.7's are kinda steaming garbage compared to the griffons w .50 cals or 4 hispano's but still its a griffon and people do just turn with you when they shouldnt. please consider. you could also just meme the ground pound 5.7 griffon xvIIIe lmao. i will also be going against your advice in the YAK VK video and i WILL be crewing the mk24 and flying it.
Hello again, i've improved considerably but i still have a question, what am i supposed to do with my q and e keys? I mean in theory i know what they do, in practice i just destabilize my plane most times. Any tips?
I don't really use them much - mostly only useful when near stalling / actually stalling as that's when they'll have the most (useful) effect. As Daboops says you can use them in combination with your A & D keys to roll faster.
Spitfire is my favourite plane. I generally play the spitfire a fair bit more spicy compared to you. I actually don’t mind if fighters are above me because I lure them into reversals.
god damn, man. i get so jealous watching your vids. I mean, I don't play nearly quite as much, but I wish I was this good. Would make grinding so much faster.
Oh man I really wish I hadn't heard the current price of this thing because I have one and I'd really like to have 400-500 gaijin coin over this in the current state of the game. Don't get me wrong, this is a really lovely plane and I enjoy flying it, but I could have so many premium vehicles or lots of premium time instead...
Have you ever considered doing classes in a private match? I reckon you would get many people signing up, I learn loads watching how you move during a fight. Could be DEFYN's Top Gun😂
I've tried so hard to like the spitfires as they're beautiful and iconic. I'm up to mkIX and they've all been horrible. Had a sim game yesterday and took the spitfire for the first time in a couple of months. I couldn't even kill an A.I. fw190😢. Went back to the typhoon and started wrecking again. The spitfire had horrible forward vision, difficult to aim, elliptical wings have horrible stall characteristics that stall from the control surfaces first and it feels so slow and underpowered. Then a small child fires a .22 air rifle at you and your engine is finished.
I get killed A LOT! But I really can’t understand those people who camp around the airfield! As frustrating as it is to always get shot down, it’s from the fighting that you get all the enjoyment! …and occasionally I get some good kills!
Just like the Vampire/A28, people are horrified to even get near you lol... Edit: The epidemic of window lickers in WT has grown to an alarming rate these past few weeks...
And Welcome back today we are flying out...
I read this out with his voice
@@AK-nf2jl that’s the point
The J7E?? Soon??
Iconic
11:50 its always a joy seeing a teammate actually knowing what he's doing
Smigol vs Defyn when?
Always a proud parent moment.
to the battle 😄
Thanks! It was me. Funny, today i was playing with my friends from squadron. And friend ask me on discord in pm what is the name of my squadron, then he send me this video. I'm in shock, i didint know i got DEFYN in a battle i'm even more surprised i was his wingman xD im never paying attention who is in my battle. Thanks for kind words DEFYN and SMIGOL.
EDTIT:
OH! AND BTW YOU STOLE MY FRAG ON A6M5! xD
@@karczycho2814 polak i od razu wiadomo czemu umie grać XD
The Spitfire F Mk IXc tha
Honestly quite incredible
If you know you know…
Doing God's work, dishing out L's to airfield campers.
Also thanks for "sunken cost fallacy", I've learnt a handful of logical fallacies but that specific one is more psychological and I'm guilty of it, nice to know there's a noun out there to refer to it.
Good, my favorite Spitfire is the 109G6
My favourite spitfire is the P-51D-10
Mine favorite spitfire is XP 55
My favorite spitfire is F.222.2
My favorite spitfire is the Hawker Siddeley/BAE Harrier GR5/7
my favorite plane that's designed by a german is the P-51
Just in time. I think we're finally about to make SAPI an actual SAPI: I've sent 3 or 4 reports on it already, and as of now (2.18 DEV) it finally got the AP damage model (proper penetration and kinetic damage).
Now I'm forcing Gaijin to finish tuning it by getting rid of fuse latency and make it harder to trigger. (irl API had no fuse and ignited upon impact with armour/modules)
Wish me luck with that.
P.S. - I'm really a fan of F Mk.IX exactly for it meeting stronger opposition than Mk.I-V (people around 3.0-4.0 are easier targets than 4.3-5.3), while not having actually outstanding performance (like LF's absolute climb or Griffon's climb/speed/turn combo). And it's more engaging to fly than 109s (although not as ball-twisting as 190).
And LF/Griffons also face the 288 spam, which is cringe to be frank.
Not sure if this is a good thing gameplay wise.
