I'll always find it kind of depressing that Norm really looked up to Micheal in the dialogues on the way to the heists, and wanted to make him proud to have him on the team, only for Michael to either not care or completely forget him when he dies...
@@MrPezos obviously not. But in the dialogue afterwards Michael shows absolutely no sorrow or respect at best and at worst literally forgets all about him until Franklin reminds him he's dead.
@@gstxd at least with Trevor it's understandable. Trevor is a terrifying maniac and Michael wanted to get out and stay with his family amd he didn't have another way out. How he acted with Norm's death was just unreasonably horrible...
@@AndreiPopescu So use them all at the beginning, and save the cheap gunman for the big heist. They'll give you a major total of estimately 41 million dollars each character. And, despite how much I'd hate to do so, kill trevor so his pay gets split in between Franklin and Michael. you have at least high 60 million or low 70 million per character.
@@fumikagetokoyami5040 You could use the investing glitch to get 2.1 billion per character. Ik I tried it, and sure I didn't get 2.1 billion per, but instead 500 million per character. Still enough to buy every business, every car 50x over, etc.
@NN Perhaps, but Trevor has shown that he is loyal to the people that he works with. Also, I think that Franklin actually cares when a teammate dies in the previous mission.
In trevoMichael hyped this entire heist up after the train raid. So losing half of that score just makes it super sour. Completely on-brand for how Trevor sees him, and this just fortifies it
@NN atleast Trevor is loyal not like Michael you literally saw that part with Hugh saying he’s going to “read” the script so he can use it for publicity.
@@prestons1 it feels extremely in character. Sure, he's psychotic, but he cares deeply fir the crew. Michael was his best friend so when he "died", Trevor tattooed Michael and hunted him down at the first chance of being alive. Then Trevor went on to keep in contact with "Brad" and the moment Brad turned out dead, he lost all respect for Michael for betraying the team. Even with Franklin, he wants Franklin to be a better person than him and Michael and still winds up caring for, and even helping him, at the endgame.
@@prestons1 Trevor isn't heartless, he's just very Crazy, deeply cares for his friends, except Ronald, Trevor will just rip his legs off piece by piece for eating his donuts.
God, Norm getting pinned down has to be the most horrifying sight in GTA V, not for it's brutallity, but for the fact that he was a comrade that looked up to Michael. Even if Michael moved the car, Norm would've been crippled and would be forced to die alone.
@@thunderlord7321 crown Vic's are about 3-4000lbs, if he's moving at say 15-20 mph...yeah at the least dudes lower spine and legs are basically powder. At best he's confined to a wheelchair but that's alot of internal damage and possibly bleeding from ruptured or severed arteries so he would be dead shortly after anyway
The Paleto Score. On the way to the bank characters share their stories about their first score. I think the video with the story of each employed member would be interesting too.
Ah true, one of the crew mates i believe is a Vagos member which i find interesting because your mostly fighting or running away from them so it was cool to work with one for once
And that is great writing. Psychopathy is never obvious, they don't always torture animals or ignite fires like in cheap movies. They're master manipulators.
But imagine if rockstar made the heist more adaptive to add to the heist making it that you could still complete the heist for example prison break commonly fails because the pilot crashes the plane instead of failing the demolition role is put in as the replacement for the getaway along with a change of objective
@@claiminghawk OR, they just make it so you can choose to run it with AI's or players. Then, it would be like Story Mode, but you could do a 4 person heist with yourself, a friend and two NPC's.
@@claiminghawk It would have been great. Another good idea would be to be able to replace 1 or all other roles with NPC, in case the player wants to play alone or the group can't find 1 or 2 more players for the heist. It will also be fun for someone playing alone since he would be able to play 4 missions instead of one by playing a different role every time. In my case I usually do the flying since most players can't fly. But those are just dreams, it's R* we're talking about.
@@kylekimosabi2062 He definitely cares about his family and Franklin. What happens with Michael is that he always seems to pick what suits his wellbeing better.
I feel like Norms death in Paleto is the most realistic death there could possibly be. Remember, he's wearing about like, 50+ pounds of pure kevlar armor, and some frantic officer fucking rams him into a concrete wall. Norm's surprisingly alive, still tryna live it out. He desperately breathes his last, dude was young. Alls he ever did was want to make Michael proud, kinda like Frank, but in a more naieve concept. What really almost had a tear fall from my eye is the way Michael shrugs off his death, like it was nothing, Proves to you that gangster shit is all bs. Cus when you die, ain the old head or higher ups gonna care about you, they'll just pick up another young kid to die and move on.
Eh, Michael is not a gang member, he is a robber. Getting emotionally attached to people you work with in criminal related matters is a recipe for disaster.
Before any of the heists I wanted to google each crew member and noticed that Norm admires Michael and really wants to work with him but tends to die all the time. I felt bad so I saved him for the Big Score and put him to load the gold in the cars even if he drops some. Sure we lost some money, but I was happy I allowed him to fulfill his dream :)
I feel like GTA V could've been way way better if it took the immersive route and didn't have these 1 path scripted events you can't prevent, and instead gave you the option to change outcomes. Lot of older immersive games have already done this way right and was disappointed when I found out that wasn't the case for V. After playing through the whole game again, I find out they lock your top speed in some chase missions, some vehicles are indestructible AND unstoppable, kill their drivers and they somehow keep driving the same path, can't even change the personal cars.
