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Two things: 1. The Celts are not trading for ANYONE STILL ON A ROOKIE CONTRACT AS PLAYERS WITH THAT STATUS ARE WORTHLESS TO A CHAMPIONSHIP-LEVEL TEAM. 2. Danny Ainge is the best con-man in the history of the entire globe. He talked Celtic ownership into a permanent business model of PURPOSEFULLY losing, thereby assuring his job because how easy is it to lose when you don't try and the opposition is trying it's best? Unfortunately, Danny messed up and hired Stevens who REFUSED TO LOSE even though Danny tanked/sabotaged his own team. Now in Utah, he has pulled off the same con and you guys are too dumm to see it. Teams "tank" when they have overspent and traded all their assets to try and "win now". An understandable strategy as at that point, they have no other option. HOWEVER, when Danny took over Utah, they had TWO HIGHLY PAID SUPERSTARS which Danny traded for a slew of first round picks, and at the same time cleared that salary off the board, (along with accidental coups of acquiring Kessler and Markannan). Since then, Brad Stevens, OKC, Minnesota, NY, Cleveland, and Dallas have all retooled into championship contenders, and EVEN THE DREADFUL PISTONS are now winning, while, even with all those newly acquired assets and having tons of cap space, Danny's con-man tanking strategy has left the Jazz PURPOSEFULLY still in the lottery, AND YOU GUYS SOMEHOW STILL THINK HE IS "BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE"! Between the Celts and the Jazz, even with draft capital and spending money, Danny has been in a FIFTEEN YEAR "REBUILD" and other than accidentally stumbling into Brad Stevens, HE HAS DONE NOTHING AND HIS TEAM, EVEN WITH MASSIVE HIGH-LEVEL DRAFT CAPITAL AND CAP SPACE, IS STILL IN THE BOTTOM OF THE LOTTERY. Danny Ainge is a hack who sabotaged his own Celtic team in order to get Stevens fired, so it's unlikely that he will now assist Stevens in any way, but even if he did, the Celts acquiring a player with "rookie contract status", which means they are functionally unplayable in the playoffs, AND the fact that there are no minutes for that player anyway, means that Kessler, nor any player on a rookie contract, will be acquired by Stevens. Stevens understand the game, and that game is to trade one's own draft capital for veteran players with legit playoff level contract status. Show me a trade made by Stevens that doesn't fit that EXACT BUSINESS MODEL, and I'll venmo you $50 just because I'm wrong. Kessler will be worth NOTHING to a championship contending team until he gets his first contract extension, and even then, without accolades, which are impossible for any players playing under Danny's tank-team lack-of-talented roster, his status will still be so low that he will be relegated to being a "role" player at that point. In addition, Kessler absolutely DOES NOT fit the player profile preferred by Stevens. Kessler will never be a Celtic as when this team's roster is aged-out and Stevens has to retool the team, Stevens will trade all the valuable expiring contracts of his highly-paid, and at the time of retooling, over-paid players, and using those trades to restock the team WITH VETERAN PLAYERS WITH PLAYOFF CALIBER CONTRACT STATUS, JUST AS HE DID WITH HOLIDAY AND ZING. The NBA business model is 100% consistent, and Brad Stevens business model, which wholly incorporates the NBA's business model, has also been 100% consistent, yet 0% of you people can see it. "Ignorant" is when one is unknowledgeable, but has the capacity to learn. "Stupid" is one's lack of ability to ever learn. How long does one have to wallow in ignorance before being accurately labeled as "stupid"?
Utah has no future with Danny Ainge. I don't know how you can be that stupid to not know this. LBJ won THREE CHAMPIONSHIPS ON THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS while Danny Ainge was on his 30-year Celtic rebuild. Stevens took Danny's trash roster, rebuilt it in just one season, and has been in the finals twice in those three seasons, including a championship. Since Danny has been at Utah, the Mavs, Rockets, Knicks, Timberwolves, Kings, Nuggets, and Cavs, have all rebuilt their teams to contend for a championship, while Danny traded Gobert and Mitchell, garnering a dozen top picks and clearing cap space, accidentally acquiring Kessler and Markannan, and that team is still a bottom-feeding lottery team. Danny has Utah on a Celtic-like PERMANENT REBUILD. Utah has no future until Ainge is removed as GM.
I like us more wih double big. Kessler and KP would make for a great frontline. That means though 1 of jrue or white move to the bench. I'm fine with that.
