Only many thousands? You're either extremely lucky, extremely poor or extremely old. Or now a days, extremely LGBTQ2+ABCDEFHIJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ1234567890×÷=/_[]@@$%^&*()-'":;,?`~\|{}€£¥₩°•●●□■♤♧☆▪︎¤《》¡¿.
In Hoovie's video he declined a new clutch after you told him it would be about $1500. After spending $10k, a $1500 clutch seems like a wise purchase, especially if Hoovie plans on selling it.
New clutch pilot pressure plate pilot and throwing bearing plus an custom clutch pedal adjuster on the mechanical clutch in my 1966 Corvette cost 1600 last year and it was a great deal. Yeah 1500 for a clutch in that new car is OK.
I can picture some Tony Montana-type character buying it just to beat the crap out of it fully intending on getting rid of it afterward. Probably purchased with coke money anyway.
Thanks Wizard, I have a 2015 Hellcat. I haven’t had any problems with it , but I do change my oil every 3k. It turned 9 yrs old in June, and it never gets old I love driving it.
@@yyz125 Makes UA-cam videos on cars and does a podcast. Ad views and sponsorship dollars can add up fast when you have as healthy of a viewcount as he does. He also did I believe 2 seasons of a TV show and hosts some stuff at Barrett-Jackson.
I could never understand people who neglect oil/filter changes as it’s so cheap compared to engine rebuilds,I’ve always done 3000mile oil changes on all of my sports cars and works vans which thankfully I can do myself,started driving at 17,55 now and never had an engine issue 😊
Leased vehicles or company vehicles. I'm not necessarily defending it, I'm just providing an explanation of why someone could be more or less indifferent.
For those of us watching Eric's I Do Cars channel, "forbidden glitter" is the magic phrase. Any sign of that when you pull the valve covers, and it's time to stop until you give the customer the bad news and have them make the informed decision on whether to go any further. When you have oil with suspended bits of metal run through an engine, it's a safe assumption that just about every moving part inside the engine will need repair or replacement. This is yet another reason why most shops prefer to just swap the long block and send the current one back as a core. From the looks of it, I'm kinda curious how the total bill is "only" $10k. Omega charges $175 an hour for labor, and Mopar parts for the engine alone will be several thousand dollars. You don't want to put in the cheapest camshaft and lifters you see on Temu there. An engine swap is probably doable in twenty to 25 hours, but a complete teardown and rebuild on top of putting the patient back together? 🤔🤔🤔
Not "ON TIME" as in the manual if you are going to drive it to the extreme all the time either. My dad was a mechanic (late 1920's -70's) and trained me and my two brothers, always reminding us that, "If we would drive it like it was about,to break, that it probably never would"! It was good advice but not always followed in the younger years.
No, it's the lifter dodge uses in the hemi. They almost all fail regardless of oil changes. The needle bearings in the lifter rollers fail and take out the cam and send metal all through the engine, destroying it. 20:25
I'm all for high tech, modernization, and ultra performance, but the more I watch of videos like this, the more I appreciate the "old fashioned" small block Chevy and straight 6's of all the manufacturers. Maybe I'm finally getting old....
I bought a 2015 RAM 1500 with the 5.7 HEMI and put 155,000 miles on it without any problems. I did put E3 plugs in at 100,000 miles and serviced the engine every 7,000 miles with Penzoil full synthetic oil. When I sold the truck the engine ran perfectly without any abnormal noises. When I bought the truck I worked for a RAM dealership. Over time I saw a number of HEMI's come in with the tick. If you have a HEMI, CHANGE THE OIL or you will see what you see in this video.
Hellcats have the upgraded oil pump - which is the upgraded part recommend for regular trucks. This issue is due to lack of maintenance: old oil, low oil level, revving it while the engine is cold and anything else in between. Not that Chrysler products are any good, but in this case the previous owner is to blame.
@@fersaccon It's kind of laughable when you say Chrysler products aren't any good when you see what they go through! P.S Ford Coyote engines have a rubber oil pump belt and have valve issues! Geez besides GM engines name another that have been junked or rebuilt anywhere near as much? The only reason GM engines are held in any amount of regard is the aftermarket support for them!
I have my LS3 powered Holden serviced every 7.5-8K kMs , fresh oil (top quality full synthetic ) fresh filter and a complete check of the car . The motor is silent, smooth and very willing . The engine is clean internally and a real joy to drive . Guys , do the servicing on your cars . Oil and filters are a damn sight cheaper than engines
LS3 is better than any hemi. im going to put one in my bmw. 5th gen camaro prices are rising bc people are recognizzing its greatness. and chevy SS (commodore) prices in the US are crazy. one of the least depreciated 10 year old cars you can buy. they are still near MSRP
True but fresh oil doesn't make any difference when you rev the shit out of the engine when it's stone cold, which is what the idiot who owned this car was obviously doing.
I don’t race my truck, but I do tow with it, thusly, is why I choose to change my oil every 3000 miles even though the manual suggests a much longer duration. As you can see in this video, a $60 oil change is cheaper than a full rebuild and inconvenience of having to rent another car while it’s being serviced.
Anyone out there thinking Tyler messed up, needs to watch his channel and look at the farm that he bought and what he has already done out there. He is not losing money.
What are you talking about the guy constantly loses money every single day and now he has a vacuum cleaner named April that moved in and is costing him a billion dollars😂😂😂
He is "the dumbest automotive channel on UA-cam", so how can anyone say he messed up when he admits to what his goal is 😂 This car will make a better series than that damn "tube of toothpaste in the door" Maserati that was never worth more than a trip to the crusher.
Well its not that straight forward where the money originates as saying from youtube or even how much the whole thing is in positive depending how you count it. He's got a lot riding on what happens with values of some bigger pieces he holds(financing works out if values go up, but leveraging works both ways). Car related channel ad buys from advertisers are down big with the general downturn. Anyhow its not that easy to tell how much of a squeeze there is from what they tell either or from selling cars. Lots of expensive spending though back to back the youtube income would've covered just a fraction of it, going through back to back real estate builds in a housing market thats been down too.
