Great vid jacob . Im going to change my crossover point on my sub tomarrow and see what it does .Thank you for this video. keep these great vids coming.
Whether you still use this radio or not, you should always use time alignment if given the opportunity. I have this radio and the time alignment that is built in works very well. If you program it right(quite easy), you wont have an instance where you aren't sure if it worked or not; it is a noticeable difference. I was quite surprised how much it changed the sound in my little car. Figured that it mostly worked for something larger, like an S.U.V.
My Erisin Android HU has built-in subwoofer gain control. If I set it to 0, I have to set my Alpine amp (for my subwoofer) gain high to get the desired bass and volume. I set at 75% subwoofer gain setting on my Erisin HU and Alpine amp gain around 10-11 o'clock position, just perfect for my listening volume preference (small hatchback car).
I'm going to be installing my first amp/sub hopefully soon. This one was a big question in my head thanks. I also want to know how to set gains/tune the amp/ subs correctly and see you answer that in other videos. Thanks for all your knowledge.
I got my LPF at 50hz on my pioneer. I don’t like the sound of anything above 45ish anyway. & I only play 30-40hz music. Keep my HPF front / rear at 125hz so I get zero bass on my doors. Like my doors screaming and my 12’s slapping…lol. Great video. Cheers from, Ohio..
@@JacobViral2 125hz hpf is not zero bass. You must have hpf jacked up on amplifiers because 125hz certainly allows bass through unless your doors or enclosures arent sealed up much
I use sub level at +6 to get 5v preout to the amp. Less noise in your system with higher preout voltage. Other than that all my settings are pretty much flat.
@@JacobViral2 if you dont believe me you can try it yourself. Get a multimeter and set it to ACV. Then play a 40 or 50 hz tone (i use -5 because i listen to rebassed/decaf songs) you can use 0 db to guarantee you'll never clip but if you only listen to radio songs or iTunes/pandora songs you could use a -15 to a -10 db tone. Then get the R or L RCA cable from your amp and put the negative lead on the outer shield of the rca and put the positive on the inner nipple of the rca cable. (You use pos n neg to test only 1 of the RCA from your amp. During this time your sub will not be playing due to you have an rca disconnected. (Also have to have your volume knob at 62 to get the full 5v) this is how ALOT of radios are. Most people don't get the full potential preout voltage because they don't put the sub level up but alot of radios use the sub level to adjust the voltage the preouts deliver to the amp.
@@californiajack1244 This is how my kenwood is as well i have to have sub out all the way up. With my sub output at 0 i have to have my gain almost up all the way just to get my sub to move a little bit which obviously isn't right. This might also be different with different head units of course
@@omglolwot bro all kenwood stereos got a enhanced bass output and then you turn it up to +6 lol… your problem could be not enough wattage from the amp or your rca’s are some cheap jump rope ones or you probably wired your subwoofer to 8 or 16 ohms.
I always turn my subwoofer level all the way up. I have a jvc so there is no bass at 0 level and a hell of a lot of bass on 8. Clear as F I did a video on this.
I always do this, i even experimented with having both the sub level and SLA all the way up on my pioneer deck and noticed a huge difference. SLA probably helped me with my system due to the fact that i use my iphone thru the usb input.
This head unit has class D Amplifier?At 2.53 min. the EQ is not flat.Above 500 hz there is a step upwards.For my focal speakers that are bright sounding,i will make a step downwards....mids and highs.
I have my bass on my eq turned all the way off not just flat.. I've always heard to do that so then it's less likely to distort and also I've heard that it's best to just have the amp do all the work..
Good evening! I have a car stereo that I acquired a few years ago, it is the DEH-P9400BH model, which has a bluetooth problem, a message appears that says ERROR 10, I have already done everything that is mentioned in the manual according to the It fails, I try to update the fireware and the option does not appear, the autostereo does have the bluetooth function, I can activate and deactivate it, but no device detects the autostereo. The bluetooth version does not appear in the hidden menu, I completely removed the power from the car stereo and the problem continues. The only thing I couldn't do is reset or restart the car stereo to its factory settings, since it doesn't have a reset button. I hope you can help me, I'm waiting for good news, greetings.
thanks man do you recommend my port facing front along with my sub or side port or even back port? i’m building a box for a single L7 12” going in a car trunk nothing to crazy just for some added bass
If you can seal it off from the trunk have port and sub forward. If you have it trunk space only then sub up or back and port sideways is what I would do.
