Why will Poland have the 2nd biggest cruise missile arsenal in NATO?
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Poland recently requested the purchase of over 800 of the newest US JASSM cruise missiles. The US State Department approved it. This video explains what sort of missile Poland is buying, when might Poland get those missiles and why are those missiles a big deal. Plus, how the said purchase gets Poland to the point where it’s gonna have the second-biggest cruise missile arsenal in NATO, trailing only the US.
00:00 Intro to topic
02:24 B-2 variant controversy
05:33 Why is JASSM a big deal?
08:42 Possible JASSM use
11:03 Costs and deliveries
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Don't forget, Poland purchased 45 long-range ATACMS missiles last year.
@@commandostryker304Since when is China a NATO member? 😂😂😂
Poland bought in 2014 40 AGM-158A JASSM the oldest version + 70 ER as you mentioned, so add 40
I didn't yet watch video. But I must address this. As there is a lot of misconceptions about 500 HIMARS meme. The launchers are themselves irrelevant. Poland actually need replace a lot of short range missile launchers of Grad standard. And because HIMARS is modular, the idea was to use them primarily for Polish made Feniks-Z 122 mm missiles. And have also option to fire GMLRS and ATACMS from any of those trucks. Because agreement with US was not yet signed, alternative deal was made with South Korea. What agree on such option. What also allow Poland to use South Korean missiles on different launcher (as US refused compatibility deal with them in the past). Depending on negotiation result, the exact proportions of Homar-A and Homar-K would be decided in future.
@@TheRezro But the deal with South Korea was also production of missiles in Poland.
Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱❤️✌🏻 Freedom & peace to you all!
Never again war. War is hell.
If only 10% of humans would seriously care about peace...
Chcesz pokoju szykuj się na wojnę
Why?
Because Russia.
End.
As a German and thus immediate neighbour to Poland, this news actually makes me feel safer.😊
You do know u guys have usa fielded nukes while poland doesn't...
Europeans have come from men like Hitler to this 🤦
That's exactly the point. The Poles know you're propaganda against Russia is now working against you and you're scaring yourselves over a threat that doesn't exist. They're getting in on the power broker game cause they know if they make themselves out to be the bulwark against the big bad scary Russians they'll get the kind of dividends that were reserved for countries like South Korea, Israel, Egypt, and Turkey. So your pampered European keister can sleep soundly.
You support Hitler?!🤦♂️@@off_grid_javelin
You. As german dont have to apologise me a polish man. We are friends. Our graandparents keep saying that to us, for non reason... They are old.
@@rafalkamiski7373 ah, yes. True.
Now, we stand together ensuring that each can live like they want to.
You know the meme "We can't expect God to do all the work", that's Poland today.
It should be "An omni impotent "God" does nothing", The Polish has learned since WW2 and the Warsaw Pact. They know what sociopats in RuZZia they are dealing with.
Now the can give any attacker a bloody nose the very first day.
More like: "These idiots are scared ****less of Russia. We need to make ourselves into the supposed 'bulwark' and we'll get preferential treatment the second the Ukrainian regime kicks the bucket!"
Kremlin troll farm went wild in this comment section. "Send our best man to youtube comment right now" ~ some Russian
Russian propaganda, everything is trolled by trolls from Russia that they are supposed to be the only good one :) and after the war in Ukraine we see that they are weak and will lose, just like in Afghanistan, it's only a matter of time
Better then Bidens troll supporting genocide!
@@RobertGrabarczykbraindead pshek speak about russian propaganda , im dead 😂😂😂😂
@@greshnik2705 2 more weeks cumrade
@@greshnik2705 The USA is simply using the ambitious but stupid Poles... to make money and possibly a new Ukraine in the fight against Russia
Russia doesn’t care how many states it devastates
Can we Poles afford all this?
It does not matter.
How much does freedom cost? Recently, when we lost our freedom, we paid for 200 years with blood, resources and the drained minds of subsequent generations - what are these several dozen billion dollars compared to such a price?
Considering how Poland has been beat up during the last century (and further back too) I dont blame them for wanting to build up their military power. Go Poland!
True that, when you live between two biggest assholes in the world you need to step up a little bit:)
Poland defeated Bolsheviks (Soviet Russia) in 1920 so let's not say we're always losing. I don't remember Poland ever losing a war against only one enemy. All loses were against joined forces like Germany and Russia from both sides in 1939 or partition by 3 superpowers starting from 1772.
Also in Vienna 1683 Poland basically saved Europe from Islam when Hussars arrived to saved the battle.
Poland has never lost a war unless it was attacked by multiple opponents at once.
But did you know that Poland has won most of the wars in its over 1,000-year history?