@@TheRobversion1 What are we doing here, Seriously? Jrue an Derrick, under no circumstances would be moving to the Bench, just Stop, thanks. No way Jrue Holiday is moving' to the Bench, let alone Derrick white, Chill jeezum.
@n-ciddy1678 d.whire for sure no. Its jrue. Not this season most likely, but eventually he'll get there just like Al. next season or next, next...It'll happen within the next couple of years.
Because Danny has the league conned and is purposefully on a permanent-rebuild in Utah. When a GM sets the bar of perpetual losing and the owner buy-in to that strategy, then permanent losing is always in play.
@@TheRobversion1you can Jaden springer makes more than walker kessler you can’t stack assets to make up the players worth if walker was worth more than 4 million than you wouldn’t be able to
@@nelsonpaz2964 of course. I know that. I didnt say anything about the contracts. Just the picks violating the rule. And yes i'd do that trade but tweak it: celtics get: walker kessler, patty mills and maybe the jazz 2029 2nd jazz get: springer, neemi, 2025 1st, 2027 1st This isnt aggregating contract as these are 2 separate trades bundled; neemi for mills, springer for kessler.
Springer/Tillman + 2025/2027 firsts for Kessler/Mills + one or two second-rounders. Mills comes off the books next year, if the team wants to save more cash they can also waive him. Better to keep Queta over Tillman, X's shooting has cratered and he doesn't bring rim protection that Queta does. C's already on the hook with the starters so re-stocking from the next three drafts not as important than winning now.
Already positied a version of this trade here last month (post-dec 15). My version would be: celtics receive walker kessler, patty mills, jazz 2029 2nd jazz receive jaden springer, neemi queta, celtics 2025 1st and 2027 1st Cs could ask for an extra future 2nd but IMO this gets the deal done. This should also tweak bostons rotation structure to play more double big and 1 of jrue/d.white moves to the bench. jazz do this because the asking price for walker kessler is 2 1sts and filler. They also get kessler replacement here with neemi while only giving up a 2nd.
It's possible, if Utah wants to tank that hard it's possible. But I don't see it happening. I think Utah sees the value, I can see them at least holding him for another year just to see if they can get a better return.
I have actually seen Walker Kessler play for Woodward Academy in Metro-Atlanta. With him at center, they won their first state title. Tennessee Coach Rick Barnes came to see him play against Oak Ridge High School, TN (Tee Higgins’ high school.)
I wouldn’t mind. It as long as it don’t effect the flow of things now like trading our bench roll players .. like Pritchard or Petersen .. I wouldn’t mind trading if they want more personnel ??? A thought but that would give KP a rest and heal a lil more and horford as well he been playing tough blocking shots and so has Kornet as well
How so? Porzingis is made of glass, and AL horford is 38 and it may be his last year before he retires? So if KP misses time due to injury, then you start kessler. If Porzingis is healthy your bench 5. Kessler 4 Harford then Pritchard, Derrick white and whoever else is your backup bench 2nd unit. Like that's unstoppable might as well get the championship trophy ready for boston. But no trade for kessler, and Porzingis goes down with injury, you think Harford at 38 can pickup the slack at center full time, with kornet filling in minutes? I don't think so... so yes trade springer plus 2 future firsts or 1sts pick swaps however it needs done, do it. Also the idea of kessler, patty mills at 36 on expiring contract, isnt a bad idea for players and picks, however why would boston care about that 2nd round pick let alone getting 2 2nd round picks back? Like at that point if your brad Steven's you say deal with or without getting back 2 2nd round picks and hang up the phone after finalizing the deal to bring kessler over. And then you pop champagne and celebrate because you know whether or not KP is healthy, you have your future center in a 23 year old walker kessler who can start every game at center or come off bench as your backup big and still lock down the paint either way. You have to face two bags with Minnesota, no problem start KP and kessler and outmatched gobert and Naz Reid with no issues. Like this is a no trainer move to me
What? The only center we have is Queta, who has such a low contract status that he plays virtually no minutes and is not allowed to participate in the offence when he is on the court. Kessler has the same contract status so he is no more useful to the Celts as is Queta.
How can that trade possibly work? Salaries half, the match. Kessler makes less than Springer. according to you and also, you have us giving up 2 1st round picks, which have expected salaries attached to them in any trade. So maybe you should put that in the trade machine first before you suggest it.
