Hi, another question. How was the fit length-wise? Seen several other reviews saying it runs small. I'm sure Adidas have changed their si2ing. My 3s are fine, probably a tad small but not had any major issues, but other reviewers are mentioning the toebox reinforcement causing some problems.
Hi. Thanks for the question. We expect there's going to be some contrast between everyone's opinion of the sizing. I wear a size 11UK in the Adios Pro 3. In almost every other running shoe brand, I wear a 10.5UK. As you probably know, most brands convert the men's US to UK size with a full size difference; however, adidas only converts it half a size. I also wear a size 11UK in the Adios Pro 4, and found there to be no difference in sizing - I also had no bruised toe nails or blisters at the end of the marathon. The 11.5UK would be far too big. With regards to the toe box reinforcement, the overlays at the end of Adios Pro 4 actually feels slightly softer and more forgiving than the Adios Pro 3. It's very marginal, but there's noting to suggest that part would cause any issues. As mentioned in the video, the new forefoot rocker rolled my foot forward so quickly on a couple of occasions that I almost stubbed my toe. It is possible that the very aggressive rocker is altering some runner's biomechanics to the point that they're more aware of the front of the shoe. In summary, if you opt for your normal running shoe size in the Adios Pro 4, it's likely they will be too small. We recommend choosing half a size up. We've compared the shape of the shape and length of the Adios Pro 3 and Adios Pro 4 - and they're almost identical.
@@run4it thanks, really good reply. I'm normally a 7 UK, and have the AP3 which are absolutely fine - no major problems with toes. I also have the NB Elite V4 in 7 too - now lengthwise they're 'supposed' to be 255, and the AP3s 250. But they feel exactly the same. If the AP4 is the same as the 3, then I'll probably stick. 😬
Great review. I have the AP3s and they become uncomfortable on longer runs. PBs at HM, but have struggled at 20 mile training runs so would never risk on the full. These appear to fit the bill for me.
Thanks for your comment. Is there a particular part of the Alphaflys that become uncomfortable during your longer runs? Given what the Adios 3 felt like, we didn't expect the Adios Pro 4 to feel plusher than the Alphafly 3. However, we expect a lot of runners will find the Adios Pro 4 feels more forgiving, and potentially more comfortable across a broader range of speeds.
@@run4it by AP3, I mean the Adios Pro 3. They absolutely sing up to half-marathon, but past that I start to get serious pain around the cuboid. Just one foot, as I tend to land more on the lateral side. I think it's also partly due to the positioning of the rod. I replaced the insole with a more cushioned one - which helped - but obviously added 10/15 grams. I did a 20 miler a couple of weeks ago, but still not confident about how they'd feel over the last 6.2. I'll be doing my autumn marathon in NB Elites V4 again in two weeks - they served me well in April - but will be pulling the trigger on the Pro 4s in January. Your review kind of confirms all of the improvements/changes I wanted to see. I wouldn't be seen dead in the Alphaflys - they look like a couple of gravy boats 🤣🤣🤣
@@andrewlink7163 ah sorry got you. Yes, the Adios Pro 4 should hopefully feel a lot better for you. We didn’t mention it in the review, but the softer cushioning could slow down the speed of pronation slightly more, and therefore feel more comfortable. The upper also feels more forgiving - so could potentially alleviate some pressure on the area too. Ultimately there’s no downsides to the new cushioning, it feels softer, and more propulsive. So it’s a win win.
@@run4it can't wait. The AP3s will serve me well for the next few HM races and lots of tempo runs for some time yet - especially in the wet weather. I imagine the softer foam on the 4s will take less time to bed in - it will be good to see 100+ mile reviews though.
Thank you so much for your review brother. Would you please tell me that, my feet size is=25.5 cm. I basically use vaporfly next%2 is 26.5 cm, Saucony endorphin pro2-26.5 cm. I never used Adidas brand before. But, i heard that their size little bit big in size. So please ensure my brother that, What size can be the good comfortable for adios pro 4, if my feet size is 25.5 cm. I would appreciate. Thanks again!❤🧡
@@aayusharora2459 they should be. There’s great outsole coverage, and the new Lightstrike Pro midsole shouldn’t be any less durable. We’ll continue to test them and report back.