Russian bots trying to cope in the comments thanks to St Petersburg being nicely in range from Polish airspace ;)
Ok John 😂
@@JesusOrDestruction yeah calm down ruzzian troll, replying to every comment here 🙄
@@johnriddington9514you should take your own advice 🤡
Maybe Russia should stop invading other countries @@tomvlodek6377 shut up tankie
@@tomvlodek6377
Hey Ivan, how come one minute Russia is under threat from NATO and needs to invade it's smaller, weaker neighbours because big bad NATO, yet the next mighty Russia can conquer all without breaking a sweat due to the decadent and weak NATO?
Anyone might think the poison dwarf and his washing machine stealing army are nothing more than bully boys who talk tough, but would get a proper pasting should they try it on with those who have more sophisticated armed forces...
Go, Poland!
Half I am Polish, my family survived World War 2, no one helped us, we were under occupation, first by the Germans, then by the Russians, we achieved independence and freedom on our own, no more occupations and wars
Now you are occupied by the USA... what difference does it make to you?
You write in English, not Polish
A slave does not dream of freedom, he dreams of his slaves
Russia saved you, you wouldn't even exist today without their gigantic sacrifice to defeat the germans who would have slaughtered you all.
And when it comes to the time afterwards: say thanks to NATO, which was created by US fascism to continue 2.WW.
Russia wanted peace, instead NATO brought war and by that Russia couldn't just retreat one-sided for serveral decades.
When it eventually could, your corrupt politicians sold you out to western fascism for nothing. Congrats.
If Russia would have wanted Poland, it would never hat let you go.
It never cared. The peaceful disolving of the USSR is 100% proof for that and that NATO didn't do the same but instead marched eastward is proof for its fascistic aggression.
Without the nukes, the USA would have already sent you as cannonfodder eastwards, just was it had done with the german Nazis, the USA had supported even during the war, including during the attack on Poland that was stopped by the USSR. the USA only went in for the looting, when their Nazis had learly lost. Not to finisht of the Nazis, but to save them and keep the majority of them in power, integrated into NATO and of course to take over Europe, which even today is the USA's little b****.
MIC: Would you like to buy.....
Poland: Yes.
MIC: I havent said what im s....
Poland: Take my money!
MIC: ok, but...
Poland: More!
The Poles don't want to be occupied by the ruzzians again,I don't blame them for wanting to have a military strong enough to stop them without anyone else's help,what else are they going to do the ruzzians only understand force.
Truthfully, Poland just plainly don't want any Russ smell around them. I personally don't give an "F". You have no clue how some folks feel.
Poland spending about 4% on its military.
Poland is showing NATO how it's done.
Yup. Everyone else needs to step up and pay their fair share
That's why despite believing the US should leave NATO, I also believe that we should continue to support Poland in whatever way we can.
@@randomlyentertaining8287That will only help Russia and China.
Meanwhile germany approved 100billion funding to rearm their military back in 2021, 3 years later only 1,5billion of that has been spent and the other 98.5billions are being debated tabout to where it should go. Its disgusting how all the countries bordering russia takes it seriously but others arent doing jack shit
@@randomlyentertaining8287NATO is garbage
Moscow in range.
Just try 😉
@@greshnik2705lol even Ukrainian garage made drones had no problem reaching Moscow, try your luck with jasm 😂
We won't but if u even think about it you will get spanked :))@@greshnik2705
Respect from Spain. They've every right for their defense, in fact they're one of the few countries to meet NATO's defense budget's targets
They exceed it by far! 5+%
But nowadays, everybody in Nato is about to hit the 2% mark, isn't it?
Because Poland will never again allow themselves to be a "speed bump" in any European war ever again.
God bless them, they are drawing a line in the sand and saying 'not one more step'.
Yeah having Ukrainian oligarchs import Russian grain and then selling it to the poles is a sign of polish wisdom 😂
Were in the hell are you getting THIS idea from?@@rokadaprliinnysystemyaczno4761
@@rokadaprliinnysystemyaczno4761 what ever Ivan, but you will advance no further west
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Russia has as much chance of conquering Poland as Britain does of rebuilding it's empire in India. Wake up, this is the 21st century not the 19th !
The polls will never forget what happened to them. They're not fools..
Yeah they shouldnt forget germans and swedes
@@sinisadabic5371 haha, troll
Ahhh, beautiful Poland! Europe's Little Texas, America loves you so!!!
Canada does too!
God Bless America, love from Poland
i dont know about texas since "Demilitarized" germans own more guns on average than us poles
Poland will also have 48 FA-50 light attack craft that have enough power weapon load capacity to carry JASM missiles, so there is always an option to adapt these aircraft to launch cruise missiles as well.
