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Loved every minute of it, and thank you for your insights. I played countless hours of waste not after you initialy showcased it after geyer reach sanitarium came out! Didnt even know this card existest before, Im very grateful
I noticed you asked Noah to not stack their graveyard and exile piles together. I've never liked when people tuck their exiled cards sideways under their graveyard (I wonder where they learned that from?). It's too easy to accidently bump the piles and mix things up. Also, I noticed that Noah should have taken 2 from the connive trigger before Reckless Rage resolved and killed your Sheoldred, unless I missed something. He took 2 on his draw before, then 2 more from Sanitarium, so before the zombies hit he should have been at 14. Not that it mattered for that game, but I saw that either you both missed it, or the overlay people did.
I don't think that exile 90 degrees turned under the graveyard is risky. I have solely done that playing pretty consistently for 7 years and not once have the two gotten mixed up
@@maxfailmezger5219 I wouldn't necessarily say it's risky (though decks that benefit from graveyard knowledge such that you keep the yard staggered rather than stacked does increase the risk) but it also opens up an "oops, I mixed them up" line for cheaters. In a casual game I tend to do the sideways under exile UNLESS I'm playing a deck that I need to keep my graveyard splayed so I don't have to pick it up to look through it. In a non-casual game I always have a separate exile pile just to avoid any possible issues.
@@maxfailmezger5219 i don't think it allows for mixups so much as it allows angle shooting a LOT easier. you separate for clarity for the opp, not for yourself.
Yeah, they should add a provision of requiring English cards to go along with any cards that are in a foreign language. You shouldn't have to ask your opponent every time what a card is. Eats away at the clock
Having played this in explorer, swamp is totally fine. Urborg is nice for sure, but it’s here because it has literally 0 downside for the upside of field/geir reach tapping for black. Plays just fine as a swamp
@@cdauber62It does have a downside. Your opponent can tap mana confluence without taking damage, it can mana fix them as well. I remember during a pro tour a while back, Javier Dominguez made the decision to not play an urborg in Rakdos for this reason. So you can't say there's no downside
@@elliotsherrow9846is it technically optimal? Sure and I’m sure there has been a non 0 amount of games where that has come up but I think it’s a pretty negligible difference, the deck isn’t going to fall apart now because an urborg or not.
Hazoret can't attack unless you have 1 or fewer cards in hand. He went to attack with 2, sequencing error. Jim referring to a pro tour top 8 where a player had the win but sequenced improperly and went to attacks with 2 cards in hand and hazoret was stuck
@@madskillswills oh, makes sense - thanks! for some reason i thought jim caught him on some sort of rules technicality about declaring attackers that i didn’t know about
I think playing alternate arts is fine. But he’s also playing against some that are in Japanese. Not recognizing the art, and also not being able to even read the card? I would be frustrated too.
I'm the same, I just hate all variants now with the exception of Eldraine showcase cards lol. Everything else is unsightly. I'm a little surprised they still allow people to compete in tournaments with weird foils, after all the controversies and DQs we have seen in the past. I just assumed you had to enter with a fully nonfoil deck now but apparently not.
If the foils are warped they can be required to replace them or receive a venue proxy. If the foils aren't warped then there's no deck marking and they're official gamepieces and it would be shitty if non-marked official gamepieces weren't allowed to be played with.
@@krimhorn Old foils were consistent quality though, new ones aren't. That's my biggest gripe. Today's foils are sometimes super curly, sometimes flat, but the thickness and weight also wildly varies. For example double faced cards in foil are thicker and heavier than regular foil because both sides are foiled. They also tend to curl vertically instead of horizontally. Some special treatments like SL, masterpieces and others are also way thicker and heavier so it's extremely easy to know where the card is while shuffling. If you put one masterpiece card in a foil deck I would be able to find it with a blindfold on every time. You just feel it on the touch while shuffling.
I'm curious as to why you seem to dislike alt arts so much. I can't say I'm a huge fan of all of them either, but I LOVE some of them. Is it for clarity's sake? Nostalgia? Cheers Jim!
Original arts are just more recognizable and usually cleaner looking. Most players that have been around a long time are like that and I can't say I disagree with them. It didn't used to be a huge deal for me, but with the secret lairs and reprint sets with sometimes 3 different versions of each card happening all the time it has become nearly impossible to recognize a lot of common cards by their art. I also think original old frames (not the weird reproductions of it they've done for a few sets recently) just give a much grittier dark fantasy aesthetic and I prefer it.
