+Linda Liriel Yes it's an interesting social profile to study. Usually progresses to a noxious relationship and pathological behavior, all because of individual perception. The lonely, social awkward man knows that he has difficulty assimilating and fitting in perfectly to his surrounding, and when he is accepted he tends to see his acceptance as a defining event in his life, this new relationship now becomes representative to his social status, if you were to end this relationship it would be indicative of social digression. It would confirm all doubts of social integrity, it would be his long life, chronic problem brought to life. Now here is when it turns into pathological behavior. Normally we tend to create defense mechanisms that justify our position and status. People who find it hard to socially assimilate, AID their cardinal problem with a false perception of the society in which he/she doesn't understand in the first place. The following are interesting cases in which the assailant had the same initial profile, and when faced with disconnection/acceptance, it became indicative to represent who they are, they weren't able to lean on any healthy defense mechanism.... 1)Elliot Rodger Tired of being rejected by society and unable to create intimate relationship with the opposite sex. Takes it out on all random society especially women, Kills 7 before taking his own life. Analyze the video for yourself, titled full video Elliot Rodger on UA-cam 2)Christine Paolilla She suffered from alopecia (hair-loss) and was shunned from the cruel, juvenile, yet raw society we live in as kids. She was accepted in high school by people who were sympathetic(PEOPLE LIKE YOU), these people (Rachael Koloroutis and Tiffany Rowell) gave her a makeover and befriended the socially awkward, lonely teen. She was able to finally be accepted, She now was also able to build an intimate relationship with the opposite sex as well. She then had different realities form into her perception. She saw an evil society who hated her. She saw people who love her. She was able to affiliate schoolmates with the hate she had to society, and her boyfriend with "her acceptance and love" that she received. Her reaction was with no remorse, fatally shooting four people, including her two friends, in their Clear Lake City, Texas home on July 18, 2003. You can take your chances and help people, it's great and it also makes you vulnerable to their unhealthy perceptions.
+Justin B They literally had a foot race, Ana thought she would win because she weighs significantly less. However, Cenk regularly exercises so he had superior stamina.
Aww, lol that's super cute. :3 I think he said what he said because of the societal shaming placed upon obesity; most people, typically, do not prefer overweight partners, so he was being logical by referencing that statistic. Overall, though, I would say he has very much self-confidence.
Am I the only person that had the "I'll never let go, Jack" line from Titanic in my head, when they were talking about the dude staying with him if he faked an injury? Just picturing an overly friendly Vietnamese guy saying that made me laugh.
They don't do videos on the weekend, they just upload some day old videos on saturday. I am sure they will talk about it on the show on Monday and upload the clip later that day.
The point isn't that there's anything wrong with being friendly. The point is that there are times and places for being friendly, and most people prefer to jog alone. So jogging along side someone you don't know, and it's silent the whole jog....that's just fucking awkward. Be friendly at social situations or places, like a bar. But when someone is going on a jog they prefer to be alone
Come on guys, he was just a bloke wanting someone to jog with, is America that fucked up that you can't be nice to someone without them thinking they're up to something... I would have expected someone like jenk to just accept the experience as a positive one, but you just make fun of the poor guy in front of the whole world for being friendly... weird bunch TYT, just when you think you get a handle on someone.
LMAO there are so many good lines. "I started going quicker for a significant period of time which Ana knows I can do" I can't help can't help, but to think sexually.
My mom started really getting into jogging a while back. This is actually normal behavior for joggers and runners. They'll shadow other joggers/runners if they like that person's pace, because then, they can emulate them. Some of them do prefer to jog alone, but others like to find a partner.
I have noticed that as hectic urban life has increasingly replaced land life that people have absolutely no time for other humans. When i grew up on the land it was routine to talk with people at the bus station, talk about recent happenings, future events, opinions etc. But now people all run around like stressed robots staring at their cell phones, singularly listening to music with ear plugs, even reading the newspaper on the train seems to take too much time away from (post) modern life.
I agree with and support your position, I must not have been clear, I have had conversations with random people I have met who had mental illness, a number of those situations were frightening-stalking, threatening, outbursts etc. I am not concerned by random talkative friendly people, and I stop to humor them and sometimes turn out befriending them.