I wish my country was doing the same. We are one of the richest countries in the world without using a fraction of our resources ,just up north, If we develop our natural gas, oil ,diamond, and gold, we would be by far the richest country per GDP. America develops every inch of their natural resources, and so does Russia.But that's the only thing Russia has for their economy. America's got other things, and so do we .We just have 10% of America's population, but our quality of life, according to the UN, is far better than America. America is the best country in the world, if you're rich. But I just heard the California government is putting minimum wage up to $20 an hour. If that's true, I have great respect for him. And your crime will go down because no one's going to work for peanuts and have nothing. So your taxes will actually go down. Because people cry about paying more for their fast food. I would move there now. And I still don't like your healthcare system ,but I hate the cold,and I make more than $20 an hour But t I'd take a pay cut. My company is actually from America , so I wonder if I could transfer to Los Angeles. That would be awesome as long as I'm making at least $20 an hour. Because I saw a lot of TV shows, you guys pay $350 or more a month for health insurance that's crazy.
Love from Poland 🇵🇱🇵🇱
And returning to my previous words, Poles will never again make the mistake of counting on allies, we will be strong, defending ourselves, you want peace, get ready for war, this is our Moto God, honor, homeland
bullshit
weź nie rób siary, bez usa jesteśmy niczym
bez przemysłu sojuszników prawie nic nie mamy + kupujemy więcej niż nas stać a że dla gospodarki zawsze lepiej jak broń kupuje się w swoim przemyśle a my robimy na odwrót to bardzo źle
@@KlusekPospolity MYŚLENIE NOWEGO POKOLENIA
Poland is stocking up on himars too
Smart poles. The last thing you want is being caught lightly armed when one of your neighbors tries to save you from what they'll do in case you don't allow them to save you.
Actually, the Polish general asked about the cruise missile range has said "let's just say that it can fly 1000km." In my opinion, he didn't want to tell the real number.
Absolutely... The US keeps the max range on everything highly classified because that makes it impossible for enemies to space infrastructure properly in wartime.
Whenever the US tells you the range of something currently in service, they are lying and it is actually longer.
details are classified as always:
-1.4(a) military plans, weapons systems, or operations;
-1.4(b) foreign government information;
-1.4(d) foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States, including confidential sources;
-1.4(h) the development, production, or use of weapons
As long as Moscow is well within range!
@bschneidez I agree, and Russia does the opposite. they claim their weapons are far superior than they actually are. That's the only thing they are good at ,is propaganda on the internet so many Russian Bots. And I have nothing against the Russian people. Obviously, there's good and bad in every race, country. and that's the truth. Even my people Native American, we were treated very badly, but there's bad in every culture. At least North America admits to it. Half of the Russians are not native white, only the western part. People in Africa and even North America do not realize that their natives look just like the natives in North America. that's why I guarantee that in the future, china is already more advanced in some ways. A good part of Russia will be long to China. Because of Putin, and just to put this out there anyone can look it up especially for the people in Africa that Russia speaks propaganda too, there's more racist white people in Russia than any majority white country in the world.
2 billion $ for almost 1000 missiles, is pretty affordable
The J's have completely colonized your mind.
@@Soldier_ov_Satan Bruh
@@Soldier_ov_Satan the jihadis?
Respect from Latvia !
US and Poland did test a drop platform for JASSM for C130 (Rapid Dragon) in four and six-pack's.
I am into the opinion that Poland and Spain must together make a joint effort to develop nuclear warheads to arm their cruise missiles. Spain and Poland will use them aboard fighter bombers and a special A-400M launch systems, and Spain also in a modified submarine launch capable S-80+ class submarine based. Those systems will be a real deterrent way to stop any intention of russian attack for Poland and a Morocco attack for Spain.
Is Morocco threatening Spain? I think Spain is a highly capable country that can stop Moroccan invasion without much difficulty right? But anyway, I very much support Spanish-Polish alliance. I've always admired Spain, Spanish people and Spanish culture since the day I was born. A lot of similarities between the two countries and souls. Long live Spain and the Spanish people!
You want to use Poland as proxy
I do not understand people like Putin ,we all have to die .If he had tried to be friends, with the West, and even become part of NATO. he would have been remembered as one of the greatest leaders of Russia .Because it's China that's going to be taking over parts of Russia in the future, not the West. And he just made sure the average Russians are going to be much poorer in the future .their propaganda going on about how well their economy is doing. If they lie about everything else, they're most likely lying about their economy. They cut so much money in healthcare and other areas. Obviously, them no longer have a job. You don't hear any reporting on that in their state own media about that.