Mike and other heisters: Taking cover to avoid backblast. Norm, Daryl and Hugh for some reason: Shakes hips while standing directly in front of the door.
I wish R* would’ve added a feature where you could actually train your crew and increase their stats. For example Gunmen have Max health, accuracy and weapon choice, as either Michael or Trevor you could maybe call them and invite them to the gun range to improve their weapons choice as well as sports to increase their health. Drivers could be invited by Franklin to attend or join a street race that way they gain experience about cars and learn better ways to maneuver them. You could also have Lester teach inexperienced hackers about all sorts of encryptions, fire walls, etc. Lester will demand a bigger slice of the profit after the heist and it will be a relatively large time sink but it could be fun. You could even call them up and invite them to bars, strip club, etc.
@@koolaid33 yeah but what he said seems more in depth to me in my opinion and more Realistic then doing 1 heist and they are 25% without. Further practice
Michael is such an interesting character. So worried about himself and the money that he may be a psychopath. But that's never openly revealed, you can just realize through these subtle details
he doesn't kill innocent people even if it seems necessary on the surface. like how in the subtle big score heist, Trevor suggest killing Casey since they don't want Casey to talk. but Michael instead hands him a gold bar, blackmails him and tells him to leave the area, which if you don't know, is not exactly what a psychopath would do.
He literally constantly talks about how the only people he really cares about is his family. That's why he sold Trevor and Brad out and doesn't feel bad about it.
I remember killing off almost everyone on my first playthrough. Lost Norm at the jewelery store, Daryl at the Paleto bank, Hugh got engulfed in flames in the FIB building, and Karim crashed out losing half our gold in the big score helicopter. I'm honestly surprised Karl Abolaj made it given my casualty rate.
I’ve always found norms super sad since he seems to really look up to Michael. It’s impressive how interesting he was, especially for a side character. Like how on the drives he talks about his admiration for Michael
Did anyone noticed that Daryl shake his ass 4:15 before the door blow up? I feel bad for him, but laughed extremly at the same time.😂😂 This dude was just ready and full of hope.😭
I love how everyone feels bad for Norm, forgetting the dude ditched his family (kids included) and everything just to knock over banks like Micheal, something even Michael doesn't appreciate.
I mean, Michael loves his family, so Norm's story about fanaticism, hero worship and abandoning his wife/kids for cheap blow and barely legal prostitutes probably didn't help.
For Daryl, I really don't feel for him so I just got rid of the cop car and took the cash. He thinks we're unprofessionals. Also, if you have Gus Mota with a bad gunman, he'll say "I don't like speak ill for the departed, but dude was in it over his head".
Thank you SO much for making this. Nearly a decade goes by and I STILL have never seen some of these. Lol. I just CAN'T do the Paleto Bay score without Chef. ☺. Thanks for again.
Note: Karim Denz driver can actually live on the big score heist, in order to do it you have to take down all of the Merryweather helicopters quickly before he actually got to the windmill that killed him. So if you happen to get him killed, don't continue but quit the mission if the last checkpoint isn't before his death, if your mission fail checkpoint is before his death then mission fail and reset back before he died to try and shoot down the helicopters again Basically, keep trying to kill all the helicopters - as fast as possible - if he dies, try to be faster
having played all the heists safely, i never saw most of these scenes. i do love how they never die in the shootouts or anything, it's always some tom and jerry bullshit
I not firefighter but this lerned me in school in building is on fire when you open door where fire is behind its gonna release flames outside explosion maybe like i said iam not firefihter but flame release even when you fall throught floor its same thing and its deadly.
He clearly didn't study fire sciences to prep for the heist, if anything it proves he's a bad gunman because he didn't study for the job he was going to assist in.
@@SainsSDR3SD it's called a flashover. The room gets so hot that reintroducing oxygen, like in this case busting through the fire doors, adds enough fuel that the fire reignites. Usually it's explosive. As for falling through the floor that just deadly because of heights into fire. I suppose it is possible but I've never seen or heard of a vertical flashover where a crew busts into the roof and it explodes through it. The real risk on a roof is falling through it into the fire because it's been structurally damaged.
Usually the idea for a Guan is is to "take point" either by kicking down the door after the axe swing or by having his weapon up and making sure nobody comes through immediately. The Backblast however killed him
@@herrsiemes7094 well in the mission they were poseing as firefighters to get away with the heist no questions. But even if this was a guns blazing moment no one who wants to live stands directly in front of a door when clearing a building. There's a reason a door is called the "Fatal Funnel" by SWAT and military guys.
@@nodforkiss there probably was a way to save the gunman, but was scrapped. after the fib raid, I think in the palito score, your gunman is misnamed as another gunman
I feel like the thing that bugs me is that all the gunmen are able to survive the Union Depository no problem while these smaller jobs are death sentences.
Wow. Years of playing this and I never came across these guys deaths. Probably because I always use the same crew members and same heist plan everytime I play through the game lol
Many people pity Norm since he admired Michael so much yet Michael doesn't really care about him. But back then, Norm abandoned his family for the life of crime because he idolized Michael after North Yankton robbery.
