Mickey Jupp and The Pirates are both good calls. Thanks! I answered The Pirates question in an earlier comment (please have a look), but I think Mickey Jupp definitely was an influential and important figure. I didn't include him for two reasons: 1. He did his best to disrupt things rather than move them on (and no harm there, IMO!), and 2. I could only choose 5. Maybe I'll do another Top 5… 😀
Great minds think alike! Graham Parker and the Rumour is already on my list for a future video. I'm not sure they're actually "forgotten heroes", but they are certainly heroes… Thanks for the kind words - Cheers!
Good call - and thanks for the comment! In my defence, I remember Mick Green telling me once that he didn't really see The Pirates as a "pub band". It made me feel slightly guilty that, at the time the Pirates were about to go on stage for me at The Cricketers, Kennington Oval. He also tried to sell me insurance that night, but that's another story… 😀
Ole Whispering Bob in the beginning! I agree Dr Feelgood...epitome of pub rock! Great video! Kilburn +HR just makes you wanna go to your local soak up the suds! Oh man the Brinsley's just sloshing around doing that CSN meets the Band thing...Robinson huge catalyst...this is like Will Birch book! Excellently researched video ya got here. Guildford Stranglers were truly a hybrid band...
I think your top 5 is pretty good, there were some excellent others who I’d like to see get a mention in a top 10, including Plummet Airlines and The Soft Boys, great bands!
5:07 Very interesting video. We were briefly on the pub rock circuit in late 1973 / early 1974. One pub we played several times was The Lord Nelson. The other bands appearing regularly there were Feelgoods, Kilburn & The High Roads, Brinsley, Ducks Deluxe and a band called The Winkies. I remember being told that the band that pulled the biggest audiences was The Winkies. And yet you never anything about them. I did a gig with Eddie in 1977 but they were not as far as I know (and Wiki suggests 1975 was their formation date) in existence then. Similarly, I've no recollection of The Stranglers on the circuit when we were. I later in 1977 toured with another band I was in, supporting The Tyla Gang (led by Sean Tyla, ex Ducks Deluxe). Rothko, the 1973/74 band, reunited a few years back and put down some material in the studio as Rothko and Mark Pritchett (Mark had been one of Bowies collaborators c1971-73 and Rothko originally formed to support him on tour, but never did). That material is on the main streaming platforms. The 1977/78 band was VHF. These days as an old geezer I enjoy arranging, producing and a bit of writing, in my home recording studio - I always wanted to do that in the 1970s, couldn't afford then but can in my 70s 😆👍 I do vocals and most instruments except for bass which is usually done by Paul Jenningd, the Rothko bassist from the 1970s. Our stuff is at: Check out Hugh Boy on #SoundCloud on.soundcloud.com/62NHx Hope the years have treated you well - happy days 👍
Thanks for sharing your memories of the pub rock circuit! It's always fascinating to hear about the bands and venues from that era from another perspective. I'll definitely check out Hugh Boy on SoundCloud; thanks for sharing the link!
Duck's Deluxe, ,the greatest Pub Rock Band ever! IMO... shout out for Dr Feelgood too. The 70s Old Grey Whistle Test with Bob Harris/Annie Nightingale RIP. ♥The greatest music show ever!
What about John Ottway? Used to see him in the half moon , Putney. Saw my first Wild West type bar brawl there. Barstools & ashtrays flying at the optics.
Good call! I've booked John Otway literally hundreds of times from the early 1980s but I think you'd be hard-pressed to describe what he did as "important". Wild Willy Barrett was always the writer and innovator when they were together and John has continued to perform those songs to this day. Maybe I should do video about John Otway, the showman?!
@@JimDriver Wild Willy is living in the Southwest nowadays,where I’m living too. Often bumped into WWB and even played some piano with him at a jam session in a Glastonbury pub. I first saw Otway live when he had a guitarist named Robin who sung a vocal refrain on the heartbreak ballad ‘Middle Of Winter’.
The old slogan should be repeated over and over again: Pub rock forever!!! p.s. The Pirates were the ultimate pub rock, no matter what Mick said! They are on my list for sure. 😜
Very glad you gave The Stranglers a mention. I was too young back then to go see them (7 in ‘77!) but been my favourite band since ‘79 and saw them yet again March this year. So much more than a punk band with Dave Greenfield on board. Great video, cheers. Ps, Dr Feelgood is a great choice also
Thanks for the kind words. Back in the day, I used to argue with people who said The Stranglers a😄nd The Jam were Punk bands. I'd seen both of them before Punk started and they were both far from Punky back then! Having said that, I was impressed by how back bands developed a new style and incorporated the new music into their material. Happy days… 😄
Excellent choices. I was a little young so was not going to pubs , especially London pubs, but when I got into music aged 14 in '78 Ian Dury, Nick Lowe, Strangers were on my like list. I did not fully appreciate Dr. Feelgood until much later, but then I was a young and quite young looking ( not going to go to a pub or buy drinks under age ) female who was discovering them on the radio. You were fortunate to have seen them in their prime.
Not sure the Hamsters would qualify as they were more derivative than innovative in my opinion. But nice chaps. I recall having a very interesting conversation with Barry about acid reflux at the 100 Club…
Great seeing a picture of our beloved Bridgehouse in Canning Town. The first pub I got into (underaged of course) and saw real live bands. RDB, Dogwatch, The Warm Jets, Rory Gallagher, Q-Tips, Chas and Dave, Girlschool, Filthy McNasty to name just a few. Hot sticky nights, a couple of pints and coming home stinking of other peoples smoke. The good old days.😊
Sounds like you had some incredible memories at the Bridge House! I know I did. Terry Murphy was a powerhouse. It's always amazing to look back on those good old days and remember the great times…
@JimDriver and that was when the music was original not just tribute acts. Those days are gone now it's just more or less impossible to get a live music licence. One complaint from some miserable git about the noise and the council will shut you down. Where I live now in Watford I have still within walking distance three pubs that host live music but apart from the Horns in the high street which has closed and reopened due to public pressure and until recently hosted artists like Wilko the others are 'sixties nights' or ' The Magic Of Mercury'. Not much chance of hearing anything new or groundbreaking. Unfortunately the nights where you saw something new, whether it was good or crap or a talented new artist giving his all in front of a packed house are over. To quote Freddie, "Those were the days of our lives".
Alberto Y Lost Trios Paranoias, I saw them regularly in the mid-1970's at Clarence's in Halifax. Greensleeper, I used to see them regularly around the same time at the Fforde Grene in Leeds. Other notables from Clarence's were Nutz and Brewer's Droop who had a young guy on guitar by the name of Mark Knopfler, I wonder what happened to him?
Indeed: Chilli Wilkie were great. But this wasn't about the best but the most important and although they were certainly in contention, I think Mighty Baby would have pipped them at the post…
I missed the Count Bishops. They were a kind of link between blues rock and punk, their background was big, blues, rock from the 50s and 60s including garage bands... They also played with bands like The Clash and Motörhead.
