Anyone notice that Sally has basically the only remotely normal adult body in the entire movie? Jack is a freaking twig and then some people are like walking beach balls. I found this hilarious at first
Lol, ignorant.... Cross roads are in Kentucky... hence him being known there when someone sells their soul... He is KNOWN in England and France as JACK THE RIPPER... Try again mister cynic.
It’s his fighting with what people of expect of him and how he feels. People don’t give a shit about jacks feelings. But in his desperation for approval and love from others he takes over Christmas thinking it could fill the emptiness inside. But really he just needed to be comfortable in his own skin and live his life. Sally showed him that.
He probably just realized Jack was a real monster on Halloween, panicked, told everyone he'd seen a skeleton/scarecrow, no one believed him, and his life was ruined or something like that.
I just realized nightmare before christmas is about depression, i happened to recogniize myself in some bits of this song. it's strange that i didn't see that when i was a kid.
If they do a sequel, they have to have a scene in Kentucky where one guy yells out: "My god, it's MISTER UNLUCKY!" Otherwise, what are we doing here???
+shadsea madakin Actually, +Thor Wolfsbane is correct. Slenderman is based upon an old Romanian folktale called "Der Grossman", translating to "tall man". Sorry, I felt that I should put that out there. (: Old folklore like this interests me.
I just realized that the thing Jack was missing was love... and at the end of the movie that empty hole was filled by his love for Sally... Am I wrong?
Here are my lyrics for Sally if she married Jack: “There are few who'd deny, at what we do, we are the best For our talents are renowned far and wide! When it comes to surprises in those moonlit nights, We excel without ever even trying!~ With the slightest little effort of our ghostlike charms, We have seen grown men give out a shriek! With the wave of his hand, and a well-placed moan, We have swept the very bravest off their feet! “Yet year after year, it's the same routine… And I grow so weary of the sight of those things… And I, Sally, the Pumpkin Queen… Have grown so tired of the same old thing… “Oh, somewhere deep inside of my heart There’s something tearing it apart… There's something there, burned deep in my mind… A jealousy that turns it unkind… “He’s a master of fright, I’m a demon of light And we’ll scare you right out of your pants! To the all children who are orphans, I'm Miss Fortune And we’re known throughout England and France! “And since I am a doll, I can feel no pain at all, To endure such different confrontations! I’m the only woman to own him like I can! With the fury of my burning frustrations! “But why would he ever understand… That his Pumpkin Queen with this broken grin… Would tire of this abuse, if he only understood… I’d make it all stop if I only could… “To that tall man I do love so dear… Why do you stare at these harlots here…? This pain you’ve wrapped ‘round my heart like twine… Causes the empty tears that I cry every night…”
Hey Win! Fancy stumbling upon you here! And yes I would very much like to see that! Honestly, any song sung by Hamill in the voice of Joker would be pretty much awesome, I think =p
flashbacks! the love and glory of my childhood! (I'm only 15, I'm still a child! xD) when I was about 8 I was terrified of the Nightmare Before Christmas! when ever I would watch it was around bed time so I would have legit night-terrors! I would wake up my mom on accident because I was sitting on my headboard screaming! but now I freaking love this movie! I had serious problems when I was little jesus freaking christ!
I like when he says "BUT WHO HERE WOULD EVER UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUMPIN KING WITH A SKLATION GREN WOULD TRIER OF HIS CROWN , IF THEY THEY ONLY UNDERSTOOD HE'D GIVE IT ALL UP IF ONLY HE COULD' and when he says 'OH THEIRS A EMPTY PLACE IN MY THAT CALLS OUT FOR SOMETHING UNKNOWN THE PAME AND PRAISE COME YEAR AFTER YEAR DOSE NOYHING FOR THESE EMPTY TEARS'.
And how jack was obsessed with Christmas? Well, her found something new. So if jack new more about his past life with his mother Emily, would jack not be depressed?
The guy from Kentucky seemed to know Jack for being Mr. Unlucky since Jack probably died for bad luck, and the guy saw when Jack died so the guy must keep Jack in his memories for being someone unlucky.