Trading for Walker Kessler would be great. Problem with this trade idea is that the Cs aren't allowed to trade back to back 1st rounders. However, if Trader Danny would accept a package of : Springer and 2 1st round picks ( 2026 and 2030) and 2 second rounders (2025 and 2027) for Kessler, then in a separate trade but still with Utah,Tillman for 2 second rounders, it might just happen.
Glad you ain’t in charge that a lot for a guy coming off the bench why even trade second rounders when you already giving him a guard who can defend well and two first round for a bench center who makes 2.9
Jazz Receives: Neemias Queta Jaden Springer 2025 First Round Pick 2030 First Round Pick 2027 Second Round Pick Celtics Receives: Walker Kessler Patty Mills This would make the trade very fair for both teams, trading only Jaden Springer for him will not happen even though Danny Ainge love the Celtics, we need to be fairer for them and giving them the right assets for this trade could help us in interior defense and Danny Ainge getting Neemias Queta can give him more minutes than the Celtics and having a double Center in the Celtics lineup and Jrue Holiday in the bench could help us strong our bench and also our interior defense. I hope this trade could help Brad Stevens get an idea. Just a suggestion.
Not really. Lead all the latest reports with the lamers offer and jazz counteroffer. The asking price for kessler is 2 1sts. We throw in neemi and that should get things done.
How dumm are you? Tillman IS COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE AT THIS POINT. They can't even put him in a game for 5 minutes because opponents just immediately strafe him for 8-10 easy points. HE IS COMPLETLEY UNPLAYABLE.
nah. 2 1sts is already the jazz's asking price based on negotiations wth the lamers. Lamers dont want to give up 2 1sts so far. Yes we should add more just to outbid possibly others. Add neemi and the deal is done.
Danny just sitting there and saying, is there a move I can make that doesn’t benefit the jazz, but really benefits the Celtics? Yeah, let me make that move.
Jazz receive: Kristaps Porzingis Celtics receive: Walker Kessler + John Collins Jazz have been trying to get anyone to take Collins' bad contract off their hands. Danny Ainge wanted KP and offered the best deal, but KP chose the Celtics. Ainge would get his KP and be able to dump Collins. Celtics get 25 year old healthy Kessler and Collins is the perfect heir-apparent to Horford if Hoford retires after the season. And the depth this season would be amazing (Collins averaging 18ppg would be coming off the bench)
The Celtics need to gut their 3-point shooting in HALF. As someone who has been a Celtics fan since 1958, this team is almost unwatchable with all the freaking 3 they take. I wish that the 3 point shot be outlawed.
@@extremelycharles i agree with that. Kessler has better IQ. But Kessler also has been starting for 3 szns, more experience than Neemie. But offensively, I really don't see why there's a need to trade for him
Blake Griffin and Malcolm Brogdon get back to become back to back champion.prozingis and other players are also unhealthy.brogdon and griffin can help to win a championship.
@@Justinsox39only way this happens is if Brad is actually willing to pay 2 1sts. I do think its plausible however if we get ahead of other teams. I dont mind adding the 2027 heavily protected 2nd and neemi either to sweeten the deal..
I love big al, but to say he does nothing wrong is questionable. I understand he’s old but his defense is not great, his rebounding ability is not great, and recently his biggest ability the 3 point shot hasn’t been great.
I would do this deal in a heartbeat as much as I think Tillman is so trash he does move his feet well and he’s somebody who should’ve played against any big hoop can move their feet like Zion. That’s his only real skill that I see right now on the Celtics for Xavier
You're an ldiot. Players are who they are. There is no such thing as "developing" anyone. A player's playing time and on-court privileges are 100% based on contract status, and players are 100% responsible for their own development. You people are so stupid. You all whine about the team having the third best record in the league, but then you want the coach to put in players who aren't even NBA serviceable. You people are a bunch of stupid hypocrites.
Y if he's making 4 million dollars and not really playing, you need to get someone who's going to play and help you. Because as of late they seem out of sink.
They can. I dont think you understand the 2nd apron correctly. They are just restricted in the contracts they take back. Springer makes 4M. kessler makes 3M. this is legal under 2nd apron rules.
Not really. The lamers got turned down for offering JHS and a 1st. Jazz countered by asking for a 2nd 1st and the lamers walked away. That reveals the asking price for kessler. He will require 2 1sts. I'd say sweeten the pot by adding neemi (this gives them a kessler replacement) and this deal gets done. At least from the jazz POV. question is more of will Brad want to do that?
