Steve Albini & Joe Steinhardt in Conversation [Drexel Music Industry Program]
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2019
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Steve Albini & Joe Steinhardt in conversation as part of the Drexel Music Industry Program visiting lecture series.
11/14/2019 at URBN Center Annex.
Video and editing by Bob Sweeney
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I love his perspective -- especially when he describes his failures.
The disagreement around the hour mark. As i understand it, Steve's point is the interwebs provide the naturally inquisitive seeker-oddball with an opportunity never before available. My 80s gen x experience confirms this utterly, and I've had many discussions with my gen z daughter about the difference in finding cool music when i was young. Interview dude's worry is the big guys (apple, Spotify etc) are sucking up the audience with their convenience and ease. Well, those consumers were gonna do that anyway, so Steve's right, at least now the weirdos can sidestep the gatekeepers. And even the gatekeepers can't actually stop anyone. How many
Strongly agree about weirdos being able to side step the gatekeepers. I was in an unsigned band in the mid 90s, we recorded an album and then broke up with the intent of still releasing the album, however getting together money for mastering and CD production meant it wasn't listener ready or promotable (eg on a format we could get radio played) until 6 years later. An unimaginable delay in this day and age.
I like that this interview is conducted assuming prior audience knowledge of Albini, his projects, and his ethos. Allows us to dig into the sausage making a little bit.
a tip : watch series on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Aries Skylar definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D
Always inspiring to listen to Steve!
I have to disagree on one statement: There is a virtuous drummachine artist. And while I'm not particularly fond of his music, what Jeff Mills can do to an audience just playing the TR909 qualifies as genuine artistic, at least in my book.
gr8 work joe
thats very true for me - i make music for myself - i only share it with people as an afterthought its never the primary goal
Amazing!!!!
@56:38 spot on joe...i love albini; but i feel he missed your point re big data/tech/analytics...an easy example is Revolut, "free banking", but, "..."
"Lingua franca"
Gosh, he was so smart!
Lingua franca...give me a break! Lol
I feel Albini was anchored to a web 1.0 idea of the internet and that's why all he saw was how it dismantled the gatekeeping of the old record companies (which is undoubtedly a positive thing). web 2.0 is a whole different horse, much more oligopolistic and centralized in nature, but I think the host failed to properly highlight the downsides of this system, both in matters of control and in the way music is consumed.
The reason why the result of a lot of people voicing their opinions on the internet is fascism is that the mediums they voiced their opinions on support that way of thinking. None of the website we're all on are neutral, they are all for ideologies that will keep them in power. Steinhardt's comment was quite short-sighted, it's sad and a little dangerous.
No. Incredible fear mongering actually.
The problem with Albini’s “The Problem with Music” analysis is that the music industry did collapse. And we got to see what happened. Not in theory, but in reality. Before, when the music industry was thriving, there were endless classic records made, and now, with no industry, there are no classic records being made. So it’s all very much worse now, from the perspective of the recording arts.
CBGB
"Yes, my capitalist company is anticapitalist." k lol
Steve has answered this in another interview by pointing out that a "capitalist's" primary objective is to generate capital in the form of profits for stakeholders whereas EA redirects revenue into acquiring more gear in order to maintain EA's working model, and their love of the craft. So sure they exist in a capitalist system, but any argument that generating capital was the primary objective of EA or Albini can be debunked on the basis of him not taking producer points, as well as the studio maintaining affordable rates for indie acts.