@@Matt-rw9py I mean looking at immigrantion issue in Spain i can see why they would look hostile towards morocco that helps smuggle those people
Słychać wycie? Znakomicie ;)
I’m glad to see Poland transforming right before our eyes into a great military power great job fellow nato brothers happy anniversary
Poland can not statistically win a war effectively
@@cideltacommand7169 trying to sound smart by using those words?
@@Just_A_Random_Desk wait what did I say, yt dosent show me my own comment
@@cideltacommand7169 i forgot too 💀
1. The Polish military practiced the use of Rapid Dragon, a system for the massive use of JASSM by transport aircraft.
2. We will use artillery and rocket artillery, not JASSM, to level Królewiec.
Mam nadzieję że Królewiec nie będzie brać udziału w żadnym evencie
Historically it's pretty standard for US weapons to see more frequent upgrades than European weapons.
The "ASTER" SAM system was developed specifically to not be updated as frequently as the US likes. The program started after the US stopped all development and support of the SM-1 missile.
Poland also has AGM-158A JASSM
Hopefully Poland has been given some manufacturing offsets in buying such a large order. The point about airfield survivability due to the proximity of Russia to Polish airfields means that an alternative to air launched JASSAMS would be a benefit. Ground launch JASSAMS has been discussed in the US.
Tbh when such big contracts come through, I would hope that buyer at least thinks about buying a share in the company that produces the stuff, thus allowing a small return on investment AND potential licensed production in the future
Thank you for this video
Poles will always remember and they are gearing up today as 1930.
You are forgetting the cheap mass produced FA-50 that would likely do the cruise missile intercepts and ground attack freeing up F-35 for its intended missions of deep strikes.
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B2 variant?
The US MIC really needs to have something similar to the actors' register, where they can't use an existing name.
I present in evidence the *M1* and the *Bushmaster.*
Go on, identify both pieces of equipment from those designations. ....
Uhh, which one
This is not 800 missiles ordered. It is allowance by US Govt. to buy up to 800 missiles.
The state department approved for negotiations to begin between the manufacturer and Poland for up to 800 missiles - no contract signed yet, this is one of many steps that come before a contract gets signed. A few weeks after the State Department press release, the US Senate approved the sale too. It's easy for the average person to get tricked into thinking a deal's been made - until they sign a contract, it's just a step in the process.
Don't forget Rapid Dragon - Palletized airdrop standoff missile - a multiple AGM-158 (JASSM) launcher module to be airdropped by C-130 or C-17 cargo planes as a low cost method of rapidly providing a surge of mass fired JASSMs using unmodified airlift assets. Up to 9 standoff missiles from a single airdrop pallet. Poland express interest in that too.
Poland is just far enough away to not be affected by the nuclear missiles that will land in Russia.
Poland is part of NATO, Russia will send gifts to it too
It’s rather sad that Poland is spending so much on weaponry. Obviously this is at the cost of other problems. It seems that Poland is absorbing the financial costs for Europe’s security because it’s closest to Russia. Germany and France need to step up.
Well this is what happens when you think that no war in Europe can accure for 30 years and now you have "oh shit" moment. At least Poland start to rearm in 2014, only now with warp speed.
well they have been sucking the EU tit dry for long enough.. let them contribute something to Europe
dont be so sure, Poland wasted over 30 years with minimal budget on military meantime growing rich enough to do it quickly when those orks attacked crimea in 2014, after 2022 and our miliary help to Ukraine we have our eyes open wide, we just lack some things that were sent, what worries me is general lack of ammunition everywhere...
In the words of Radek Sikorski “we’ll rather eat grass then become a Russian colony again”. He’s Polish. I’m Polish. We really live by this motto.
What the westerners don’t understand is that russians are willing to sacrifice EVERY PIECE OF COMFORT they still may have (though most of them are living in really bad conditions) just to feel that the West is afraid of them. That’s their coping mechanism. You need to understand, that they’re living in day to day gloom and misery, so every tiniest piece of pride is worth their last micron of comfort.
Thats more dangerous than the entire russian nuclear arsenal.
We (the UK) also need to step up
"We will remain on the world map, even if it is the last map in human history" 😎
Let say, we have an experience.. 45 wars with russia and we're still here.
Thanks y'all
Turkey will be a cruise missile powerhouse of Europe soon too because Turkey produces 3 different type cruise missile jet engines and developing very cost effective cruise missiles from 100 km range to 1500km range. Also when the GEZGIN cruise missile will be ready Turkey will be capable of using cruise missiles equal to tomahawk from ships and type 214 submarines. and Turkish global positioning system is in development to use cruise missiles independent from gps and glonass.