@ you don’t give away young talent like that The kid got a huge upside on the cheap for now Don’t get me wrong ,I’d love the kid in Boston Thanks for the response ,I’ll be at the game Sundays with the pelicans Going to turn on the cavs game now
@@ChrisB-xl4tq while i agree you dont give away that talent, the jazz have been trying to trade him for years. The lamers have been trying to get him for years. Theres something there thats not related to basketball. Ainge also drafted Flip. Maybe theres a non-fit culturally, schematically or personality wise. Keasler is in trade rumors to a handful of teams every year.
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“Springer doesn’t really move the needle for me,“ but Danny Ainge will just jump at the chance to get him. Wonderful logic.
Thank you for joining me in exposing the BLATENT hypocrisy that courses thru the veins of UA-cam and Celtic's "fans".
One of the easiest ways to spot an ldiot is to just listen to them be a hypocrite to their own words!
Kessler is their starting center, he is their part of Utah's future. It is ridiculous to think we can trade for him.
Idk brad stevens has pulled off some crazy stuff lol
Two things:
1. The Celts are not trading for ANYONE STILL ON A ROOKIE CONTRACT AS PLAYERS WITH THAT STATUS ARE WORTHLESS TO A CHAMPIONSHIP-LEVEL TEAM.
2. Danny Ainge is the best con-man in the history of the entire globe. He talked Celtic ownership into a permanent business model of PURPOSEFULLY losing, thereby assuring his job because how easy is it to lose when you don't try and the opposition is trying it's best? Unfortunately, Danny messed up and hired Stevens who REFUSED TO LOSE even though Danny tanked/sabotaged his own team.
Now in Utah, he has pulled off the same con and you guys are too dumm to see it.
Teams "tank" when they have overspent and traded all their assets to try and "win now". An understandable strategy as at that point, they have no other option.
HOWEVER, when Danny took over Utah, they had TWO HIGHLY PAID SUPERSTARS which Danny traded for a slew of first round picks, and at the same time cleared that salary off the board, (along with accidental coups of acquiring Kessler and Markannan).
Since then, Brad Stevens, OKC, Minnesota, NY, Cleveland, and Dallas have all retooled into championship contenders, and EVEN THE DREADFUL PISTONS are now winning, while, even with all those newly acquired assets and having tons of cap space, Danny's con-man tanking strategy has left the Jazz PURPOSEFULLY still in the lottery, AND YOU GUYS SOMEHOW STILL THINK HE IS "BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE"!
Between the Celts and the Jazz, even with draft capital and spending money, Danny has been in a FIFTEEN YEAR "REBUILD" and other than accidentally stumbling into Brad Stevens, HE HAS DONE NOTHING AND HIS TEAM, EVEN WITH MASSIVE HIGH-LEVEL DRAFT CAPITAL AND CAP SPACE, IS STILL IN THE BOTTOM OF THE LOTTERY.
Danny Ainge is a hack who sabotaged his own Celtic team in order to get Stevens fired, so it's unlikely that he will now assist Stevens in any way, but even if he did, the Celts acquiring a player with "rookie contract status", which means they are functionally unplayable in the playoffs, AND the fact that there are no minutes for that player anyway, means that Kessler, nor any player on a rookie contract, will be acquired by Stevens.
Stevens understand the game, and that game is to trade one's own draft capital for veteran players with legit playoff level contract status.
Show me a trade made by Stevens that doesn't fit that EXACT BUSINESS MODEL, and I'll venmo you $50 just because I'm wrong.
Kessler will be worth NOTHING to a championship contending team until he gets his first contract extension, and even then, without accolades, which are impossible for any players playing under Danny's tank-team lack-of-talented roster, his status will still be so low that he will be relegated to being a "role" player at that point.
In addition, Kessler absolutely DOES NOT fit the player profile preferred by Stevens.
Kessler will never be a Celtic as when this team's roster is aged-out and Stevens has to retool the team, Stevens will trade all the valuable expiring contracts of his highly-paid, and at the time of retooling, over-paid players, and using those trades to restock the team WITH VETERAN PLAYERS WITH PLAYOFF CALIBER CONTRACT STATUS, JUST AS HE DID WITH HOLIDAY AND ZING.
The NBA business model is 100% consistent, and Brad Stevens business model, which wholly incorporates the NBA's business model, has also been 100% consistent, yet 0% of you people can see it.
