Using Scalic Bass Lines (Bach Chorale Music Analysis) - Inside the Mind of Bach

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  • @MusicMattersGB
    @MusicMattersGB  3 роки тому

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  • @chrisisbell3080
    @chrisisbell3080 2 роки тому +8

    The soprano line is essentially a scale in minims from G up to D and back down to G. The bass line scales go in the other direction four times faster. Genius!

  • @charlottemarceau8062
    @charlottemarceau8062 2 роки тому +3

    "How you might 'Handel' that" gives me a giggle every time.
    Great video, I'm looking forward to the rest!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

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  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster 2 роки тому +7

    Loving the Bach series! I'd love to also see more insights into later music, like a video on Rachmaninoff's use of counterpoint and chromatic and modal harmony in one of the the etudes-tableaux would be amazing!

  • @pjny123
    @pjny123 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely wonderful! Thank you so very much for once again sharing your profound knowledge and insights, and for your clear and easy way of explaining your thoughts . . . There is so much going on in only 5 bars of music! You are a treasure, and this brightened my day more than I can say.

  • @JackStevenson5045
    @JackStevenson5045 2 роки тому +1

    What a wonderful lesson! So musical and very informative. Great analysis. Bravo! Simple is always beautiful.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

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  • @DanielFerreira-ep6dq
    @DanielFerreira-ep6dq 2 роки тому +1

    This channel is fantastic! I've been evolving a lot since I discovered it. Thanks for posting!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому +1

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  • @live2groove
    @live2groove 2 роки тому +1

    I teach electric bass. I play mostly rock, blues and jazz. Bach wrote the best bass lines ever and even bass players today use those same techniques of chromatic/half step or lower fifth approach notes for walking basslines. If you want to know where the chords are, listen to the bass. Especially the melodic minor scales outlining the secondary dominates resolving to the relative minor chords. I've recently starting transcribing piano bourrées for electric guitar and electric bass to illustrate how the bass moves through chord changes. Not very traditional, but a lot of fun.

  • @randolphmitchell6851
    @randolphmitchell6851 2 роки тому +2

    Another delightful pair of Bach phrases! Perhaps you've discussed this already somewhere, but I remember reading that functional harmony became established during Bach's lifetime (Rameau?), and that Bach might not have thought about his harmonies in the same way we do looking back. Perhaps an installment of "Inside the Mind of Bach" could look at what's known of Bach's perspective on organizing harmony, and how that relates to earlier as well as later approaches?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому +2

      That’s a good point. Of course much Baroque harmonic thinking was from the bass up rather than the top down approach we have often adopted since.

  • @johnwade7430
    @johnwade7430 2 роки тому +1

    Great video - I haven’t heard the cadential phrase ‘hot cross buns’ since i was at school (over 30 years now….)
    Great stuff

  • @lindacowles756
    @lindacowles756 2 роки тому

    G'day, Mr. Greene! I was thinking, "I wish he'd use highlighter for the chords he's talking about," and then you DID. You read my mind. Thank you. It really helps.

  • @FernandoHernandez-bx2ok
    @FernandoHernandez-bx2ok 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you very much for your videos. Very informative and clear. One technical question. What software do you use to get the green lights on the keyboard? Thank you.

  • @deplinenoise
    @deplinenoise 2 роки тому

    Always a pure delight to watch. Thank you!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

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  • @jayducharme
    @jayducharme 2 роки тому +1

    Another fascinating analysis. I'm still impressed with how Bach was given pre-written melodies, but his arrangement and harmony put his own stamp on the music. Our current society places so much emphasis on melodic originality, but Bach seems to be a master of harmonic originality (something arguably a bit more useful).

  • @richardmartin8496
    @richardmartin8496 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent stuff! Thank you!

  • @miguelcarvalho3685
    @miguelcarvalho3685 2 роки тому

    Fantastic

  • @the_eternal_student
    @the_eternal_student 2 роки тому

    A root motion by third progression in the first phrase: I-vi-IV, indirect step-descent bass from scale degree 1 down to 4 harmonized with 42 (figured bass) chords on the off beats, except a passing 64 on the and of beat 2 which combines the vi and IV versions of the descent, plus a IV-ii complex extending the step descent. A V chord is stronger than a V7 in regard to its independence from the tonic.

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues1158 2 роки тому

    Jazz Bass players should know this!

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 роки тому

    This was my introduction to music analysis and it is above my pay grade. But it is a good motivation for my practice sessions. Just over two months playing the piano after my retirement. I think I need to work my inversions since it seems that really knowing what notes to use is important, n'est-ce pas?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. Enjoy!