@@JimDavisMTG I wonder if it's against the rules to have a tablet with some shitty MSPaint collage of a picture of the alt arts, a bad hand-drawn equals sign, and a (poorly cropped) picture of the normal card
@edkolbe1850 yeah honestly it's pretty stupid that this is allowed. In EDH? Sure rock your blinged out deck in japanese if you like the esthetic. In a professional setting? No. Jim having to double check for God's Willing was ridiculous
It's so everyone involved, commentary, chat, and later viewers, can remain respectful of the competators. Anuraag and his team put in a lot of work to make sure this happened for this weekend, and it was very appreciated as there was a very diverse group of players in the featured matches. I hope PT coverage follows suit.
It's not relevant, it's just a way to inform others would be my guess. I'm not really a fan of it myself personally, but I do try to remain respectful to those in that situation who have fought for at least that much. It doesn't affect the game, so it makes no difference. That's how I view it anyways.
@@JimDavisMTG no it doesn't impact my life directly, it's just pointless. Like you didn't answer the question: what does it have to do with magic? By the way I'm a big fan Jim I don't want to offend anyone
@@MTG_Scribe what do you mean remain respectful? If someone looks like a man so I say him or something, is that disrespectful? It's not my fault some people choose to deny reality is it?
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I spent a literal 5 minutes wondering where the green was in that boros aggro decklist before seeing the one copy of jegantha
It took Arena until earlier this year to finally fix the deck color detector so it doesn't have that same issue with hybrid mana symbols.
Loved every minute of it, and thank you for your insights. I played countless hours of waste not after you initialy showcased it after geyer reach sanitarium came out! Didnt even know this card existest before, Im very grateful
I noticed you asked Noah to not stack their graveyard and exile piles together. I've never liked when people tuck their exiled cards sideways under their graveyard (I wonder where they learned that from?). It's too easy to accidently bump the piles and mix things up.
Also, I noticed that Noah should have taken 2 from the connive trigger before Reckless Rage resolved and killed your Sheoldred, unless I missed something. He took 2 on his draw before, then 2 more from Sanitarium, so before the zombies hit he should have been at 14.
Not that it mattered for that game, but I saw that either you both missed it, or the overlay people did.
I have tucked exiled cards sideways to deal with space constraints. If I have the room, I put them in distinctly different piles.
I don't think that exile 90 degrees turned under the graveyard is risky. I have solely done that playing pretty consistently for 7 years and not once have the two gotten mixed up
@@maxfailmezger5219 I've been playing for 7 as well, and I don't remember mixing mine up ever, either.
@@maxfailmezger5219 I wouldn't necessarily say it's risky (though decks that benefit from graveyard knowledge such that you keep the yard staggered rather than stacked does increase the risk) but it also opens up an "oops, I mixed them up" line for cheaters. In a casual game I tend to do the sideways under exile UNLESS I'm playing a deck that I need to keep my graveyard splayed so I don't have to pick it up to look through it. In a non-casual game I always have a separate exile pile just to avoid any possible issues.
@@maxfailmezger5219 i don't think it allows for mixups so much as it allows angle shooting a LOT easier. you separate for clarity for the opp, not for yourself.
Not taking creature with duress. Rookie mistake 😂😂
Came here to say something along these lines
Yeah, they should add a provision of requiring English cards to go along with any cards that are in a foreign language. You shouldn't have to ask your opponent every time what a card is. Eats away at the clock
I love this paper coverage
Best take of all time about style points.
23:16 trade Shelly, edict the Hazoret not worth it?
edit: it gets discussed a minute later
Sparkles.
Love the match review 👍🏻
In explorer we don't have urborg, can i replace it with a swamp or is too much important for this manabase?
Having played this in explorer, swamp is totally fine. Urborg is nice for sure, but it’s here because it has literally 0 downside for the upside of field/geir reach tapping for black. Plays just fine as a swamp
@@cdauber62It does have a downside. Your opponent can tap mana confluence without taking damage, it can mana fix them as well. I remember during a pro tour a while back, Javier Dominguez made the decision to not play an urborg in Rakdos for this reason. So you can't say there's no downside
@@elliotsherrow9846is it technically optimal? Sure and I’m sure there has been a non 0 amount of games where that has come up but I think it’s a pretty negligible difference, the deck isn’t going to fall apart now because an urborg or not.
Love these
Is dreamhack doing more of the in person regionals? I won't lie, I'm itching to play paper magic in a format that isn't locals or commander lol.
look up your local RCQ (regional championship qualifier) season!