"Ignorant" is when one is unknowledgeable, but has the capacity to learn.
"Stupid" is one's lack of ability to ever learn.
How long does one have to wallow in ignorance before being accurately labeled as "stupid"?
Utah has no future with Danny Ainge.
I don't know how you can be that stupid to not know this.
LBJ won THREE CHAMPIONSHIPS ON THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS while Danny Ainge was on his 30-year Celtic rebuild.
Stevens took Danny's trash roster, rebuilt it in just one season, and has been in the finals twice in those three seasons, including a championship.
Since Danny has been at Utah, the Mavs, Rockets, Knicks, Timberwolves, Kings, Nuggets, and Cavs, have all rebuilt their teams to contend for a championship, while Danny traded Gobert and Mitchell, garnering a dozen top picks and clearing cap space, accidentally acquiring Kessler and Markannan, and that team is still a bottom-feeding lottery team.
Danny has Utah on a Celtic-like PERMANENT REBUILD.
Utah has no future until Ainge is removed as GM.
thats wha we need more centers big man, so that porzingis and kesssler would make a great defense. Defense is a great offense
I like us more wih double big. Kessler and KP would make for a great frontline. That means though 1 of jrue or white move to the bench. I'm fine with that.
@@TheRobversion1 What are we doing here, Seriously? Jrue an Derrick, under no circumstances would be moving to the Bench, just Stop, thanks. No way Jrue Holiday is moving' to the Bench, let alone Derrick white, Chill jeezum.
If we were to acquire Walker Kessler, he would come in with Al or either Payton Pritchard, OFF THE BENCH, thanks. Know ball Please, yes.
@n-ciddy1678 d.whire for sure no. Its jrue. Not this season most likely, but eventually he'll get there just like Al. next season or next, next...It'll happen within the next couple of years.
@@n-ciddy1678 sure. Thats plausible.
And i do know ball. it doesnt mean if someone has a different take than yours they dont know ball.
Walker Kessler highlights for the 2024-25 Season:
10.7 PPG, 11.2 RPG, 2.6 BPG, 71.1 FG%
Why would UTA trade a promising young center for a replacement level player and late round picks?
Because Danny Ainge is a Celtics insider
Because Danny loves picks so much more
Because Danny has the league conned and is purposefully on a permanent-rebuild in Utah.
When a GM sets the bar of perpetual losing and the owner buy-in to that strategy, then permanent losing is always in play.
Celtics trade rumors with the Utah Jazz:
Boston Celtics Receive: Walker Kessler (C)
Utah Jazz Receive: Jaden Springer, 2025 1st Round, 2026 1st Round Pick
cant trade consecutive 1sts due to the stepien rule. replace the 2026 1st with 2027 1st.
@@TheRobversion1you can Jaden springer makes more than walker kessler you can’t stack assets to make up the players worth if walker was worth more than 4 million than you wouldn’t be able to
@@nelsonpaz2964 of course. I know that. I didnt say anything about the contracts. Just the picks violating the rule.
And yes i'd do that trade but tweak it:
celtics get: walker kessler, patty mills and maybe the jazz 2029 2nd
jazz get: springer, neemi, 2025 1st, 2027 1st
This isnt aggregating contract as these are 2 separate trades bundled; neemi for mills, springer for kessler.
Springer/Tillman + 2025/2027 firsts for Kessler/Mills + one or two second-rounders. Mills comes off the books next year, if the team wants to save more cash they can also waive him. Better to keep Queta over Tillman, X's shooting has cratered and he doesn't bring rim protection that Queta does. C's already on the hook with the starters so re-stocking from the next three drafts not as important than winning now.
Keep millstrade Tillman for assets and bring in Lonnie walker
I like this move !!
I think X will be ok for trading, Queta is young and have great future
Already positied a version of this trade here last month (post-dec 15). My version would be:
celtics receive walker kessler, patty mills, jazz 2029 2nd
jazz receive jaden springer, neemi queta, celtics 2025 1st and 2027 1st
Cs could ask for an extra future 2nd but IMO this gets the deal done. This should also tweak bostons rotation structure to play more double big and 1 of jrue/d.white moves to the bench.
jazz do this because the asking price for walker kessler is 2 1sts and filler. They also get kessler replacement here with neemi while only giving up a 2nd.
And it's just as dumm an idea today as it was a month ago.
Celtics can't trade B2B 1sts because of Stepien rule right?