The count bishops were genuinely awesome. Whenever I saw them, they took my breath away. Not so sure about Motörhead (never really a fan of Lemmy or loud music of that type) but I get what you're saying! Cheers!
I missed the London Pub Rock scene of the 70’s because I was too young and living in Birmingham. I finally got to live in London from 1987 and saw Wilko Johnson and John Otway at the King’s Head in Fulham and the Half Moon in Putney. I didn’t see the classic Pirates line up Green,Spence & Farley line,until the 90’s-00’s. Being a Brummy, the Steve Gibbons Band were my favourites. By 1981 the classic SGB lineup had broken up but they solidified again with Brendon Day,Jock Evans,P.J Wright and Brian Badhams and often played London when I was living there. SGB’s two incendiary cuts of ‘Johnny Cool’ & ‘Speed Kills’ are on the Live At The Hope And Anchor double album. Lew Lewis Reformer appeared on another H&A live album and I have their classic ‘Save The Wail’ album. The Blues Band and George Thorogood were getting seen on T.V so it all fed in to the Pub Rock scene.
So, you missed the Pub Rock scene in the 70s but made up for it with a music marathon in the 80s and 90s! Better late than never! And the SGB were truly great back then...
The Railway hotel in southend closed recently which was an immense shame as over the last 12 yrs gave birth to some amazing bands such as Virgo intacta, Archimedes, Tuppeny bunters, thomas truax & many others, it was also the place where Wilco johnson often popped in for a quick drink & played many times.
Really enjoyable video .I guessed the first two and Steve Wright has Do Anything You Wanna Do as the greatest song of all time. Hard to argue with that
Would be interesting to read about some of the pub venues outside of London. The holy grail for bands in my part of the world was The Market Tavern in Hereford.
Hi Jim - I'm not sure why (some people say because of punk) but pub rock didn't generally get the traction that the bands doing that circuit deserved and it remained a largely London phenomenon. You tell the story well (and I'm SURE there's lots more to tell!) and you have produced a great top 5 list. It's hard now to believe that a lot of these guys were also working day jobs at the time. I was working down in Plymouth in those days so heard about the scene through Melody Maker and the OGWT but knew little other than that so I appreciate you filling in the gaps!
Indeed! I used to love that band. Imagine how thrilled I was when ace BMH guitarist Mick Malloy (who's also a skilful carpenter) turned up to do some woodworking at my house many years later!
I miss: Chuck Farley, The Monday Band, Mike Fab Gear, The Hampsters and visiting the Grey Horse Kingston, Half Moon Putney and the Almighty Southampton in Surbiton, that pub in Fulham Broadway that I can’t remember the name of …… amongst many others. Enjoying your videos 😊
Bees make honey were from Scotland ? Willy Finlayson the singer and guitarist went on to form "Writing on the wall" and then in the late 70s "Mealticket" He still plays on Sunday lunchtimes in a pub in Richmond
Pretty sure I didn't say Bees Make Honey were from Scotland, because I know most members (especially the original ones) were Irish and Barry Richardson worked in Oxford Street in the middle of London and sounded pretty English to me. Thanks for commenting and please keep watching!
I quite agree. IMO people moaning that small venues are dying are missing the point: yes, rents and expenses are crippling but the most fundamental problem is that too few people want to go and watch live music. And those that do, don't want to pay! It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation in that we need good bands for people to want to go out and watch them but to get that… Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment!
Ok, The Nashville flyer at 4:24: "101'ers and the Sex Pistols." Did the 101'ers continue without Strummer or was he splitting time between them and The Clash in the very early days? Always thought Mick, Joe, and Paul were already doing their thing when the Pistols were forming and playing their early shows. Anybody have insight here?
Strummer left the 101ers for the Clash but did not go back. Clash started playing summer 76 at least a year after the Pistols formed. Richard Dudanski, the 101ers drummer went on to play with the Raincoats, PIL and Basement 5.
Don't forget that a lot of these bands also played the university and college circuit at the same time. I regularly went to see them at Brunel University in Uxbridge, West London, although I was a local lad and not a student. Dr. Feelgood, Eddie & the Hot Rods (with supporting disco - 50p if I remember correctly), The Kusaal Flyers, Burlesque, The Stranglers, The Darts, etc. all featured in the mid seventies with many more major bands. The University Student Union used to regularly visit the local schools to sell tickets to these events.
Yes, indeed and that was where the big paydays were for the Pub Rock bands. People forget that £60-£80 (or whatever) from a gig at the Brecknock or Hope & Anchor divided by 5 or 6 with a roadie and petrol to pay (never mind buying and renewing equipment, strings, skins, etc), didn't go very far. A couple of hundred quid from a college gig helped pay the bills! When I was social secretary at Chelmsford, we were near enough to London to get our pick of the best bands and not pay the earth for them - for colleges always paid more. Cheers!
@@JimDriverWe did a uni gig supporting The Troggs (who were enjoying a 70s revival following appearance on Bowies 1980 Floor Show) and the student union guy tried not to pay us the agreed fee. Reg and the boys took him to one side and 'explained' they wouldn't be going onstage until/unless we got paid properly. They paid up sharpish after that 😆Musician's United. Happy Days 👍
Great list Jim. I was lucky enough to be in the audience when you put on Chuck Berry at the 100 Club. Why would you not include Nine Below Zero? Amazing set that night in my opinion and an unforgettable gig. Thank you !
Thanks, Rob, I appreciate your continued support over the years! Nine Below Zero were (and are) great, but were they “important” in terms of Pub Rock? I’m not sure they qualify in that department …
At their peak (I'd say 1975-76), the Feelgoods were the absolute best. Having said that, their many line-ups have provided me with pleasure. It wasn't just the Wilko/Brilleaux/Sparks/Figure line-up that shone, there was a special kind of magic that stays with them to this day IMO…
Yes, they were great and both they and the Hot Rods had fine songwriter Graeme Douglas in their ranks for a while, but I think the Hot Rods pip the flyers for Pub Rock Importance…
Never got to see Feelgood or the Hot Rods. A couple of pub rock bands worth a mention were SALT (Litlle Stevie Smith is still touring now) & Hershey & The 12 bars. The latter played at the old leather bottle in colliers wood regularly on Friday nights. Sometimes Stevie Waller from Manfred Manns Earth Band would guest on lead guitar. That was amazing.
As well as the Feelgoods and Hot Rods, I saw SALT and Hershey and the 12 Bars regularly and enjoyed both, though (in my view) neither had the raw energy - which is what I seemed to crave back then - of the Southend/Canvey bands. Now I'd probably feel differently! Thanks for commenting!
Your videos are amazing I saw Dr Feelgood in 1975 Hemel Hempstead Pavilion Herts UK Pub Rock first came to My attention by family friend Mike groome Ducks deluxe my first concert was 1969 my step mother Jean son played with Mike groome on Drums They were called The Black tulip went on to be called EVE then Mike joined Ducks deluxe round that time l think we may of crossed paths use to see Screaming Lord stuch Play the Sir George Roby Finsbury Park, keep up the great work cheers 🥂 Steve 💯.