I REALLY doubt he's going to get away with $40K all-in. Maybe $45K. Wizard was just being nice so Hoovie would at least come back to the shop. And truth be told, I (and I'm sure he) would rather have bought a well-maintained 70K car with documentation rather than that heap. Surprised it ran as well as it did with all that damage.
actually even with timely oil changes theses hemis will have lifter failure . reason its the way the block is designed , the cam and lifters are oiled predominately by oil being slung of the crankshaft as it spins,. at idle it slings much less as well as not far enough to get oil on the cam lobes and lifter needle bearings . the cam is also much higher in the block making it even more difficult to receive adequate oiling, theres also a large oil galley pipe casting in the block which sits right below the cam this also blocks oil from being slung up on to the cam and lifters the other issue is the because of the high cam profile the lifters sit more horizontally rather then vertically any oil above the lifter falls away before reaching the needle bearings as opposed to a lower cam profile where the lifters sit more vertically . the main reason these will have lifter and cam damage is the engines design combined with HIGH IDLE TIMES. when these idle for long periods the cam and lifters suffer from starvation. and if you add in non synthetic oil in very cold climates the oil is much thicker and will contribute to the cranks ability to sling the oil up there. if you want to have no cam and lifter issues its simple , change your oil ,use synthetic oil, and dont let it idle for more then 20-30 min. but if you must all you have to do is race it up every 20 min or so even more if you want .this will get the rpms up and sling that oil up there and you'll never have a lifter issue . thanks for reading.
I just put 40000 thousand dollars in my 1958 Mercedes Benz I put all new factory stuff in it motor,clutch,radiator,thermostat,gas tank ,new fuel system and the interior looks amazing I normally wouldn’t put that money in a car but it was my grandfather’s and he took me everywhere in that car a lot of child hood memories I promised my grandfather I would never get rid of it . I love watching your show car wizard ROCK ON
I hear ya man! We have my father in law's '52 Jag XK120 coupe, he bought that car around 1962 and daily drove it for a good 13-14 years. It sat during restoration for another 45 years until the resto got finished after Pop passed in 2020. It is priceless, if anyone wants to put a dollar amount on it. Car Wizard's channel rocks, he tells it like it is!
Sourcing a new long block from Mopar Performance or other vendors would be a more cost-effective way to get this ride sorted out correctly. The metal mites overran the entire engine. Keep the oil & filter changed in the gen 3 hemis! I have 2 of them in my Chrysler 300C's, a 2014 w/5.7 and a new 2023 model w/6.4. No issues with "hemi tick" in either engine. Use a good high quality synthetic oil in them. Only "ticking" I hear is the injectors firing. That clutch is junk, replace it now "while you're in there." Great video, Wizard!
I joke that after I bought a RAM truck I have completed a mechanics course. These things are so poorly put together... and it is a 2017 with less than 90k miles, which isn't something you would expect for this age and mileage.
@HksF16 More Like: 🤡 👊 ⭕️ With the way the previous "owner" treated the car, and added unnecessary speaker holes into the front doors, they are indeed a certified clown.
@@MJB360 So I guess that you never had a ass kicking stereo system in your car, some people like a little more than what comes with the car. And those very expensive so called "premium" upgraded sound systems offered at the dealer cost more than a good sound quality aftermarket system.
Thanks for showing us all that it needs, nearly a full restoration. Makes for a great episode(s). Looking forward to seeing it go back together. Hope you will show us. Thanks.
Speaking of racing, even to give you an idea, pretty much all racing series do multiple oil changes throughout a race weekend, which gives you an idea of how to take care properly of a race engine.
I don't skip Mrs. Wizard's interior review, its interesting to see how interiors look after being used to varying degrees. One review was a eye opener for me, she reviewed a 2007(?) VW with 200K miles on it and the interior looked AWFUL. It made me appreciate my 2007 Honda Accord with 200K on it, which looked WAY better.
10:21 "This is not a 30 minute job, it's not a 500 dollar job, it's a thousands of dollar job..........but it gets sooooooo much worse" 14:13 "I think we need to look at the main bearings and rod bearings. I am sooo glad he made that decision because it. Gets. Even. WORSE" I'm dead 😂 😆
The cleanliness and condition of the interior tells you a lot about how well the drivetrain was maintained. I don’t know why people just can’t do the basic maintenance on their cars. I probably over do mine but it’s all cheap compared to a major repair. I have always done 3000 miles oil changes and 30,000 trans, coolant and rear end changes. That’s about every 3 years for me. I have never had a major problem on a car ever and I’m 65 so it’s been a lot of cars and trucks.
Incredible review Wizard. There is no doubt that whomever owned that vehicle previously probably drag raced it frequently or just lit it up everywhere they went. I wonder how many sets of tires the previous owner had to install on that thing before he got rid of it. That's crazy how bad the internal parts of that engine were. Gouges, scrapes, ridges, oh my.
The interior review is usually spoiled by Hoovie's videos when it's his car. I watch it on the cars I haven't already seen. Most viewers are watching the same content twice following both channels and we are happy to support both channels but we can only see the same thing so many times. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Don't take it personal Mrs Wizard, we appreciate all the camera work and effort we just have ADHD and low attention spans.
6:50 this is why I take care of my 21' R/T I have run it hard to see what it can do I don't abuse it. I also change the oil every 5,000. I had a 06' Magnum R/T and thought I had a dieing lifter. Other then all the sludge in heads everything was pristine. This thing I got used and I was changing the oil every 5,000 in it too. I knew that more frequent oil changes are a must for these Hemi's to last.
After I watched Hoovie’s Garbage I went online and researched the cost of the car.The Hellcats that are in pristine condition used usually averaged about 44-55 thousand dollars so if you buy one that’s clean you want to get a second opinion from a mechanic before you plop down that kind of loot!
Gee, a piece of crap on the outside is just as big a POC on the inside? What a surprise! For the nth time, Hoovie took a gamble and lost. Most times things really ARE what they seem.
Ok, folks please listen. Oil changes only DO so much with Hemis. These engines were designed with an inherent design flaw…the angle of the lifters plus the oil pump failing to give enough oil pressure at idle…well…this is why Hemis do what they do. BREAK
Exactly right. Chrysler engineers couldn’t leave well-enough alone, so they raised the cam tunnel and destroyed a perfectly good design. These engines are dog-shit from day one.
@@ChicagoRob2 And people keep buying them and then scream bloody murder when their engine grenades at 150k. It’s the same thing over and over, these engines were designed with a major flaw and nothing will change that. Why would anyone buy a truck that starves itself of oil at low RPMs
@@ChicagoRob2 - Agree with you 100%. UA-camr “Uncle Tonys Garage” made two videos about this flawed design several years ago. Shake my head when i see these cars on the road.