There are few who'd deny, at what I do I am the best For my talents are renowned far and wide When it comes to surprises in the moonlit night I excel without ever even trying With the slightest little effort of my ghostlike charms I have seen grown men give out a shriek With the wave of my hand, and a well-placed moan I have swept the very bravest off their feet Yet year after year, it's the same routine And I grow so weary of the sound of screams And I, Jack, the Pumpkin King Have grown so tired of the same old thing Oh, somewhere deep inside of these bones An emptiness began to grow There's something out there, far from my home A longing that I've never known I'm a master of fright, and a demon of light And I'll scare you right out of your pants To a guy in Kentucky, I'm Mister Unlucky And I'm known throughout England and France And since I am dead, I can take off my head To recite Shakespearean quotations No animal nor man can scream like I can With the fury of my recitations But who here would ever understand That the Pumpkin King with the skeleton grin Would tire of his crown, if they only understood He'd give it all up if he only could Oh, there's an empty place in my bones That calls out for something unknown The fame and praise come year after year Does nothing for these empty tears
1:18 and 2:45 I always sing in some way so if I did a try not to sing challenge and this song came up I'll fail. I love this song so much "Oh somewhere deep inside of these bones an emptiness began to grow. There's something out there far from my home a longing that I've never known. Oh there's an empty place in my bones that calls out for something unknown. The fame and praise come year after year does nothing for these empty tears...."
I love singing this song and pretending to be Jill the Pumpkin Queen, all my friends and family who've heard me sing any villains song or just a song that's kinda creepy agree that I was born to voice a Disney villain.
@XigMasterMac Actually, hate to break it to ya, but Slenderman was originally "The Great Man," a German mythological being, The Great Man is just the English translation of his German name. I'm of German descent, and I am also well versed in many mythological beings, trust me, he hasn't been around for a few years, his original being was an incarnation of Azriel, the Death Angel. Sorry, like you said, don't trust the internet :)
This is such an early comment but I love this movie and it’s sad that this was posted 11 years back ! Best Tim burton film ever love u Pumpkin king and before anybody says it’s a Christmas film shit ur gob it’s a Halloween film
"Im a master of fright,and a demon of light and I'll scare you right out of your pants to a guy in Kentucky, I'm mister unlucky and I'm know through out England and france"
This is a beautiful song well sang and amazing and beautiful lyrics when i watch this i always play this song over andover because it is beautiful and again well sung.
Oh,There's an empty place in my bones That calls out for something unknown the fame and praise come year after year, Does nothing for these empty tears.
i luv the part when he calms his voice he walks up on the hill and his song is amost like my life... I luv this song!!!!! Thanks for uploading this video
"And since I am dead I can take off my head, to recite Shakespirian quotations, no animal or man, can SCREAM as I can, with the fury of my re-ci-tations."👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🎃
Same!! I watched this movie so much I basically knew the entire script! I'd literally watch it once and then maybe like halfway the next time before getting bored each morning!
wooowww girl! you're not the only one! did u know i read somewhere in an online review of the movie they described jack's singing and looks as phantom like and Red Death! bang right on with the detail
@6LuverMusic Yes , it is " To a guy in Kentucky " , he says this because Kentucky is known for a horse derbys . Lucky is often a name given to one of the horses , so , in oppisite , Jack is Mr. Unlucky to a horse jockey .
you are one of the few of the internet i actually respect, im not a hipster but i hate how people only know slenderman from that stupid "slender" game since its mainstream, and compare him to jack
Anyone notice that Sally has basically the only remotely normal adult body in the entire movie? Jack is a freaking twig and then some people are like walking beach balls. I found this hilarious at first
Terry Reeves oh my god I never noticed. Maybe she is a living person in disguise lol
They are monsters lol
“Walking beach balls” 😂😂😂
At first?
"Normal adult body" you mean normal besides her limbs constantly falling off and having to sew herself back together lol
His talents are renowned far and wide, but he's only known throughout England and France, and by ONE GUY in Kentucky...
Ding
Mariofan 1985 cinemasins?
Lol, ignorant....
Cross roads are in Kentucky... hence him being known there when someone sells their soul...
He is KNOWN in England and France as JACK THE RIPPER...
Try again mister cynic.
*laughs*
I’m that guy in Kentucky
"Oh, somewhere deep inside of these bones, an emptiness began to grow" damn. That IS deep.
Depression
Deep and relatable
JadeStuff it ‘tis
Yep, it is. Bone deep.