See i love my mids an highs to be so loud thay make you flinch so i set just zero everything then go by what sounds best and leave a the boost stuff off
If you keep sub level at 0 your preout voltage is only 2.5. You can use +3 sla on USB for higher voltage undistorted. But I use +6 sub to get 5v preout. Don't even have to turn my gain knob at all on my amp
@@rubenavila3881 I don't use sla, I was referring to a video on UA-cam from these guys who tested the preout of 80prs. I personally don't use sla. I do use +6 sub level to get 5v so I don't even have to turn my amplifier gain up at all.
@@JacobViral2 I just recieved my oscope today and actually using SLA 3 gives you 4v at -7.5 db and 5v at -5 db and that is clean voltage at volume 62. I decided to do that because sub level +6 clipped at 62 for me. So instead of that I just use SLA at 3 with sub level at 0.
Love your content, but I believe 1 octave is either a halfing or doubling of the frequency. 1 octave below 80hz is 40hz. One octave above 80hz is 160hz. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
@@JacobViral2 I was just pointing that out, for some reason it stuck out at me when you said it. Like you I am still learning, so maybe you just got mixed up. However if you wanted a half octave then either multiply by 0.75 to get one half octave lower or multiply by 1 5 to get one half octave higher. Awesome to get a response though!
So I turn everything up but my subwoofer preout only at .7v my sub barely moves. Beand new exelon 705 kenwood and jp23 amp at 4ohm=700 watts. Need help
I could swear every 80 prs has a different looking interface. 3 probably but, Mine looks completely different than this. I'm curious if you have the chassis switch active for internal x-over? My PRS controls x-over to all amps., but my interface is WAY different than yours. Just curious. Thanks for the vids!
I put mine in network mode (via switch) but it still not showing network 1,2 etc.. it is still showing the same front HPF1 (the ones we see in std mode). Can anyone advice what can be the issue??
What level of volume should I put on my mobile to have good quality sound ? Should I put it on max volume of keep it slightly down ? My BT volume start from 0-15 .
Hey Jacob I just got the pioneer deh80.. that is what you have isn't it?? .. if it is what do you think about the network setting.. I see you don't have yours set that way.. thanks bro love your videos
@@JacobViral2 I gotcha I know your more of a bass guy anyways its probably more for sq... but I have played with it does have more features and can fine tune your slopes and everything on your crossovers so if your interested in more fine tuning your crossover you might want to check it out?? Awesome videos brother I have watched ALLL of them!! Im in ga also so maybe we could run into one another and I give you a demo of my accord wagon!! BassON bro! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
I use the subwoofer control and bass is almost always at -6. I tune my mids and tweets without the amps on and adjust the subwoofer output with the head unit control.
@@Luminous.Dynamics not my system. Unless you like over bass distorted midrange and highs. It all changes today anyhow because I installed Pioneer DEH-S6220BS in the lot. Front rear and subwoofer rca output so that signal processor I was looking at will pair up nice with two more amps. We'll see how it goes and we can talk about it later.
@@MadDragon75 Uhh......all you had to do was set the HPF for mids and highs higher, not cut bass down from stereo cause it will cut sub bass too that way. Makes no sense For sub, you still dont need to set bass levels in the negatives. At 0, then just use rca bass knob
@@Luminous.Dynamics yes, but I get the same results. The way it was hooked up there was only one RCA output split into two for the two amps. The Mids in the doors and the tweeters in the sales in front are powered off of head unit amp. So are the rear deck and supertweets in the C pillars. Adjusting the bass in the EQ didn't affect my subwoofers in a positive aspect.. only my mids and highs. This head unit is the upgrades upgrade to my 4 year old DEH unit and has a decent immage processing upgrades including the width options with twice the bandwidth spreading and more equilizer bands as well.
