I've bought two of them on ebay in the last few years. Gave around $350 after shipping for each of them. One had undersized t-slots. T-slots on the other were not parallel to the ram or one another. Wasn't hard to correct either. Using tnuts mad3 for the 3/8 size slots with 5/16-18 threads, Teco 41403 are the ones I bought that fit.
I'm jealous, I've been looking for one of those since I saw one on "Emma's Spareroom Machineshop" Channel. For us model builders, that's the tool to have. Not only can you square material and cut flats but you can also cut keyways and make dovetails. All of which is very labor intensive for us small scale users.
Some vertical milling machines had a slotting head as accessory, specifically for doing keyways and so forth. Essentially it made the milling machine into a vertical shaper.
I just have realized that my dad had one of these! the clapper box is missing, someone broke it off before my dad got it, but now we have some full sized machines to bring back to work that bad boy:)
🙂 Actually Rob, given the length of the lever which operates the ram there is very little effort involved. I'm going to have to stop watching all these great channels by people like Dave Richards, Keith Rucker and Lyle Peterson, you see all the amazing machines they have in their shops and think, i'd really like one of those! Cheers, Alan.
@@RetroSteamTech Sheer indulgence Alan. He He. What a way to go. Nice pick up. I will have to keep an eye open for one of these. Looks like it would be good for cutting gear splines. Cheers Rob
"GREEN WITH ENVY" doesn't even come close, your clocks banging away nicely in my headphone. I'd love a shaper, even if I only used it once for a keyway!
Hi Cliff. Yes the clock is running really well, as you can hear! I couldn't believe it when i went looking for one of these on ebay and found one almost straight away and the guy was willing to post it! I love it as you can probably guess. If i have any small filing jobs now i tend to use the shaper just because i enjoy using it 🙂 Cheers, Alan.
@@CliffsShed Cliff, to give you some idea, i paid £142 for the Adept. I think the Perfecto is slightly bigger with a 5" stroke. Also it has the auto cross feed mechanism, so it will probably fetch a bit more than what i paid. On the other hand there can't be many people out there like us that are interested in these, it's kind of a specialist market. Cheers, Alan.
I have a similar no1 shaper that has been modified. I do not know how to post a video on youtube at the moment but when I learn how I will post it. It would be well worth copying because it works a treat.
They are although I wish I had enough room for a powered shaper. I'm very grateful to people like your good self and Mr Pete who keep me happy with your shaper videos. Cheers, Alan.
@@RetroSteamTech glad to hear it. Surely you have seen some of rustinox and Abom79 shaper videos as well. If not they are well worth checking out. Oh and I think there's shaper andi
@@craigtate5930 Adam's stuff is a little on the large side for me. Rustinox videos are great, I just like the basic stuff like Mr Pete does and your stuff 👍
Not at all. Back in June of 2019 this was £142 plus shipping from ebay. They are fairly rare so I guess the value depends upon how many people are looking for one at any given time.
Very Interesting. By coincidence, I've recently been reading back issues of Model Engineer, from the 1930s. In this age of impoverishment, the sequence of acquisition of tools seems to be standardised at: Drill Press Lathe (the king tool) Vertical slide for Milling in the lathe (manual) Shaper There is pretty well no notion that a mill is a neccesary tool (although desirable). I freely admit to not understanding this, and would very much welcome any insights that occur to you as you use your shaper.
Hi Paul. I think in those days the manual shaper was a much cheaper alternative to a mill. I'm fascinated by shapers and am very lucky to now have one however i don't believe that it could ever be as useful as a mill. I intend to post further videos when suitable jobs for the shaper crop up. Cheers, Alan.
Very nice shaper
That is a great little piece of kit , i want one , Cheers Ade.
The nice thing about them Ade is that they are quite small, ideal if you have a tiny workshop like mine.
Cheers, Alan.
I've bought two of them on ebay in the last few years. Gave around $350 after shipping for each of them. One had undersized t-slots. T-slots on the other were not parallel to the ram or one another. Wasn't hard to correct either. Using tnuts mad3 for the 3/8 size slots with 5/16-18 threads, Teco 41403 are the ones I bought that fit.
I'm jealous, I've been looking for one of those since I saw one on "Emma's Spareroom Machineshop" Channel. For us model builders, that's the tool to have. Not only can you square material and cut flats but you can also cut keyways and make dovetails. All of which is very labor intensive for us small scale users.
They do turn up on ebay from time to time.
So do you file
Some vertical milling machines had a slotting head as accessory, specifically for doing keyways and so forth. Essentially it made the milling machine into a vertical shaper.