As inaccurate as it was, this round acting like weak HEI was probably better, than fancy weak AP that it should be.
@@CRL_One Trust me, it will be more useful as an AP. As of now, most of its damage as "weaker HE" is only to skin and occasionally radiators, even in direct hits. Check it yourself - a direct hit on the engine won't even colour it orange.
Meanwhile on the DEV it already has better kinetic damage than (for example) ShVAK's APIs: Hispano's SAPI weighs 130-134g and its muzzle velocity is above average at 840 m/s. What does it mean? Guaranteed pilot snipes and engine kills, not to mention the incendiary effect provided by 12g of S.R.379 inside it.
The only thing at which it loses to ShVAK API is penetration (26mm against 28) due to basically being an HE shell with empty space inside.
@@MDzmitry My concern is primarily with AP doing jack shit (pardon my french) unless it hits something vital.
And "something vital" is usually less than 50% of plane's projection.
@@CRL_One On the other hand current SAPI does jack shit *even* if it hits anything vital (once again, check it in protection analysis).
And no, as a doomed soul with 2+k battles in shvak-having soviet fighters alone I guarantee - hitting vital components is easy because most of them are centered around the frontal half of a fighter.
But APs (or SAPIs) will also have better chances to cut wing spars, tail controls and kill the pilot from straight six.
Current SAPIs are completely useless from straight six and are as useful as plain APs from bigger angles (skin damage can be achieved as effectively with 7,7mm bursts)
@@MDzmitry Lets just hope they get "fuse" settings right this time.
The passive aggressiveness towards the airfield campers, I feel that
The videos where team-mates are actually using their brains are my favourite, it shows you how much of a difference it can make if more people know what they're doing.
The F mk IX is one of my favourite irl planes. In war thunder I find it a very difficult plane to use because 4.3 is such a competitive BR bracket, and I feel like I am often the only plane on my team at altitude facing 3-4 109Gs, J2ms etc and I just get mobbed and 3rd partied.
Fr bruh especially the a6m3s all they do is try to steal ur kills
14:47 It happend to me yesterday, i was phaving fun with my mates until we were in a match with the last guy camping his airfield. He said ''you guys have the energy advantage, so i use the airfield advantage'' lmao i check his profile and its not even a new player but a veteran one. He won the match just because of tickets, we stopped playing right after that.
Retarded veterans do be like that, pussy in premiums usually.
Lol war thunder is fucked up
should've ground pounded
Less time is spent playing the game and more on winning it. Winning should be the motivator, not the main reason. This game conceptually sucks.
there should be a multiplier on ticket drain for how many people in each team are dead
Man, i picked up this plane when the coupon was re released and the price hit like 20$. Very fun plane to run around with. I bring it with my 4.7 Brit lineup in GRB, and play an air superiority role.
I really like to see you fly more props lately, Defyn. Thanks for all the content!
Keep it up defyn I'm loving the constant content flow right now you're my favorite warr thunder UA-camr
8:27 i love your humor, is so dry that is perfect
Your channel has helped me improve a great deal. Thank you Defyn for sharing your expertise. ♥
I thought today was gonna be an F4C video but this is a pleasant surprise
It didn't cost me any money.
It cost me my sanity instead.
The people who faceplant the ground to avoid giving you the kill are somewhat pathetic
Imagine being so bad at the game that you consider that as a sort of win
they die anyway
and now Gaijin keeters towards noobs and gives them RP and SL for dying so it's actually beneficial to die to a player than crash
but those people are too... narcisstic? to understand that
@@GewelReal yes they are, even those who apparently are superior to me but know my schizoposting often crash when they find me in advantage. Last guy literally ruined his ace prospect game because "he didn't want to die to the og KamikazeRico", I was a J5n1 and he was a P51D30. Lame ahh.
@@kingghidorah8106 didn't ask
@@GewelReal you don't need to
I swear something must've been put in the water because players running to the airfield is happening more and more than it used to.
is this a "it's turning the frogs gay" reference?
“Hit ‘m with the ‘whoah, excellent”’
11:53 that was the most dead inside "woah excellent" that i have ever heard
I really appreciate and love your videos and guides, Defyn.
Managed to get this in the event. Kept it. Somehow I just never have good games in it. I just don't have that much fun in the spits and just keep thinking "I could be flying a zero right now instead".
Bro i actually have this thing. I don't even remember which tournament i got it, and when i got the coupon i was like "yeah i have a premium plane to grind british tree now" and consumed it... If i knew it would cost 500$ now, i wouldn't have done that.
