Hi Dan, great review. I was not bothered by the Elvyra arc : don't know if it was in the first book, but I had Elvyra ask for a ride to the schaffenfest on the berebeli so the players got to know her very well. One was an herbalist and wanted her as a mentor. The others I gave dark whispers not to trust her onto their boat, it was fun to watch them argue!
I just got into WHFR and I’m astounded with their modules. There’s a real passion for the stories they tell and feel less like dungeon delves and more like experiences happening in the world
I solved the problem of transition between SoB and DotR by having my players meet a friendly NPC from one of their backstories the first time they passed through Weisbruck. He was embroiled in some trouble, they helped him and he swore to pay them back one day. I also made that NPC a friend of Elvira. Made the transition much smoother to handle as motivations were easier to provide for PC and they thought of this NPC as a potential ally by themself as soon as they got out of the shit show in Bogenhafen.
Hey, Death on Reik is my favorite RPG book of all time. So super happy to see this. I was never able to place my finger on exactly why I had always worried about that transition from SOB to DOR and you just nailed your analysis. Cheers.
In case it's any help, a chap called Gideon has done a companion for EW and especially for the first three parts he has some ideas on how to deal with the weak sauce plot hooks.
Just to counter on the ‘railroady’ stuff at the beginning of the campaign, it isn’t smooch about narrative development but more about giving characters personal opportunities to develop. So the herbalist in Wittgenstein is there to give a herbalist character (included in the pre-generated list) to get some training. The start of Death on the Reik is basically a ‘levelling up’ session with a bit of sideline narratives attached.
I've been enjoying your reviews, you seem to like a lot of the same game systems that I'm into. I think you should check out the Forbidden Lands rpg and do a review of that and maybe the Raven's Purge campaign book that goes with
One of my players is looking for a mentor Nd he will meet him in Altdorf soon, but he will tell him to meet in grissenwald where he dwells ..this way I hope they will go there haha
I'm trying to get the guy in my group that I alternate GMing with to run Enemy Within. Unfortunately, he and I are the only two that really seem to be that into Warhammer. The rest of the group seems to prefer stuff like D&D and Pathfinder.
@@danwells9305 I have been fortunate that, for the most part, my group is willing to try other systems, but I think selling them on a massive campaign for Warhammer was a little too much. Maybe I should just try to convince them to play through the first book, and hopefully by the end they'll be really into it and want to keep going.
@@PH_Dungeon Maybe start with some of the smaller adventures, like the Ubersreik stuff or Rough Night at the Three Feathers, and see if they like the system.
I run the original Enemy Within campaign in DND settings, the story is super good and you only have to figure out the encounters. The system doesn't matter too much, if you make a conversion table for the d100 die rolls to ability checks to the DND d20, you should be dandy. To amp up the grimdark and the sense of danger, I keep players in low levels, only getting level 2 after defeating Johannes Teugen and Gideon, about 1/3-1/4 level per session.
Hi Dan, great review. I was not bothered by the Elvyra arc : don't know if it was in the first book, but I had Elvyra ask for a ride to the schaffenfest on the berebeli so the players got to know her very well. One was an herbalist and wanted her as a mentor. The others I gave dark whispers not to trust her onto their boat, it was fun to watch them argue!
I just got into WHFR and I’m astounded with their modules. There’s a real passion for the stories they tell and feel less like dungeon delves and more like experiences happening in the world
I solved the problem of transition between SoB and DotR by having my players meet a friendly NPC from one of their backstories the first time they passed through Weisbruck. He was embroiled in some trouble, they helped him and he swore to pay them back one day. I also made that NPC a friend of Elvira. Made the transition much smoother to handle as motivations were easier to provide for PC and they thought of this NPC as a potential ally by themself as soon as they got out of the shit show in Bogenhafen.
That is a great way to do it. And honestly probably the best way to do it.
I don't even play Warhammer (though I played a bit of WHFRP 2e), but these books seem so cool that I might buy them just to read.
Loved this campaign! We played it 1988 when released and were blown away by the sheer scale ans deapth! Did like Something rotten in Kislev too.
Hey, Death on Reik is my favorite RPG book of all time. So super happy to see this. I was never able to place my finger on exactly why I had always worried about that transition from SOB to DOR and you just nailed your analysis. Cheers.
It really is so good. Once you get over that transition, it becomes a gorgeous blend of hooks and hints and total player freedom.
In case it's any help, a chap called Gideon has done a companion for EW and especially for the first three parts he has some ideas on how to deal with the weak sauce plot hooks.
Just to counter on the ‘railroady’ stuff at the beginning of the campaign, it isn’t smooch about narrative development but more about giving characters personal opportunities to develop. So the herbalist in Wittgenstein is there to give a herbalist character (included in the pre-generated list) to get some training. The start of Death on the Reik is basically a ‘levelling up’ session with a bit of sideline narratives attached.
Amazing system (4th ed), and amazing adventure.
I've been enjoying your reviews, you seem to like a lot of the same game systems that I'm into. I think you should check out the Forbidden Lands rpg and do a review of that and maybe the Raven's Purge campaign book that goes with
I've got that one in the queue :)
One of my players is looking for a mentor Nd he will meet him in Altdorf soon, but he will tell him to meet in grissenwald where he dwells ..this way I hope they will go there haha
What would be a good number of characters needed for this adventure, would you suggest?
I have played it with 3 and 4, though I typically prefer 4 or 5.
@@danwells9305 You need 4 to 5 IMO as occasionally one or two will die
I'm trying to get the guy in my group that I alternate GMing with to run Enemy Within. Unfortunately, he and I are the only two that really seem to be that into Warhammer. The rest of the group seems to prefer stuff like D&D and Pathfinder.
I have the same problem. Convincing people to branch out into other systems can be really hard.
@@danwells9305 I have been fortunate that, for the most part, my group is willing to try other systems, but I think selling them on a massive campaign for Warhammer was a little too much. Maybe I should just try to convince them to play through the first book, and hopefully by the end they'll be really into it and want to keep going.
@@PH_Dungeon Maybe start with some of the smaller adventures, like the Ubersreik stuff or Rough Night at the Three Feathers, and see if they like the system.
I run the original Enemy Within campaign in DND settings, the story is super good and you only have to figure out the encounters. The system doesn't matter too much, if you make a conversion table for the d100 die rolls to ability checks to the DND d20, you should be dandy. To amp up the grimdark and the sense of danger, I keep players in low levels, only getting level 2 after defeating Johannes Teugen and Gideon, about 1/3-1/4 level per session.
@@PH_Dungeon Grapes of wrath was a good couple sessions