'twould be great for keyways in pulleys etc.
I just have realized that my dad had one of these! the clapper box is missing, someone broke it off before my dad got it, but now we have some full sized machines to bring back to work that bad boy:)
They are really great little machines. Glad you will be able to bring your Dad's one back to life.
Alan,
What a great bit if kit... I'll be searching for one now.
Take care
Paul,,
Hi Paul. Yes they are good and they do come up on ebay now and again. Cheers, Alan.
Very interesting Alan. Not many people have those I expect. Not me. Who needs gym equipment when you have one of these ;)
Cheers Rob
🙂 Actually Rob, given the length of the lever which operates the ram there is very little effort involved. I'm going to have to stop watching all these great channels by people like Dave Richards, Keith Rucker and Lyle Peterson, you see all the amazing machines they have in their shops and think, i'd really like one of those!
Cheers, Alan.
@@RetroSteamTech Sheer indulgence Alan. He He. What a way to go. Nice pick up. I will have to keep an eye open for one of these. Looks like it would be good for cutting gear splines. Cheers Rob
@@Xynudu Thanks Rob. I certainly intend to use it, should come in very handy for me as i don't have a mill. Cheers, Alan.
@@Xynudu time to make more room in the shed ? www.grays.com/lot/0018-9023770/metalworking-and-fabrication/alba-45-metal-shaper
"GREEN WITH ENVY" doesn't even come close, your clocks banging away nicely in my headphone. I'd love a shaper, even if I only used it once for a keyway!
Hi Cliff. Yes the clock is running really well, as you can hear! I couldn't believe it when i went looking for one of these on ebay and found one almost straight away and the guy was willing to post it! I love it as you can probably guess. If i have any small filing jobs now i tend to use the shaper just because i enjoy using it 🙂
Cheers, Alan.
@@RetroSteamTech I will be on the lookout for one, probably for the next ten years!
@@CliffsShed There is a Perfecto Shaper on ebay at the moment 😉👍
@@RetroSteamTech saw it, on my watch list, how much would you think it might make?
@@CliffsShed Cliff, to give you some idea, i paid £142 for the Adept. I think the Perfecto is slightly bigger with a 5" stroke. Also it has the auto cross feed mechanism, so it will probably fetch a bit more than what i paid. On the other hand there can't be many people out there like us that are interested in these, it's kind of a specialist market.
Cheers, Alan.
I have a similar no1 shaper that has been modified. I do not know how to post a video on youtube at the moment but when I learn how I will post it. It would be well worth copying because it works a treat.
Hi Bob. Let me know when you get that video up as I would like to see it. Cheers, Alan.
Cool lil machines
They are although I wish I had enough room for a powered shaper. I'm very grateful to people like your good self and Mr Pete who keep me happy with your shaper videos. Cheers, Alan.
@@RetroSteamTech glad to hear it. Surely you have seen some of rustinox and Abom79 shaper videos as well. If not they are well worth checking out. Oh and I think there's shaper andi
@@craigtate5930 Adam's stuff is a little on the large side for me. Rustinox videos are great, I just like the basic stuff like Mr Pete does and your stuff 👍
Thanks for the video. The price of these shapers has just doubled.
I have just bought an Adept No 1 which has been modified.
Very nice video - well done. Just out of interest, where do you buy your big blocks of aluminium from? All the online suppliers seem overpriced.
Thanks. I usually get my aluminium from ebay but just recently I built a small furnace and have tried casting my own from scrap.
If you don't mind me asking, how much do these small shapers cost ?
Not at all. Back in June of 2019 this was £142 plus shipping from ebay. They are fairly rare so I guess the value depends upon how many people are looking for one at any given time.
Going to be great for your muscles :)
Problem is Jim, you'd end up with one arm a lot bigger than the other one 😂
@@RetroSteamTech Very impressive tool. I'd love it!
Very Interesting.
By coincidence, I've recently been reading back issues of Model Engineer, from the 1930s.
In this age of impoverishment, the sequence of acquisition of tools seems to be standardised at:
Drill Press
Lathe (the king tool)
Vertical slide for Milling in the lathe
(manual) Shaper
There is pretty well no notion that a mill is a neccesary tool (although desirable).
I freely admit to not understanding this, and would very much welcome any insights that occur to you as you use your shaper.
Hi Paul. I think in those days the manual shaper was a much cheaper alternative to a mill. I'm fascinated by shapers and am very lucky to now have one however i don't believe that it could ever be as useful as a mill. I intend to post further videos when suitable jobs for the shaper crop up. Cheers, Alan.