Poland and Turkey will be stronger powers in Europe soon.
Türkiye as powerful as ever 😮
Turkey is not European
@@PumpkinEater-dm1xx Turkey is a full member candidate to european union, Turkey is member of nato, and Turkish teams play in european championships.
So what racists think doesnt matter. Turks had been in europe 700 years of last 1000 years.
@@darkprofile LOL i didnt know turk is a race damn i must ask my turkish friend what he thinks about that plus there is a reason why turkey is a candidate not a member (full member candidate is a crazy cope hahaha)
So those are rockets that know where they are by substracting where they're not to know where they will be?
Comrade Binkov, when will Comrade Plush Binkov be available again for purchase?
Thx
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When your neighbour is Russia there is no such thing as too much defence spending. Just in case.
Finland in the back:"hey"
Spokojnie ... zbroimy się dla naszej wspólnej europejskiej obrony. Nie po to żeby kogokolwiek atakować . Odstraszać skutecznie.
Bardzo dobrze.
Od lewa do prawa, wszyscy się tu zgadzamy.
więc niech nam dają część za darmo jak izraelowi lub niech głupi polscy politycy kupują od polskiego przemysłu a nie zadłużają się by zagraniczne firmy zarobiły
@@skynet3542spoko, idź stwórz i wyprodukuj solidne uzbrojenie w wystarczającej ilości, a bankowo będziesz miał zamówienia. Człowieku na to potrzeba dziesięcioleci i kontynuacji, z kapelusza nie wyciągniesz
@@WoTBlitzAddict to nie mój problem że zaniedbali przemysł zbrojeniowy. Jak nie będą kupować u siebie to nasz przemysł nigdy się nie rozwinie. Jest PGZ więc zamiast zadłużać sie na potęgę w Korei i USA niech tam inwestują. To że potrzeba czasu mam gdzieś. Polskie rządy miały już go wystarczająco. Jako że nie zrobili tego aż do czasu wojny to powinni to zrobić teraz
JASSM can be launched from C 130 Hercules by a Rapid Dragon 😉
Very good
It's most likely that Poland would be using their C-130s to launch the Palletized JASSM in large volleys instead of F-35s
The C130 option is supposed to be a last resort.
@@caryrichardson43 Doesn't mean it can't be used to halt a rapidly moving advance, such as the beginning stage of an unexpected full scale invasion.
@@caryrichardson43 pretty sure the rapid dragon option will be used when china launches their invasion of taiwan.
0:08 I'm gonna go ahead and say why Poland is gonna be so big and large , World War II and then they had to go through communism on top of that it ain't happening again😂
In America we say f*** around and find out, in Poland they say you try and you die😮😮😮
Because the Poles won't make the same mistake as Ukrainians did - BTW...can Cruise Missiles carry "unconventional-warheads"!?!? (Rhetorical)
Do a video on the U.K. dragonfire air defence system that recently had a successful test. And they’re considering sending it to Ukraine.
TR has a few hundred indigenous cruise missiles, not as much as 900 but surely at least a couple of hundreds
Poland is smart to understand that they are on the front line vs Russia. I'd spend every dime I had on defense if I were them.
Would be nice but they will turn into Russia with no heat no streets and no money to repair Russian air strikes on their utilities.
More likely Poland, Finland and Sweden will be tasked with defending the Baltic countries.
Poland is smart to understand they're in a position to capitalize on your prejudices against Russia. The Russians have no desire to seek war against you but you're scared of the boogey man. Now the Poles can play the role of enforcer and you'll end up coughing up big $$$ and other goodies like you always do, but they have to make themselves look credible first. Turkey did it, Israel does it, Egypt does it, now Poland is getting in on the action.
@@ObeyNoLies It is not a prejudice. It is simply knowing Russia and what it does. They are just present day Mongolian horde that is immune to any efforts to get civilised.
Finnaly poland will be powefull enough to never bow down to again💪🫡💚
Should we read this as finnaly or finally? 🤔
I feel like they will need 4x the missile to say that.
sure but they also need to start their own defense projects. relying on other nations for weapons isn't optimal.
please can you do a video about russian SU35 development , the F15EX , turkish F-16 and KAAN stuff and about the indian air force
Are Shahed drones counted towards iranian cruise missile stocks?
Sure, the Shahed is cruise missile at home, but in terms of its usage, it is a cruise missile.
Another big factor here is that it might be a big enough order to 1)provoke other NATO members into buying it or alternatives to send "someone" a message of staying where they are; 2)spin up the production cycle of the missile which would lead to it becoming cheaper and someone becoming more willing to use it or selling it to states in need.