You actually missed Karim's death in the Big Score subtle approach, where he'll load the gold too slowly, having to leave $20M behind and he'll get stopped by the police and get arrested, losing around another $40M
@quinnv1905 you're right, he does get arrested. I got confused cause you don't really see what happens and Trevor says "A fourth of the metal just went up in smoke", so I'd assumed he got killed or his car blew up
I remember in one play through of mine, Gus was killed by a part of the building breaking under him in the FIB Raid, though im not sure if it had special voicelines for it.
@@iRoboticGaming All I remember is Gustavo being crushed by a part of the ceiling coming down on him, and then loading an earlier save file so I could still use him for other heists. If my memory serves right it wasn't too far from when they are starting to repel down the elevator shaft.
i remember eddie toh dying in the helicopter during that windmill sequence and not actually failing the mission but then i did something that caused me to fail anyway
I like that R* doesn't make us only love our characters but also makes us hate them, especially Michael. Micheal saw a kid struggling financially and helped him but he is very selfish. Trevor, well is just Trevor but you can he is a piece of shit around people like Ron and Wade but is still willing to help some people and holds people accountable for their actions. He's always blaming Michael for Brad's death and the crew members' deaths. Franklin is the most reasonable character, but the game makes him look like an asshole around lamar. Even at the end of that mission where you save lamar, he gave lamar a 100 dollars even though he had a lot of money. Atleast Franklin helps lamar later in the gta online story so he is the only good person out of the trio and what's not to love about him.
Funny thing is, there are things he cares about outside of himself, he's just that desensitized and cold from his past experiences that he's almost indistinguishable from a psychopath
The way Michael did Norm just makes me feel bad even though it’s a game, like he admired him and wanted to make him proud but little did he know Michael didn’t give a shit.
The events in GTA Online took place before the main story up until the security firm you open up with Franklin. That's why in the first story heist you do Lester says "There is one guy I've done some jobs with, but they're to unpredictable" if you have a online character before starting the main story, he's talking about your character
@@AbysmalRapture online takes place before and after the story. normal heists take place before single player, but casino takes place after. in the intro to the diamond casino heist, lester mentions having taken down the union depository. we can assume karim canonically never died in the UD heist
Way to end the game in such a sad note with karim dying, losing half of the money and everyone being upset and disappointed after they pulled the big one off
02:01 That made me very sad, her legs! 😢 feel like crying, never choose those people since I'm not sad to lose money but their lives even though it's a video game, it happened to me with the crazy jewelry mission and also the FIB Firefighters assault, never But I'm going to choose it and I hope you won't either! 😢😭👍🏻
“Man well looking up to you got that poor fool killed” In every ending, I feel like it has a bit of its own story path. Like this for example, maybe seeing someone else like Franklin who looked up to Michael die, then Michael just brush it off affects what he’d ultimately choose at the end.
Damn.. i always knew Michael was a bad guy, but this compilation of his reactions to crew members dying is proof that he's the real bad guy and Trevor is the good guy. Ever since Michael betrayed Trevor and started accepting money from the government, he became way more concerned about security and money over what really matters, friendship and loyalty, two qualities that both Trevor and Franklin possess.
Everyone's being so hard on Michael with Norm's death. I won't disagree that Michael definitely has some sociopathic traits, (like pretty much most of GTA protagonists) , buttt there's a practical side to this also. Even if Michael DID care , they're in the middle of a freaking war with a corrupt police department. What you expect them to do, carry a dead boy and all his heavy tactical gear too, while still being in the middle of a literal war with the police?
I'll always find it kind of depressing that Norm really looked up to Micheal in the dialogues on the way to the heists, and wanted to make him proud to have him on the team, only for Michael to either not care or completely forget him when he dies...
What's he supposed to do tho? Lift the car off him?
i mean look at what he did to trevor… bro doesn’t care 💀
@@MrPezos obviously not. But in the dialogue afterwards Michael shows absolutely no sorrow or respect at best and at worst literally forgets all about him until Franklin reminds him he's dead.
@@gstxd at least with Trevor it's understandable. Trevor is a terrifying maniac and Michael wanted to get out and stay with his family amd he didn't have another way out. How he acted with Norm's death was just unreasonably horrible...
@@MrPezos well rockstar didn’t care because if you try to help him the car will lock
Imagine trying to save money on the big score heist so you choose a cheap driver and end up losing half the money
Taliana Martinez ✅
@@raskosworld She is cheap but she has skill. Skill level determines if they survive or die, not the cut they ask for.
@@AndreiPopescu So use them all at the beginning, and save the cheap gunman for the big heist. They'll give you a major total of estimately 41 million dollars each character. And, despite how much I'd hate to do so, kill trevor so his pay gets split in between Franklin and Michael. you have at least high 60 million or low 70 million per character.
@@fumikagetokoyami5040 You could use the investing glitch to get 2.1 billion per character. Ik I tried it, and sure I didn't get 2.1 billion per, but instead 500 million per character. Still enough to buy every business, every car 50x over, etc.
@@koolaid33 I did that hack too and I got like 1.5 billion but it just sits there cause I don’t wtf to do with it haha
Norm idolised Micheal and in the end he still wanted to do him proud, little did he know micheal never really cared..
😕
Michael is like that
:(
Michael said he’s not responsible for what norm did he knew the risks also what was Michael gonna do comfort him and get paralyzed to?
@John Wall middle school humor
Trevor actually cares when an accomplice dies. Michael tried to brush the death off in “The Big Score”, but Trevor held him to it.