R/I'm14andThisIsDeep
I think that's the proper subreddit
Jack transitions from Cockiness, to sadness, to confidence and back into sadness all in one song.
Jack is one bipolar skeleton, ngl
Oh yeah... Ha
Jack needs a hug
@@clowneteeth3367 Omg Striker is that you?!
Yeah!
It’s his fighting with what people of expect of him and how he feels. People don’t give a shit about jacks feelings. But in his desperation for approval and love from others he takes over Christmas thinking it could fill the emptiness inside. But really he just needed to be comfortable in his own skin and live his life. Sally showed him that.
"The fame and praise come year after year, does nothing for.....these empty tears."
My favorite part!
As soon as that part came, I saw this comment...
All burnt out gifted kids who have parents and peers with overwhelming expectations, please stand for your national anthem
I always find my people everywhere 😭
🫡
*Stands*
Why is so fucking accurate? Doctor, attorney, doctor, attorney is all I heard growing up. Nah I'm going trucking.
My favorite quote from this song is, " and since I am dead I can take off my head to recite Shakespearean quotations
Same!
same here
he's a skeleton, so it makes sense
he's a skeleton, so it makes sense
he's a skeleton, so it makes sense
i like how sally just stalks jack during the whole movie she is just like " notice me senpai.."
Lol xD
Irma Menjivar XD
+Fun Fries Sally is Yandere there's the truth
Irma Menjivar yes...SALLY'S A YANDERE EVERYONE!!!
pewdiepie voice: NOTICE ME SENPIIIIEEE~
What did Jack do to that poor guy in Kentucky?
that good succ
It couldn't have been that good if he calls Jack 'Mr Unlucky.'
Sawyer Patton well he doesnt exactly have lips
He probably just realized Jack was a real monster on Halloween, panicked, told everyone he'd seen a skeleton/scarecrow, no one believed him, and his life was ruined or something like that.
Sawyer Patton my friend Lizzy says her uncle is the guy in Kentucky.
Danny elfman is such an amazing writer, composer and singer. It’s like he’s dropping bars on us with each line
am I the only one thinking he said "have grown so tired of the same damn thing"
+Paige the crazy fangirl You're not alone, don't worry.
Yesssssss
He's not the only 1 who's tired of the same thing
No, you’re not the only one, trust me.
I hope I grow up to be a voice actor just like him, Jack Skellington!
Where are you now?
It’s that time of year again
Where I wish that it’s Halloween or Christmas and I start to break down and listen to both
It’s June
I watch the movie at least once a year from oct 1st to dec 31 but most liky more then one and the music all year round
for me this time usually starts in April...
Lol, when I was 7 I was in love with Jack, wtf
I swear I thought it said 71
lol
I still am
Abby is blue well, me too
mythic I'm a teenager now and I still am
This shows how tired jack is of the same routine and praise. The pain in his voice is noticeable.
2:46 my favorite part of the song
Gamer Girl Ella123 SAMEE
Gamer Girl Ella123 same!
Same!
Sameeee
Same!!
I just realized nightmare before christmas is about depression, i happened to recogniize myself in some bits of this song.
it's strange that i didn't see that when i was a kid.
Erin _ oml my childhood is now ruined. Non wonder i turned out screwed up
Yeah... Very strange 😒
WAIT IT REPRESENTS DEPRESSION??!!
But what would like Christmas town represent?
@@brodysinko7872 I think it represents finding something in your life that pulls you out of depression.
I woke up and this song was randomly in my head
So many times
😂😂😂💀
Last year, in Halloween- someone played this :D
I was shook
Jack...I know how you feel.
Daniel Johnson Sally?😂😂
Daniel Johnson sane just a different metaphor
Lolbit thefuntimefox *You’ve come back.*
1:18
My favorite part of the song...this dude is such a great singer!
He is an awesome singer - and even more impressive - he wrote all this music!
1:18
If they do a sequel, they have to have a scene in Kentucky where one guy yells out: "My god, it's MISTER UNLUCKY!" Otherwise, what are we doing here???
Don't people know that Jack was "alive" BEFORE slenderman?