@@Luminous.Dynamics because I understand what you're saying and I know that you're right but at the same time I can't explain what I'm talkin about without demonstrating it so I'm thinking about doing that you've inspired a new video.😉
Ur 80 PRS I think it pumps out 5 volt from the RCA's can u check if thats with or without clipping and do u think I'll hear a difference going to the 80prs mabey I'll he more out of my amp ?
@@JacobViral2 no does go into.protect at high volume. I'm thinking the ground wasn't in the connector tight I re-did last night and it worked fine last nite.
Stereo means left and right channels. Mono means one channel. All music has a left and right sound to it. Mono means your missing a ton of sound. If your only running one channel to your subs then that's OK for Mono. But for people's with 2 subs in separate chambers in the box, I would really recommend using stereo with red and white rca inputs used
@@Pittsburgh-412 it doesn't matter of you're talking about subs. You're actually just risking wave cancelation using subs in stereo. Wherever you position it, it doesn't matter anyway because even if both were playing the same, the aren't directional, you can't perceive stereo with subs
@TelmoMonteiro music have left and right sides. And so does bass. If you play a song that rolls the bass from left to right, you will not even notice it and one side will be completely missing when using mono
By far the best explanation of settings I've ever watched. Thank you
Anyone who knows what Equal-loudness contours are knows that that function comes in handy. Just to summarize: It enables linear sound output for you.
Great video Jacob 👍. Keep up the great work. Very helpful
Great vid jacob . Im going to change my crossover point on my sub tomarrow and see what it does .Thank you for this video. keep these great vids coming.
Thanks it helped me set up my 80 prs
This was very helpful I had a bass restoration machine and could never get right this video made my sounds way better thanks Jacob
Glad to help!
Loudness is basically just to boost sound at LOW volumes only.
Yes and its shit leave it off unless you have a s*** system from Walmart all Sony then yeah you're going to need it on the loudness High
This is the video i've been waiting for thank you Jacob!!!
You’re welcome 👍 not the best but works for me
Whether you still use this radio or not, you should always use time alignment if given the opportunity. I have this radio and the time alignment that is built in works very well. If you program it right(quite easy), you wont have an instance where you aren't sure if it worked or not; it is a noticeable difference. I was quite surprised how much it changed the sound in my little car. Figured that it mostly worked for something larger, like an S.U.V.
Good point thanks Derek
Yes sir and sub stereo mode it can correct phasing
You have to set the time allingment. Makes a huge difference
My Erisin Android HU has built-in subwoofer gain control. If I set it to 0, I have to set my Alpine amp (for my subwoofer) gain high to get the desired bass and volume. I set at 75% subwoofer gain setting on my Erisin HU and Alpine amp gain around 10-11 o'clock position, just perfect for my listening volume preference (small hatchback car).
put the headunit in network mode if you have sub mids and tweets
I'm going to be installing my first amp/sub hopefully soon. This one was a big question in my head thanks. I also want to know how to set gains/tune the amp/ subs correctly and see you answer that in other videos. Thanks for all your knowledge.
Glad to help
I got my LPF at 50hz on my pioneer. I don’t like the sound of anything above 45ish anyway. & I only play 30-40hz music.
Keep my HPF front / rear at 125hz so I get zero bass on my doors.
Like my doors screaming and my 12’s slapping…lol.
Great video. Cheers from, Ohio..
Sounds great!
@@JacobViral2
125hz hpf is not zero bass. You must have hpf jacked up on amplifiers because 125hz certainly allows bass through unless your doors or enclosures arent sealed up much
Nice dashboard. Real wood!
It worked lol
I use sub level at +6 to get 5v preout to the amp. Less noise in your system with higher preout voltage. Other than that all my settings are pretty much flat.
So I suggest doing max sub level and retune? Never thought Of it that way. You sure?