@@RomnysGonzalezYeah, saw Hoovies video about where it's been sitting on the lot for three months and they have it listed for less than they bought it for.
Wizard, was the vin ever registered as stolen? Almost seems like abuse you'd see on a stolen vehicle. I suppose you could have someone significantly delinquent just hammering on it till the repo man finds it. Really hard to imagine someone holding a 80k+ loan on a car and just beating it like that.
It happens quite a bit. The borrower figures their credit is screwed anyway, they don't have money for a new car, and they hide it, drive it, and neglect the heck out of it until the repo man finally catches up with them. I've seen quite a few repos that ended up scrapped because they were that torn up. That list includes high-end luxury SUVs and sports cars that were bought new. One memorable vehicle was a Cadillac Escalade that was bought new for $105,000. By the time they got it back, the right side was smashed in its whole length, it'd gone 30,000 miles with no maintenance, and the interior was trashed.
@@r3nko93 it was driven, never sat long. It had something to do with the #6 cylinder and heads and lifters. We didn’t take this to a backyard mechanic but to a dealership that warranted the work for a year.
@@markwagner4909 I’d trust a private shop over a dealership. I did a complete reseal on a c5 and dropped the entire powertrain out of it. Pulled the motor. Top and bottom reseal and it was $6k out the door for the customer
The lifter valley does not get proper lubrication and oil flow at idle THAT’S why they fail! THAT’A what causes the hemi tick! Lack oil changes will definitely cause that problem to happen faster but it’s not cause.
Some oils say good for 15K mi! Someone else can prove or disprove that interval, I'm sticking with 5K. I accidentely went 5800 on my last chg and felt very bad.
@@terrylessmann2274 Diesel trucks may go 10,000 miles or more on an oil change BUT when you have 5 or more gallons of oil in the engine, the oil last longer. My mustang Dark Horse has a 10 quart oil capacity so I suspect it will go a bit longer than older engines with a 5 or 6 quart capacity. Modern oil is better but you shouldn't exceed what the owners manual says. If you push the engine hard, you need to change it more often.
I leased my 2020 hellcat charger. I got it as soon as they came out with the widebody. Knowing that these engines get beat constantly, I knew I wasn’t going to buy used. Even when new the hemi tick was apparent, to the point that it sounded like a cam phaser from a Ford EcoBoost. The good old days were five grand down and $650 a month can get you a leased $90,000 car.
When he bought this car, Hoovie showed some film clips of a WW2 Navy Hellcat taking off from an aircraft carrier. Except... The planes shown were actually Grumman Avenger torpedo-bombers. Not the F6F Hellcat fighter that shot down more Japanese aircraft than any other. What hoovie bought has far more in common with a "bomber".
Hey Wizard, the Ford 7.3 "GODZILLA" gasser in the 2020+ super duty's also has a dry valley and you have to pull the heads on them too just to change a lifter.
Hoovie: Buy's $26k auction Hellcat. Spends $15k restoring it. Legit Street Cars: Buy's $25k auction Hellcat. Spends $50 on bolts (that he didn't need), and details the car. Drives it across country.
theres a luck factor. but the problem with Hoovie, scraplife, mat armstrong is they have so much money that they buy whatever they want from copart, and the videos make them all the money back. while legitstreetcars is more dilligent to find deals by doing price valuation, pass up on certain cars, bidding with his head and not his heart. 5 or so years ago every car on copart was a great deal. nowdays so many dealers and people from other countries are bidding on american cars that sometimes it just doesnt make sense.. you have to come up with a number and not go over it, but you will lose most cars that way so it takes patience and you cant get attached to a single listing.
I think based on my career in automotive diagnostics the amount you are charging on an engine that is trash is not out of line. A complete remanufacture of the engine is necessary. I had 2 careers one was an engine inspector for NASCAR in the 80's and I used to know everyone in the business. I did that for 10 years while getting my Commercial Instrument Pilot License. The VA Paid for that. After10 years of flying to every race every week or flying myself in my Cessna 310 I got a Job with an International Cargo Carrier and flew for them for 20 years as a Contract Pilot and I worked my way up to Captain and I was a well-educated 747 Pilot. Then I retired due to an old injury that cropped up from the Military. My early years were Military, but Scar tissue damage and a Fractured L-6 came back to haunt me bad. I had to cease everything and nothing the Doctors could do. However, that is a messed-up engine, and you are doing him right. Me I would replace the steering wheel. I am picky nice car and a worn-out steering wheel. Keep up the good work you and your wife are very good people and the most Honest company out there.
The VA Paid for that - No Sir, you paid for that, and thank you for your service. The VA payments is the minimum that you, and many others, are due for years of hard work, long hours, and all the abuse and neglect your body suffered while you served our country.
Can you show this car when it is done? I would love to hear it run and see how it looks after the transformation? I do know that the 5.7 Hemi in my daughters Jeep had the same exact lifter failure and cam wipe out. Close to 4 grand in work! I have also heard that these Hemi's do not like to sit and idle for long periods of time. I suppose at idle oil pressure is obviously lower and the circulation is poor to lots of the parts. Even with proper oil change intervals these are still big problems, but closer to 100k miles...
@@BA-xj9ew Ditto. It's nice that they are trying to change things up, I really don't want to see messy interiors of cars. Hope they stop that portion of the videos soon.
They aren't especially informative. If she pointed out the different ergonomic choices various manufacturers made, it would be somewhat useful, but just pointing at the touchscreen and saying "There's the touchscreen" communicates nothing.
I completely disagree with this, The interior is an important part of the car, and it is interesting to see how they wear over time. You spend ALL of your time with a car in the interior and cars that have prematurely worn interiors are not fun to spend time in. VERY short sided opinions here.
11:14 not surprising. I saw a teardown of one of these engines. And I'm not sure exactly why it's there but there is a brace that runs the entire length of the engine that sits between the crank and camshaft. And the way the cam and lifters get oiled on these push rod V8s is by the crank throwing oil. But with that brace in the way the cam and lifters aren't getting anywhere near the oil they need. The previous owner discovered the problem that every single one of these Hemis has. It just came up a lot faster because they drove it like they stole it every single day. A college student on a full ride would be my bet.