I think there is a cultural misunderstanding here because Vietnamese and Japanese and I think some Chinese culture like to do things communal so exercising would be one of those things
People from non-Midwest states can be sooooo cold! Felt that impression moving to Vegas. Not that I'm looking for a convo, but could have expected it to happen at grocery stores, Best Buys and random spots back in the Midwest.
no problem if i miss some points probably i will know them later, and do you have somethings in your computer! are they connected for some informations but not all
This situation seems no different than the one where the canadian guy went up to the american cop to ask him if he had attended the stampede, the guy was just being friendly and probably wanted to run with you to keep a pace, it helps to run with someone especially someone more athletic because it motivates you to push your limit.
There's a big difference between being rude to someone's face and having a hard time saying "no" to people than talking about it with your friends later. A lot of people do that. Stop trying to act like you're all high and mighty.
You don't understand-I never said it's not acceptable to "factor in localized murders." I'm saying murders are a very small fraction of violent crimes. Considering you're FAR more likely to be victim of a non-lethal violent crime than be murdered, it is absolutely more relevant and sensible to discuss overall violent-crime rates, not just murder rates. Your comment shows a very archaic grasp of simple statistical concepts and is riddled with fallacies. PM me if you want to discuss this further.
not all of america is like that. i live in a small community and we all look out for each other, even if you don't know em. my house caught fire once and people i never met were offering us a place to sleep and supper, but i live in a small town, not a big city
Again I completely agree with your comment, people have a negative bias towards people they do not personally know , and most crimes are committed by someone related to them in some way. Thank you for your clarifications to my vague point that these situations are not to be as bizarre or awkward as most people perceive them to be.
What have I done with my life.. Gotta get out of the house, get some fresh air.. maybe I'm just too introverted.. re-align my perspective, meet new people.. That guy looks like he's got it together! "Hey, mind if I jog with you?" Wow, he said yes! This is it! I'm turning a new leaf! "What's your name?" Sounded like Jack.. Do I ask him to repeat himself? No, that'd be weird. "Look! It's your restaurant, jack!" He didn't correct me.. so far, so good! Wow, he's fast.. I wish I was that confident..
Non-European foreigners act like this all the time. They're much friendlier than we are. It's just a difference in cultures. They always ask to be your friend even if you've only known them for a few minutes.
I agree, but walking on the street isn't completely different from jogging. I was responding to the original commenter making it clear that just being from Britain does not mean that you can automatically speak to people and in the States you can't. It's simply untrue from my experience.
It's just the people who don't actually exercise in public (in tandem with other people) I guess. I go hiking pretty often and there's plenty of people who want to stick together, especially on the harder more advanced trails.
The reason why joggers don't like to pass you, Cenk, is the same reason some people like to drive behind semi's... your vortex practically creates a vacuum for them to run in.
Well, depending on your pronunciation, and his understanding, Jack could sound similar to Cenk (pronounced Jenk). Either way, that's no excuse for their response.
I learned to jog in the middle of the night because random people always seemed to wanna join just because they spot me jogging like they are. I don't understand this.
You were in Los Angeles and someone freaked you out? I haven't been there since the 80's but back then that would have been considered the least of your worries.
To everybody who says the Vietnamese guy was just a jogger looking for company. Don't forget what Cenk said in the beginning, the guy was not wearing jogging shoes or clothes. If he looked like a jogger I'm sure Cenk's reaction would've been different from the beginning.
This is what I thought too. It makes me sad that if someone makes a seemingly friendly gesture that we immediately assume they want to kill, rape or mug us. Can't anyone just be nice anymore?
93% chance of boundary dysfunction. I meet people like this all the time, I work in the inner city. I just smile, hear their story and continue on my way, but some people are extremely strange, they're just socially awkward usually and trying to fit in. Some however are mentally ill, and that's where our fears are derived from, like they're going to snap on us or something...
Being friendly is the way to go! As you walk or jog along down the street, always try to have a smile on your face. You'll be surprised how many perfect strangers will approach you and say, "What's so god- damned funny????"
Poor Verne, he sounds like a socially awkward, well-meaning lonely guy who didn't want to jog alone.
+Linda Liriel Yes it's an interesting social profile to study. Usually progresses to a noxious relationship and pathological behavior, all because of individual perception.
The lonely, social awkward man knows that he has difficulty assimilating and fitting in perfectly to his surrounding, and when he is accepted he tends to see his acceptance as a defining event in his life, this new relationship now becomes representative to his social status, if you were to end this relationship it would be indicative of social digression. It would confirm all doubts of social integrity, it would be his long life, chronic problem brought to life.
Now here is when it turns into pathological behavior. Normally we tend to create defense mechanisms that justify our position and status. People who find it hard to socially assimilate, AID their cardinal problem with a false perception of the society in which he/she doesn't understand in the first place.