I just get this plane coupon in a dragon loot box :D now its 70$ but maybe in future will cost more, my most luckiest day in war thunder after 3 years playing
I hardly ever play spitfires anymore. You will hardly find anyone willing to fight you unless they have a large numbers advantage, they usually just run away until you are out numbered (because you team refused to climb and/or took head-ons and are now all dead) and they just try and drag you low and swarm you. It's not very fun to play them right now, because even the German teams don't know how to energy fight and that spitfires energy retention isn't very good making it not that hard to fight a spitfire if they don't have a large energy advantage, instead everyone just runs from zeros and spitfires cause they can't out-turn them.
Whenever I tried to energy fight a spitfire they just never stalled and pulled straight up in ways that a 109/190 can only do if you put a rocket engine under the nose.
So yeah, fuck fighting them fairly.
@@reinbeers5322 pitching straight up isn't energy fighting, use veritcle scissors and spirals to drain their energy while staying out of their guns. while slow they don't turn well so you can loop over them in a plane with better retention like a 109, while they don't have the authority to pull into you.
@@shoesbutsockless That's the thing, they stall way later than me and pull into my stalling plane easily, if they don't just get guns on me earlier.
it's almost like fighting spitfires is like pulling teeth, so people avoid doing it
@@fulgrimventris8506 it's not fun if it's easy, a challenge can get your heart racing and your hands shaking. If you know you'll get a tough fight why run away, it's such a waste.
It actually hurts me to see people flying the bv155 on the deck early game
It can’t climb well
@@TinyBearTim it climbs better as u get higher and it gets an airspawn u can get to 4k-5.5k meters by the time u get to the battlefield
@@Humphree you can do that in a plane without air spawn
Ppls fly it low because it can turn
@@TinyBearTim yeah they can turn but with literally no energy because the plane performs horribly at low alt so if anyone notices your low energy state you'd be screwed
Pause your video at 20:17 and admire the shape of that Spitfire.
Truly a wonderful beauty !
Would love a Griffon Spitfire vid been trying to grind them more lately 🔥
Take out the Mk22/24 one of these days, been wanting you to make a video on the late Spitfires for a long time :D
My way of engaging spitfires used to be that if it looked like it had too many letters, don't engage.
Gaijin must input the HF Spitfires, these were bonkers at high altitude !
Hey, just started watching your channel and had a quick question: what do you think are the best planes in the swedish tree?
Hoping to see more spitfire content that was great
Your spot on ..7 years ago when I first flew the spit it was great then one day it was horrible after an update..forget which one but I hate flying it out.
I own it, got 3 for me and my friends from this battle royale event when you just kept going head ons. I reallly regret keeping it, back then it was worth about 20gjn…
As someone who has claimed the m60 ambt and the AEC mkII I feel your pain
Good video and kills. It also features a lot of what WT players seem to be like these days. I don't think players have ever been so passive, so short-sighted and just either not knowing or not caring how to play and win the match. It's a toss up if they even bother to climb, and all they do if they aren't behind you with a massive energy advantage is try to run/dive away and/or airfield camp. Inevitably when they get caught out somewhere they have no skills to fall back on and die easily.
Defyn, great videos, I love your channel! Please consider reviewing Spitfire LF Mk IXc American premium.
bro makes every dogfight look smooth and easy
Great video as always! Wondering if you would be making a Ta 152 video soon?
I got it from the 2v2v2 event too back in the day...didn't use the market back then so I used the coupon...that was also a mistake lmao.
Same here, but I would have sold almost immediatly after getting anyway
Could you take out the meteor mk4 one of these times? I’ve been grinding the British air tree and it’s worked wonders for me.
You really know what to do, nice play
That 1st kill on the BF109 was insane
When Defyn plays Microsoft Flight simulator and gets closer to civilian airfield: 😡🤬🥵😡🤬
I can't believe it, defyn is flying a spitfire
Be wicked to see you fly the mk24!
Classic F6C players: dive into the ground when they know they lost the fight
DEFYN the seafire mk17 carried me to jets because i was too bad to cope with the repair costs of the other planes so long ago. so i think you should try it, yeah the 7.7's are kinda steaming garbage compared to the griffons w .50 cals or 4 hispano's but still its a griffon and people do just turn with you when they shouldnt. please consider. you could also just meme the ground pound 5.7 griffon xvIIIe lmao. i will also be going against your advice in the YAK VK video and i WILL be crewing the mk24 and flying it.
would love to see a griffon spit video. one of the 5.7 ones. thanks
Damn your aim was on point...