@@13lars yes there’s still carbon-infused ENERGRODS. They now curve in a different way, as the rocker point has moved from 67% to 60%. The underfoot experience feels both smoother and more propulsive.
@@toi3213 white super-shoes usually show quite a lot of signs of wear after a marathon. Walking through the park to get to the start line at Berlin was quite muddy. Additionally, the starting pen was absolutely crazy, and runners were standing on my feet and scuffing the shoes. The important thing is that the outsole isn’t showing any obvious signs of wear, and the midsole hasn’t changed at all. The upper has some marks, but isn’t damaged in any way. We expect these will perform very well for a number of marathons. But we’ll test them and find out if that’s the case 👍
The adios pro 3 shoes are super durable and people use them as every day trading shoes (as well as for races), putting many km into the shoes! I think that’s why I went for them, as some other super shoes don’t last quite as long. I’m wondering if the 4 will also be as durable, or maybe slightly less due to them using a softer foam. These look so amazing though! Also I heard the foam is bouncier and produces great energy return!!
@@gabr131s we couldn’t agree more. The Adios Pro 3 are one of the most (if not the most) durable super shoes we’ve tested. We would caution using them as an everyday option - as that could lead to overloading problems at the proximal point of the hamstrings. The new Lightstrike Pro compound in the Adios Pro 4 is much softer and more energy returning. As a result, it feels considerably bouncier. Time will tell as to how they will last. However, the foam feels like it’s compressed less after 50km - in comparison to the foam in the Adios Pro 3. adidas mentioned that there is the potential for the foam to produce even more energy return as it gets compressed. The outsole looks very durable on the bottom - and as long as this stays in place, the soft midsole should be protected. One of the images in the video shows a prototype that was worn for 240km - and they looked in really good shape when we saw them.
@@run4itwhoah whoah whoah why do you say that about the hamstring? I hurt mine in the same place from a bit of mileage in the pro 3s!!! I absolutely love my pro 3s but is there something I need to be careful about wearing them?
Great video!
Hi, another question. How was the fit length-wise? Seen several other reviews saying it runs small. I'm sure Adidas have changed their si2ing. My 3s are fine, probably a tad small but not had any major issues, but other reviewers are mentioning the toebox reinforcement causing some problems.
Hi. Thanks for the question. We expect there's going to be some contrast between everyone's opinion of the sizing.
I wear a size 11UK in the Adios Pro 3. In almost every other running shoe brand, I wear a 10.5UK. As you probably know, most brands convert the men's US to UK size with a full size difference; however, adidas only converts it half a size.
I also wear a size 11UK in the Adios Pro 4, and found there to be no difference in sizing - I also had no bruised toe nails or blisters at the end of the marathon. The 11.5UK would be far too big.
With regards to the toe box reinforcement, the overlays at the end of Adios Pro 4 actually feels slightly softer and more forgiving than the Adios Pro 3. It's very marginal, but there's noting to suggest that part would cause any issues.
As mentioned in the video, the new forefoot rocker rolled my foot forward so quickly on a couple of occasions that I almost stubbed my toe. It is possible that the very aggressive rocker is altering some runner's biomechanics to the point that they're more aware of the front of the shoe.
In summary, if you opt for your normal running shoe size in the Adios Pro 4, it's likely they will be too small. We recommend choosing half a size up. We've compared the shape of the shape and length of the Adios Pro 3 and Adios Pro 4 - and they're almost identical.
@@run4it thanks, really good reply. I'm normally a 7 UK, and have the AP3 which are absolutely fine - no major problems with toes. I also have the NB Elite V4 in 7 too - now lengthwise they're 'supposed' to be 255, and the AP3s 250. But they feel exactly the same.
If the AP4 is the same as the 3, then I'll probably stick. 😬
Great review. I have the AP3s and they become uncomfortable on longer runs. PBs at HM, but have struggled at 20 mile training runs so would never risk on the full. These appear to fit the bill for me.
Thanks for your comment. Is there a particular part of the Alphaflys that become uncomfortable during your longer runs?
Given what the Adios 3 felt like, we didn't expect the Adios Pro 4 to feel plusher than the Alphafly 3. However, we expect a lot of runners will find the Adios Pro 4 feels more forgiving, and potentially more comfortable across a broader range of speeds.