@NN Perhaps, but Trevor has shown that he is loyal to the people that he works with. Also, I think that Franklin actually cares when a teammate dies in the previous mission.
@NN you forgetting that Trevor is loyal to his friends even crew members
In trevoMichael hyped this entire heist up after the train raid. So losing half of that score just makes it super sour. Completely on-brand for how Trevor sees him, and this just fortifies it
@NN Trevor is waaayyyy more loyal than Michael, just remember who stayed and who came when Option A and B happened.
@NN atleast Trevor is loyal not like Michael you literally saw that part with Hugh saying he’s going to “read” the script so he can use it for publicity.
In the big score, you can really see the difference between Trevor and Michael by Trevor worrying more about the Crew death than about the money.
Seems a bit out of character for Trevor to feel sorry for the death of another person
@@prestons1 it feels extremely in character. Sure, he's psychotic, but he cares deeply fir the crew. Michael was his best friend so when he "died", Trevor tattooed Michael and hunted him down at the first chance of being alive. Then Trevor went on to keep in contact with "Brad" and the moment Brad turned out dead, he lost all respect for Michael for betraying the team. Even with Franklin, he wants Franklin to be a better person than him and Michael and still winds up caring for, and even helping him, at the endgame.
Yep, the best thing about Trevor is his loyalty to his friends/crew. A bit abusive to Wade and Ron but he will not let anything happen to them.
@@prestons1 Trevor isn't heartless, he's just very Crazy, deeply cares for his friends, except Ronald, Trevor will just rip his legs off piece by piece for eating his donuts.
@@patr3ktxd180 yeah he only killed his cousin
God, Norm getting pinned down has to be the most horrifying sight in GTA V, not for it's brutallity, but for the fact that he was a comrade that looked up to Michael. Even if Michael moved the car, Norm would've been crippled and would be forced to die alone.
Norm Would've been arrested I'd expect.
@@Bruh-d Los Santos's Police don't arrest people. One time I pulled over for speeding, and I nearly got shot to death by the PD.
@@ECWPlays this is different pd
@@eggstien_plays9643 Yet they scream "Los Santos Police" when you go to Blaine County
@@ECWPlays depends if u led them out of the city
“I can’t feel my legs, do something!”
Yeah, getting Christine’d by a Crown Vic is like that, I imagine.
Lmao
Could have just reached in and switched to reverse but I guess maybe his legs were turned to powder
crown vic driver probably read christine and legit went "it's christinin' time!"
ye
@@thunderlord7321 crown Vic's are about 3-4000lbs, if he's moving at say 15-20 mph...yeah at the least dudes lower spine and legs are basically powder. At best he's confined to a wheelchair but that's alot of internal damage and possibly bleeding from ruptured or severed arteries so he would be dead shortly after anyway
The Paleto Score. On the way to the bank characters share their stories about their first score. I think the video with the story of each employed member would be interesting too.
Ah true, one of the crew mates i believe is a Vagos member which i find interesting because your mostly fighting or running away from them so it was cool to work with one for once
They also give a bit of a background when introducing themselves in the jewelry job
If u have packy he will talk about the 4 leaf clover heist from gta
One of the characters I believe a high end one is one of the characters who survived the bank heist in gta 4
Ohhh yeah
Rewatching GTA cutscenes makes me appreciate the dialogue again. Would be amazing to experience it all for the first time
Happy Thoughts username checks out
@Happy Thoughts not trying to be "that" guy but if you pretend to be happy you ain't really ever gonna be happy
@Happy Thoughts pre covid? i havent heared about corona for ages now
Replaying it again recently made me realize how overrated it is.
I hate that I rushed my first play through cause I wanted to beat it before GTA online came out
It's very telling how Trevor, the most morally bankrupt GTA protagonist, has more empathy for the crew than Michael
how does being bankrupt give one morals?
@@mewpewsy wow…
@@mewpewsy start reading more why dont you😂😂
@@mewpewsy You need to improve your reading comprehension skills.
It's how Michael got out
Imagine the army can't stop the juggernauts at paleto but some random sheriff deputy in his cruise casually kills one of them
Army “they’re wearing fucking bullet proof armor!”
Sheriff “good thing I ain’t using a bullet.” (Revs engine)
@@crowsenpai5625 sheriff: proceeds to turn to ground meat by the crew
@@crowsenpai5625 i wonder how bulletproof their armor is if one of their tanks hit them
@@eskaban_edits_beats_and_more Depends to be honest, a direct hit sure will do it though
Bullets don't exactly pack three tons of gun powder in them.
Gotta play thru the game several times to get that Michael really IS a psychopath
@@ZadDan95 Trevor is crazy, yes but not a psychopath.
Nah they’re both psychopaths
@@ZadDan95 Trevor - Sociopath
Michael - Psychopath
Franklin - Yee yee ass haircut
He’s more of a sociopath
And that is great writing. Psychopathy is never obvious, they don't always torture animals or ignite fires like in cheap movies. They're master manipulators.
This is what is like doing GTA Online Heists with randoms
Not by a longshot! With these guys you can at least complete the heist. With randoms that don't even speak your language, not so much.
But imagine if rockstar made the heist more adaptive to add to the heist making it that you could still complete the heist for example prison break commonly fails because the pilot crashes the plane instead of failing the demolition role is put in as the replacement for the getaway along with a change of objective
@@claiminghawk OR, they just make it so you can choose to run it with AI's or players. Then, it would be like Story Mode, but you could do a 4 person heist with yourself, a friend and two NPC's.