Thanks for your kind comments, Stephen: it's very much appreciated and makes it a pleasure! Glad you were part of everything with me "back in the day". I reeally feel sorry for those who missed it. Cheers!
@@JimDriver Very true Jim l also saw many times 9 Below zero in the early 80s didn't liked them when they became The Truth l thought they were a poor man's Jam owing to the fact the jam had split up The sir George Roby Finsbury Park what a great venue used to see The Groundhogs Play there on a Saturday night Late 80s anther great Pub Rock band were The Blues Band anyway thanks 🙏 again.
You seem to have omitted a band called the Pirates from the list Jim? Led by the late, great Mick Green ( from whom Wilco Johnson derived his cutting lead/rhythm style) this was the band that, as a support, destroyed Eddie and The Hot Rods, with their devastating, menacing power. One journalist who witnessed the Hot Rod’s destruction commented: ‘Never follow the Pirates’ Sadly only bassist Johnny Spence is still with us. RIP Mick and Drummer Frank Farley. Check em out! Regards John D
Hello John! I did a video about the Pirates, so it might have been a bit OTT to include them in that particular list as well! Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers! Johnny Kidd And The Pirates: British Rock Pioneers ua-cam.com/video/979OaDSzBe0/v-deo.html
Ah my apologies Jim. I haven’t seen that one yet. The Pirates were a marvellous bunch of guys - and great company. I had been a fan for many years and it was an honour to finally meet them. As a young bass player, I was mightily impressed by their economical, powerful sound. Mick was relaxed, cool with a wonderfully dry wit that could be as cutting as his choppy guitar chords. Keep well and have a great Christmas! John
Great top 5 or 6 with the Stranglers. I’m just wondering why you titled the video Top Pub Band of the 70s & & 80s when all these bands had stopped gigging in pubs by the 80s 🤔
Thanks! It has that title to differentiate the era of Pub Rock and to get people to watch it And just because a band doesn't play pubs any more doesn't mean it's not a Pub Rock band! Cheers!
Yes I have, it was great! But I do have mixed feelings about it, as I was working with Wilko at the time and I saw how he changed as his fame grew. Contrary to myth, Wilko always hated playing in small venues like pubs and the 100 Club and he longed to return to the big open stages he played at the height of his fame. As his stature grew - he got the Game of Thrones gig on the day he played a show for me at the 100 Club - he started to distance himself from those of us who'd worked with him during the "lean years" and inserted first a "manager" then an agent between us. Interesting times…
North End Boogie Band whom, I believe, hailed from Fulham. It was rumoured that some of their more ardent fans would steal a car in Fulham, drive it to the band's gig, then steal another car near the gig to get home, The great drummer Simon Phillips guested with them once or twice
Have to say my No 1 was Scarecrow who I saw regularly at The Thomas a' Beckett and the Lord Nelson in Holloway! Heavy rock/Prog with a touch of Jethro Tull.Great times a long long time ago.
Slow one. They were regulars at The Western Counties, Paddington, The Breaknock and of course at The Bridgehouse. They had 2 tracks recorded there Hero and Hand Shandy, their best song live was "Can I bring you love" which they put out as a single.
Absolutely! Micley continues to be a great songwriter, musician and performer. He;s also been known to watch my videos, which is a great honour for me!
Indeed! I enjoy talking about the Business side of the music industry back then but unfortunately no one seems to watch those videos. I'll try and include some stuff on the Albion guys(particularly Derek Savage, who I worked with later) in and amongst my other videos. Cheers!
@@JimDriver another good venue in the 70s was digbys in Birkenhead seen the jam there before they became famous !
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Stranglers ! Eddie and the hot rods ! No ducks deluxe ,Tyla gang ,bees make honey at least you mentioned the brinsleys. I allways thought that that ‘pub rock’ was a seventies scene and was dead by the eighties. So I beg to differ from you ( I was there at the time, just remember it differently) or and I forgot to mention eggs over easy who were the first but not the best.
I don't know if you've noticed, but this isn't the only video I've done. All those bands are mentioned in other videos. Hope you subscribed and that you'll be watching more. Cheers!
I agree and I've already done a video on Johnny Kidd and the Pirates that includes the later years. Please feel free to check it out and tell me what you think: ua-cam.com/video/979OaDSzBe0/v-deo.html
The band Dr Feelgood defined pub Rock for many people but it went beyond that. Lee and Wilko’s love of blues translated into some of the most exciting Live experiences I’ve ever had. Thanks for taking part. Cheers!
Fair do’s: I’m afraid Iron Maiden weren’t exactly my personal cup of tea! 😀 But I know they were popular in the east London Rock scene. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JimDriver Saw pink floyd at Walthamstow assembly halls, Sabbath at the wake arms Epping, zeppelin at the roundhouse and so many more, fantastic times, its no wonder i'm deaf lol
Thanks for commenting and I C agree they’re all great bands. In my defence, I’d say that this isn’t the BEST Pub Rock bands, it’s the MOST IMPORTANT. Bands that had some kind of influence on the way things went…
I saw the Hot Rods many times, especially during their residency at the Marquee Club. AC/DC took that slot, later... Saw the Pirates, and Nick Lowe, but missed the 101'ers. Never liked the Stranglers, they had some rather partisan supporters. Followed Wilko when he left Dr F, often at the Woolwich Tramshed.
Thanks for sharing those stories. I too was a regular at the Tramshed and once broke my ankle running for a night bus and getting caught in an uncovered hole for a market stall bollard in the square outside! That was late 1980s. Thanks again!
Do you think Stray were an important band on the London pub rock circuit in the 1970s and 1980s? I'll be honest: I don't remember seeing them play in any London pub rock venues TBH…
Working on a Johnny Kidd and the Pirates video now but my contention is that the influence of JK and the Ps was wider than just Pub Rock and this was about PR. Also, as I said elsewhere, Mick Green was forever telling me that the Pirates weren't a Pub Rock band… 😉
I covered the 101ers at length in an other video and I wouldn't describe them as amongst the most important bands of Pub Rock. If they had been, Joe Strummer wouldn't have left them to join the Clash…
Yes, they are! But that's because it's where I was and these videos are really fuelled by my memories and by my experiences at the centre of the Pub Rock world - in London. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching…
Feelgood and the Stranglers I agree with, Ian dury I agree with. The other 2, No way. Must of been great living in London and surrounding area's at the time.
It was my local was the Salisbury hotel Barnet Wednesday night just Google The Resurrection bands like Kevin Ayers, Stray, Hawk wind, Status Quo, Argent, etc etc, and all a short staggering distance across the carpark to my home. Unbelievable ❤
Also the Railway Tavern in New Barnet and The Torrington in North Finchley. The Hot Rods are one of my favourite live bands of all time. Great times back then.