It's possible, if Utah wants to tank that hard it's possible. But I don't see it happening. I think Utah sees the value, I can see them at least holding him for another year just to see if they can get a better return.
Congrats in 43k
I have actually seen Walker Kessler play for Woodward Academy in Metro-Atlanta. With him at center, they won their first state title. Tennessee Coach Rick Barnes came to see him play against Oak Ridge High School, TN (Tee Higgins’ high school.)
Spring Springer!
Trade that’s a steal
Stop it they already said they aren’t trading him
Nah, Neemias is developing well. He'll be a beast for 10 minutes per game during the playoff run.
Let’s Go C’s !!!!
Kessler would be a great addition to the Celtics if the price is not too high.
I wouldn’t mind. It as long as it don’t effect the flow of things now like trading our bench roll players .. like Pritchard or Petersen .. I wouldn’t mind trading if they want more personnel ??? A thought but that would give KP a rest and heal a lil more and horford as well he been playing tough blocking shots and so has Kornet as well
Peterson? That dude doesn't even have a real NBA contract. Get a grip dude. What an ldiot.
If a Kessler trade don't work, there's Herr Theis. Straight swap with Springer or X-man!!
WK 🏀☘️
Ttrading Springer for Kessler creates a logjam at the center position.
Less mins for Horford and Kornet. But trade won’t happen in 10000000000 years.
@@lonzo9569so you are saying there is a chance
How so? Porzingis is made of glass, and AL horford is 38 and it may be his last year before he retires? So if KP misses time due to injury, then you start kessler. If Porzingis is healthy your bench 5. Kessler 4 Harford then Pritchard, Derrick white and whoever else is your backup bench 2nd unit. Like that's unstoppable might as well get the championship trophy ready for boston. But no trade for kessler, and Porzingis goes down with injury, you think Harford at 38 can pickup the slack at center full time, with kornet filling in minutes? I don't think so... so yes trade springer plus 2 future firsts or 1sts pick swaps however it needs done, do it. Also the idea of kessler, patty mills at 36 on expiring contract, isnt a bad idea for players and picks, however why would boston care about that 2nd round pick let alone getting 2 2nd round picks back? Like at that point if your brad Steven's you say deal with or without getting back 2 2nd round picks and hang up the phone after finalizing the deal to bring kessler over. And then you pop champagne and celebrate because you know whether or not KP is healthy, you have your future center in a 23 year old walker kessler who can start every game at center or come off bench as your backup big and still lock down the paint either way. You have to face two bags with Minnesota, no problem start KP and kessler and outmatched gobert and Naz Reid with no issues. Like this is a no trainer move to me
@ You didn’t mention anything about Queta or even Tillman, yet you are already raising a banner based on Kessler? Ha.
What? The only center we have is Queta, who has such a low contract status that he plays virtually no minutes and is not allowed to participate in the offence when he is on the court.
Kessler has the same contract status so he is no more useful to the Celts as is Queta.
Yes, bring Kessler in.
That was very good a rim protector
How can that trade possibly work? Salaries half, the match. Kessler makes less than Springer. according to you and also, you have us giving up 2 1st round picks, which have expected salaries attached to them in any trade. So maybe you should put that in the trade machine first before you suggest it.
I agree. Trade Tillman.
Walker Kessler would be a fire pick up I think we should try to make a play when al retires that freed up cap space will be sexy
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Trading for Walker Kessler would be great. Problem with this trade idea is that the Cs aren't allowed to trade back to back 1st rounders. However, if Trader Danny would accept a package of : Springer and 2 1st round picks ( 2026 and 2030) and 2 second rounders (2025 and 2027) for Kessler, then in a separate trade but still with Utah,Tillman for 2 second rounders, it might just happen.
Glad you ain’t in charge that a lot for a guy coming off the bench why even trade second rounders when you already giving him a guard who can defend well and two first round for a bench center who makes 2.9
@@nelsonpaz2964Yeah terrible to trade away new assets in the years you’ll need em 😂
Wk
Kessler is NEVER coming to Boston.
Would be a good move,But one problem,Most of the Celtics are under big Contracts,other teams would have to chip in with their Contracts!
He has started in all 30 games he played in this year. They aren't trading him for junk.
He’d fit like a glove
I like that trade for WK!!!!
T !!!!