As a young man, I made the mistake of following really nice rear ends and that cost me many thousands of dollars. You live and hopefully learn!
Only many thousands? You're either extremely lucky, extremely poor or extremely old. Or now a days, extremely LGBTQ2+ABCDEFHIJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ1234567890×÷=/_[]@@$%^&*()-'":;,?`~\|{}€£¥₩°•●●□■♤♧☆▪︎¤《》¡¿.
its a good life haha
You and me brother!
In Hoovie's video he declined a new clutch after you told him it would be about $1500. After spending $10k, a $1500 clutch seems like a wise purchase, especially if Hoovie plans on selling it.
New clutch pilot pressure plate pilot and throwing bearing plus an custom clutch pedal adjuster on the mechanical clutch in my 1966 Corvette cost 1600 last year and it was a great deal. Yeah 1500 for a clutch in that new car is OK.
hoovie sells everything, of course he's going to sell it, hypes up his buys and sells them
This was Schroedinger's Hellcat. Before you opened it up, it was both alive and dead.
Hoovie needs to get out of the used car business until he becomes a mechanic 😂
It's an easy job and if there is life left on the clutch especially when going to flip it, money wasted
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*A HellCat from Florida...*
*...what could go wrong?*
Someone used all their credit to buy that showoff mobile.... Or drug money.
Poor car
I can picture some Tony Montana-type character buying it just to beat the crap out of it fully intending on getting rid of it afterward. Probably purchased with coke money anyway.
Hoovie said it had 4 accidents. Surprised it still drove.
The condition of the car is in the same condition as the US and unfortunately many of its inhabitants are .... Greetings from a North European.
@@trondsimonsen4025cringe
Cudos to Mrs. Wizard for her bravery for checking out the scumterior.
Lots of hand sanitizer!
Thanks Wizard, I have a 2015 Hellcat. I haven’t had any problems with it , but I do change my oil every 3k. It turned 9 yrs old in June, and it never gets old I love driving it.
That OCI is perfect. I'd do the transmission and differential each 20k miles
Why did owner of this car not take care of it. Why invest $100,000 and do zero maintenance
Crazy to think 2015 is 9 years old lol.
Glad to see nobody has turned it into their own overnight.
@@catfisher420 thank God I have a garage !!
$10K for all those parts and labor? That really is a deal. We need more Wizards out there.
I think that is a Hoovie discount, but if not, then you are right!
Especially as you know it will be assembled properly with a decent warranty from Omega.
That's what I said ten grand that's it I was thinking twenty or so anyway as far as it had to be torn down hell scatter cat lol
Hoovie spends $$$ gotta discount those kind of customers!
Hoovie is bankrolling Wizards shop 😂
What does hoodie do for a living?
@@yyz125 Hoovie wastes money and makes videos that prove how big an idiot he is.
@yyz125 youtube, before that had a used car lot, before that sold cars
@@yyz125 Makes UA-cam videos on cars and does a podcast. Ad views and sponsorship dollars can add up fast when you have as healthy of a viewcount as he does. He also did I believe 2 seasons of a TV show and hosts some stuff at Barrett-Jackson.
@@Ltdeathsquid MotorTrend is showing reruns of Hoovie and the Wizard on my local cable HTC, South Carolina.
I could never understand people who neglect oil/filter changes as it’s so cheap compared to engine rebuilds,I’ve always done 3000mile oil changes on all of my sports cars and works vans which thankfully I can do myself,started driving at 17,55 now and never had an engine issue 😊
That will not do the trick when engines are this flawed..it’s mostly a delay on the inevitable
Trans and diff?
Neglecting oil changes will just expedite the inevitable. The engine has cam/lifter oil starvation issues at low rpm.
Leased vehicles or company vehicles. I'm not necessarily defending it, I'm just providing an explanation of why someone could be more or less indifferent.
Previous owner figured they'll probably be in prison next year. Why change the oil?
lmfao BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! 😂
IT JUST GETS WORSE 😂
That was really fascinating to see just how damaged an engine can be internally and still appear to be running pretty well. A ticking time bomb.
The 70K miles is probably equivalent to 70K DRAGSTRIP miles..
70k takeover donut miles.
70k running from the cops miles.
@@billzkustomzIn the middle of intersections.
@@billzkustomz🦧
more like highspeed police chases
For those of us watching Eric's I Do Cars channel, "forbidden glitter" is the magic phrase. Any sign of that when you pull the valve covers, and it's time to stop until you give the customer the bad news and have them make the informed decision on whether to go any further.
When you have oil with suspended bits of metal run through an engine, it's a safe assumption that just about every moving part inside the engine will need repair or replacement.
This is yet another reason why most shops prefer to just swap the long block and send the current one back as a core.
From the looks of it, I'm kinda curious how the total bill is "only" $10k. Omega charges $175 an hour for labor, and Mopar parts for the engine alone will be several thousand dollars. You don't want to put in the cheapest camshaft and lifters you see on Temu there. An engine swap is probably doable in twenty to 25 hours, but a complete teardown and rebuild on top of putting the patient back together? 🤔🤔🤔
....some kind of paste...
@@_BAD_MERC_ anti seize
That engine was probably 1 or 2 more trips down the drag strip away from going kaboom and ending up on Eric's channel
hes running out the office when he sees that bill
And is a mopar, so cash only. No credit.
Or he agrees to give the car to Wizard again.
I bet he passes out
The disassembled Car Front looks like Wall-E😅
There's a lesson in this that's easy to Understand....CHANGE Your OIL ON TIME DONT WAIT....excellent vid as always💯
And it's so incredibly cheap!
Not "ON TIME" as in the manual if you are going to drive it to the extreme all the time either. My dad was a mechanic (late 1920's -70's) and trained me and my two brothers, always reminding us that, "If we would drive it like it was about,to break, that it probably never would"! It was good advice but not always followed in the younger years.
No, it's the lifter dodge uses in the hemi. They almost all fail regardless of oil changes. The needle bearings in the lifter rollers fail and take out the cam and send metal all through the engine, destroying it. 20:25
This will not solve these flaws in the head components, only delay the results and mitigate them at best
Perfect service from day one won't save you from this POS engine design. It'll still fail around 100-125K regardless
I'm all for high tech, modernization, and ultra performance, but the more I watch of videos like this, the more I appreciate the "old fashioned" small block Chevy and straight 6's of all the manufacturers. Maybe I'm finally getting old....