@@run4it by AP3, I mean the Adios Pro 3. They absolutely sing up to half-marathon, but past that I start to get serious pain around the cuboid. Just one foot, as I tend to land more on the lateral side. I think it's also partly due to the positioning of the rod.
I replaced the insole with a more cushioned one - which helped - but obviously added 10/15 grams. I did a 20 miler a couple of weeks ago, but still not confident about how they'd feel over the last 6.2.
I'll be doing my autumn marathon in NB Elites V4 again in two weeks - they served me well in April - but will be pulling the trigger on the Pro 4s in January. Your review kind of confirms all of the improvements/changes I wanted to see.
I wouldn't be seen dead in the Alphaflys - they look like a couple of gravy boats 🤣🤣🤣
@@andrewlink7163 ah sorry got you. Yes, the Adios Pro 4 should hopefully feel a lot better for you.
We didn’t mention it in the review, but the softer cushioning could slow down the speed of pronation slightly more, and therefore feel more comfortable.
The upper also feels more forgiving - so could potentially alleviate some pressure on the area too.
Ultimately there’s no downsides to the new cushioning, it feels softer, and more propulsive. So it’s a win win.
@@run4it can't wait. The AP3s will serve me well for the next few HM races and lots of tempo runs for some time yet - especially in the wet weather.
I imagine the softer foam on the 4s will take less time to bed in - it will be good to see 100+ mile reviews though.
@@andrewlink7163 we’ll start putting the miles in and report back soon. Yeah they don’t need any breaking in at all.
Thank you so much for your review brother. Would you please tell me that, my feet size is=25.5 cm.
I basically use vaporfly next%2 is 26.5 cm, Saucony endorphin pro2-26.5 cm. I never used Adidas brand before. But, i heard that their size little bit big in size. So please ensure my brother that, What size can be the good comfortable for adios pro 4, if my feet size is 25.5 cm. I would appreciate. Thanks again!❤🧡
Are they still as durable as adios pro 3 ?
@@aayusharora2459 they should be. There’s great outsole coverage, and the new Lightstrike Pro midsole shouldn’t be any less durable. We’ll continue to test them and report back.
Still rods?
@@13lars yes there’s still carbon-infused ENERGRODS. They now curve in a different way, as the rocker point has moved from 67% to 60%. The underfoot experience feels both smoother and more propulsive.
That looks beat up for just 1 race.
@@toi3213 white super-shoes usually show quite a lot of signs of wear after a marathon.
Walking through the park to get to the start line at Berlin was quite muddy. Additionally, the starting pen was absolutely crazy, and runners were standing on my feet and scuffing the shoes.
The important thing is that the outsole isn’t showing any obvious signs of wear, and the midsole hasn’t changed at all. The upper has some marks, but isn’t damaged in any way.
We expect these will perform very well for a number of marathons. But we’ll test them and find out if that’s the case 👍
The adios pro 3 shoes are super durable and people use them as every day trading shoes (as well as for races), putting many km into the shoes! I think that’s why I went for them, as some other super shoes don’t last quite as long. I’m wondering if the 4 will also be as durable, or maybe slightly less due to them using a softer foam. These look so amazing though! Also I heard the foam is bouncier and produces great energy return!!
@@gabr131s we couldn’t agree more. The Adios Pro 3 are one of the most (if not the most) durable super shoes we’ve tested. We would caution using them as an everyday option - as that could lead to overloading problems at the proximal point of the hamstrings.
The new Lightstrike Pro compound in the Adios Pro 4 is much softer and more energy returning. As a result, it feels considerably bouncier. Time will tell as to how they will last. However, the foam feels like it’s compressed less after 50km - in comparison to the foam in the Adios Pro 3.
adidas mentioned that there is the potential for the foam to produce even more energy return as it gets compressed.
The outsole looks very durable on the bottom - and as long as this stays in place, the soft midsole should be protected. One of the images in the video shows a prototype that was worn for 240km - and they looked in really good shape when we saw them.
@@run4it thanks for the great reply man!! Adios pro 4 looks like an amazing shoe 💪🏽
@@run4itwhoah whoah whoah why do you say that about the hamstring? I hurt mine in the same place from a bit of mileage in the pro 3s!!!
I absolutely love my pro 3s but is there something I need to be careful about wearing them?