If you accept the usual old boloney that Eggs Over Easy single-handedly started Pub Rock in London: I don't, as another video I made demonstrates: ua-cam.com/video/8aNBywEusbE/v-deo.html
Are you referring to Basil's Balls Up Band? They were certainly big on the London Pub Rock circuit, especially at the Cartoon and elsewhere around Croydon…
Not sure Man fit into this category as they are very well remembered and, under the direction of Martin Ace, still going. But I should do a video about them one day. Thanks for reminding me!
@@JimDriver A three piece rock band lead by Glenn Tipton of Judas Priest fame . In fact he joined them in 1974 . Flying Hat Band were Birmingham based but gigged around the Midlands including Nottingham where I first saw them at The Boat Club around 1972 . Around this time , two of my mates started a rock ' disco ' at an upstairs room at the Plough and Harrow in my local town of Hucknall . It's success encouraged them to get live rock bands in and eventually became a huge small venue success . I recommended the Flying Hat Band and when contacted , came and played there . I spoke to Glenn Tipton after the gig and he thanked me for recommending them ! He suggested us having the little known Judas Priest also play there as he knew them and we did , although I seem to think Rob Halford wasn't fronting them then . Glenn went on to join them obviously but not before playing at the Plough again . We had a lot of new young bands come to play the Plough and as a close knit audience , we had a strategy . Obviously the new bands were sometimes nervous and particularly if it was their first live gig , as many were . The strategy was , after they played their first number , unlike most pub music venues where the clientele just carry on talking amongst themselves and there is just an odd few giving a weak clap , WE all went absolute ape shit ! Screaming and whistling , up on our feet bang on tables the lot ! You could see the amazed looks on the band's faces 😃. And the theory was ..... to give confidence and get the best out of them ! And it always worked !! 😊👍. They would give it their all and we were up on the tables head banging , air guitar , windmilling the lot . The atmosphere was electric mate . Word got out among bands too about this intimate little venue and we had bands contacting US to come and play there ! One such band was called Necromancer , also from Birmingham and probably recommended by FHB or Priest . And when they turned up , they were accompanied by non other than Tony Iommi !! I kid you not ! It was his protégé band !. Other outstanding bands I remember playing were Clear Blue Sky , Barracuda, Scappa Flow , Colin Staple's Blues Band . We even had Budgie and Groundhogs play there ! One particular band from Manchester who played a few times were Stoned Rose and I often wonder if it was they who eventually morphed into Stone Roses 🤔 . So yeah , Flying Hat Band - Glenn Tipton mate 😊👍
Dr.Feelgood, & Eddie & The Hot Rods... Top bands, Miss out The Pirates, Mickey Jupp be in my top 5
Mickey Jupp and The Pirates are both good calls. Thanks!
I answered The Pirates question in an earlier comment (please have a look), but I think Mickey Jupp definitely was an influential and important figure. I didn't include him for two reasons: 1. He did his best to disrupt things rather than move them on (and no harm there, IMO!), and 2. I could only choose 5. Maybe I'll do another Top 5… 😀
Thanks for jogging my memories of this era - it was great to be young and in London back then.
Thanks for watching and for commenting! We were certainly very lucky. Please keep watching. Cheers!
Great list ... How about Graham Parker and the Rumour?
Great minds think alike! Graham Parker and the Rumour is already on my list for a future video. I'm not sure they're actually "forgotten heroes", but they are certainly heroes… Thanks for the kind words - Cheers!
Great list! The Pirates deserve a mention as well
Good call - and thanks for the comment! In my defence, I remember Mick Green telling me once that he didn't really see The Pirates as a "pub band". It made me feel slightly guilty that, at the time the Pirates were about to go on stage for me at The Cricketers, Kennington Oval. He also tried to sell me insurance that night, but that's another story… 😀
I was going to say 'The Pirates' but I thought I'd check first.😂
@@pentapushelden Funny enough, I'm working on a video about The Pirates as we speak!!
Glad I happened onto this channel - one of the best finds ever on the 'tube! Jim isn't just an insider, he's a splendid narrator, as well.
Wow, thanks!m That's very kind of you to say so and welcome aboard!
Ole Whispering Bob in the beginning! I agree Dr Feelgood...epitome of pub rock! Great video! Kilburn +HR just makes you wanna go to your local soak up the suds! Oh man the Brinsley's just sloshing around doing that CSN meets the Band thing...Robinson huge catalyst...this is like Will Birch book! Excellently researched video ya got here. Guildford Stranglers were truly a hybrid band...
Your support means a lot to me. Comments like these motivate me to keep creating content. Cheers!
Tnx! Great list and great inspiration!!!👌
Many thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed it!
I think your top 5 is pretty good, there were some excellent others who I’d like to see get a mention in a top 10, including Plummet Airlines and The Soft Boys, great bands!
Thanks and thanks for the idea! I'm not averse to doing several more "5 Most Important Pub Rock Bands" videos… 😀
@@JimDriver Thanks Jim, I’ve very much enjoyed watching your channel…definitely bringing back some very happy memories..
5:07 Very interesting video. We were briefly on the pub rock circuit in late 1973 / early 1974. One pub we played several times was The Lord Nelson. The other bands appearing regularly there were Feelgoods, Kilburn & The High Roads, Brinsley, Ducks Deluxe and a band called The Winkies. I remember being told that the band that pulled the biggest audiences was The Winkies. And yet you never anything about them. I did a gig with Eddie in 1977 but they were not as far as I know (and Wiki suggests 1975 was their formation date) in existence then. Similarly, I've no recollection of The Stranglers on the circuit when we were. I later in 1977 toured with another band I was in, supporting The Tyla Gang (led by Sean Tyla, ex Ducks Deluxe). Rothko, the 1973/74 band, reunited a few years back and put down some material in the studio as Rothko and Mark Pritchett (Mark had been one of Bowies collaborators c1971-73 and Rothko originally formed to support him on tour, but never did). That material is on the main streaming platforms. The 1977/78 band was VHF. These days as an old geezer I enjoy arranging, producing and a bit of writing, in my home recording studio - I always wanted to do that in the 1970s, couldn't afford then but can in my 70s 😆👍 I do vocals and most instruments except for bass which is usually done by Paul Jenningd, the Rothko bassist from the 1970s. Our stuff is at:
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Hope the years have treated you well - happy days 👍
Thanks for sharing your memories of the pub rock circuit! It's always fascinating to hear about the bands and venues from that era from another perspective. I'll definitely check out Hugh Boy on SoundCloud; thanks for sharing the link!
Duck's Deluxe, ,the greatest Pub Rock Band ever! IMO... shout out for Dr Feelgood too. The 70s Old Grey Whistle Test with Bob Harris/Annie Nightingale RIP. ♥The greatest music show ever!
Totally agree: thanks for taking part!
What about John Ottway? Used to see him in the half moon , Putney. Saw my first Wild West type bar brawl there. Barstools & ashtrays flying at the optics.
Good call! I've booked John Otway literally hundreds of times from the early 1980s but I think you'd be hard-pressed to describe what he did as "important". Wild Willy Barrett was always the writer and innovator when they were together and John has continued to perform those songs to this day. Maybe I should do video about John Otway, the showman?!