@@Paul-qk3wr do you see billionaires taking the lead on animal conservation or climate change?😅 Poland knows it's first target if push comes to shove. So it's proactive.
And yes, it's bad that bigger wealthier countries rely on others to solve the issues.
@@Paul-qk3wrwhen it comes to SKorea cooperation it is clear, that Polish wants to be the main distribution centre for Seoul in Europe and i think that’s a smart move. First wise and forward thinking decision i’ve seen in decades.
When it comes to american groceries list - i would guess it’s more of a political move plus compatibility development for the future war. All in all the Poles don’t want to repeat the September 1939 mistake.
@@Paul-qk3wrI have no idea where do You take such information from, but i can say with a fair dose of certainty, that You’re 100% wrong. Absolutely nobody considers invading Belarus as a viable scenario. A joke - maybe. Best wishes from Poland
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Is there any mention that raytheon the company building these missiles have a huge facility in Poland ?
JASSM-ER is a Lockheed Martin weapon
I have two bottle rockets I got at South of the Border in South Carolina about forty five years ago.
Does that count?
With neighbours like we got them - you can never have too much ammo, missiles, weapons, tanks, planes… never again will anyone try genocide on our nation - greetings from Poland! It’s not only about Russia, it’s about Germany and Ukraine and Belarus too.
Germany is in EU and NATO with you, there will never be war between Germany and Poland
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Who knows, Poland apparently plans to attack us to steal the "war reparations"😂🤦♂️
Mass production of cheap long-range drones is a better idea, especially since Poland could produce them itself. But unfortunately, armaments are not only practical matters... but also politics. Poland must sponsor the US arms industry to have security guarantees. But it's always worth having a plan B, so drones would also be useful.
Cheap, long-range drones are useful, but they aren't the best at everything. Compared to an expensive, purpose-built missile, cheap drones will have far more trouble penetrating heavily defended airspace, especially as all countries race to develop better drone countermeasures. They are also far slower and less precise (unless manually piloted, in which case they become vulnerable to jamming instead). Not to say that Poland shouldn't invest into drones, but drones and cruise missiles are two different tools for two different tasks.
Drones dont have such long range
@@przemos7816 Ukrainians regularly attack targets in Russia located 1,000 km from the front... drones certainly have such a range. Here, Russia's size is its disadvantage, because it is very difficult to cover such a huge area with strict anti-aircraft control, and that is why cheap drones are an effective weapon in this case.
You want Poland to just have a bunch of cheap drones for their defense? That sounds like a terrible idea, just look at Russia's (Iranian) drones in Ukraine.
Yah "cheap" Shahed drones are only 30% more expensive then "expensive" AA missile.
The only reason why the UK and France is running low is because they are giving there older Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG missiles to Ukraine to create room in the inventory for the “Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon” which is expected to come on line mid decade.
I jeszcze okręty podwodne będą miały pociski bardzo dalekiego zasięgu
Nie okręty tylko okręt, bo mamy jeden xD Dodatkowo jest już bardzo stary.
We would rather eat grass than be a Russian colony again.
Poland never was a Russian colony, clown
@NeoCortex-ee5ls And USA...
By the time.
@@gumpmoshSoviet union ?
@@krzysztof4314 read a definition of a term "colony", dummy, and don't embarrass yourself anymore, then compare PDR with typical colonies in Africa ( which still exist today), Asia, Americas
@@gumpmosh Colony is the wrong word to describe what Russia did to Poland. It was rather an occupation and an attempt to erase Poland from the world maps forever
Poland will buy 32 air superiority jets, F15 or Eurofighter, that's why we are buying so many JASSM.
Albo kupimy więcej F-35
@@kacyk2736f35 mają długie czasy realizacji zamówień, 2030+
@@MrAsus4870 Tak, czas realizacji zamówień się wydłuża ale i tak poza dwiema eskadrami samolotów przewagi powietrznej powinniśmy zamówić kolejne dwie eskadry F-35. Dla nas to jest must have, zresztą już się o tym mówi... także w MON. Przy okazji trzeba będzie zrobić to o co nie powalczył poprzedni rząd - logistyka, efektory, itd, itd. Pozdrawiam - S.
Mowisz kolejne 4 eskadry samolotow?@@ColonelStanley
@@SupernovaRemodeling Tak, dokładnie.. ale na wszystkie poczekamy jeszcze z 12 lat, na wszystkie - 64 plus 32 F-35 które były zamówione wcześniej. S.
Illegitimi non carborundum ~ Eric Partridge (Lexicographer)
Possibly a video of Indians new MIRVed Agni5 missile ?