Danny likes draft picks give him some picks
Jazz Receives:
Neemias Queta
Jaden Springer
2025 First Round Pick
2030 First Round Pick
2027 Second Round Pick
Celtics Receives:
Walker Kessler
Patty Mills
This would make the trade very fair for both teams, trading only Jaden Springer for him will not happen even though Danny Ainge love the Celtics, we need to be fairer for them and giving them the right assets for this trade could help us in interior defense and Danny Ainge getting Neemias Queta can give him more minutes than the Celtics and having a double Center in the Celtics lineup and Jrue Holiday in the bench could help us strong our bench and also our interior defense. I hope this trade could help Brad Stevens get an idea. Just a suggestion.
No way. Too good to be true
Not really. Lead all the latest reports with the lamers offer and jazz counteroffer.
The asking price for kessler is 2 1sts. We throw in neemi and that should get things done.
I think we should be getting Tillman ready to play the 5 if anything happens to KP or Horford. We can lose the 5 out option.
How dumm are you? Tillman IS COMPLETELY UNPLAYABLE AT THIS POINT.
They can't even put him in a game for 5 minutes because opponents just immediately strafe him for 8-10 easy points.
HE IS COMPLETLEY UNPLAYABLE.
Idk Allie I don’t think the Jazz would do that we’d have to throw in more.
nah. 2 1sts is already the jazz's asking price based on negotiations wth the lamers. Lamers dont want to give up 2 1sts so far.
Yes we should add more just to outbid possibly others. Add neemi and the deal is done.
Trade Springer.
Want
TRADE TATUM as he is lazy
Danny just sitting there and saying, is there a move I can make that doesn’t benefit the jazz, but really benefits the Celtics? Yeah, let me make that move.
Upcoming Boston Celtics free agents:
Jaden Springer
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Y'all are going to lose kornet in free agency's
Trade springer
"T"
Jazz receive: Kristaps Porzingis
Celtics receive: Walker Kessler + John Collins
Jazz have been trying to get anyone to take Collins' bad contract off their hands. Danny Ainge wanted KP and offered the best deal, but KP chose the Celtics. Ainge would get his KP and be able to dump Collins. Celtics get 25 year old healthy Kessler and Collins is the perfect heir-apparent to Horford if Hoford retires after the season. And the depth this season would be amazing (Collins averaging 18ppg would be coming off the bench)
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If we could?
Trade Springer and Queta for Kessler.
Then try and grab Lonnie Walker from Europe too.
Allie !!!
Trade Springer & X-man & include Peterson to sweeten the deal.
if anyone could pull this off, its Trader Brad
The Jazz wouldn't want to do the trade, player.
jazz said they not trading kessler
But ldiots only hear what they want to hear, they summarily dismiss the truth as an inconvenience.
50 K by June lfg.
Should Boston trade Jaden Springer? Type ‘T’ for Trade Type ‘K’ for Keep
T- Trade Jaden Springer 💯, he’s not doing anything for us this season 💯
How about "I" for Irrelevant?
The Celtics need to gut their 3-point shooting in HALF. As someone who has been a Celtics fan since 1958, this team is almost unwatchable with all the freaking 3 they take. I wish that the 3 point shot be outlawed.
You are irrelevant. It isn't 1958 anymore. Jesus Christ you people are dumm.
I would move Hauser in a blink of a eye.....for the right guy
Yeah, because the team's free-fall directly coincided with Hauser's availability. Right, let's trade that guy. ldiot.
Walker kessler or Tounami Camara
I mean what does Kessler do that Neemie can't? Better IQ?
Neemie is good in spurts, Kessler is a lot more consistent.
@@extremelycharles i agree with that. Kessler has better IQ. But Kessler also has been starting for 3 szns, more experience than Neemie. But offensively, I really don't see why there's a need to trade for him
@JoeCupoff just consistency. Neemie will get you 12 and 12 one game, and then 2 and 2 5 games in a row. Kessler will get you 12 and 12 every game.
It doesn't matter. Queta has a low level contract status, but Kessler is even lower because he's still on a rookie contract..
Blake Griffin and Malcolm Brogdon get back to become back to back champion.prozingis and other players are also unhealthy.brogdon and griffin can help to win a championship.
But they are negotiating with danny....you all know about danny ...
Yeah but Danny will always bleed green. Remember how easily we got Garnet from Mchale!! I don’t think it’s happening though.
@@Justinsox39only way this happens is if Brad is actually willing to pay 2 1sts.