    • @lawrencetaylor4101
      @lawrencetaylor4101 Рік тому

      @@MusicMattersGB Time to rewatch this after a year, and you've helped me progress as a musician. I stopped this and sightread the harmony and then watched your analysis. You really are the best witch of your generation, I mean, music teacher. I stole a line from Harry Potter for inspiration, since imitation can be a good musical tool, n'est-ce pas?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Рік тому

      @lawrencetaylor4101 You’re very kind.

  • @MarcasLancaster
    @MarcasLancaster 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

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  • @jimlynch22
    @jimlynch22 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @charlesgoldsmith6388
    @charlesgoldsmith6388 2 роки тому

    I enjoy your music tuition 👍

    • @MusicMattersGB
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  • @davidwhite2949
    @davidwhite2949 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting how certain scalar notes such as the B flat in this example can be seen as either a chord tone or inessential
    Like arpeggios, breaking up the chord
    And, for that matter, adding extensions

  • @smithintern-tainment7868
    @smithintern-tainment7868 2 роки тому

    I was just thinking about this o.O

  • @embodiedconducting
    @embodiedconducting 2 роки тому

    Is it not possible to label the chord on beat 2 of m. 1 as vi so the progression is I - vi - Vi - ii - V - I?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

      You could see it as vi7 followed by an unaccented passing note in the bass. In reality the A in the bass sounds like an accented passing note.

  • @alessandropizzotti932
    @alessandropizzotti932 2 роки тому

    Is the hidden octave at the end of second bar acceptable because the top voice moves by step? I mean, if JSB does it, it must be right! 😆

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

      Where do you see a hidden octave at the end of bar 2?

    • @alessandropizzotti932
      @alessandropizzotti932 2 роки тому

      @@MusicMattersGB I was taught to call a parallel movement of two voices from any interval onto an octave a "hidden octave", and that it has in general to be avoided, although there are exceptions, one being indeed that the voices involved are the external ones and the soprano moves by a minor second, as I have checked in the meanwhile in Dubois: it is actually the first example of paragraph 28 (Italian edition, but I suppose the numbering is the same).

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

      😀

  • @isaacshaw1596
    @isaacshaw1596 Рік тому

    It sounds alright but I have come back to this series because it's been a while and it's a pretty meh chorale. He is a genius don't get me wrong but going from V7 to V is not something I would ever advise and the fact he did it when there's no reason to including movement reasons I find strange and it makes the chorale sound a lot weaker. Really strange. It was quite a disappointing chorale and there's more disappointing chorales than I would like to admit but it's the shear volume of music he had to churn out for every single Sunday as well as look after his family is where you take a step back and forgive him for frankly a poor chorale. Having said that I am glad you looked at it because there are some useful elements in it as well as some interesting corners.

  • @bensmirmusic
    @bensmirmusic 2 роки тому

    Hey, it would be way more clearer if you write the chords number at the right of the screen

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

      We prefer to associate the number with the chord so there’s no confusion.

  • @isaacshaw1596
    @isaacshaw1596 2 роки тому

    That is a very strange chorale. I like to look at chorales and analyse them but this is the strangest yet.

  • @jerryk3280
    @jerryk3280 2 роки тому

    Turn the tonic into a dominant! Why not? 😂

  • @JonathanBrown1
    @JonathanBrown1 2 роки тому

    Past time to tune your piano!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

      It never goes out of tune. That’s the joy of electric pianos!

    • @JonathanBrown1
      @JonathanBrown1 2 роки тому

      @@MusicMattersGB I bought a high end Kawai keyboard last year and was surprised to find that its flagship piano "instrument" was imperfectly tuned. (The Kawai synthesizer is based on "sampling" from real instruments. The tuning on my keyboard varies from pre-installed instrument to instrument.) Fortunately, on this Kawai one can change the tuning of individual notes as well as change temperaments. Or, better yet, just run the keyboard through a superior emulator like Modartt Pianoteq.
      I think you might find that your A4 was mistuned out of the box. Depends on the temperament, of course, but I believe that most temperaments keep a fairly pure interval between the root and the fifth in the key of C. We violinists pay a lot of attention to that 440 A! ;=)

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 роки тому

      It is at 440 but it may well be ever so slightly out. We’ll take a look!

  • @lordlem
    @lordlem 2 роки тому

    Loving the Bach series! I'd love to also see more insights into later music, like a video on Rachmaninoff's use of counterpoint and chromatic and modal harmony in one of the the etudes-tableaux would be amazing!