@@claiminghawk It would have been great. Another good idea would be to be able to replace 1 or all other roles with NPC, in case the player wants to play alone or the group can't find 1 or 2 more players for the heist. It will also be fun for someone playing alone since he would be able to play 4 missions instead of one by playing a different role every time. In my case I usually do the flying since most players can't fly.
But those are just dreams, it's R* we're talking about.
@@koolaid33 Wow! I just wrote something similar almost at the same time as you. Great minds think alike, I guess :)
4:13 man's really shakes his ass before he died lol
Lmao
Bruh
LMAO
bruh
He was bout to start a fortnite dance haha
Man michael is fast to leave people behind
the whole prologue stunt is already clear enough for us to know
We knew this since the first mission, Michael doesn’t care about anybody but himself
@@kylekimosabi2062 and his family and Franklin he doesn't care about his long life pals
Just business
@@kylekimosabi2062 He definitely cares about his family and Franklin. What happens with Michael is that he always seems to pick what suits his wellbeing better.
I feel like Norms death in Paleto is the most realistic death there could possibly be. Remember, he's wearing about like, 50+ pounds of pure kevlar armor, and some frantic officer fucking rams him into a concrete wall. Norm's surprisingly alive, still tryna live it out. He desperately breathes his last, dude was young. Alls he ever did was want to make Michael proud, kinda like Frank, but in a more naieve concept. What really almost had a tear fall from my eye is the way Michael shrugs off his death, like it was nothing, Proves to you that gangster shit is all bs. Cus when you die, ain the old head or higher ups gonna care about you, they'll just pick up another young kid to die and move on.
Yeah, men.
Eh, Michael is not a gang member, he is a robber. Getting emotionally attached to people you work with in criminal related matters is a recipe for disaster.
I'm pretty sure daryl death was realistic as well.
And I always hated it that you can't avoid him getting hit by officer
Niko belic: "War is where the young are tricked by the old and bitter into to kill each other"
Jeez this really makes me feel bad for npcs
GTA V is literally Free Guy 🙃
@xIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl you need a dictionary
@Abusekeks something you should have already known about after second grade of elementary school
Before any of the heists I wanted to google each crew member and noticed that Norm admires Michael and really wants to work with him but tends to die all the time. I felt bad so I saved him for the Big Score and put him to load the gold in the cars even if he drops some. Sure we lost some money, but I was happy I allowed him to fulfill his dream :)
bro it’s a programmed npc not a human with goals 💀
@@anqeIo Hop off Norm
@@anqeIo dude, I know, I'm not (that) stupid. I'm just that much of a softy
@@anqeIo Oh hey, found the "stop having fun" guy.
@@marcelzed1154
It’s possible to give him experience in the fib raid but that requires a sacrifice
Fun fact: if you destroy the car meant to hit darryl before it does, it spawns less enemies and soft locks the game
Well thats lame.
It was a canon event
I feel like GTA V could've been way way better if it took the immersive route and didn't have these 1 path scripted events you can't prevent, and instead gave you the option to change outcomes. Lot of older immersive games have already done this way right and was disappointed when I found out that wasn't the case for V. After playing through the whole game again, I find out they lock your top speed in some chase missions, some vehicles are indestructible AND unstoppable, kill their drivers and they somehow keep driving the same path, can't even change the personal cars.
The way he panicked about not being able to feel his legs crushed my heart
It's funny how Franklin says "We lost a dude" and Michael responds with "Oh yeah, sh*t
Was literally looking for this exact comment
I like Norm and Hugh, so I don't take them on missions where they can get killed.
"Ah sheet,man,he's dead."
*+22$*
Mike and other heisters: Taking cover to avoid backblast.
Norm, Daryl and Hugh for some reason: Shakes hips while standing directly in front of the door.
it makes total sense because they are bad gunmans lol
Aw yea shake them hips
You die when your hips lie.
- shakera
The Paleto Score was one of the best missions ever played on Gta 5
Definitely the best story mode heist
Fr I just choose Packie or Chef, Can't bring myself to choose other like Norm
1:51 1:11 That was honestly brutal and sad, its hits hard how you know you can’t save them no matter what you do in this mission
You save him by not choosing him in the hiest
@@aceman9030 that will make the mission stuck
i hate the scripted deaths in gta 5. to hell with them!
Fr I do hate it everytime the game doesn't let you save someone no matter the choice
Norm did not deserve it
This might have been patched out but at least on the FIB raid you can save the crew member by dying three times and skipping to the next check point.
dont do that it looks like a scam
dude sounds like he's gonna teach me "ro"
@@TehBoiToad The type of dude to shout “wuld” whilst being paralyzed so he can fly to Sovngarde at Mach 3
but then michael will refer to the revived crew member as packie as if you picked packie mcreary as the gunman instead
I wish R* would’ve added a feature where you could actually train your crew and increase their stats. For example Gunmen have Max health, accuracy and weapon choice, as either Michael or Trevor you could maybe call them and invite them to the gun range to improve their weapons choice as well as sports to increase their health. Drivers could be invited by Franklin to attend or join a street race that way they gain experience about cars and learn better ways to maneuver them. You could also have Lester teach inexperienced hackers about all sorts of encryptions, fire walls, etc. Lester will demand a bigger slice of the profit after the heist and it will be a relatively large time sink but it could be fun. You could even call them up and invite them to bars, strip club, etc.
it’s called using them
@@notaperson9090 don't be stupit
it is a thing tho
This is already there, every heist you run with a crew member, their stats increase by 25% if they survived through it. Most notable with Ricky.