@@JacobViral2 if you dont believe me you can try it yourself. Get a multimeter and set it to ACV. Then play a 40 or 50 hz tone (i use -5 because i listen to rebassed/decaf songs) you can use 0 db to guarantee you'll never clip but if you only listen to radio songs or iTunes/pandora songs you could use a -15 to a -10 db tone. Then get the R or L RCA cable from your amp and put the negative lead on the outer shield of the rca and put the positive on the inner nipple of the rca cable. (You use pos n neg to test only 1 of the RCA from your amp. During this time your sub will not be playing due to you have an rca disconnected. (Also have to have your volume knob at 62 to get the full 5v) this is how ALOT of radios are. Most people don't get the full potential preout voltage because they don't put the sub level up but alot of radios use the sub level to adjust the voltage the preouts deliver to the amp.
@@californiajack1244 This is how my kenwood is as well i have to have sub out all the way up. With my sub output at 0 i have to have my gain almost up all the way just to get my sub to move a little bit which obviously isn't right. This might also be different with different head units of course
OMG what atrocities have occurred here... 🤦🏻♂️
@@omglolwot bro all kenwood stereos got a enhanced bass output and then you turn it up to +6 lol… your problem could be not enough wattage from the amp or your rca’s are some cheap jump rope ones or you probably wired your subwoofer to 8 or 16 ohms.
Awesome vid! Thanks Jacob!
And what deck is that btw?
Anthony Hale pioneer 80prs
@@gideonharry1238 Thank you!
Loudness off isnt true for every headunit
Loudness is made for people that want to listen to the system at a low level with a richer tone
Ya my subs like my head unit loudness at medium its weird
Idk but recently I max out the LPF on my amp and I use the one on my headunit. And it sounds wayyyyyyyyy better
loudness i must enabled on mid... because more richer sound without this is all quiet.
I was curious about network mode
I always turn my subwoofer level all the way up. I have a jvc so there is no bass at 0 level and a hell of a lot of bass on 8. Clear as F I did a video on this.
I always do this, i even experimented with having both the sub level and SLA all the way up on my pioneer deck and noticed a huge difference. SLA probably helped me with my system due to the fact that i use my iphone thru the usb input.
@@roofhy4133 thanks
This head unit has class D Amplifier?At 2.53 min. the EQ is not flat.Above 500 hz there is a step upwards.For my focal speakers that are bright sounding,i will make a step downwards....mids and highs.
I have my bass on my eq turned all the way off not just flat.. I've always heard to do that so then it's less likely to distort and also I've heard that it's best to just have the amp do all the work..
I can’t find the subwoofer setting on mine and my att wire isn’t putting out anything
Good evening! I have a car stereo that I acquired a few years ago, it is the DEH-P9400BH model, which has a bluetooth problem, a message appears that says ERROR 10, I have already done everything that is mentioned in the manual according to the It fails, I try to update the fireware and the option does not appear, the autostereo does have the bluetooth function, I can activate and deactivate it, but no device detects the autostereo. The bluetooth version does not appear in the hidden menu, I completely removed the power from the car stereo and the problem continues. The only thing I couldn't do is reset or restart the car stereo to its factory settings, since it doesn't have a reset button. I hope you can help me, I'm waiting for good news, greetings.
Sometimes older systems don't work with newer technology devices, maybe try wire connection or AUX or just upgrade needed.
For me it depends on your setup if you boost must be +2 or +3 on crossover
thanks man
do you recommend my port facing front along with my sub or side port or even back port? i’m building a box for a single L7 12” going in a car trunk
nothing to crazy just for some added bass
If you can seal it off from the trunk have port and sub forward. If you have it trunk space only then sub up or back and port sideways is what I would do.
Is the "spectrum analyzer" and "level meter" background a real analyzer or is it just a video loop?
See i love my mids an highs to be so loud thay make you flinch so i set just zero everything then go by what sounds best and leave a the boost stuff off
So your subwoofer level you like to keep at about 100 even though you box is tuned lower
Lpf 80-100hz, I also use amps for tuning cutoff points
Auto eq is the shit, your missing out.