It's the difference between 150hp and 700hp. Give and take
@@JDJD-mw9rrjust bragging rights, you can’t use all that power unless you race it. Most aren’t going to race their $100K money pit.
Don’t forget the hellaphant pulley, some upgraded injectors, and bigger pumps so he can run the corn 🌽
Itll never be Road Block.
@@CarWizard I’ve got a sawzall and enough questionable choice making ability it could be close
When you get cars like this you want to upgrade them not just fix them and charge a hefty bill to pay for a art painting 🎨 🖌️ @@CarWizard
I would never skip over Ms. wizard 😊
I bought a 2015 RAM 1500 with the 5.7 HEMI and put 155,000 miles on it without any problems. I did put E3 plugs in at 100,000 miles and serviced the engine every 7,000 miles with Penzoil full synthetic oil. When I sold the truck the engine ran perfectly without any abnormal noises. When I bought the truck I worked for a RAM dealership. Over time I saw a number of HEMI's come in with the tick. If you have a HEMI, CHANGE THE OIL or you will see what you see in this video.
I change mine every 2k miles.
Hemis hate idle, upgrade the oil pump and you won’t ever have an issue with lifters. Apparently at idle they don’t get enough oil
Hellcats have the upgraded oil pump - which is the upgraded part recommend for regular trucks. This issue is due to lack of maintenance: old oil, low oil level, revving it while the engine is cold and anything else in between. Not that Chrysler products are any good, but in this case the previous owner is to blame.
I always try to go right away. Do you have any suggestions for an upgraded oil pump?
@@fersacconagh good to know, maintenance is key yet it gets so neglected
@@fersaccon It's kind of laughable when you say Chrysler products aren't any good when you see what they go through! P.S Ford Coyote engines have a rubber oil pump belt and have valve issues! Geez besides GM engines name another that have been junked or rebuilt anywhere near as much? The only reason GM engines are held in any amount of regard is the aftermarket support for them!
That is correct for the early 3rd hemis but these don't have that problem it was driven really hard
I have my LS3 powered Holden serviced every 7.5-8K kMs , fresh oil (top quality full synthetic ) fresh filter and a complete check of the car . The motor is silent, smooth and very willing . The engine is clean internally and a real joy to drive . Guys , do the servicing on your cars . Oil and filters are a damn sight cheaper than engines
LS3 is better than any hemi. im going to put one in my bmw. 5th gen camaro prices are rising bc people are recognizzing its greatness. and chevy SS (commodore) prices in the US are crazy. one of the least depreciated 10 year old cars you can buy. they are still near MSRP
True but fresh oil doesn't make any difference when you rev the shit out of the engine when it's stone cold, which is what the idiot who owned this car was obviously doing.
I don’t race my truck, but I do tow with it, thusly, is why I choose to change my oil every 3000 miles even though the manual suggests a much longer duration.
As you can see in this video, a $60 oil change is cheaper than a full rebuild and inconvenience of having to rent another car while it’s being serviced.
The interior reviews are great! Keep up the good work guys!
Anyone out there thinking Tyler messed up, needs to watch his channel and look at the farm that he bought and what he has already done out there. He is not losing money.
Even at best, he's breaking even with the video content he's getting from it
@@alexpetree2038Just remember all his repair expenses are tax write offs.
What are you talking about the guy constantly loses money every single day and now he has a vacuum cleaner named April that moved in and is costing him a billion dollars😂😂😂
He is "the dumbest automotive channel on UA-cam", so how can anyone say he messed up when he admits to what his goal is 😂
This car will make a better series than that damn "tube of toothpaste in the door" Maserati that was never worth more than a trip to the crusher.
Well its not that straight forward where the money originates as saying from youtube or even how much the whole thing is in positive depending how you count it. He's got a lot riding on what happens with values of some bigger pieces he holds(financing works out if values go up, but leveraging works both ways).
Car related channel ad buys from advertisers are down big with the general downturn.
Anyhow its not that easy to tell how much of a squeeze there is from what they tell either or from selling cars. Lots of expensive spending though back to back the youtube income would've covered just a fraction of it, going through back to back real estate builds in a housing market thats been down too.
I laughed out loud when Mrs. Wizard said, "But isn't it built strong?" It's a Stellantis product, they're only related to quality by marriage.
Kuebby, no it’s not Stellantis, it’s Fiat lol. Stellantis got into the game in 2021. And yes they have made even a bigger mess of things than Fiat
@@pops55650 Actually, this still has DaimlerChrysler written all over it. The overall car is Daimler engineered, from 2008.
"And as you can see, the tires are bald. On a Hellcat. Imagine that."
Wizard, your dry humor goes unappreciated in my opinion.
Under 40 grand and you got a brand new engine It's worth it.
I think for 25 grand you can get the demon 170 engine
I REALLY doubt he's going to get away with $40K all-in. Maybe $45K. Wizard was just being nice so Hoovie would at least come back to the shop. And truth be told, I (and I'm sure he) would rather have bought a well-maintained 70K car with documentation rather than that heap. Surprised it ran as well as it did with all that damage.
Junk engine, they are blowing up @@icemanddr
@@icemanddr and for 35K you can get a 1000hp Heliphant which is way better than a Demon motor.
@@BigJoe5.0 no they arent. Maybe you blew up your credit Score 392, but most people didnt. Especially the Demon Motors.
actually even with timely oil changes theses hemis will have lifter failure . reason its the way the block is designed , the cam and lifters are oiled predominately by oil being slung of the crankshaft as it spins,. at idle it slings much less as well as not far enough to get oil on the cam lobes and lifter needle bearings . the cam is also much higher in the block making it even more difficult to receive adequate oiling, theres also a large oil galley pipe casting in the block which sits right below the cam this also blocks oil from being slung up on to the cam and lifters the other issue is the because of the high cam profile the lifters sit more horizontally rather then vertically any oil above the lifter falls away before reaching the needle bearings as opposed to a lower cam profile where the lifters sit more vertically . the main reason these will have lifter and cam damage is the engines design combined with HIGH IDLE TIMES. when these idle for long periods the cam and lifters suffer from starvation. and if you add in non synthetic oil in very cold climates the oil is much thicker and will contribute to the cranks ability to sling the oil up there. if you want to have no cam and lifter issues its simple , change your oil ,use synthetic oil, and dont let it idle for more then 20-30 min. but if you must all you have to do is race it up every 20 min or so even more if you want .this will get the rpms up and sling that oil up there and you'll never have a lifter issue . thanks for reading.