The following are interesting cases in which the assailant had the same initial profile, and when faced with disconnection/acceptance, it became indicative to represent who they are, they weren't able to lean on any healthy defense mechanism....
1)Elliot Rodger
Tired of being rejected by society and unable to create intimate relationship with the opposite sex.
Takes it out on all random society especially women,
Kills 7 before taking his own life.
Analyze the video for yourself, titled full video Elliot Rodger on UA-cam
2)Christine Paolilla
She suffered from alopecia (hair-loss) and was shunned from the cruel, juvenile, yet raw society we live in as kids. She was accepted in high school by people who were sympathetic(PEOPLE LIKE YOU), these people (Rachael Koloroutis and Tiffany Rowell) gave her a makeover and befriended the socially awkward, lonely teen.
She was able to finally be accepted, She now was also able to build an intimate relationship with the opposite sex as well. She then had different realities form into her perception. She saw an evil society who hated her. She saw people who love her.
She was able to affiliate schoolmates with the hate she had to society, and her boyfriend with "her acceptance and love" that she received.
Her reaction was with no remorse, fatally shooting four people, including her two friends, in their Clear Lake City, Texas home on July 18, 2003.
You can take your chances and help people, it's great and it also makes you vulnerable to their unhealthy perceptions.
Every time you meet someone it's a gamble. There are lots of socially integrated, confident rapists and kind people with social awkwardness.
Linda Liriel
Your example is effect and cause , mine is cause and effect. One can be prevented.
+Alexander Fleming Sure, by never leaving the house, never making friends...
#FEELTHEVERNE
So how is Vern, its been a few years, does he still jog behind you?
+vmah0111 I bet he just follows Cenk in secret o.O
Made up story. No way Cenk jogs lol
Damn... People who are both socially awkward and socially active... They're the worst.
"I start going at a quicker pace for a significant amount of time , and Ana you know I can do that"
+Justin B lol sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
+Justin B They literally had a foot race, Ana thought she would win because she weighs significantly less. However, Cenk regularly exercises so he had superior stamina.
Then afterwards he goes for a jog..
Looks like Cenk was feeling the Verne!
OMG hahaha
"With me it's lower because look at me...."
WHAT?! Cenk you are SO handsome!! And your personality makes you even cuter.
I have such a crush!!
Aww, lol that's super cute. :3 I think he said what he said because of the societal shaming placed upon obesity; most people, typically, do not prefer overweight partners, so he was being logical by referencing that statistic. Overall, though, I would say he has very much self-confidence.
If you seriously have a crush on him please seek a psychologist
+Adriano Ronaldo Nothing wrong with crushing on a personality. The guy has loads si makes sense to me
+LeroneClarkeOliverYT yeah you're right but he looks like my 50 year old uncle so dunno seems kinda weird to me
+Adriano Ronaldo SO she needs a psychologist even though she has never met your uncle?
Why am I just seeing this LMFAO:{
LOL! :x
and the moral of the story....if a stranger strikes up a conversation run like fuck
Some of us are just lonely and need someone to just have company. It is crazy that we no longer can shake our neighbors hand. It is so sad.💔💔💔💔💔
Am I the only person that had the "I'll never let go, Jack" line from Titanic in my head, when they were talking about the dude staying with him if he faked an injury? Just picturing an overly friendly Vietnamese guy saying that made me laugh.
Mike Felty 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Thumbs up for Vern... Guy is probably just lonely...
LOL someone needs to make an animated version of this story
Awww Cenk, you've made it. You got your own stalker...
This legit made me laugh a lot. Awesome
Damn cenk was really slim
They don't do videos on the weekend, they just upload some day old videos on saturday. I am sure they will talk about it on the show on Monday and upload the clip later that day.
why is Cenk so handsome 😍 😍 😍
The point isn't that there's anything wrong with being friendly. The point is that there are times and places for being friendly, and most people prefer to jog alone. So jogging along side someone you don't know, and it's silent the whole jog....that's just fucking awkward. Be friendly at social situations or places, like a bar. But when someone is going on a jog they prefer to be alone
So it's pronounced Jenk..
+I. HDJRI Jack now.
+Elley Henderson i'm gonna call him jack.
Jinx if you are Joe Manchin.
@@pepega8286 Chenk.
You should change the title of the video to "Cenk Blows-off Friendly Jogger"
Come on guys, he was just a bloke wanting someone to jog with, is America that fucked up that you can't be nice to someone without them thinking they're up to something... I would have expected someone like jenk to just accept the experience as a positive one, but you just make fun of the poor guy in front of the whole world for being friendly... weird bunch TYT, just when you think you get a handle on someone.