If you keep sub level at 0 your preout voltage is only 2.5. You can use +3 sla on USB for higher voltage undistorted. But I use +6 sub to get 5v preout. Don't even have to turn my gain knob at all on my amp
I didn’t think your sub level affected that you sure? I may need to do some retuning. ;)
@@JacobViral2 definitely does sir, I used dmm ACV on sub level 0 is 2.5v and with sub level +6 is 5v
Using 40 or 50 hz teack -5db
@@rubenavila3881 I don't use sla, I was referring to a video on UA-cam from these guys who tested the preout of 80prs. I personally don't use sla. I do use +6 sub level to get 5v so I don't even have to turn my amplifier gain up at all.
California Jack thank you! Will give it a go as that explains why my gain is almost half atm
@@JacobViral2 I just recieved my oscope today and actually using SLA 3 gives you 4v at -7.5 db and 5v at -5 db and that is clean voltage at volume 62. I decided to do that because sub level +6 clipped at 62 for me. So instead of that I just use SLA at 3 with sub level at 0.
Love your content, but I believe 1 octave is either a halfing or doubling of the frequency. 1 octave below 80hz is 40hz. One octave above 80hz is 160hz. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
You're right.
Correct but i try to stick around half an octave so 25?
@@JacobViral2 I was just pointing that out, for some reason it stuck out at me when you said it. Like you I am still learning, so maybe you just got mixed up. However if you wanted a half octave then either multiply by 0.75 to get one half octave lower or multiply by 1
5 to get one half octave higher. Awesome to get a response though!
Im running 160 on lpf for sub and for saftey measures on subs ultimate car audio app has any frequency for however long to check
Sub level is your sub out voltage lol. If its at 0 youre not gonna see 5v from rcas
Great video
So I turn everything up but my subwoofer preout only at .7v my sub barely moves. Beand new exelon 705 kenwood and jp23 amp at 4ohm=700 watts. Need help
I would think you need to set your amp at 1 ohm and not 4 for most power if you have the electrical to support.
Thanks for the video
But wen I put it at flat my door speakers bass alot n sound bad and I have Rockford fosgate so can I go below 0 for the bass on the eq
Great video!!!
Thanks
I could swear every 80 prs has a different looking interface. 3 probably but, Mine looks completely different than this. I'm curious if you have the chassis switch active for internal x-over? My PRS controls x-over to all amps., but my interface is WAY different than yours. Just curious. Thanks for the vids!
Idk what that even is sorry and I’m sure different year has different models plus different builds
Your in network mode, where the p80rs shines. Jacob is in standard mode
I put mine in network mode (via switch) but it still not showing network 1,2 etc.. it is still showing the same front HPF1 (the ones we see in std mode). Can anyone advice what can be the issue??
You can go plus 3 on SLA bluetooth no distortion and plus 3 on usb1 and usb2...AUX PLUS 2 NO destortion
ua-cam.com/video/aOKHtwBJgmM/v-deo.html
I have the same deck
No you don't and you're just stupid that means you don't have a good highs amp or bass amp
What level of volume should I put on my mobile to have good quality sound ?
Should I put it on max volume of keep it slightly down ?
My BT volume start from 0-15 .
Hey Jacob I just got the pioneer deh80.. that is what you have isn't it?? .. if it is what do you think about the network setting.. I see you don't have yours set that way.. thanks bro love your videos
Yep I got 80prs and never used network mode personally. Idk
@@JacobViral2 I gotcha I know your more of a bass guy anyways its probably more for sq... but I have played with it does have more features and can fine tune your slopes and everything on your crossovers so if your interested in more fine tuning your crossover you might want to check it out?? Awesome videos brother I have watched ALLL of them!! Im in ga also so maybe we could run into one another and I give you a demo of my accord wagon!! BassON bro! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
I use the subwoofer control and bass is almost always at -6.
I tune my mids and tweets without the amps on and adjust the subwoofer output with the head unit control.
Congrats on removing bass. Supposed to be at 0
@@Luminous.Dynamics not my system.
Unless you like over bass distorted midrange and highs.