@@JimDriver Wild Willy is living in the Southwest nowadays,where I’m living too. Often bumped into WWB and even played some piano with him at a jam session in a Glastonbury pub. I first saw Otway live when he had a guitarist named Robin who sung a vocal refrain on the heartbreak ballad ‘Middle Of Winter’.
The old slogan should be repeated over and over again: Pub rock forever!!!
p.s. The Pirates were the ultimate pub rock, no matter what Mick said! They are on my list for sure. 😜
Indeed, though I think Pub Rock was of its time - and a glorious time it was! 😄
No Graham Parker and the Rumor???
Very glad you gave The Stranglers a mention. I was too young back then to go see them (7 in ‘77!) but been my favourite band since ‘79 and saw them yet again March this year. So much more than a punk band with Dave Greenfield on board.
Great video, cheers.
Ps, Dr Feelgood is a great choice also
Thanks for the kind words. Back in the day, I used to argue with people who said The Stranglers a😄nd The Jam were Punk bands. I'd seen both of them before Punk started and they were both far from Punky back then! Having said that, I was impressed by how back bands developed a new style and incorporated the new music into their material. Happy days… 😄
Excellent choices. I was a little young so was not going to pubs , especially London pubs, but when I got into music aged 14 in '78 Ian Dury, Nick Lowe, Strangers were on my like list. I did not fully appreciate Dr. Feelgood until much later, but then I was a young and quite young looking ( not going to go to a pub or buy drinks under age ) female who was discovering them on the radio. You were fortunate to have seen them in their prime.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video: please keep watching! Cheers!
Great list!
Thanks, Mike, I appreciate it!
There were so many great nights at The Hope and Anchor with Scrumpy upstairs and Dr. Feelgood at Dingwalls.
Happy days, generally! I think everybody has their own favourite venues. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
The Hamsters,
guitar George,he knew all rhe chords?🤣
Great video 👍
Not sure the Hamsters would qualify as they were more derivative than innovative in my opinion. But nice chaps. I recall having a very interesting conversation with Barry about acid reflux at the 100 Club…
Great seeing a picture of our beloved Bridgehouse in Canning Town. The first pub I got into (underaged of course) and saw real live bands. RDB, Dogwatch, The Warm Jets, Rory Gallagher, Q-Tips, Chas and Dave, Girlschool, Filthy McNasty to name just a few. Hot sticky nights, a couple of pints and coming home stinking of other peoples smoke. The good old days.😊
Sounds like you had some incredible memories at the Bridge House! I know I did. Terry Murphy was a powerhouse. It's always amazing to look back on those good old days and remember the great times…
@JimDriver and that was when the music was original not just tribute acts. Those days are gone now it's just more or less impossible to get a live music licence. One complaint from some miserable git about the noise and the council will shut you down. Where I live now in Watford I have still within walking distance three pubs that host live music but apart from the Horns in the high street which has closed and reopened due to public pressure and until recently hosted artists like Wilko the others are 'sixties nights' or ' The Magic Of Mercury'. Not much chance of hearing anything new or groundbreaking. Unfortunately the nights where you saw something new, whether it was good or crap or a talented new artist giving his all in front of a packed house are over. To quote Freddie, "Those were the days of our lives".
Alberto Y Lost Trios Paranoias, I saw them regularly in the mid-1970's at Clarence's in Halifax. Greensleeper, I used to see them regularly around the same time at the Fforde Grene in Leeds. Other notables from Clarence's were Nutz and Brewer's Droop who had a young guy on guitar by the name of Mark Knopfler, I wonder what happened to him?
And who could forget Chilli Willie and the Red Hot Peppers?!
Indeed: Chilli Wilkie were great. But this wasn't about the best but the most important and although they were certainly in contention, I think Mighty Baby would have pipped them at the post…
One of the best concerts I've seen in leytonstone London
I like Tyla Gang a lot. And Kursaal Flyers
@@thomasandersen6719 The Kursaals were great. And the Albertos, of course.
I missed the Count Bishops. They were a kind of link between blues rock and punk, their background was big, blues, rock from the 50s and 60s including garage bands... They also played with bands like The Clash and Motörhead.
The count bishops were genuinely awesome. Whenever I saw them, they took my breath away. Not so sure about Motörhead (never really a fan of Lemmy or loud music of that type) but I get what you're saying! Cheers!
I missed the London Pub Rock scene of the 70’s because I was too young and living in Birmingham. I finally got to live in London from 1987 and saw Wilko Johnson and John Otway at the King’s Head in Fulham and the Half Moon in Putney. I didn’t see the classic Pirates line up Green,Spence & Farley line,until the 90’s-00’s. Being a Brummy, the Steve Gibbons Band were my favourites. By 1981 the classic SGB lineup had broken up but they solidified again with Brendon Day,Jock Evans,P.J Wright and Brian Badhams and often played London when I was living there. SGB’s two incendiary cuts of ‘Johnny Cool’ & ‘Speed Kills’ are on the Live At The Hope And Anchor double album. Lew Lewis Reformer appeared on another H&A live album and I have their classic ‘Save The Wail’ album. The Blues Band and George Thorogood were getting seen on T.V so it all fed in to the Pub Rock scene.
So, you missed the Pub Rock scene in the 70s but made up for it with a music marathon in the 80s and 90s! Better late than never! And the SGB were truly great back then...
Good selection.
Thanks for saying so! I've made several videos on this theme if you care to check them out… (shameless self-plug) 🤓
The Railway hotel in southend closed recently which was an immense shame as over the last 12 yrs gave birth to some amazing bands such as Virgo intacta, Archimedes, Tuppeny bunters, thomas truax & many others, it was also the place where Wilco johnson often popped in for a quick drink & played many times.
I think it's safe to say that the era of Pub Rock is well and truly over in 2023. Thanks for commenting and for being part of the community!
Really enjoyable video .I guessed the first two and Steve Wright has Do Anything You Wanna Do as the greatest song of all time. Hard to argue with that
Thanks, I appreciate it. Thanks for watching and commenting: great to have you along!
Would be interesting to read about some of the pub venues outside of London. The holy grail for bands in my part of the world was The Market Tavern in Hereford.
Yes, I'd like to see more videos about Pub Rock venues outside London too, but sadly I can't make them as I know nothing about it!!
The Black Swan in Sheffield was very popular
Hare and Hounds in Kings Heath and Fightimg Cocks Moseley was my pub rock scene. Birmingham.
Hi Jim - I'm not sure why (some people say because of punk) but pub rock didn't generally get the traction that the bands doing that circuit deserved and it remained a largely London phenomenon. You tell the story well (and I'm SURE there's lots more to tell!) and you have produced a great top 5 list. It's hard now to believe that a lot of these guys were also working day jobs at the time.
I was working down in Plymouth in those days so heard about the scene through Melody Maker and the OGWT but knew little other than that so I appreciate you filling in the gaps!
Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to comment. Please keep watching - there's lots more to tell… 🤓
You probably know, but Do Anything You Wanna Do was co- written by Ed Hollis, Brother of Talk Talk's Mark Hollis.
Great information. Thanks!
Not too many will disagree with that list. Bees Make Honey. What a band, what optimistic music!
Indeed! I used to love that band. Imagine how thrilled I was when ace BMH guitarist Mick Malloy (who's also a skilful carpenter) turned up to do some woodworking at my house many years later!
Cool!😀👍@@JimDriver
I miss: Chuck Farley, The Monday Band, Mike Fab Gear, The Hampsters and visiting the Grey Horse Kingston, Half Moon Putney and the Almighty Southampton in Surbiton, that pub in Fulham Broadway that I can’t remember the name of …… amongst many others. Enjoying your videos 😊
The Golden Lion Fulham Broadway ?
Sam Chapmon sings some iffy blues - check out "Old Screwdriver" and "Ashtray Taxi" for starters!
Bees make honey were from Scotland ? Willy Finlayson the singer and guitarist went on to form "Writing on the wall" and then in the late 70s "Mealticket" He still plays on Sunday lunchtimes in a pub in Richmond
Pretty sure I didn't say Bees Make Honey were from Scotland, because I know most members (especially the original ones) were Irish and Barry Richardson worked in Oxford Street in the middle of London and sounded pretty English to me. Thanks for commenting and please keep watching!
Great channel.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
My earliest memories of TofTP were of Elvis Costello and Ian Dury.....Music today could do with another pub rock scene.
I quite agree. IMO people moaning that small venues are dying are missing the point: yes, rents and expenses are crippling but the most fundamental problem is that too few people want to go and watch live music. And those that do, don't want to pay!
It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation in that we need good bands for people to want to go out and watch them but to get that…
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment!
Solid top five!
Thanks, I appreciate it. Please keep watching. Cheers!
Ok, The Nashville flyer at 4:24: "101'ers and the Sex Pistols." Did the 101'ers continue without Strummer or was he splitting time between them and The Clash in the very early days? Always thought Mick, Joe, and Paul were already doing their thing when the Pistols were forming and playing their early shows. Anybody have insight here?
I think The 101ers split after Strummer left, I think the drummer played briefly in Public Image.
Strummer left the 101ers for the Clash but did not go back. Clash started playing summer 76 at least a year after the Pistols formed. Richard Dudanski, the 101ers drummer went on to play with the Raincoats, PIL and Basement 5.
Don't forget that a lot of these bands also played the university and college circuit at the same time. I regularly went to see them at Brunel University in Uxbridge, West London, although I was a local lad and not a student. Dr. Feelgood, Eddie & the Hot Rods (with supporting disco - 50p if I remember correctly), The Kusaal Flyers, Burlesque, The Stranglers, The Darts, etc. all featured in the mid seventies with many more major bands. The University Student Union used to regularly visit the local schools to sell tickets to these events.
Yes, indeed and that was where the big paydays were for the Pub Rock bands. People forget that £60-£80 (or whatever) from a gig at the Brecknock or Hope & Anchor divided by 5 or 6 with a roadie and petrol to pay (never mind buying and renewing equipment, strings, skins, etc), didn't go very far. A couple of hundred quid from a college gig helped pay the bills!
When I was social secretary at Chelmsford, we were near enough to London to get our pick of the best bands and not pay the earth for them - for colleges always paid more. Cheers!
@@JimDriverWe did a uni gig supporting The Troggs (who were enjoying a 70s revival following appearance on Bowies 1980 Floor Show) and the student union guy tried not to pay us the agreed fee. Reg and the boys took him to one side and 'explained' they wouldn't be going onstage until/unless we got paid properly. They paid up sharpish after that 😆Musician's United. Happy Days 👍
Great list Jim. I was lucky enough to be in the audience when you put on Chuck Berry at the 100 Club. Why would you not include Nine Below Zero? Amazing set that night in my opinion and an unforgettable gig. Thank you !
Thanks, Rob, I appreciate your continued support over the years! Nine Below Zero were (and are) great, but were they “important” in terms of Pub Rock? I’m not sure they qualify in that department …
Hard to believe it's half a century since I first saw Dr. Feelgood.
At their peak (I'd say 1975-76), the Feelgoods were the absolute best. Having said that, their many line-ups have provided me with pleasure. It wasn't just the Wilko/Brilleaux/Sparks/Figure line-up that shone, there was a special kind of magic that stays with them to this day IMO…
Whispering Bob Harris “ Nice”😂
Haha! “Nice” of you to say so…♥️
How about "Kursaal Flyers"? I watched them fly in Stockholm, 1977... 😎
Yes, they were great and both they and the Hot Rods had fine songwriter Graeme Douglas in their ranks for a while, but I think the Hot Rods pip the flyers for Pub Rock Importance…
Never got to see Feelgood or the Hot Rods. A couple of pub rock bands worth a mention were SALT (Litlle Stevie Smith is still touring now) & Hershey & The 12 bars. The latter played at the old leather bottle in colliers wood regularly on Friday nights. Sometimes Stevie Waller from Manfred Manns Earth Band would guest on lead guitar. That was amazing.
As well as the Feelgoods and Hot Rods, I saw SALT and Hershey and the 12 Bars regularly and enjoyed both, though (in my view) neither had the raw energy - which is what I seemed to crave back then - of the Southend/Canvey bands. Now I'd probably feel differently!
Thanks for commenting!
Your videos are amazing I saw Dr Feelgood in 1975 Hemel Hempstead Pavilion Herts UK Pub Rock first came to My attention by family friend Mike groome Ducks deluxe my first concert was 1969 my step mother Jean son played with Mike groome on Drums They were called The Black tulip went on to be called EVE then Mike joined Ducks deluxe round that time l think we may of crossed paths use to see Screaming Lord stuch Play the Sir George Roby Finsbury Park, keep up the great work cheers 🥂 Steve 💯.
Thanks for your kind comments, Stephen: it's very much appreciated and makes it a pleasure! Glad you were part of everything with me "back in the day". I reeally feel sorry for those who missed it. Cheers!
@@JimDriver Very true Jim l also saw many times 9 Below zero in the early 80s didn't liked them when they became The Truth l thought they were a poor man's Jam owing to the fact the jam had split up The sir George Roby Finsbury Park what a great venue used to see The Groundhogs Play there on a Saturday night Late 80s anther great Pub Rock band were The Blues Band anyway thanks 🙏 again.
You seem to have omitted a band called the Pirates from the list Jim? Led by the late, great Mick Green ( from whom Wilco Johnson derived his cutting lead/rhythm style) this was the band that, as a support, destroyed Eddie and The Hot Rods, with their devastating, menacing power. One journalist who witnessed the Hot Rod’s destruction commented:
‘Never follow the Pirates’
Sadly only bassist Johnny Spence is still with us. RIP Mick and Drummer Frank Farley. Check em out!