Brahmos and Agni5 is something everyone knows, there are few other too with very very less public info. Like the new Agni Prime, hypersonic Shaurya, Prahaar, upcoming K5 and 6, etc
Polamd still need to work on getting ling range balistic missiles aswell
long range? you mean something like a trident 2?
@@Just_A_Random_Desk no may be 2 or 3 k smiles
@@1589chicago oh so an irbm
@1589chicago
Poland keeps vague the range of to be purchased cruise missiles.
Besides, if Ukraine could work out drones that can fly 2k kms, what is holding Poland from doing the same?
@charonboat6394 poland isn't at war thus they can't get arpund all th3 safety and other limitations like ukraine can without braking their own laws on how thing get tested etc
While there are a ton of reasons to buy these, there’s better options available: a Cessna.
Ukraine has shown on the sea’s that cheap and low cost drones can be immensely powerful. A Jetski with explosives and a target can deal a lot of damage. Flying drones with an explosive on it can also deal a lot of damage and are often too numerous or cheap to be shot down.
A new Cessna with all the tech upgrades is between 1/3rd to 1/2 the cost of a Jassm, has the same range, does not need to be air-launched and a lot more weight it can carry. And you don’t need a new one, you can buy a used one for as cheap as 30.000 dollars, or 20 you could buy for the price of one Jassm (although likely the amount of Cessna’s for that price won’t be as big, so 150.000 could be a good back of the envelope estimate). Or you could buy the cheapest Cessna model with any equipment you don’t need and come at a cheaper model. In fact, you don’t need an aircraft rated for multiple flights and capabilities. You need one that can fly just once. So using cheaper stuff you can probably start mass producing your own.
Imagine what you could do to Sevastopol Harbor’s military infrastructure if during a regular drone strike (possibly with one or two Stormshadows) you add 10 Cessna’s with 2.5 tons of explosives (Jassm and Stormshadow 450kg) and slam them into the ships and infrastructure there.
Look, Cruise missiles have a valuable role. If you want something specific destroyed you want an accurate and powerful missile to hit it reliably. But large scale wars are massively influenced by how cheaply you can destroy something, and there’s hundreds to thousands of targets that don’t really need a cruise missile but could be destroyed using cheaper alternatives. A Cessna with 2.5 tons worth of explosives is a simple back of the envelope idea which could make cheaper cruise missile capabilities for anti-air saturation or targeting one of the many many lower value targets that you still want destroyed.
The opening of full scale non-nuclear war with Russia or China is expected to have a mass cruise missile launch anyway, so anti-air installations will be busy, reloading or out of position anyway. So the Cessna’s would be able to reach most targets and deal their damage.
theyre developing drones too, but you cant go all out on drones imo, especially the low tech ones. just because theyre proving effective now doesnt mean a lot of effort isnt put as we speak into developing cost effective countermeasures. imagine you build numerous factories of these things and 3 years from now everyone has anti air that can tackle slow moving targets. remember how songs were written about bayraktars? when was the last time you heard of one
@@Nathan_Yahoo but that is literally all the justifications to use off-the-shelf capabilities first.
Buying secondhand Cessna’s (and other cheap aircraft like Ultralights) off the market and stuffing them with explosives with some drone software (which now doesn’t need to be as miniaturized) should be an easy way to get dozens if not hundreds of drones with a large capacity and proven record of capabilities, then develop a handful of drones on the side that do the same but cheaper. It cuts down on R&D, it gives you these capabilities right now to experiment with while the military hasn’t adjusted yet, it is literally better in every single way than developing them from scratch and risking that in the future a good countermeasure is developed.
Also, it is extremely unlikely that these drones will disappear completely. Even if they can only use internal navigation techniques they would still have an important role to play in long range strike capabilities and saturation of enemy AA capabilities, and the Cessna’s would then actually be the best option since the lower accuracy can be made up by sheer explosive power you can pack into them. Even as “just” a smart munition meant to hit supply depots behind the lines (for which I would look at an 8000 dollar Ultralight with +/-100kg payload), they would be valuable tools.
@@TheDemigans im sure poland can develop something better than a cessna drone, its not like they dont have their own drone program already. i think the missiles are a good idea. kamikaze drones seem more like a weapon for harrasment during an active war, missiles are a deterrent, agressor has to think twice when you have a larger capability to strike targets on very short notice
Literally, storm shadow missiles have been shown to be better at destroying high value targets constantly than the cessna, and the jassm is better than the storm shadow. You aren't attacking harden target with them like you can with jassm because they don't have a bunker busting warhead. Drone have their place in warfare but the jassm er offers capabilities that can't be matched
the latest attempt to destroy two ruzzian military airports with cheap drones showed that they're totally ineffective against targets protected by air defence systems.
ruzzia unfortunatelly has decent air defence and electronic warfare systems,
Poland needs to purchase F15EX, tankers like KC46A or MRTT plus couple of E7 wedge tail and P8
Not really. We need newer types of fighting jets
Poland has become THE major NATO power on the European mainland. GREAT JOB!!!!