It all changes today anyhow because I installed Pioneer DEH-S6220BS in the lot.
Front rear and subwoofer rca output so that signal processor I was looking at will pair up nice with two more amps.
We'll see how it goes and we can talk about it later.
@@MadDragon75
Uhh......all you had to do was set the HPF for mids and highs higher, not cut bass down from stereo cause it will cut sub bass too that way. Makes no sense
For sub, you still dont need to set bass levels in the negatives. At 0, then just use rca bass knob
@@Luminous.Dynamics yes, but I get the same results.
The way it was hooked up there was only one RCA output split into two for the two amps.
The Mids in the doors and the tweeters in the sales in front are powered off of head unit amp.
So are the rear deck and supertweets in the C pillars.
Adjusting the bass in the EQ didn't affect my subwoofers in a positive aspect.. only my mids and highs.
This head unit is the upgrades upgrade to my 4 year old DEH unit and has a decent immage processing upgrades including the width options with twice the bandwidth spreading and more equilizer bands as well.
@@Luminous.Dynamics because I understand what you're saying and I know that you're right but at the same time I can't explain what I'm talkin about without demonstrating it so I'm thinking about doing that you've inspired a new video.😉
Thats me right there. All that gimmicky mess 📴
any reason you don't use the network mode?
Never tried it needed. Idk even what it does tbh.
Pioneer 970price
Ur 80 PRS I think it pumps out 5 volt from the RCA's can u check if thats with or without clipping and do u think I'll hear a difference going to the 80prs mabey I'll he more out of my amp ?
It’s 5volts clean yep and usually cleaner signal for the 4-5c precuts seems but 2v can do the trick as well I’m sure no difference.
You set to flat and the tune the amp or tune the head unit then the amp
I personally keep my Bass always flat and tune amp to that. For the mids/highs in here’s more adjustment.
What is the model of this pioneer deck?
This was 80PRS amzn.to/39gR9Vc / ebay.us/OWB7zC
You dont use network mode?
No idk even what that does the never tried messing with
@@JacobViral2 dude! Way more control. I have the same unit in my Tundra you sat in at slamfest. Wait to you see my rebuild.
Network mode is when you have the RCA as a high,mid,and low output,rather than front,rear,subwoofer outputs
My amp keeps going on protect mode i have re-done all connection can u help??
Is it in protect at only high volume levels or always? Usually amps blown if it’s always protect.
@@JacobViral2 no does go into.protect at high volume. I'm thinking the ground wasn't in the connector tight I re-did last night and it worked fine last nite.
@@JacobViral2 one other question is best to get an am tailored around the sub???
Stereo means left and right channels. Mono means one channel. All music has a left and right sound to it. Mono means your missing a ton of sound. If your only running one channel to your subs then that's OK for Mono. But for people's with 2 subs in separate chambers in the box, I would really recommend using stereo with red and white rca inputs used
Low frequency isn't directional
@@TelmoMonteiro music isn't mono. What's your point
@@Pittsburgh-412 it doesn't matter of you're talking about subs. You're actually just risking wave cancelation using subs in stereo. Wherever you position it, it doesn't matter anyway because even if both were playing the same, the aren't directional, you can't perceive stereo with subs
@@TelmoMonteiro your wrong
@TelmoMonteiro music have left and right sides. And so does bass. If you play a song that rolls the bass from left to right, you will not even notice it and one side will be completely missing when using mono
My system is louder with loudness high and sla at 4 or 5
U definitely clipping 😂
@@jovansoleil its loud now
I cannot find new 80PRS can u suggest alternate to 80PRS in Pionner and Alspine
Similar with this one the 8800 amzn.to/3LE9NYo
16 band eq or dual 16
What model of ur car stereo?
Pioneer 80PRS
Which pioneer head unit is that?
Pioneer 80PRS amzn.to/39gR9Vc / ebay.us/OWB7zC
My is set at 100hz lowpass 24db slope
That’ll work 👍
Is the Alpine cde 175bt a good head unit?
Looks good yes 👍 nice pic