I think it would be interesting to see the reactions from companions when they are romanced, because for some of them it changes their views. For example, if Astarion is romanced, he firmly disagrees with the decision to have Tav become a mind flayer.
A lot of the companions are acting like you are already the only one who can become a mind flayer, lol. At least Shadowheart says "I can't bear to become one myself", indicating she at least understands she could do it too. Others talk about "Your choice". Hm, ok, Halsin and Jaheira aren't infected, so I guess they really can't. Although Orpheus can turn himself into a mind flayer without being infected.
Agree, I think other than Karlach, one or two companions should have willing to sacrifice themself too to become mind flayer, notably Lae'zel (if Orpheus is freed). Also, looking at how Minthara said it will be good if we become mind flayer, why she didn't do it by herself? haha 🤣
They all could become a mind flayer, Halsin and Jaheira could too, after all its an illithid tadpole, which is why I assume orpheus is able to, he just uses the tadpole. The gith prince shouldnt have the power to turn people into illithids I would think. It makes less sense for Halsin and Jaheria since they were never infected in the first place, but everyone would be cured afterwards anyway so its really just about who can shoulder the burden of being an illithid afterwards.
@@TjoaJunChoi Minthara just wanted a squidy daddy. When Tav becomes a Flayer he realizes it's only a matter of time till he loses himself to it. Not even the legendary Baldur could resist the twisting of becoming a mindflayer.
@@unknownvalor9755 That's debatable. The narrator teases this, only to do a 180 and add "Or maybe not. Maybe you'll manage to stay yourself". The game is deliberately leaving it open. It's also debatable what made Balduran turn evil. Could be a mix of having already had some character flaws before transforming, receiving too many illithid characteristics upon transformation (not necessarily becoming more illithid over time, just being like that from the beginning), spending 13 years as a slave of the Absolute being indoctrinated, and/or being disillusioned by its negative experiences as a mind flayer, being frustrated with all the hate it was getting and therefore becoming more bitter and calculating.
@@Mithcoriel No, it is absolutely not open. The narrator is only reflecting what the mindflayer PC is thinking when she says that, not as if it's an option. The PC either is the same person or is not, that is not an RP choice as it is a consequence of a choice. We also do know which it is for Tav/Durge ( I haven't seen what happens with origin Karlach to know for sure, but I assume it's the same). Tav/Durge are gone, and the way you know is simple. Remember, this is not an RP choice, only the way the character interprets it/what the character thinks is. When the PC's romance partner asks if it is still him/her, there are options to suggest it is still the same person; however, this is valid whether the PC is the same person OR if the minflayer simply thinks it, so leaving it there would be unclear. However, there is also the option to say that the old person is gone. This is not something that would be misinterpreted by the PC. This option only makes sense of the mindflayer is a new being, therefore its inclusion makes it clear. Tav/Durge is gone.
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I think it would be interesting to see the reactions from companions when they are romanced, because for some of them it changes their views. For example, if Astarion is romanced, he firmly disagrees with the decision to have Tav become a mind flayer.
A lot of the companions are acting like you are already the only one who can become a mind flayer, lol. At least Shadowheart says "I can't bear to become one myself", indicating she at least understands she could do it too. Others talk about "Your choice". Hm, ok, Halsin and Jaheira aren't infected, so I guess they really can't. Although Orpheus can turn himself into a mind flayer without being infected.
Agree, I think other than Karlach, one or two companions should have willing to sacrifice themself too to become mind flayer, notably Lae'zel (if Orpheus is freed). Also, looking at how Minthara said it will be good if we become mind flayer, why she didn't do it by herself? haha 🤣
They all could become a mind flayer, Halsin and Jaheira could too, after all its an illithid tadpole, which is why I assume orpheus is able to, he just uses the tadpole. The gith prince shouldnt have the power to turn people into illithids I would think. It makes less sense for Halsin and Jaheria since they were never infected in the first place, but everyone would be cured afterwards anyway so its really just about who can shoulder the burden of being an illithid afterwards.
@@TjoaJunChoi Minthara just wanted a squidy daddy. When Tav becomes a Flayer he realizes it's only a matter of time till he loses himself to it. Not even the legendary Baldur could resist the twisting of becoming a mindflayer.
@@unknownvalor9755 That's debatable. The narrator teases this, only to do a 180 and add "Or maybe not. Maybe you'll manage to stay yourself". The game is deliberately leaving it open.
It's also debatable what made Balduran turn evil. Could be a mix of having already had some character flaws before transforming, receiving too many illithid characteristics upon transformation (not necessarily becoming more illithid over time, just being like that from the beginning), spending 13 years as a slave of the Absolute being indoctrinated, and/or being disillusioned by its negative experiences as a mind flayer, being frustrated with all the hate it was getting and therefore becoming more bitter and calculating.
@@Mithcoriel No, it is absolutely not open. The narrator is only reflecting what the mindflayer PC is thinking when she says that, not as if it's an option. The PC either is the same person or is not, that is not an RP choice as it is a consequence of a choice. We also do know which it is for Tav/Durge ( I haven't seen what happens with origin Karlach to know for sure, but I assume it's the same). Tav/Durge are gone, and the way you know is simple. Remember, this is not an RP choice, only the way the character interprets it/what the character thinks is. When the PC's romance partner asks if it is still him/her, there are options to suggest it is still the same person; however, this is valid whether the PC is the same person OR if the minflayer simply thinks it, so leaving it there would be unclear. However, there is also the option to say that the old person is gone. This is not something that would be misinterpreted by the PC. This option only makes sense of the mindflayer is a new being, therefore its inclusion makes it clear. Tav/Durge is gone.
I am still waiting to get the option to go for Omelum to save the day