@@koolaid33 yeah but what he said seems more in depth to me in my opinion and more Realistic then doing 1 heist and they are 25% without. Further practice
the way norm dies in the paleto score is really sad, the fact he asks Michael if he did a good job is so sad
Then when Michael finds out he's just like shit happens
@@enjoyitbro Fr Michael is so selfish
4:31 "Oh yeah, shit." Most mundane response to remembering the loss of somebody you knew
Michael is such an interesting character.
So worried about himself and the money that he may be a psychopath. But that's never openly revealed, you can just realize through these subtle details
Um the therapist basically says what he is
he doesn't kill innocent people even if it seems necessary on the surface. like how in the subtle big score heist, Trevor suggest killing Casey since they don't want Casey to talk. but Michael instead hands him a gold bar, blackmails him and tells him to leave the area, which if you don't know, is not exactly what a psychopath would do.
@@ryanthereaper5032I don't trust a word the therapist says.
@@quinnv1905 um he spent a lot of time with Michael he knows what Michael is like
@ryanthereaper5032 Yeah, but he is not interested in helping him, and in gta online, I think he is a major criminal.
I love Micheal but I’ll never understand his complete ignorance of the crew member’s deaths.
If you observed him properly, he's more psychotic than Trevor, Trevor is only more chaotic but Townley's more cold
He literally constantly talks about how the only people he really cares about is his family. That's why he sold Trevor and Brad out and doesn't feel bad about it.
Thats white american who bases his personality off movie characters for you
@@Hal-dd1oy wtf are you talking about?
@@zombifiedpariah7392 if you cant understand,cant you just ignore? Wasnt talking to you anyways
I remember killing off almost everyone on my first playthrough. Lost Norm at the jewelery store, Daryl at the Paleto bank, Hugh got engulfed in flames in the FIB building, and Karim crashed out losing half our gold in the big score helicopter.
I'm honestly surprised Karl Abolaj made it given my casualty rate.
Im doing that kind of playthrough, but i sure as hell am spending extra on the big score, cuz i want money
After 9 years, there is a video that shows how one of the members die, on the other hand many players for years have ignored this detail.
I’ve always found norms super sad since he seems to really look up to Michael. It’s impressive how interesting he was, especially for a side character. Like how on the drives he talks about his admiration for Michael
He left his wife and kids to go fantasize about doing jobs with michael
6:42 I love how the helicopter hasn't even hit the ground yet and Trevor's just like "🙄 there goes half our money"
I love how all the Trevor fans/Michael haters just ignore that and continue claiming that Trevor cares about the crew before he cares about the money.
"TrEvOr AcTuAlLy CaReD aBoUT cReW mEmBeRs"
@@joshuagross3151 You clearly didn't watch the end where Trevor berated Michael of losing the crew
@@marcosgonzalez4207 He did, watch the end
@@R8Promethean he mentioned that guy because Michael asked for him
Next heist, Michael sees Norm.
Michael: "Didn't you die?"
Norm: "I thought it's the sequel?"
Did anyone noticed that Daryl shake his ass 4:15 before the door blow up? I feel bad for him, but laughed extremly at the same time.😂😂 This dude was just ready and full of hope.😭
Norm and Hugh did the same
He was about to do that stupid dance Ninja did at the New Years Celebration, but sadly it was too late.
That's why you should always choose the right crew members
I love how everyone feels bad for Norm, forgetting the dude ditched his family (kids included) and everything just to knock over banks like Micheal, something even Michael doesn't appreciate.
literally, but he died a horrible death, looking for answers from his idol and he didn't even answer him
for anyone wondering, he says this during the paleto heist while explaining his first score
@@osana9153
Just because a shitty person dies doesn't magically make them absolved of their sins, though.
I mean, Michael loves his family, so Norm's story about fanaticism, hero worship and abandoning his wife/kids for cheap blow and barely legal prostitutes probably didn't help.
Better then robbing while having a family (Micheal has no room to talk, he puts his own family at risk by doing jobs and still being close to them)
For Daryl, I really don't feel for him so I just got rid of the cop car and took the cash. He thinks we're unprofessionals.
Also, if you have Gus Mota with a bad gunman, he'll say "I don't like speak ill for the departed, but dude was in it over his head".
Makes me wonder what the better gunmen say about crew mates death during the Bureau Raid mission.
Fr daryl thinks hes all the shit but Lester be like:”im not hearing great things about daryl tbh”
Thank you SO much for making this. Nearly a decade goes by and I STILL have never seen some of these. Lol. I just CAN'T do the Paleto Bay score without Chef. ☺. Thanks for again.
GTA being such an uncaring and comical universe makes those moments of sadness hit hard fr
Note: Karim Denz driver can actually live on the big score heist, in order to do it you have to take down all of the Merryweather helicopters quickly before he actually got to the windmill that killed him. So if you happen to get him killed, don't continue but quit the mission if the last checkpoint isn't before his death, if your mission fail checkpoint is before his death then mission fail and reset back before he died to try and shoot down the helicopters again
Basically, keep trying to kill all the helicopters - as fast as possible -
if he dies, try to be faster
“You forget a thousand things every day pal, make sure this is one of ‘em.” That’s one of my favorite lines ever.