I do think its plausible however if we get ahead of other teams. I dont mind adding the 2027 heavily protected 2nd and neemi either to sweeten the deal..
'WK'
Do you really think Danny is trading Kessler for Jayden? Lol
If you move, the ball will find you.
Jaden Springer, has not played much for Celtic, no team will make a trade, unless one more piece is added, could be Xavier.
Wk all day
And would this help us with the money situation or we can bring back Looney Walker to join the team as well?
Dude, learn how to correctly spell the player's name. You have no credibility when you are that stupid/disrespectful.
I love big al, but to say he does nothing wrong is questionable. I understand he’s old but his defense is not great, his rebounding ability is not great, and recently his biggest ability the 3 point shot hasn’t been great.
I would do this deal in a heartbeat as much as I think Tillman is so trash he does move his feet well and he’s somebody who should’ve played against any big hoop can move their feet like Zion. That’s his only real skill that I see right now on the Celtics for Xavier
Kornet needs to play like a 7’2 player. Mazzula terrible at developing young players.
You're an ldiot. Players are who they are. There is no such thing as "developing" anyone. A player's playing time and on-court privileges are 100% based on contract status, and players are 100% responsible for their own development.
You people are so stupid. You all whine about the team having the third best record in the league, but then you want the coach to put in players who aren't even NBA serviceable.
You people are a bunch of stupid hypocrites.
"T" absolutely he taking up space and money and don’t play I’m sure he living it collecting that money for 10 min a week or maybe 30 a month a joke
"T" absolutely he taking up space and money and don’t play I’m sure he loving it collecting that money for 10 min a week or maybe 30 a month a joke
That's what "bench" players do, the get paid to practice and then sit on the bench during games. How stupid are you to not understand this?
Y if he's making 4 million dollars and not really playing, you need to get someone who's going to play and help you. Because as of late they seem out of sink.
Clueless.
WK
Not happening
I would trade Luke nemi springer for him and two picks
And that's why you are not a GM.
Wk
lol chat sports shoudl be called clickback and bad take sports.
Guess who doesn't need or want to make any trades????
I'm Glad you asked........!!!
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Stop teasing us,this isn't happening
Celtics can’t make any trades over second apron please report with knowledge of that
They can. I dont think you understand the 2nd apron correctly. They are just restricted in the contracts they take back.
Springer makes 4M. kessler makes 3M. this is legal under 2nd apron rules.
Doesn't matter boston will lose to the cavs or thunder
Does the carpet munch or does the carpet munch 😅
Kessler would be a great addition even though he is only 6 10 compared to Porzingas 7 2.
No way this is happening
You have a better chance of seeing trump and Obama having dinner together lol
Then this trade
Not really. The lamers got turned down for offering JHS and a 1st. Jazz countered by asking for a 2nd 1st and the lamers walked away.
That reveals the asking price for kessler. He will require 2 1sts.
I'd say sweeten the pot by adding neemi (this gives them a kessler replacement) and this deal gets done. At least from the jazz POV. question is more of will Brad want to do that?
@ you don’t give away young talent like that
The kid got a huge upside on the cheap for now
Don’t get me wrong ,I’d love the kid in Boston
Thanks for the response ,I’ll be at the game Sundays with the pelicans
Going to turn on the cavs game now
@@ChrisB-xl4tq while i agree you dont give away that talent, the jazz have been trying to trade him for years. The lamers have been trying to get him for years. Theres something there thats not related to basketball. Ainge also drafted Flip. Maybe theres a non-fit culturally, schematically or personality wise. Keasler is in trade rumors to a handful of teams every year.
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Cool, we'll see you in the ECF and sort it out at that time.
The Cavs are going to win it this year,they and the Thunder,are the only complete teams,so we may as well trade some.
Celtics will repeat
@DSJonesWriter No they won't,they way are going now, they won't beat the Cavs.
@@Andy_M986yet we’ve beaten the Cavs both times we played this year 🤷♂️
@RegardedONE We haven't played them this year yet, and they beat us on December 1st 115-111,we beat them 120-117 on November 19, not sure where you're getting your info from,ask for your money back.
@ Year=Season. We’ll see what happens in February 💪
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Yea and then he missed so congrats to pool he just made it to shaqtin a fool
@nelsonpaz2964 your just mad because Poole put prichard in the blender hahahahaha how's that center of yours kp hahaha can't stay healthy huh? Hahahahaha Boston done they're not repeating denver takes them out if the knicks don't in the playoffs.
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