Have you heard of anyone adding an oil line to overcome this ? Possible? Thanks
I just put 40000 thousand dollars in my 1958 Mercedes Benz I put all new factory stuff in it motor,clutch,radiator,thermostat,gas tank ,new fuel system and the interior looks amazing I normally wouldn’t put that money in a car but it was my grandfather’s and he took me everywhere in that car a lot of child hood memories I promised my grandfather I would never get rid of it . I love watching your show car wizard ROCK ON
I hear ya man! We have my father in law's '52 Jag XK120 coupe, he bought that car around 1962 and daily drove it for a good 13-14 years. It sat during restoration for another 45 years until the resto got finished after Pop passed in 2020. It is priceless, if anyone wants to put a dollar amount on it.
Car Wizard's channel rocks, he tells it like it is!
Hope you can give it to your grandkids 😊
yeah but that's a 1958 Mercedes a lot of expensive parts and a lot fewer them than there are beat up hellcats !
@@LaurentiusTriarius well I’m single with no kids so I’ll have to make a will for it lol ☺️
I have watched every interior review that mrs. W has done. And i will do so in the future. I love the teamwork and she does a great job.
I know the former owner of this rig. He’s currently in prison.
Damn
I'm sure most owners of these cars are in custody.
Wow. Complete shocker there.
I guess my comment makes even more sense now 😂
@@Yopsii8670😈😈😈
I’ve heard that in the hemi, that if the idle is tuned up to 850rpm, then the lifters will be properly lubed and not be a problem
I like how calm & cool you are just what we want,someone that does get worked up over anything.
I love the interior reviews! Tell Mrs Wizard to keep up the good work!
Love the interior tours! Keep it going mrs. Wizard!
Your fuel cap joke had me cracking up.
Sourcing a new long block from Mopar Performance or other vendors would be a more cost-effective way to get this ride sorted out correctly. The metal mites overran the entire engine.
Keep the oil & filter changed in the gen 3 hemis! I have 2 of them in my Chrysler 300C's, a 2014 w/5.7 and a new 2023 model w/6.4. No issues with "hemi tick" in either engine. Use a good high quality synthetic oil in them. Only "ticking" I hear is the injectors firing.
That clutch is junk, replace it now "while you're in there." Great video, Wizard!
What do you know? A Dodge that is trash? Wouldn't have guessed 😂😂
Its not trash, its been brutally abused.
I joke that after I bought a RAM truck I have completed a mechanics course. These things are so poorly put together... and it is a 2017 with less than 90k miles, which isn't something you would expect for this age and mileage.
Lol
Some people are messed up. Always enjoy the ENTIRE video.
I had a guy bring me a BOBCAT skid steer with a bad engine. It was running but 1 rod did NOT even have a rod bearing. KNOCK< KNOCK.
Who's there?
Wrong kind of cat there pal.
Since you guys tearing it apart the motor put a high volume oil pump and motor it will help solve the low pressure and flow at low RPM.
With the wear on the top of the steering wheel, you can tell exactly how the dude drove it.
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With the way the previous "owner" treated the car, and added unnecessary speaker holes into the front doors, they are indeed a certified clown.
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@@MJB360 So I guess that you never had a ass kicking stereo system in your car, some people like a little more than what comes with the car. And those very expensive so called "premium" upgraded sound systems offered at the dealer cost more than a good sound quality aftermarket system.
Thanks for showing us all that it needs, nearly a full restoration. Makes for a great episode(s). Looking forward to seeing it go back together. Hope you will show us. Thanks.
Good thing Hoovie has all that money. He's so rich, nothing matters to him. Must be nice. 🎉🎉
Speaking of racing, even to give you an idea, pretty much all racing series do multiple oil changes throughout a race weekend, which gives you an idea of how to take care properly of a race engine.
I don't skip Mrs. Wizard's interior review, its interesting to see how interiors look after being used to varying degrees. One review was a eye opener for me, she reviewed a 2007(?) VW with 200K miles on it and the interior looked AWFUL. It made me appreciate my 2007 Honda Accord with 200K on it, which looked WAY better.
10:21 "This is not a 30 minute job, it's not a 500 dollar job, it's a thousands of dollar job..........but it gets sooooooo much worse" 14:13 "I think we need to look at the main bearings and rod bearings. I am sooo glad he made that decision because it. Gets. Even. WORSE" I'm dead 😂 😆
Those rod bearings wore out faster than ones on a BMW E60 M5!
The cleanliness and condition of the interior tells you a lot about how well the drivetrain was maintained. I don’t know why people just can’t do the basic maintenance on their cars. I probably over do mine but it’s all cheap compared to a major repair. I have always done 3000 miles oil changes and 30,000 trans, coolant and rear end changes. That’s about every 3 years for me. I have never had a major problem on a car ever and I’m 65 so it’s been a lot of cars and trucks.
Everybody leave the lady with the interior alone. Shes very sweet, informative and because of her, we have car wizard.
She's his Mum?
@@jamesplotkin4674No… she was the one who encouraged him to do these videos and coached him up to be more polished.
@@jamesplotkin4674she does all the video work for wizard. Shes the brains of the operations for this channel
Incredible review Wizard. There is no doubt that whomever owned that vehicle previously probably drag raced it frequently or just lit it up everywhere they went. I wonder how many sets of tires the previous owner had to install on that thing before he got rid of it. That's crazy how bad the internal parts of that engine were. Gouges, scrapes, ridges, oh my.
Heres a quick fix i do for blown motors. Full coverage insurance and a fuel leak
Respect Mrs. Wizard. She adds value to the channel, and she’s cute.
The interior review is usually spoiled by Hoovie's videos when it's his car. I watch it on the cars I haven't already seen. Most viewers are watching the same content twice following both channels and we are happy to support both channels but we can only see the same thing so many times. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Don't take it personal Mrs Wizard, we appreciate all the camera work and effort we just have ADHD and low attention spans.
Kudos to the dude who's putting that thing back together, man!!! Amazing skill 👏
For some reason that torn apart front end reminded me of Christine 😂
Car came back!