Regards John D
Hello John! I did a video about the Pirates, so it might have been a bit OTT to include them in that particular list as well! Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
Johnny Kidd And The Pirates: British Rock Pioneers
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Ah my apologies Jim. I haven’t seen that one yet.
The Pirates were a marvellous bunch of guys - and great company.
I had been a fan for many years and it was an honour to finally meet them. As a young bass player, I was mightily impressed by their economical, powerful sound.
Mick was relaxed, cool with a wonderfully dry wit that could be as cutting as his choppy guitar chords.
Keep well and have a great Christmas!
John
@@johndaniel4597 Thanks! Merry Christmas to ypu topo, John!
I agree with your choice of Dr Feelgood. I also vote in Tommy and The Hot Rocks.
Good call! Thanks for taking part!
@@JimDriver ua-cam.com/video/U1Z9XKHfHuo/v-deo.html I stood in on bass on a tour of the Netherlands.
Great top 5 or 6 with the Stranglers. I’m just wondering why you titled the video Top Pub Band of the 70s & & 80s when all these bands had stopped gigging in pubs by the 80s 🤔
Thanks! It has that title to differentiate the era of Pub Rock and to get people to watch it And just because a band doesn't play pubs any more doesn't mean it's not a Pub Rock band! Cheers!
Yep...agree with that list...
Especially as I used to live on Canvey 😊
Have you seen the Feelgoods film...
"Oil City Confidential" ?
Great film!
Yes I have, it was great! But I do have mixed feelings about it, as I was working with Wilko at the time and I saw how he changed as his fame grew. Contrary to myth, Wilko always hated playing in small venues like pubs and the 100 Club and he longed to return to the big open stages he played at the height of his fame. As his stature grew - he got the Game of Thrones gig on the day he played a show for me at the 100 Club - he started to distance himself from those of us who'd worked with him during the "lean years" and inserted first a "manager" then an agent between us. Interesting times…
Great site
Thanks: appreciate it!
North End Boogie Band whom, I believe, hailed from Fulham. It was rumoured that some of their more ardent fans would steal a car in Fulham, drive it to the band's gig, then steal another car near the gig to get home, The great drummer Simon Phillips guested with them once or twice
A lot of strange things happened back then, and I should know 😉
Have to say my No 1 was Scarecrow who I saw regularly at The Thomas a' Beckett and the Lord Nelson in Holloway! Heavy rock/Prog with a touch of Jethro Tull.Great times a long long time ago.
Sorry that we disagree about Scarecrow (they always seemed like nice bloke, just not my cup of chai)…
Your choices all good too!
I used to frequent the the Beckett and a mention for Blunderpuss. Good band and the frontman, Laurie, was such a hoot and really comical.
Slow one. They were regulars at The Western Counties, Paddington, The Breaknock and of course at The Bridgehouse. They had 2 tracks recorded there Hero and Hand Shandy, their best song live was "Can I bring you love" which they put out as a single.
Thanks for reminding me. I saw the name about but I don't think I got to see Slow One live. Thanks for telling us about them!
Slowbone?
I think I'll have a hand shandy?
And please don't forget Mickey Jupp!
Absolutely! Micley continues to be a great songwriter, musician and performer. He;s also been known to watch my videos, which is a great honour for me!
Albion agency, Ian Grant, Dai Davies, Derek Savage - people behind the scenes … I’d like to hear more about people like them, without whom…
Indeed! I enjoy talking about the Business side of the music industry back then but unfortunately no one seems to watch those videos. I'll try and include some stuff on the Albion guys(particularly Derek Savage, who I worked with later) in and amongst my other videos.
Cheers!
What about the lurkers seen them in Eric’s in Liverpool !
Saw the Lurkers loads and worked with them occasionally but I'd be hard-pressed to call them one of the 5 most important bands of the time…. Cheers!
@@JimDriver loads of good bands in Liverpool in the 70s best I seen was Graham Parker and the rumour in the poly tech 👍
Plus the ramones in 1980 in the top rank fkn brilliant !
@@JimDriver another good venue in the 70s was digbys in Birkenhead seen the jam there before they became famous !
Stranglers ! Eddie and the hot rods ! No ducks deluxe ,Tyla gang ,bees make honey at least you mentioned the brinsleys. I allways thought that that ‘pub rock’ was a seventies scene and was dead by the eighties. So I beg to differ from you ( I was there at the time, just remember it differently) or and I forgot to mention eggs over easy who were the first but not the best.
I don't know if you've noticed, but this isn't the only video I've done. All those bands are mentioned in other videos. Hope you subscribed and that you'll be watching more. Cheers!
What about The Pirates ?
A really tight 3 piece band
Like a rock and roll version of Motorhead
I agree and I've already done a video on Johnny Kidd and the Pirates that includes the later years. Please feel free to check it out and tell me what you think: ua-cam.com/video/979OaDSzBe0/v-deo.html
Anybody understood what was the pub rock about?
I think I do. 😀 I did a video about my version of it: ua-cam.com/video/pwVycpCyH6Y/v-deo.html
err.. rock n roll in pubs?
Torpedo , usually at the Brecknock in Camden Road
Thanks for reminding me! I never saw Torpedo but I heard they were good…
DR. FEELGOOD were a world class rhythm & blues/rock&roll band. Saw WILKO JOHNSON live in Pula/Croatia, i think it was 1988
The band Dr Feelgood defined pub Rock for many people but it went beyond that.
Lee and Wilko’s love of blues translated into some of the most exciting Live experiences I’ve ever had. Thanks for taking part. Cheers!
Hardly missed: Legend (Mickey Jupp!!!) und The Pirates (Mick Green)!
Thanks for that great comment. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!
I'd add Nine Below Zero, and Q Tips in there.
I feature NBZ in another video.
Not so much the Q Tips, largely because I hardly ever think of them. Perhaps I should: thanks for reminding me!
Where's Basils Balls Up Band?
Sadly, I had to give Basil the brush off… 😀
Boom ,boom . Wasn't the singer a journalist on one of the music papers?
Chili Willy and the Red Hot Peppers? Who else could senselessly link Elvis Costello and The Residents?
Indeed: they had something very special (and two huge stars in the band - at least!). Thanks for commenting!
Around our way we had The Late Road Lunatics and The Chiltern Volcanoes...
Thanks for commenting! Two bands I've never heard of and pretty sure I've not seen. I'll keep an eye out for any footage that may still exist…
@JimDriver The Ommuters were a local band too , with record releases in the 70's.
Iron maiden, saw them every week for years in the Cart & horses Stratford London E15
Fair do’s: I’m afraid Iron Maiden weren’t exactly my personal cup of tea! 😀 But I know they were popular in the east London Rock scene. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JimDriver Saw pink floyd at Walthamstow assembly halls, Sabbath at the wake arms Epping, zeppelin at the roundhouse and so many more, fantastic times, its no wonder i'm deaf lol
Good list - great days. Could you argue that early Dire Straits could be included and to make the list less Essex why not include Alex Harvey.
Yes , indeed! To be honest I’ve made quite a few of these videos (with varying titles) and I appreciate the input. Cheers!