Unless Jack is 1000 year old fairy tale, I doubt it
Slenderman didn't become popular until recently, but he originally was a legend known as tall man, they just change the name
+Thor Wolfsbane slender man was created on a image board so no he is not real
+shadsea madakin Actually, +Thor Wolfsbane is correct. Slenderman is based upon an old Romanian folktale called "Der Grossman", translating to "tall man". Sorry, I felt that I should put that out there. (: Old folklore like this interests me.
PotatoSeason no that was added on to by some one else and NOT the original creator
I just realized that the thing Jack was missing was love... and at the end of the movie that empty hole was filled by his love for Sally...
Am I wrong?
Not only love, but heart-warming feelings... I think that's the reason he felt so attached to Christmas
Yes
@@arbitrarylib Damn, gotta shut me down like that, huh?🤣
"Jack... I know how you feel.."
~ Sally
Here are my lyrics for Sally if she married Jack:
“There are few who'd deny, at what we do, we are the best
For our talents are renowned far and wide!
When it comes to surprises in those moonlit nights,
We excel without ever even trying!~
With the slightest little effort of our ghostlike charms,
We have seen grown men give out a shriek!
With the wave of his hand, and a well-placed moan,
We have swept the very bravest off their feet!
“Yet year after year, it's the same routine…
And I grow so weary of the sight of those things…
And I, Sally, the Pumpkin Queen…
Have grown so tired of the same old thing…
“Oh, somewhere deep inside of my heart
There’s something tearing it apart…
There's something there, burned deep in my mind…
A jealousy that turns it unkind…
“He’s a master of fright, I’m a demon of light
And we’ll scare you right out of your pants!
To the all children who are orphans, I'm Miss Fortune
And we’re known throughout England and France!
“And since I am a doll, I can feel no pain at all,
To endure such different confrontations!
I’m the only woman to own him like I can!
With the fury of my burning frustrations!
“But why would he ever understand…
That his Pumpkin Queen with this broken grin…
Would tire of this abuse, if he only understood…
I’d make it all stop if I only could…
“To that tall man I do love so dear…
Why do you stare at these harlots here…?
This pain you’ve wrapped ‘round my heart like twine…
Causes the empty tears that I cry every night…”
It's a bit off with the syllables it goes pretty well. Now we need both Jack and Sally singing their versions together.
DAMN YOU FUCKING GOOOD MAN
dude did u actually watch the whole movie? she did marry him and have little skeleton babes
@Krystal Harwood my mom got a tattoo of my dad as jack my mom as sally and my little sisters as female skellys and me as baby jack skeleton
.... Wait why did he cheat?!
Who would love to hear Mark Hamill sing this in the voice of the Joker?
+Winchester MC-NL IKR? That needs to happen!
Hey Win! Fancy stumbling upon you here! And yes I would very much like to see that! Honestly, any song sung by Hamill in the voice of Joker would be pretty much awesome, I think =p
TheWackyViking Holy crap! Hey Wacky! Yeah I know right? Songs of Hamill. Should be a thing
We should get a #HamillSings going on Twitter. Cool guy like him will probably jimp on the band wagon if there are enough people tweeting about it =D
Winchester MC-NL I would!
I'm a straight dude but I have a gay crush on jack.
I'm gay and I kinda have a crush on him (and sally)
You might be bi
Well, do I have news for you…
I know lock is a kid but I crush on him 😶😦😂
Who’s gonna tell him 👀
when you are revisiting your childhood..^¶^
Ur profile pic is amazing 😂
Yas
1:19- 1:45 and 2:46- 3:14 are my favorite parts in this song. I love this movie! :)
Me too
"To a guy in Kentucky, " WHERE ARE THE KENTUCKIANS AT OR AM I THE ONLY ONE?
*goes through several comments to find this, and slowly raises my hand*
*raises hand* IM HERE!
EYYYYYY, Kentukians like us are great.
Me!
I’m here im the guy . He’s mr unlucky
I love jack skellington so much
Yuuka Kiraga me too
Yuuka Kiraga sane here doesn’t everybody
flashbacks! the love and glory of my childhood! (I'm only 15, I'm still a child! xD) when I was about 8 I was terrified of the Nightmare Before Christmas! when ever I would watch it was around bed time so I would have legit night-terrors! I would wake up my mom on accident because I was sitting on my headboard screaming! but now I freaking love this movie! I had serious problems when I was little jesus freaking christ!