6:50 this is why I take care of my 21' R/T I have run it hard to see what it can do I don't abuse it. I also change the oil every 5,000. I had a 06' Magnum R/T and thought I had a dieing lifter. Other then all the sludge in heads everything was pristine. This thing I got used and I was changing the oil every 5,000 in it too. I knew that more frequent oil changes are a must for these Hemi's to last.
Worth it. Saw a video with a Guy who wasted $80k on a R8... after purchasing it for like $160k. 🤦🏾♂🤷🏾♂🫡
Title of the video?
Good on ya for not throwing this one away.
After I watched Hoovie’s Garbage I went online and researched the cost of the car.The Hellcats that are in pristine condition used usually averaged about 44-55 thousand dollars so if you buy one that’s clean you want to get a second opinion from a mechanic before you plop down that kind of loot!
There's a widebody nearby in my town going for $41K.
Don't forget, this one has been in 4 accidents.
@@Tripp426 How could one forget?? 😂😂
Love how organized your shop and workers are
Gee, a piece of crap on the outside is just as big a POC on the inside? What a surprise! For the nth time, Hoovie took a gamble and lost. Most times things really ARE what they seem.
They're aren't pieces of crap if they're maintained
@@DylanL69 RIP English.
Don't these things always look like crap?
Don't worry, he's loaded.
@@DylanL69 What do you mean? Are the lifters and oil supply system well designed and well made or not?
Mrs Wizard is well versed in auto tech almost always. These Hellcats have the battery in the back. ;)
Ok, folks please listen. Oil changes only DO so much with Hemis. These engines were designed with an inherent design flaw…the angle of the lifters plus the oil pump failing to give enough oil pressure at idle…well…this is why Hemis do what they do. BREAK
Exactly right. Chrysler engineers couldn’t leave well-enough alone, so they raised the cam tunnel and destroyed a perfectly good design. These engines are dog-shit from day one.
@@ChicagoRob2 And people keep buying them and then scream bloody murder when their engine grenades at 150k. It’s the same thing over and over, these engines were designed with a major flaw and nothing will change that. Why would anyone buy a truck that starves itself of oil at low RPMs
@@ChicagoRob2 - Agree with you 100%. UA-camr “Uncle Tonys Garage” made two videos about this flawed design several years ago. Shake my head when i see these cars on the road.
@@Slotcarking ive heard the same the same "hemi tick" on the V6 DOHC engines. why would that be?
@@ibrahimelmi210 Same crappy design as the V8 minus 2 cylinders.
Car Wizard love your Channel & Hoovies.
Good call Daniel! I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cam bearings. I knew it did not stop there, that metal went somewhere!
Poor guy sold his cybertruck because he thought he'd lose money and then ended up with this lol
He would be losing money if he kept that Cybertruck
@@RomnysGonzalezYeah, saw Hoovies video about where it's been sitting on the lot for three months and they have it listed for less than they bought it for.
poor guy? he sold the cybertruck at the right time with money on top
Poor guy? Losing money has made him rich.
I hope the owner has not been through an expensive divorce.
Great explanation of the teardown and problems found!
The Hell Cat came close to being a Dead Cat many times in its hard life. Hopefully, this car will be treated better for the remainder of its life.
It has 9 lives, it will be fine...
@@topfloorstudio2684 Maybe not with Hoovie driving it....some pretty questionable decisions could be made.
Ref: Porsche 911 Rally "light off roading"
Any bets on whether there will be metal flakes in the transmission fluid
Wizard, was the vin ever registered as stolen?
Almost seems like abuse you'd see on a stolen vehicle. I suppose you could have someone significantly delinquent just hammering on it till the repo man finds it.
Really hard to imagine someone holding a 80k+ loan on a car and just beating it like that.
It happens quite a bit. The borrower figures their credit is screwed anyway, they don't have money for a new car, and they hide it, drive it, and neglect the heck out of it until the repo man finally catches up with them. I've seen quite a few repos that ended up scrapped because they were that torn up. That list includes high-end luxury SUVs and sports cars that were bought new. One memorable vehicle was a Cadillac Escalade that was bought new for $105,000. By the time they got it back, the right side was smashed in its whole length, it'd gone 30,000 miles with no maintenance, and the interior was trashed.
With the front end torn off but the headlights left in...why am I reminded so much of a Checker Marathon?
We had to have our lifters on our 2007 C6 with 25,000 miles. It cost a little over $12k to repair. We had it fixed and sold it.
You got ripped off at 12k. And when they sit for too long. Lifters fail and won’t pump up
@@r3nko93 it was driven, never sat long. It had something to do with the #6 cylinder and heads and lifters. We didn’t take this to a backyard mechanic but to a dealership that warranted the work for a year.
@@markwagner4909 I’d trust a private shop over a dealership. I did a complete reseal on a c5 and dropped the entire powertrain out of it. Pulled the motor. Top and bottom reseal and it was $6k out the door for the customer
@@markwagner4909that explains the price
As a owner of a 5.7 hemi 300s, its important to get the oil changed often and don't let the car idle much either
These newer Challenger's need a lot of repairs most of the time.
I had 4,no repairs outside of oil changes.Cars last pretty much how you treat them.
BS
The lifter valley does not get proper lubrication and oil flow at idle THAT’S why they fail! THAT’A what causes the hemi tick! Lack oil changes will definitely cause that problem to happen faster but it’s not cause.
Alex from Legit Street Cars also just got a Hellcat albeit a charger
His was in better condition and he does all the work so I’d say he got a better deal
@@JGL98 absolutely got a better deal. Makes Hoovies purchase look like the dumbest one on UA-cam 😆
I’m sure this car had very extended oil changes! Never go beyond 5k miles! It’s just not worth it!
Some oils say good for 15K mi! Someone else can prove or disprove that interval, I'm sticking with 5K. I accidentely went 5800 on my last chg and felt very bad.
@@terrylessmann2274 Diesel trucks may go 10,000 miles or more on an oil change BUT when you have 5 or more gallons of oil in the engine, the oil last longer. My mustang Dark Horse has a 10 quart oil capacity so I suspect it will go a bit longer than older engines with a 5 or 6 quart capacity. Modern oil is better but you shouldn't exceed what the owners manual says. If you push the engine hard, you need to change it more often.
Exactly. While not in the same league as a Hellcat I’m not going to chance it on my WRX as FA20’s are known to go kaboom too.
2 videos on the same car, from 2 different You Tube Type people. PURE GENUIS i Say.