Man ... Defyn got all the cool toys
Hello again, i've improved considerably but i still have a question, what am i supposed to do with my q and e keys? I mean in theory i know what they do, in practice i just destabilize my plane most times. Any tips?
You can use it in combination with the ailerons to snap roll
I don't really use them much - mostly only useful when near stalling / actually stalling as that's when they'll have the most (useful) effect. As Daboops says you can use them in combination with your A & D keys to roll faster.
Thank you both for the answers, i will continue like that then
11:20 among who?
That shot at 6:00 was the crispest fucking thing I've ever seen
10:18 caught in 4k
i swear to god on the amogus jokes
i wish i had a spitfire with only 20mm.
i love 20mm canons
There are two at the BR this one and another in the TT
@@envygd4902 there is? 😲
have to check.
Spitfire is my favourite plane. I generally play the spitfire a fair bit more spicy compared to you. I actually don’t mind if fighters are above me because I lure them into reversals.
YOOO i was the 109 at 4mins!!! i played that so bad lmao i suck at air rb, im mostly ground rb player
Wait wasn't this on the premium tech tree for around 6,000 ge?
No that’s a prem mark 14
@@stormjet814 oh..thanks for telling me
god damn, man. i get so jealous watching your vids. I mean, I don't play nearly quite as much, but I wish I was this good. Would make grinding so much faster.
18:41 omfg I just ran into the same guy (red comet) 2day and my God mofo was super passive wouldn't engage me even when he had the advantage
Oh man I really wish I hadn't heard the current price of this thing because I have one and I'd really like to have 400-500 gaijin coin over this in the current state of the game. Don't get me wrong, this is a really lovely plane and I enjoy flying it, but I could have so many premium vehicles or lots of premium time instead...
Ah yes
Hit em with the w o h o
EXELLENT
Have you ever considered doing classes in a private match? I reckon you would get many people signing up, I learn loads watching how you move during a fight. Could be DEFYN's Top Gun😂
I've tried so hard to like the spitfires as they're beautiful and iconic. I'm up to mkIX and they've all been horrible. Had a sim game yesterday and took the spitfire for the first time in a couple of months. I couldn't even kill an A.I. fw190😢. Went back to the typhoon and started wrecking again. The spitfire had horrible forward vision, difficult to aim, elliptical wings have horrible stall characteristics that stall from the control surfaces first and it feels so slow and underpowered. Then a small child fires a .22 air rifle at you and your engine is finished.
By the way, correct notation is:
$500.
Fly the the clip winged FR MK XIVe 🙏
I get killed A LOT! But I really can’t understand those people who camp around the airfield! As frustrating as it is to always get shot down, it’s from the fighting that you get all the enjoyment! …and occasionally I get some good kills!
Playing the 190 A-5 hasn't been working out for me at all, always outclimbed and can't do shit.
omggg my favorite planeee
They really need to sell vehicles in a fucking bundle if they gonna go for 500$
broo you make it look soo easy
i kept mine from the 2v2 and i love it
I love the mk9 but 500 dollars? Nah I'll just wait for a deal to come in if its even possible
I forgot I still had this thing
Fly out the TA 152 C3. (German main with 294 kills and 14 death in it) Would like to see how you do with it! 🤙
he did a vid one year ago in C3
Nowadays anyone at a disadvantage just runs towards his AF ... so frustrating and time wasting
Could you please play an update video on the XP50?
You're a Spitflyer now😉😂
5.7 premium mk14c spit at some point please. love it especially the griffon at high alt
Can you play the 5.7 BR tech tree Mk.IX?
Could you test the mk xivc?
Can you try the f100d?
i jsut wanna ask.. HOW TO AFFORD
Just like the Vampire/A28, people are horrified to even get near you lol...
Edit: The epidemic of window lickers in WT has grown to an alarming rate these past few weeks...
i am a 190 player and i rarely run to af i try to force a head on and most time ppl actully go for it and lose
I used up my coupon, flew it like 15 times and completely forgot about it :(
Do a video on the M.B. 5?
500 dollars this plane ? I played it a lot to grind my brits tree but didn't know it was so expensive lol
Please mate do a video on the spitfire mk24
11:20 Among you!?!??!
frogfoot , im waiting !
amogus is possibility!?
Anyone have any recommendations for what nation a beginner should start flying with? And why?
Start with USSR for superior machineguns and flight performance
What color is your spitfire
British Racing Green
It sucks when people camp the air field
For 500$ if should play by itself and guarantee at least 3 kills.