Chilli Willi, Kokomo, Gonzalez, Red Beans & Rice, Balham Alligators
Thanks for commenting and I C agree they’re all great bands. In my defence, I’d say that this isn’t the BEST Pub Rock bands, it’s the MOST IMPORTANT. Bands that had some kind of influence on the way things went…
Stranglers?
Yes?
Duke of Lancaster... new barnet
I saw the Hot Rods many times, especially during their residency at the Marquee Club. AC/DC took that slot, later...
Saw the Pirates, and Nick Lowe, but missed the 101'ers. Never liked the Stranglers, they had some rather partisan supporters. Followed Wilko when he left Dr F, often at the Woolwich Tramshed.
Thanks for sharing those stories. I too was a regular at the Tramshed and once broke my ankle running for a night bus and getting caught in an uncovered hole for a market stall bollard in the square outside! That was late 1980s. Thanks again!
The Moters ...
Great band but not sure they were influential for Pub Rock in London… 😉
What about stray.
Do you think Stray were an important band on the London pub rock circuit in the 1970s and 1980s? I'll be honest: I don't remember seeing them play in any London pub rock venues TBH…
Stray were a fine band who I saw several times but not in a pub as I recall.
Ducks Deluxe
Quack! Quack! I've mentioned them in other videos. But most important? In what way?
Best pub rock band i ever saw was Bashenroot
Not sure I encountered Bashenroot on my travels, sorry!
Slade was the best pub band that I ever saw.
Really? I'll be honest, I never saw Slade playing in a pub. Lucky you!
The Pirates???? dx
Working on a Johnny Kidd and the Pirates video now but my contention is that the influence of JK and the Ps was wider than just Pub Rock and this was about PR. Also, as I said elsewhere, Mick Green was forever telling me that the Pirates weren't a Pub Rock band… 😉
Roogalator?
I did feature Danny Adler and Roogalator in another video: 5 More Forgotten Pub Rock Bands (That Were Great!)
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The 101ers
I covered the 101ers at length in an other video and I wouldn't describe them as amongst the most important bands of Pub Rock. If they had been, Joe Strummer wouldn't have left them to join the Clash…
I agree mostly , but it is very London centric .
Yes, they are! But that's because it's where I was and these videos are really fuelled by my memories and by my experiences at the centre of the Pub Rock world - in London. Thanks for taking part and please keep watching…
The count Bishops
Cheers! I do mention the Count Bishops in other videos…
No Help Yourself?
I've made quite a few videos about Pub Rock now and Help Yourself do get quite a few mentions. Please keep watching. Cheers!
Pirates dr feelgood
Eddie and the Hot Rods, Brinsley Schwarz...
The Palladinos!
Yes, they were good but were they really IMPORTANT in the scheme of things? Not so sure…
@@JimDriver probably not, Angelo is a fine solo artist these days
@@JimDriver ...so many great little venues, gentrified or knocked down, we were so lucky
Feelgood and the Stranglers I agree with, Ian dury I agree with. The other 2, No way. Must of been great living in London and surrounding area's at the time.
Indeed it was. Even at the time, I felt so lucky to be right at the centre of it all…
I remember seeing Stranglers very early on at Hope and Anchor. Me and the only other guy there agreed they were crap!
It was my local was the Salisbury hotel Barnet Wednesday night just Google The Resurrection bands like Kevin Ayers, Stray, Hawk wind, Status Quo, Argent, etc etc, and all a short staggering distance across the carpark to my home. Unbelievable ❤
Also the Railway Tavern in New Barnet and The Torrington in North Finchley. The Hot Rods are one of my favourite live bands of all time. Great times back then.
@@nigelbailey4704 Did you see the stranglers at the railway after they got banned for inciting a riot they played under a different name. Great times
Eggs Over Easy?
If you accept the usual old boloney that Eggs Over Easy single-handedly started Pub Rock in London: I don't, as another video I made demonstrates: ua-cam.com/video/8aNBywEusbE/v-deo.html
Without Eddie and the Hot Rods, punk wouldn't have happened???
Absolute balls!
Are you referring to Basil's Balls Up Band? They were certainly big on the London Pub Rock circuit, especially at the Cartoon and elsewhere around Croydon…
How about the toast of Wales …Man?
Not sure Man fit into this category as they are very well remembered and, under the direction of Martin Ace, still going. But I should do a video about them one day. Thanks for reminding me!
@@JimDriver Christmas At The Patti is a stonking compilation album!
Seasonal too!!😂 🎅🎄
Dave Savage let himself go.
Lol, Dave Savage really needs to hit the gym ASAP! By the way, who is Dave Savage?
Cheers and thanks for watching!
Flying Hat Band .
I don’t think I came across them - please enlighten me. Cheers!
@@JimDriver A three piece rock band lead by Glenn Tipton of Judas Priest fame . In fact he joined them in 1974 . Flying Hat Band were Birmingham based but gigged around the Midlands including Nottingham where I first saw them at The Boat Club around 1972 . Around this time , two of my mates started a rock ' disco ' at an upstairs room at the Plough and Harrow in my local town of Hucknall . It's success encouraged them to get live rock bands in and eventually became a huge small venue success . I recommended the Flying Hat Band and when contacted , came and played there . I spoke to Glenn Tipton after the gig and he thanked me for recommending them ! He suggested us having the little known Judas Priest also play there as he knew them and we did , although I seem to think Rob Halford wasn't fronting them then . Glenn went on to join them obviously but not before playing at the Plough again . We had a lot of new young bands come to play the Plough and as a close knit audience , we had a strategy . Obviously the new bands were sometimes nervous and particularly if it was their first live gig , as many were . The strategy was , after they played their first number , unlike most pub music venues where the clientele just carry on talking amongst themselves and there is just an odd few giving a weak clap , WE all went absolute ape shit ! Screaming and whistling , up on our feet bang on tables the lot !
You could see the amazed looks on the band's faces 😃. And the theory was ..... to give confidence and get the best out of them ! And it always worked !! 😊👍. They would give it their all and we were up on the tables head banging , air guitar , windmilling the lot . The atmosphere was electric mate .
Word got out among bands too about this intimate little venue and we had bands contacting US to come and play there !
One such band was called Necromancer , also from Birmingham and probably recommended by FHB or Priest . And when they turned up , they were accompanied by non other than Tony Iommi !! I kid you not ! It was his protégé band !.
Other outstanding bands I remember playing were Clear Blue Sky , Barracuda, Scappa Flow , Colin Staple's Blues Band . We even had Budgie and Groundhogs play there !
One particular band from Manchester who played a few times were Stoned Rose and I often wonder if it was they who eventually morphed into Stone Roses 🤔 .
So yeah , Flying Hat Band - Glenn Tipton mate 😊👍
Be bop delux
Pirates
Yo ho ho! Hopefully, you will have watched my other videos that mention The Pirates…
RUBBISH
No, I never rated Rubbish. They were way too jazzy for me… 😀