And it was running great even with all the problems
I leased my 2020 hellcat charger. I got it as soon as they came out with the widebody. Knowing that these engines get beat constantly, I knew I wasn’t going to buy used. Even when new the hemi tick was apparent, to the point that it sounded like a cam phaser from a Ford EcoBoost. The good old days were five grand down and $650 a month can get you a leased $90,000 car.
Anyone skipping Mrs. Wizard's interior review is missing out on some hilarious commentary. :)
Drill a hole through the front to get the camshaft out. Sounds like Mopar
You buy an expensive car then have zero money to maintain it.
Car Wiz is just amazing! He NEVER makes ANY mistakes 😁
"Oil is cheap. Engines are expensive". Scotty Kilmer™
Scotty's voice is so grating, I no longer watch his videos. He's much too loud for my liking.
@@johncampbell3979 Fun Fact : The volume control exists. Peace and love
Lmao did you just quote Scotty Kilmer?
When he bought this car, Hoovie showed some film clips of a WW2 Navy Hellcat taking off from an aircraft carrier. Except... The planes shown were actually Grumman Avenger torpedo-bombers. Not the F6F Hellcat fighter that shot down more Japanese aircraft than any other. What hoovie bought has far more in common with a "bomber".
6:32 good husband
Oh yeah? 14:53
A Hellcat that has been carefully reassembled by the Wizard? That might actually be better than new.
At this point I would just rebuild the engine completely
nope, car thats been in 4 accidents isn't worthy of that expense
Hey Wizard, the Ford 7.3 "GODZILLA" gasser in the 2020+ super duty's also has a dry valley and you have to pull the heads on them too just to change a lifter.
After seeing this car I just can't help but think that a fool and his money is soon parted. 26,000.00 dollars now that's crazy.
He’ll 36k in on the car, they’re going for 55-70 easy. Easy flip
Hoovie: Buy's $26k auction Hellcat. Spends $15k restoring it.
Legit Street Cars: Buy's $25k auction Hellcat. Spends $50 on bolts (that he didn't need), and details the car. Drives it across country.
Because it was a theft recovery... That's why Alex got it so cheap. same as the 4 Accidents on the vin on Tyler's. both cheap but different owners
Also Alex’s car was at least somewhat maintained as well. Also wasn’t as abused as Hoovie’s Challenger.
theres a luck factor. but the problem with Hoovie, scraplife, mat armstrong is they have so much money that they buy whatever they want from copart, and the videos make them all the money back. while legitstreetcars is more dilligent to find deals by doing price valuation, pass up on certain cars, bidding with his head and not his heart. 5 or so years ago every car on copart was a great deal. nowdays so many dealers and people from other countries are bidding on american cars that sometimes it just doesnt make sense.. you have to come up with a number and not go over it, but you will lose most cars that way so it takes patience and you cant get attached to a single listing.
That deep breathe at the end took me out😂😂😂😂
I think based on my career in automotive diagnostics the amount you are charging on an engine that is trash is not out of line. A complete remanufacture of the engine is necessary. I had 2 careers one was an engine inspector for NASCAR in the 80's and I used to know everyone in the business. I did that for 10 years while getting my Commercial Instrument Pilot License. The VA Paid for that. After10 years of flying to every race every week or flying myself in my Cessna 310 I got a Job with an International Cargo Carrier and flew for them for 20 years as a Contract Pilot and I worked my way up to Captain and I was a well-educated 747 Pilot. Then I retired due to an old injury that cropped up from the Military. My early years were Military, but Scar tissue damage and a Fractured L-6 came back to haunt me bad. I had to cease everything and nothing the Doctors could do. However, that is a messed-up engine, and you are doing him right. Me I would replace the steering wheel. I am picky nice car and a worn-out steering wheel. Keep up the good work you and your wife are very good people and the most Honest company out there.
The VA Paid for that - No Sir, you paid for that, and thank you for your service. The VA payments is the minimum that you, and many others, are due for years of hard work, long hours, and all the abuse and neglect your body suffered while you served our country.
@@Jeslik Thank you for your kind comment.
Challengers and Chargers were NOT available in Pearl White, it was a straight two step ( base coat, clear coat) white called Whute Knuckle.
White knuckle clear coat actually
@@fishgaming8599 I did mention it was clear coat. ALL modern, mass produced vehicles are clear coated.
Ivory White Tri-Coat Pearl, yes they were. And it’s rare to see one.
@@lylereinier4989 Hoovies' Challenger is not pearl white.
Yall better not be skipping over the mrs's part or the Wizard be casting fire bolt on ya! :P
100% of the time. IDK why, but I really dislike her segments.
Always have, always will.
Sponsor Block has it listed as "filler".
@@tim3172 seems generous
Can you show this car when it is done? I would love to hear it run and see how it looks after the transformation? I do know that the 5.7 Hemi in my daughters Jeep had the same exact lifter failure and cam wipe out. Close to 4 grand in work! I have also heard that these Hemi's do not like to sit and idle for long periods of time. I suppose at idle oil pressure is obviously lower and the circulation is poor to lots of the parts. Even with proper oil change intervals these are still big problems, but closer to 100k miles...
If people are skipping the interior reviews perhaps that would be telling you something, doesnt take a wizard to figure it out............
I always skip the interior review.
I mean, it’s a Dodge, what is there really to see?
@@BA-xj9ew Ditto. It's nice that they are trying to change things up, I really don't want to see messy interiors of cars. Hope they stop that portion of the videos soon.
They aren't especially informative. If she pointed out the different ergonomic choices various manufacturers made, it would be somewhat useful, but just pointing at the touchscreen and saying "There's the touchscreen" communicates nothing.
I completely disagree with this, The interior is an important part of the car, and it is interesting to see how they wear over time. You spend ALL of your time with a car in the interior and cars that have prematurely worn interiors are not fun to spend time in. VERY short sided opinions here.
11:14 not surprising. I saw a teardown of one of these engines. And I'm not sure exactly why it's there but there is a brace that runs the entire length of the engine that sits between the crank and camshaft. And the way the cam and lifters get oiled on these push rod V8s is by the crank throwing oil. But with that brace in the way the cam and lifters aren't getting anywhere near the oil they need. The previous owner discovered the problem that every single one of these Hemis has. It just came up a lot faster because they drove it like they stole it every single day. A college student on a full ride would be my bet.