Wow.... I actually had no idea that you could lose half of the score at the end of the heist. This game is such a legend.
Norms life is summed up as never look up to a criminal, You are just an asset to them.
When Norm dies in the paleto score its pretty sad
can we drive the police car to help the pinned norm, coz i always went with high pay crew and never seen any of them die
@Furry stuff like we can't enter the police car, or is it that regardless of how we try he dies, like scripted death or something
@Furry stuff hmm poor soul
Wtf, neither of my crewmates ever died 🤣
6:13
“Man he told me he was writing a screenplay.”
“Did he give you a copy? I’d like to read it” 😂
Why?
I remember Karim being the only cheap person I ever hired, my guy made it all the way to the Big One and became a pro
🥺🥺
“M? M! Did I do you proud? I bet you I did!” Breaks my fuckin heart dude
The way he died was sad, you know you can't save him after he Gets Hit.
How Michael sleeps knowing Norm looked up to him and died for his scores:
🛌 😴 😴 💤 💤
How Michael sleeps knowing that he lost 2 tons of gold(100 million$) and the driver died for his scores:
🛌 😴 😴 💤 💤
How Trevor sleeps knowing he regularly abuses and threatens his most loyal friends: 🛌 😴 😴 💤 💤
How Trevor sleeps knowing that Michael fooled him for nearly ten years:
🛌 😴 😴 😠 😡 😡 😡 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬❗‼️‼️
having played all the heists safely, i never saw most of these scenes. i do love how they never die in the shootouts or anything, it's always some tom and jerry bullshit
4:15 LOL NAHHHH THE WAY DARYL DOES THE LITTLE TAIL WAG BEFORE BLOWING UP 😆
I don't understand why would someone stand directly in front of the door you're trying to bust. Can someone explain to me?
I not firefighter but this lerned me in school in building is on fire when you open door where fire is behind its gonna release flames outside explosion maybe like i said iam not firefihter but flame release even when you fall throught floor its same thing and its deadly.
He clearly didn't study fire sciences to prep for the heist, if anything it proves he's a bad gunman because he didn't study for the job he was going to assist in.
@@SainsSDR3SD it's called a flashover. The room gets so hot that reintroducing oxygen, like in this case busting through the fire doors, adds enough fuel that the fire reignites. Usually it's explosive. As for falling through the floor that just deadly because of heights into fire. I suppose it is possible but I've never seen or heard of a vertical flashover where a crew busts into the roof and it explodes through it. The real risk on a roof is falling through it into the fire because it's been structurally damaged.
Usually the idea for a Guan is is to "take point" either by kicking down the door after the axe swing or by having his weapon up and making sure nobody comes through immediately. The Backblast however killed him
@@herrsiemes7094 well in the mission they were poseing as firefighters to get away with the heist no questions. But even if this was a guns blazing moment no one who wants to live stands directly in front of a door when clearing a building. There's a reason a door is called the "Fatal Funnel" by SWAT and military guys.
if you fail 3 times during the fib raid and skip, none of your crew would have died
most likely bug. bad gunman suppose to die in firefighter approach
@@nodforkiss there probably was a way to save the gunman, but was scrapped. after the fib raid, I think in the palito score, your gunman is misnamed as another gunman
I feel like the thing that bugs me is that all the gunmen are able to survive the Union Depository no problem while these smaller jobs are death sentences.
"To get the most money here you must sacrifice one weak Gunner"
I can't bro, i can't...
"M! Mi! I did ya proud, didn't i?"
The guilt that came from the inability to save any single one of them is devastating
I guess the only time you can put a inexperienced gunman is in the Rooftop Approach in the Bureau Raid. And in the Obvious Approach in The Big One.
thanks for using franklins ability for so painfully long that you can’t hear their dialogue on the bike crashes 👍🏻
The guy asking if he made Michael proud is probably the hardest and saddest NPC deaths in the entire game
Fine video keep up the good work
1:33 This becomes much more sadder when you realize Michael inspired Norm to become a robber
Wow. Years of playing this and I never came across these guys deaths. Probably because I always use the same crew members and same heist plan everytime I play through the game lol
Many people pity Norm since he admired Michael so much yet Michael doesn't really care about him. But back then, Norm abandoned his family for the life of crime because he idolized Michael after North Yankton robbery.
You actually missed Karim's death in the Big Score subtle approach, where he'll load the gold too slowly, having to leave $20M behind and he'll get stopped by the police and get arrested, losing around another $40M
does he die or he gets arrested?
Arrested most likely unless the cops get trigger happy
@quinnv1905 you're right, he does get arrested. I got confused cause you don't really see what happens and Trevor says "A fourth of the metal just went up in smoke", so I'd assumed he got killed or his car blew up
Franklin always surprises me. He's a criminal, of course, but he's loyal and respectful until the end, standing up for his own moral code
6:44 You almost met the same fate as Karim lmao😂
It's funny at 5:22 that he's thrown back before the door even explodes.
0:00
Michael: " You a thousand things every day, pal
me: this looks famill-
*Flashbacks from playing the staring mission in gta 5*
Very neat and very well put!