Here for Jim having NO TIME for alt art. Clarity matters!
Can someone explain the technicality that prevented Noah from being able to attack with Hazoret during that one turn on game 2?
Hazoret can't attack unless you have 1 or fewer cards in hand. He went to attack with 2, sequencing error. Jim referring to a pro tour top 8 where a player had the win but sequenced improperly and went to attacks with 2 cards in hand and hazoret was stuck
@@madskillswills oh, makes sense - thanks! for some reason i thought jim caught him on some sort of rules technicality about declaring attackers that i didn’t know about
Poor Jim the Boomer was not enjoying those alt art cards haha
I think playing alternate arts is fine. But he’s also playing against some that are in Japanese.
Not recognizing the art, and also not being able to even read the card? I would be frustrated too.
Hope you didn’t try to take a creature with that duress ever . It says on the card non creature non land lol
I'm the same, I just hate all variants now with the exception of Eldraine showcase cards lol. Everything else is unsightly.
I'm a little surprised they still allow people to compete in tournaments with weird foils, after all the controversies and DQs we have seen in the past. I just assumed you had to enter with a fully nonfoil deck now but apparently not.
If the foils are warped they can be required to replace them or receive a venue proxy. If the foils aren't warped then there's no deck marking and they're official gamepieces and it would be shitty if non-marked official gamepieces weren't allowed to be played with.
@@krimhorn Old foils were consistent quality though, new ones aren't. That's my biggest gripe. Today's foils are sometimes super curly, sometimes flat, but the thickness and weight also wildly varies. For example double faced cards in foil are thicker and heavier than regular foil because both sides are foiled. They also tend to curl vertically instead of horizontally. Some special treatments like SL, masterpieces and others are also way thicker and heavier so it's extremely easy to know where the card is while shuffling.
If you put one masterpiece card in a foil deck I would be able to find it with a blindfold on every time. You just feel it on the touch while shuffling.
Well now I know the answer to "who even wants these ugly cards?". Noah does.
I'm curious as to why you seem to dislike alt arts so much. I can't say I'm a huge fan of all of them either, but I LOVE some of them. Is it for clarity's sake? Nostalgia? Cheers Jim!
Original arts are just more recognizable and usually cleaner looking. Most players that have been around a long time are like that and I can't say I disagree with them.
It didn't used to be a huge deal for me, but with the secret lairs and reprint sets with sometimes 3 different versions of each card happening all the time it has become nearly impossible to recognize a lot of common cards by their art.
I also think original old frames (not the weird reproductions of it they've done for a few sets recently) just give a much grittier dark fantasy aesthetic and I prefer it.
It's not just the alt art, it's the alt art also being in a full art frame in a foreign language that he doesnt speak.
Both clarity and aesthetics. Like, I literally have no idea what my opponents cards do just by looking at them.
@@JimDavisMTG I wonder if it's against the rules to have a tablet with some shitty MSPaint collage of a picture of the alt arts, a bad hand-drawn equals sign, and a (poorly cropped) picture of the normal card
@edkolbe1850 yeah honestly it's pretty stupid that this is allowed. In EDH? Sure rock your blinged out deck in japanese if you like the esthetic. In a professional setting? No. Jim having to double check for God's Willing was ridiculous
Started watching the video but after the fourteenth time of you complaining about how cards look I gotta stop watching lol.
You were the reason I turned off the tv
Why does it say pronouns? Like how is that relevant to a game of magic the gathering?
It's so everyone involved, commentary, chat, and later viewers, can remain respectful of the competators. Anuraag and his team put in a lot of work to make sure this happened for this weekend, and it was very appreciated as there was a very diverse group of players in the featured matches. I hope PT coverage follows suit.
It's not relevant, it's just a way to inform others would be my guess. I'm not really a fan of it myself personally, but I do try to remain respectful to those in that situation who have fought for at least that much. It doesn't affect the game, so it makes no difference. That's how I view it anyways.
Why do you care? Does it negatively impact your life in any way at all? Just move on and find something positive to focus on.
@@JimDavisMTG no it doesn't impact my life directly, it's just pointless. Like you didn't answer the question: what does it have to do with magic?
By the way I'm a big fan Jim I don't want to offend anyone
@@MTG_Scribe what do you mean remain respectful? If someone looks like a man so I say him or something, is that disrespectful? It's not my fault some people choose to deny reality is it?