LMAO there are so many good lines.
"I started going quicker for a significant period of time which Ana knows I can do"
I can't help can't help, but to think sexually.
"Here is one thing I can do - Run fast" :D :D :D :D .... Translation ... street goes downhill ... Cenk starts rolling :D
This is literally the funniest thing I heard all week
You're creeping me out... 'know what I mean Vern?'
Lol
these kind of stories are what makes me love TYT
he gained so much wait. I'm watching this on 2016
he was really good looking back in the day!!!
My mom started really getting into jogging a while back. This is actually normal behavior for joggers and runners. They'll shadow other joggers/runners if they like that person's pace, because then, they can emulate them. Some of them do prefer to jog alone, but others like to find a partner.
Ahh im from England and love the show and was in LA the other day, i would have love to see you there. keep up the great show
maybe he was tryin to pick u up, lots of guys like the gym or the park because he thinks u will be healthy, no diseases..
I don't have them on; there are subtitles embedded in their video feed.
TYT: covering the stories that matter.
+GotPotatoes24 Gosh, heaven forbid the hosts have fun and tell some personal anecdotes!
That is awesome hahaha, how did i miss this video?
stop the story..cenk jogged?
lol this made me chuckle..thanks i needed this today
I'm pretty sure 80% of their videos aren't reserved exclusively for members..
Maybe Vern was feeling unsafe running alone and was looking for safety in numbers .
Does Bert have a friend named Ernie?
I have noticed that as hectic urban life has increasingly replaced land life that people have absolutely no time for other humans. When i grew up on the land it was routine to talk with people at the bus station, talk about recent happenings, future events, opinions etc. But now people all run around like stressed robots staring at their cell phones, singularly listening to music with ear plugs, even reading the newspaper on the train seems to take too much time away from (post) modern life.
I agree with and support your position, I must not have been clear, I have had conversations with random people I have met who had mental illness, a number of those situations were frightening-stalking, threatening, outbursts etc. I am not concerned by random talkative friendly people, and I stop to humor them and sometimes turn out befriending them.
I think there is a cultural misunderstanding here because Vietnamese and Japanese and I think some Chinese culture like to do things communal so exercising would be one of those things
3:28
"so ist start going in a quicker pace for like a significant period of time, and ana you know i can do that"
nice one ;D
People from non-Midwest states can be sooooo cold! Felt that impression moving to Vegas. Not that I'm looking for a convo, but could have expected it to happen at grocery stores, Best Buys and random spots back in the Midwest.
I swear I SWEAR this is the best Cenk story ever 😂
no problem if i miss some points probably i will know them later, and do you have somethings in your computer! are they connected for some informations but not all
i'm from finland and we have vietnamese or people from thailand which are way more open to strangers than us.
I love how the ad on UA-cam for me said 'Meet Single Runners'.
"Vern. I'm with my family and I don't know you."
I laughed out loud there. =)
"So, I start going at a quicker pace, Ana, you know I can do this"--Cenk. 3:34
Picturing Cenk jogging? I'm picturing the Road Runner power lifting.
That "because I look like this" had me dying. I'm like "finally! The quicker that is established the better"
This situation seems no different than the one where the canadian guy went up to the american cop to ask him if he had attended the stampede, the guy was just being friendly and probably wanted to run with you to keep a pace, it helps to run with someone especially someone more athletic because it motivates you to push your limit.
Nice to meet you, JACK!!
Yes. No one in a city has time to be friendly for no reason, so if you can't size up what's in if for them, it registers as suspicious.
There's a big difference between being rude to someone's face and having a hard time saying "no" to people than talking about it with your friends later. A lot of people do that. Stop trying to act like you're all high and mighty.
This is the most random funny story I heard in a long time
You don't understand-I never said it's not acceptable to "factor in localized murders." I'm saying murders are a very small fraction of violent crimes. Considering you're FAR more likely to be victim of a non-lethal violent crime than be murdered, it is absolutely more relevant and sensible to discuss overall violent-crime rates, not just murder rates.
Your comment shows a very archaic grasp of simple statistical concepts and is riddled with fallacies. PM me if you want to discuss this further.
Really? That's awesome! I used to watch his Earnest shows/movies a lot as a kid. He was a great man.