I remember in one play through of mine, Gus was killed by a part of the building breaking under him in the FIB Raid, though im not sure if it had special voicelines for it.
I don't think it is possible for Gus to die, since his stats are too high
@@iRoboticGaming All I remember is Gustavo being crushed by a part of the ceiling coming down on him, and then loading an earlier save file so I could still use him for other heists. If my memory serves right it wasn't too far from when they are starting to repel down the elevator shaft.
@@joshgaming8910 which mode did you choose? the fire brigade or the rooftop?
i remember eddie toh dying in the helicopter during that windmill sequence and not actually failing the mission but then i did something that caused me to fail anyway
"You forget 1000 thing every day make sure this is one of em" bone chilling
I like that R* doesn't make us only love our characters but also makes us hate them, especially Michael. Micheal saw a kid struggling financially and helped him but he is very selfish. Trevor, well is just Trevor but you can he is a piece of shit around people like Ron and Wade but is still willing to help some people and holds people accountable for their actions. He's always blaming Michael for Brad's death and the crew members' deaths. Franklin is the most reasonable character, but the game makes him look like an asshole around lamar. Even at the end of that mission where you save lamar, he gave lamar a 100 dollars even though he had a lot of money. Atleast Franklin helps lamar later in the gta online story so he is the only good person out of the trio and what's not to love about him.
Funny thing is, there are things he cares about outside of himself, he's just that desensitized and cold from his past experiences that he's almost indistinguishable from a psychopath
F: We lost a dude, man
M: Oh yeah, Shit 💀💀💀💀💀
The way Michael did Norm just makes me feel bad even though it’s a game, like he admired him and wanted to make him proud but little did he know Michael didn’t give a shit.
Karim doesn’t die he ends up working in the Diamond Casino Heist as a driver he just probably got locked up for a little bit
That's if Karim Survives Period, Or If Karim Gets Arrested in the Subtle Option.
It's none Canon
The events in GTA Online took place before the main story up until the security firm you open up with Franklin. That's why in the first story heist you do Lester says "There is one guy I've done some jobs with, but they're to unpredictable" if you have a online character before starting the main story, he's talking about your character
@@AbysmalRapture online takes place before and after the story. normal heists take place before single player, but casino takes place after. in the intro to the diamond casino heist, lester mentions having taken down the union depository. we can assume karim canonically never died in the UD heist
Such great videos.
In terms of personality of them,Daryl Johns was kind of a dick,Karim and Hugh was solid and Norm was too innocent.
Way to end the game in such a sad note with karim dying, losing half of the money and everyone being upset and disappointed after they pulled the big one off
That's why you do the big score stealth approach and not loud
In the paleto score I have never seen that part where a patrol car runs over your partner, is it an event that is activated if you pass by somewhere?
Only happens wit Daryl and Norm cuz they have very low stats as gunmen. If u used Gus, Packie, or Chef they wouldn't die.
02:01 That made me very sad, her legs! 😢 feel like crying, never choose those people since I'm not sad to lose money but their lives even though it's a video game, it happened to me with the crazy jewelry mission and also the FIB Firefighters assault, never But I'm going to choose it and I hope you won't either! 😢😭👍🏻
It’s a boy and it was sad that he died and that was his final words 😢
1:19 saddest death i have seen
Mantap emang rockstar bikin gta 5 dengan pilihan dan konsekuensi yang akan ditanggung disetiap apa yang dipilih player
Basically norm needs to learn
god I’m glad I didn’t lose half the score in the big score mission, now that I think of it I might’ve got lucky
3:04 what is bro doing 🧐 (look at his cake yk what i mean)
theres also the altnerate option for the union depository. but they dont die, they were rammed off the road by the police and arrested
5:17 "Door´s Stuck Door´s Stuck!" 💀
“Man well looking up to you got that poor fool killed”
In every ending, I feel like it has a bit of its own story path. Like this for example, maybe seeing someone else like Franklin who looked up to Michael die, then Michael just brush it off affects what he’d ultimately choose at the end.
Damn.. i always knew Michael was a bad guy, but this compilation of his reactions to crew members dying is proof that he's the real bad guy and Trevor is the good guy. Ever since Michael betrayed Trevor and started accepting money from the government, he became way more concerned about security and money over what really matters, friendship and loyalty, two qualities that both Trevor and Franklin possess.
Ending B
@@0din176 Ending C is Michael's redemption. Michael actually changes at the end of Ending C
Heist was the one that made me
play gta 5 but since I finish story mode I never got the same feeling again
Norm on paleto score made me sad
DOOR'S STUCK! I GOTTA BUST IT DOWN!
*Michael then proceeds to hit the funkiest dance moves this side of paleto bay*
Norm really got the Salamanca treatment
Others:(Learns for future heists)
Gunners:(Dies in the worst way possible)
Everyone's being so hard on Michael with Norm's death. I won't disagree that Michael definitely has some sociopathic traits, (like pretty much most of GTA protagonists) , buttt there's a practical side to this also. Even if Michael DID care , they're in the middle of a freaking war with a corrupt police department. What you expect them to do, carry a dead boy and all his heavy tactical gear too, while still being in the middle of a literal war with the police?
I think that what upsets people is just that Micheal didn't care all that much
Funny how Michael is always trying to convince how horrible a person Trevor is, when really it's just him.