That profile picture XD
Wysteria xDD sass level: 100000%
Every time he says "To a guy in Kentucky" I think of home because I was born and raised in Frankfort, Kentucky.
i love your profile picture XD
that means he gonna getcha
I like when he says "BUT WHO HERE WOULD EVER UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUMPIN KING WITH A SKLATION GREN WOULD TRIER OF HIS CROWN , IF THEY THEY ONLY UNDERSTOOD HE'D GIVE IT ALL UP IF ONLY HE COULD' and when he says 'OH THEIRS A EMPTY PLACE IN MY THAT CALLS OUT FOR SOMETHING UNKNOWN THE PAME AND PRAISE COME YEAR AFTER YEAR DOSE NOYHING FOR THESE EMPTY TEARS'.
@Nora Nava-BernalYeah.
Singing it with the grammar mistakes is amazung, try it.
It really shows a gentle side to jack, which is why I love this!🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
one of the best if not the best movies ever made
Such excellent musical composition! Bravo Danny Elfman!
And how jack was obsessed with Christmas? Well, her found something new. So if jack new more about his past life with his mother Emily, would jack not be depressed?
Oh somewere deep inside of these bones an emptiness began to grow there's something out there far from my home a longing that I never known
Oh, Therese an empty place in my bones That calls out for something unknown the fame and praise from year after year
Hope Is All You Need In Life my favorite part
The guy from Kentucky seemed to know Jack for being Mr. Unlucky since Jack probably died for bad luck, and the guy saw when Jack died so the guy must keep Jack in his memories for being someone unlucky.
True... But it’s more fun to think that Jack did something to that one guy in Kentucky.
In my opinion, best song out of the whole movie-
There are few who'd deny, at what I do I am the best
For my talents are renowned far and wide
When it comes to surprises in the moonlit night
I excel without ever even trying
With the slightest little effort of my ghostlike charms
I have seen grown men give out a shriek
With the wave of my hand, and a well-placed moan
I have swept the very bravest off their feet
Yet year after year, it's the same routine
And I grow so weary of the sound of screams
And I, Jack, the Pumpkin King
Have grown so tired of the same old thing
Oh, somewhere deep inside of these bones
An emptiness began to grow
There's something out there, far from my home
A longing that I've never known
I'm a master of fright, and a demon of light
And I'll scare you right out of your pants
To a guy in Kentucky, I'm Mister Unlucky
And I'm known throughout England and France
And since I am dead, I can take off my head
To recite Shakespearean quotations
No animal nor man can scream like I can
With the fury of my recitations
But who here would ever understand
That the Pumpkin King with the skeleton grin
Would tire of his crown, if they only understood
He'd give it all up if he only could
Oh, there's an empty place in my bones
That calls out for something unknown
The fame and praise come year after year
Does nothing for these empty tears
One of my faves in the move this and
Kidnap the sandy claws and this is Halloween
"I have swept the very bravest off their feet." I like that line.
1:18 and 2:45 I always sing in some way so if I did a try not to sing challenge and this song came up I'll fail. I love this song so much
"Oh somewhere deep inside of these bones an emptiness began to grow. There's something out there far from my home a longing that I've never known.
Oh there's an empty place in my bones that calls out for something unknown. The fame and praise come year after year does nothing for these empty tears...."
I hear that. Especially when you put your feel into it like you are living it.
Oh somewhere deep inside these bones an emptiness began to grow
I love that part XD and the other one that sounds like that
I love singing this song and pretending to be Jill the Pumpkin Queen, all my friends and family who've heard me sing any villains song or just a song that's kinda creepy agree that I was born to voice a Disney villain.
This film is perfect for Halloween and Christmas.
I love Zero.
@XigMasterMac
Actually, hate to break it to ya, but Slenderman was originally "The Great Man," a German mythological being, The Great Man is just the English translation of his German name. I'm of German descent, and I am also well versed in many mythological beings, trust me, he hasn't been around for a few years, his original being was an incarnation of Azriel, the Death Angel. Sorry, like you said, don't trust the internet :)
This is such an early comment but I love this movie and it’s sad that this was posted 11 years back ! Best Tim burton film ever love u Pumpkin king and before anybody says it’s a Christmas film shit ur gob it’s a Halloween film
Nor animal nor man can scream like I can with the fury of my recitations
I love the way he says "tire". it always gives me goosebumps
this is one of my fav songs
"Im a master of fright,and a demon of light and I'll scare you right out of your pants to a guy in Kentucky, I'm mister unlucky and I'm know through out England and france"
Slenderman originated on a web forum. He's not an old legend.