Well, not yet
Don't forget Lichtenstein!
@@limbus_patrum there is no country in europe right now that has the initiative and potential to grow its military like poland does. i would consider them the top dog at this point.
@@lmao.3661 I'm Polish and I can say there are 2 major factors that will stop us:
1. Population - Low birthrate, emigration, population is shrinking, and it was not big from the start (Lest than 1/2 of Germany).
2. Money - Poland is not as poor as some may think, but it's also not rich. Average annual wage is $17,5k compared to $46k in Germany.
Those investments in security are big because we are scared of becoming next victim.
@@stefanschleps8758 I never forget Lichtenstein! I've actually been there!
poland spends 4 % od gdp from aronund 820 billion $ on military. soldier is not expensive from 1400 $ a month
Because Poland is based.
"used"
Is it my imagination or the thumbnail got 3 missiles pointing at Germany, Czech Republic and Sweden
Just Germany, you guys are okay
Interesting boost, against the declining might of Russia
Yup, all that new territory, resources, millions of new people, economic growth and energy wealth. Plus a historical strategic partnership with emerging China. Yeah, a total decline compared to the heady days of wine and song that was the Yeltsin government! 🙄
@@ObeyNoLies lol new territory? Oh im sorry, you though Ukraine will be letting you keep anything? You're in for a sad day ahead, Russia, the country with an economy smaller than Italy
@@ObeyNoLies "partnership"? It's quite strange how you wrote "submission to China"...
@@PiotrPilinko In that case, it will now be Ukraine's submission to the USA
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor They still keepin it though
If you have this neighbors plus a not so good geography its an existential necessity
If you have neighbors with nuclear weapons and you have no interest in them other than the goal... then this is a waste of money and resources on such purchases
USA in positive territory, Poland in strong negative
Russia will not coddle Poland... like it will coddle Ukraine
Jassm+ATACMS Kaliningrad and Belarus are lost for Russia
I have a feeling that Königsberg and Belarus will opt out of this event, there will only be a tense situation but nothing will happen.
It's my impression that US made weapons are getting severely backlogged with orders. Perun's recent video definitely enforced that view: ua-cam.com/video/JfMYpmrTGm0/v-deo.html. I'd be curious to see what delivery time estimates we're giving our allies for all this equipment (not that I expect to actually get those estimates, of course).
Poland will never be lost again.
It allready is
To the US?
@@robertwilson214 to Russia.
I'm confused....it's owned by the US just now.
@robertwilson214 Poland doesn't belong to anyone, they joined NATO to safeguard their independence from Russia.
They buy a lot of weapons but there is a lack of ammo and no production
Is it agm 156 or agm 158? I got confused by the thumbnail
158
I think India probably has about 7 missiles Iran probably has about 36
This is the most NonCredibleDefense intro I've ever seen!
I think the Poles would prefer never being overrun and occupied again
The Austrian painter wasn't thorough enough.
True should have conquered russia@@Soldier_ov_Satan
Ну тогда она направилась в диаметрально противоположном направлении
@@user-dh6lr9uq4d Определенно нет.
excellent video
I think investing in drone warfare would be a very efficient use of military spending. Being able to manufacture cost efficient, stealthy drones and effective drone countermeasures would be a major game changer in wars at the moment
technology's changing rapidly, they could master air defense and anti-artillery - suddenly tanks would be relevant all over again.
Poland produces a lot of drones and buys even more. Lately from US and Turkey
Poland has very good antidrone system that is better than most, i.e.. effective range.
And then the winged hussars arrived 😁
Because we draw conclusions from history
@NeoCortex-ee5lsPoland is developing faster than Russia, so who is a muppet and who cares about their interests? After all, the EU is our neighbors
Always the same problem with France. We have the technology, we have the human ressources, we have quality self-produced equipment. We have great companies, we still have american puppets and incompetent politicians who refuse to spend money to produce in more quantity and maintain it.
Good news, we "simply" need to produce more. Bad news, when you don't make large contracts with the companies making the products. They start loosing their capability to produce in large numbers in a short amount of time. When war arrives, it is too late to ask for more.
Better be safe than sorry;
Toujours les américains le problème - ça évite de se regarder en face je suppose. Sans les colonies en afrique (parce que oui si tu leur voles leur argent ça reste une colonie) la France pourrait pas se payer quoi que ce soit.