I'm Canadian... this is pretty normal LOL
Who subtitled this?
not all of america is like that. i live in a small community and we all look out for each other, even if you don't know em. my house caught fire once and people i never met were offering us a place to sleep and supper, but i live in a small town, not a big city
He totally works for Stratfor. They are all up in your stuff Cenk!
Again I completely agree with your comment, people have a negative bias towards people they do not personally know , and most crimes are committed by someone related to them in some way. Thank you for your clarifications to my vague point that these situations are not to be as bizarre or awkward as most people perceive them to be.
I love Anna's "ugh" at the end of the vid, she clearly does not like doing the sex act that was mentioned lol.
i love these cenk stories ! i want more!
What have I done with my life.. Gotta get out of the house, get some fresh air.. maybe I'm just too introverted.. re-align my perspective, meet new people.. That guy looks like he's got it together! "Hey, mind if I jog with you?" Wow, he said yes! This is it! I'm turning a new leaf! "What's your name?" Sounded like Jack.. Do I ask him to repeat himself? No, that'd be weird. "Look! It's your restaurant, jack!" He didn't correct me.. so far, so good! Wow, he's fast.. I wish I was that confident..
Non-European foreigners act like this all the time. They're much friendlier than we are. It's just a difference in cultures. They always ask to be your friend even if you've only known them for a few minutes.
All I can think of when hearing the name Vern is Jim Varney saying "HEY VERN!"
Vern uses Friendly.
Cenk uses Bolt.
Bolt is SUPER EFFECTIVE.
Turns out Vern was just a fan that was too shy about meeting his hero and didn't know what to say.
This was such a SEINFELD moment!
I agree, but walking on the street isn't completely different from jogging. I was responding to the original commenter making it clear that just being from Britain does not mean that you can automatically speak to people and in the States you can't. It's simply untrue from my experience.
I 100% agree with this. Verne was just being friendly.
It's just the people who don't actually exercise in public (in tandem with other people) I guess. I go hiking pretty often and there's plenty of people who want to stick together, especially on the harder more advanced trails.
I met Cenk in person once in Zucotti Park.
Being friendly sure is dangerous.
ROFL just like those Canadians approaching that off duty American cop, it doesn't pay to be friendly to an American stranger xD
The reason why joggers don't like to pass you, Cenk, is the same reason some people like to drive behind semi's... your vortex practically creates a vacuum for them to run in.
omg I remember this video and its already five years old :( . Jesus.
Why did you make this video? Was it warn people off talking to you in public, or to stoke paranoia?
Having spent most of my life in rural Canada, I find this so sad.
"So I start going at a quicker pace for like, a SIGNIFICANT period of time...and Ana, you know I can do that."
Classic.
Well, depending on your pronunciation, and his understanding, Jack could sound similar to Cenk (pronounced Jenk). Either way, that's no excuse for their response.
I doubt this correlated with the west coast. Which is pretty much identical to anywhere else in the US or Canada in terms of how people act.
I guess you missed the episode where Ana and Cenk had a running competition?
This was so funny, man I love Ben and Cenk, you know they've been friends forever by their chemistry
I think it's only strange because we're so paranoid.. In reality, the worse that will likely happen is a disagreement on politics (if it comes up).
"...and Ana you know I can do this" CLASSIC!!!
I love fun TYT like this
I learned to jog in the middle of the night because random people always seemed to wanna join just because they spot me jogging like they are. I don't understand this.
nope, they had a running match like 3-4 years ago
You were in Los Angeles and someone freaked you out?
I haven't been there since the 80's but back then that would have been considered the least of your worries.
To everybody who says the Vietnamese guy was just a jogger looking for company. Don't forget what Cenk said in the beginning, the guy was not wearing jogging shoes or clothes. If he looked like a jogger I'm sure Cenk's reaction would've been different from the beginning.
The Young Turks should do a show once a month where they muse upon their past.
This is what I thought too. It makes me sad that if someone makes a seemingly friendly gesture that we immediately assume they want to kill, rape or mug us. Can't anyone just be nice anymore?
I'm feeling glad about the fact that some of us humans are still on earth.
you want to help, take this to the court
93% chance of boundary dysfunction. I meet people like this all the time, I work in the inner city. I just smile, hear their story and continue on my way, but some people are extremely strange, they're just socially awkward usually and trying to fit in. Some however are mentally ill, and that's where our fears are derived from, like they're going to snap on us or something...
I hate how we are taught and told strangers are bad people or creeps or something.
Being friendly is the way to go! As you walk or jog along down the street, always try to have a smile on your face. You'll be surprised how many perfect strangers will approach you and say, "What's so god- damned funny????"