This is a beautiful song well sang and amazing and beautiful lyrics when i watch this i always play this song over andover because it is beautiful and again well sung.
113 people had a bad vision like Sally did.
Oh,There's an empty place in
my bones
That calls out for something
unknown
the fame and praise come year
after year,
Does nothing for these empty
tears.
i luv the part when he calms his voice he walks up on the hill and his song is amost like my life... I luv this song!!!!! Thanks for uploading this video
This movie shows so many emotions😍
If anything, Slendy is based on Jack. Jack will always be the Pumpkin King in my eyes.
Poor Jack Skellington. Stuck in a rut & what-not. ;-; No wonder he's dead, he must have died from boredom
Saint Bro’Dee Walker • Blue Illuminator i would too😐
Actually, he burned to death.
I haven't seen any comments about the gorgeous meaning behind this song. It's the sad powerful message of being unhappy with yourself.
I love your movies and your songs I watched you on Halloween and it was amazing I wanted I wanted to watch it again
OMG! When he said he swept the very bravest off their feet, I guess he scared Superman, Wonder Woman, even Batman to death.
Edward Ahlemeyer no but he scared your mum lol
Lmao
This was my favorite movie in my childhood I will play it over and over and over. Tim Burton is my idol 👻💀🎅
"And since I am dead I can take off my head, to recite Shakespirian quotations, no animal or man, can SCREAM as I can, with the fury of my re-ci-tations."👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🎃
Sang that perfectly love the movie soooo much
I too am tired of the same thing everyday
People tell me I used to know and recite every word of this movie.. Not just the lyrics but the actual dialogue.. I can't believe it didn't all stick
Same!! I watched this movie so much I basically knew the entire script! I'd literally watch it once and then maybe like halfway the next time before getting bored each morning!
AWESOME SONG!! LISTENED TO IT ABOUT A MILLION TIMES!!
i love this song, its one of my favorites
Oh theres an empty place in my bones
Ooosteoooopoooorooooosis
I love this song
Beautiful jack, long live the pumpkin king!🎃🎃🎃🎃
Jack's voice is disturbingly hot. Lol 😂
Blame Danny Elfman for turning everybody into necrophiles. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i love this movie and always will my baby goes to sleep to the songs
One of my favorite songs from the movie Tim Burton made good movies
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome movie, awesome soundtrack..forever Jack, the pumplin king...\/.
i love this song
When he says Charms O.o
Hello, mr unlucky
This movie brings back fond memories
It's the voice I'm in love with
IDK why but I always think of Tom Hiddleston when I hear this song...
Cette musique est si belle :'(
Danny Elfman, je t'aime :'(
I've always loved that Danny Elfman sings this himself. What an especially lovely vibrato!
I'm not sure who's singing the lyrics but he's an absolute genius too.
Who’s listening to this on Halloween 🎃 2017
Ella Rose me
2018
I'd like to hear Marilyn Manson sing this song. Would be amazing.
He has
kuroi mato No he didn't, he sang only This is Halloween
Kelvi Bulku eh ok then
Kelvi Bulku Correct, I believe this song was sung by The All-American Rejects.
Ricardo Quezada no thats "what's this"
beautiful
This is relatable
Why do I know EVERY lyric of this song?
Because this song is amazing
Is it just me or does Jack sound like the Phantom?
wooowww girl! you're not the only one! did u know i read somewhere in an online review of the movie they described jack's singing and looks as phantom like and Red Death! bang right on with the detail
One of my top favorites from the movie
@6LuverMusic
Yes , it is " To a guy in Kentucky " , he says this because Kentucky is known for a horse derbys .
Lucky is often a name given to one of the horses , so , in oppisite , Jack is Mr. Unlucky to a horse jockey .
my middle name means unlucky ._.
The Nightmare before Christmas came out a few years ago *facepalm*
one word. EPIC.
you are one of the few of the internet i actually respect, im not a hipster but i hate how people only know slenderman from that stupid "slender" game since its mainstream, and compare him to jack